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I have revised the WebPage. Please Check it out at www.rootsweb.com/~cheyne
.
It has the latest changes, including Cheyne Branch CC, that was written
about in the last few weeks.
Also included are a few photos of Places of Interest to Cheyne Family
Members.
I would be pleased to receive your thoughts and suggestions.
Yours aye,
Jim Cheyne
Cheyne(a)phxinternet.net
Hi Jim, All:
My message was that Jane Cheyne, the daughter of William Cheyne & Mary
Forsyth did not marry Alexander Irvine and emmigrate to Canada abt 1826. As
the following MI shows, she died in Scotland abt 1828:
Auchterless MIs Stone 204
Here lies the remains of WILLIAM CHYNE [sic] late crofter in Seggat d 1 Sept
1821 aged 56,
his wife MARY FORSYTH d 26 Dec 1849 aged 87. Their daus
MARGARET d 1 Apr 1816 aged 18,
>>> JANE d 1 Nov 1828 aged 28.
MARGARET FORSYTH sister to the above d 21 Sept 1854 aged 100 years 3 mths.
MARY dau of the above WILLIAM CHEYNE & MARY FORSYTH d North Towie Turner 15
May
1897 aged 94.
Bottom: Erected by their (daughter) Mary 1863.
Personally, that sets me back a little. All of my Irvine ( and Cheyne) data
was given to me several years ago, and I am about to rethink it.
Bye for now
Roy
Hello listers---
I resently had a rather substantial computer glitch, requiring me to have to
reinstall Windows, which also means reinstall all programs, printers, etc.,
etc.
As a consequence, all saved emails, have been lost. I had saved many of the
items everyone had sent me that was to be entered into the database and/or
WebPage. Also many email address' were saved there too.
I know -- I know -- I should have backedup along the line.
If you still have copies of emails that you sent me new data on, or waiting
for responces from me please resend.
I will do better in the future.
I will do better in the future.
I will do better in the future.
I will do better in the future.
I will do better in the future.
I will do better in the future.
Yours aye, Jim Cheyne cheyne(a)phxinternet.net
Hi cousins--
Some time ago I received information from a very helpful individual via
email, concerning my Cheney line. I have since lost the copy of our
correspondence, and I can't remember her name. She was researching Ezekiel
Thomas and Temperance Cheney, and asked me to keep an eye out for them.
ANYWAY, I came across their marriage record the other day, and thought I
would post it to the list, just in case she is a subscriber and this is
information she doesn't have yet.
Ezekiel Thomas m. Temperance Cheney, d/o Thomas, 9 Jul 1793,
Harrison Co VA/WV
Other Cheneys listed on the Harrison Co VA USGenWeb page:
Milla Cheney m. Nathan Tucker, 15 Aug 1785
Hester Cheney m. William Martin, 29 Jul 1787
No Cheney grooms are listed
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Hi Jim & All:
It was good to hear from you.
Unfortunately, it appears that there has been a mistake in my Cheyne
lineage. Up until now I have believed that Jane Cheyne, who married
Alexander Irvine and came to the Matapedia area of Quebec around 1826, was
the daughter of William Cheyne and Mary Forsyth. As the following M.I. from
Auchterless shows, that Jane Cheyne died IN SCOTLAND in 1828.
Auchterless MIs Stone 204
Here lies the remains of WILLIAM CHYNE late crofter in Seggat d 1 Sept 1821
aged 56,
his wife MARY FORSYTH d 26 Dec 1849 aged 87.
Their daus MARGARET d 1 Apr 1816 aged 18,
JANE d 1 Nov 1828 aged 28.
MARGARET FORSYTH sister to the above d 21 Sept 1854 aged 100 years 3 mths.
MARY dau of the above WILLIAM CHEYNE & MARY FORSYTH d North Towie Turner 15
May
1897 aged 94. Bottom: Erected by their (daughter) Mary 1863.
At the moment I think the Irvine side of my genealogy is okay.
Alexander's christening year (1789) is four years earlier than the 1861
census would lead me to expect (1793), but makes sense when you study the
names of his children etc - and at least I have not found his MI! ( I have
his father's and siblings)
All this leaves me wondering where MY Jane Cheyne was. According to the
1861 census, Jane was 60, and thus born abt 1801.Going by the names of her
children, I would expect her parents to be Donald (or another Alexander) and
Mary, Sarah or Isabella. AS ALexander Irvine came from New Deer, I expect
that Jane Cheyne was near there.
Bye for now
Roy
Roy raises some interesting points in his email. I will try to answer them,
but I am certainly not an expert in some of these fields.
1) Gurgedyke, Methlick was probably part of Ardo or Haddo. In 1696 the
Laird of Ardo, was John Gordon, probably a cadet family of Gight. John
Gordon of Ardo and John Gordon of Gight both witnessed the baptism of John
Cheyne, brother of the James below. Haddo was also a Gordon. In 1644 the
Cheynes and the Gordon were staunch Catholics and fought against the
establishment of both Episcopal and Presbyterian state religions.
2) I not longer believe that William Cheyne once of Cairnbanno, was the
father of Alexander. I am now leaning more toward a William Cheyne of
Keithen (in Monquhitter). Back to Wm. of Cairnbanno. In 1654 (I think) he
is mentioned, with his wife, in Sasines as co-heritors of Cairnbanno. There
are several entries in the Monquhitter OPR as Mr. William Cheyne of
Cairnbanno. Mr. was used mainly for the educated an of was used if the
person was a land owner. About 1675-80, he was styled lately of Cairnbanno,
so he must have sold the land to others. He was married to a Jean Gordon.
3) At one time Cairnbanno was part of Gight. It was separated out for a
second son. Some time later it was not longer Gordon property.
Yours aye,
Jim Cheyne
cheyne(a)phxinternet.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Leverett Hales [mailto:rhales@direct.ca]
Sent: 29 August, 1999 16:52 PM
To: CHEYNE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: Cheyne Questions
Hi Wendy & All:
I am glad you emailed, because I have lost your email address, the Cheyne
line adress & Jim's. I wanted to raise some questions.
(1) From my Perthshire lines, I have just learned to "follow the Laird" in
regard to a tenants involvements in event like the risings of 1715 and 1745.
SO:
Does anyone know who was the was the Laird of Gurgedyke, Methlick, in
Aberdeenshire when James Cheyne was baptised ( to John Cheyne & Jean
Shepherd) in 1715? Also, do you know which side this Laird supported?
(2) Is in regard to the William Cheyne, who is probably father to our
Alexander Cheyne (abt 1650 - aft 1717). As I understand it, we are looking
for a possible/probable link between Alexander and the stem family of
Cheynes - whose pedigree goes back to the Norman era. Up until a few days
ago, I had thought that William Cheyne was "of Cairnbanno" - i.e. one of the
landed gentry from that place. Then someone gave me the 1696 pool tax entry
which lists under the Miltoun of Cairnbanno
- Mr William Cheyne, who property is valued at 3 pounds, 6 s - 8.
- the lands of Cairnbanno - valued at 103 pounds, 6s-8 belonged to the
deceast Androw Dalgardne.
>From this I get the impression that William Cheyne is actually "small
potatoes". I'm inclined to believe that he is related to, and possibly
father of, our Alexander BUT does this get us any closer to the landed
connection we expected?
(3) Did the Gordons of Gight still hold Cairnbano at the time we are
speaking of? As this family seems to be so influential to our Cheyne
ancestors, at least in the late 17th century, I would love to get an outline
history of their involvement in - for example - the Jacobin struggles of
1644, 1689, 1715 & 1745.
Bye
Roy
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