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Surnames: CHILCOAT, ROBINSON
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John CHILCOTT (CHILCOAT, etc.) who was born in 1706 in Anne Arundel Co., MD, m. Margaret ___ presumably by 12/8/1739 when their son Robinson was born. Margaret's maiden name might have been ROBINSON, but that is only a possibility. Another possibility is that her father's first name was Robinson. For instance, the first-born son of William and Mary COLE was named Giles COLE, so some assumed that Mary's maiden name was GILES. One person went so far as to claim that William's will named his wife as Mary GILES, which was not the case. Evidence I found showed that Mary was the daughter of Giles STEPHENS. Thus, Mary's maiden name was STEPHENS rather than GILES, even though she named a son Giles STEPHENS.
Some Chilcoat descendants are showing Margaret's maiden name as ENSOR, but without offering any evidence. I have been researching ENSORs for 27 years, and have never found any indication of any Margaret ENSOR marrying any CHILCOAT. Meanwhile, I am continuing to collect information on the ROBINSON family in order to ascertain if there were any connections to the CHILCOAT family. So far, I have not found any ROBINSON who might be a candidate for Margaret CHILCOAT's father.
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Mildred
I have a letter from you dated May 21, 1996.
In your first paragraph you missed the generation of Elijah and Mary Jane Pearce Chilcote/Chilcoat who were the parents of your grandfather. Chilcote/Chilcoat genealogy is very confusing because of using the names over and over again.
If you get anything out of the Hall of Records, I hope that they have a marriage record of John and Margaret Chilcott. That way the researchers who are using her maiden name can use it without changing there records. Wouldn't it be something that maybe her maiden name was Smith or Jones. Just kidding.
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Larry,
The first John I referred to (born March 30,1743) was my gggrandfather and the first of his three wives was Delilah Cole who was my ancestor and I know this is true from family records and my grandmother's and mother's testimony. This John was born in Baltimore County, MD and was buried on his son's farm in Ashland County, Ohio. His son, Elijah (born 1768) was my ggrandfather and was married to Elizabeth Ensor. His son, Lewis Edward, was my grandfather.
The second John I referred to (born April 10,1706) was born in St. James Parish, Anne Arundel County, MD. He was baptized on June 30, 1706 in St. James Parish, Anne Arundel County, MD. John and Margaret were married about 1738 and had the following children: James, John, Joshua, Robinson and Humphrey. I do not have any verifiable record that Margaret's last name was Robinson but all of the information I have been able to gather seems to bear this out. I plan to write to the Maryland Hall of Records in Annapolis, MD to obtain some definite dates of marriage.
Mildred
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Finally a live person who has correct information. He came here about 1767. His first marriage was to a Ruth Loveall daugther of Zebulon and Mary Loveall, and then married Susanah Loveall daugther of William and Mary Loveall.
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Surnames: CHILCOTT
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YOU PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW THIS BUT ON A FAMILY TREE I HAVE RE:CHILCOTT'S----RICHARD CHILCOTT WAS BORN FEB 24, 1746 IN BRIDGEWATER, COUNTY OF SOMERSETSHIRE, ENGLAND. I DON'T HAVE INFORMATION ON WHEN HE CAME OVER BUT SHOWS HIS FIRST MARRIAGE TO BE MAY 29, 1774, THREE MILES FROM WESTMINISTERTOWN, COUNTY OF FREDERICK, MARYLAND.
Hello, all:
Larry Hill has put his finger on some persistent genealogy problems that
I've been concerned about as well. I've only been at this about a year, so
I'm no expert at all. If I'm wrong on any of the following, please educate
me!! Here are some comments and thoughts.
1. I began my own efforts with a list of Chilcote ancestors going back to
a Henry Chilcote, born ca. 1540 in Monksilver, Somerset, England. The list
came from a cousin, and appears quite similar to others I've seen on the
Internet. I've expanded the list to add further detail to my own Chilcote
"branch" (largely clustered in Huntingdon County, Pennsylvania).
However, I have almost no documents to verify the genealogical
information on that list, especially from the English side, or with regard
to the first 1 or 2 Maryland/Virginia Chilcotes (ca. middle to late 1600s).
I've been trying to locate some of these documents, but it's a very
time-consuming (and potentially expensive) activity, as all of you know.
2. Does anyone have or know of a genealogy list of Chilcotes (-cott,
coat, etc.) for whom there is documented information?? If such a list
existed, and were posted on a website on the Internet, for example, it would
save us all a great deal of time and trouble. We could then focus on where
the document "gaps" exist, and we could concentrate on them. Ultimately, we
could figure out in some cases there isn't any documentary evidence and work
on something else more productive! I would be delighted if any such list
already exists!!!
3. Right now, I can't tell whether we're all copying each other's lists,
or whether some of these lists do represent largely documented activities!
Maybe this just shows my own ignorance of what's out there; please advise if
so!!! The same goes for such things as coats of arms, etc. I wonder if
anyone has taken the trouble (or the money) to run these past the College of
Arms in the UK. (I've found 2 different versions of Chilcote arms)
Anybody have thoughts on the foregoing? Thanks for taking time to plough
through this.
Cheers! Arden Chilcote, Indianapolis
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Subject: Re: John Chilcoat
Date: 22 Nov 2002 19:07:05 -0700
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I have been in this genealogy mode for 30 years and have never found some of
the information that you have posted. Where did you find the initial "B" and
"Robinson"? Finding it on the internet doesn't count unless it comes from a
reliable document.
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I have been in this genealogy mode for 30 years and have never found some of the information that you have posted. Where did you find the initial "B" and "Robinson"? Finding it on the internet doesn't count unless it comes from a reliable document.
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Here is the information I have on my ancestor, John B. Chilcoat/Chilcott (born 10 April, 1706). Married Margaret Robinson about 1738. Their children were: Robinson (born 1739), James (born1741), John (my ancestor- born 1743), Joshua (born about 1745) and Humphrey (born about 1749).
Mildred
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Surnames: CHILCOTT, HOLCOMB, LADD, HATHAWAY, VALLEY
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Sooo. When did Richard CHILCOTT emigrate to this country? From where? What more can I find out about him?
My gg grandmother spelled her name CHILCOTT, and we have been at a standstill with her research. Of course I have piles of gen I have yet to corelate...ongoing!! And had hoped to unearth the info I needed when I had all those ancestors pasted up on the wall where I can see the relationships better. My own way of doing this gen thing. Of course verification then becomes the big job. You are right there. I've left messages before. Don't want to take up everyone's time with duplication too much. GG grandmother Rose.
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I'm really not cursing the darkness. I have questions that need to be answered also. But where do I go. I certainly don't take the information that I'm finding on the internet as gospel.
The 1679 land record connect with just about every family, but not all. These families seem to move together. Leaving behind some members. There was the true immigrant Richard Chilcott. His records are there. When he came here he moved to the very same area that some of the family was living. My thoughts are that they were his relatives or he just move someplace and by chance it was next door to the other families that were already here. Another family moved into New England. That is all documented.
There had to be more than one or two immigrants. There are families that I have started, but can't connect them together. They surely knew each other. They were all living around Baltimore before they moved to Huntingdon Co., Pa.
The spelling of the name (CHILCOTE, CHILCOAT, CHILCOATE, CHILCOT, CHILCOTT, ETC) is another problem. I have brothers who spelled there name different. Why? I don't have a clue. That has happen in the last 50 years. I have documents where the name was spelled many various ways. Why? I assuming that they didn't know the spelling of there name. The person writing the instrument made the spelling of today families.
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Surnames: Chilcoat, Chilcoate, Chilcot, Chilcote, Chilcott
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Perhaps some day, Larry, you'll quit cursing the darkness and light your *own* candle to illuminate the true path for those of us struggling in the darkness.
Does your 1679 land record connect to the brothers of Baltimore from whom most Chilcoat/Chilcote and other variation descendants seem to think they descend?
Isn't it possible there was more than one incursion of immigrants with that general name, say, one sometime prior to that land record, another in the early 1700s and yet another when supposedly unrelated Richard Chilcott came over in the third quarter of the 18th century?
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As far as I know there isn't any reliable histories on the CHILCOTE/CHILCOAT families. The history that you are referring to is probably the Descendant of Heathcote Chilcote of Huntingdon Co., Pa. There are many mistakes and that shouldn't have been printed. Correction were sent out, but probably everybody wasn't notified.
The information that is appearing on the internet is amazing. Nobody is taking credit for the garbage that they are putting out. I have been doing this CHILCOTE/CHILCOAT thing for over 30 years, and I can say that as far as I know my information is correct. Sometimes I can't put my finger on a peculiar document, but I have it.
Just to give an example of what I'm taking about, have you ever seen Margaret Robinson in any type of document that says that she was married to a John Chilcot. John's wife may have been Robinson, but I don't put that information out until it is proven with some type of record.
How can genealogist use this information coming from England on direct descendants of our families here. The first land record here is 1679. Sure the family came from England, no doubt about that. But where is the connection? Show me the connection.
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Larry,
The response you sent to Ginger was also sent to me. Thanks for the info. I made a huge mistake and merged some files without checking accuracy and now my genealogy is unreliable. Do you know if there is a published account of the Chilcoat family line? My uncle was given a book by a genealogist who researched the Chilcoat line and I'd love to know if copies of that are available. Thanks, Laurie
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Ginger,
I'm sorry. My relatives are all based in the Maryland area, particularly in Baltimore and Harford Counties. I know there are lines of Chilcouats who headed to Ohio. I will check info I have on Chilcoats not in my direct line, and if I find anything I'll contact you.
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Larry this is a cousin to my dad(lowell) he was also married couple times but not sure who,his dad was my dad uncle,Otis Barnet Chilcoat was my grandpa and he was married to Minnie Chilcoat and then he married a women name Eidth Russel,from st.Marys ohio they lived in Pear street stmarys ohio,both desease.Dad had Homer,Rafe,Charles,Erenst,all dease their two girls left their name is Betty,Blanch.one in wapakoneta ohio one in celina ohio . please send me any reply to Ngingersweet@aol.com..all Otis B Chilcoat children are desease but the two girls. Do u have anymore information on my grandpa family? thank u ginger
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This Otis Chilcoat is probably a son of Otis Leroy and Edith Garree Chilcoat. Otis Leroy Chilcoat (1909-1985) lived in the St. Marys, Oh area. I only have one son listed for him, but I know that there were others. The son I have listed is William E. (1935-1982) and married Edna Hall.
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My adopted dad was name john his real name was lowell,he has two children that I do not know their name he was married to barb owig sense 1962 ,his father name was otis chilcoat,he had 5 children from barb, and two children he adopted so that made 7 of us,he was fron st.Marys ohio,if u anyone looking for him please e-mail me plus I love to find his other children, one a girl and a boy. John(lowell) is deseased he died in 1998.
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Surnames: CHILCOTT, VALLEY, HOLCOMB, LADD
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Hello;
I was intrigued by your story of the brothers. Do you have any records of a Rose or Rosa CHILCOTT? (spelling could vary, of course) born about 1842, in (?) NY. She married Augustus VALLEY.
Still hunting.
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Annabell Chilcoat, born 3-25-1883 Leighton, Al. Died 10-8-1971. Married a Ed Capps. Possibly a second marriage to a McLelland??????????????, or maybe a first???????????