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Im still hunting for information on the various generations of Green
Berry Chaney. Appears one or more were lawyers & died young
Psbl lineage:
John Cheyney
Richard Chayney Sr. by wife Charity had son Richard Cheyney Jr - below
same Richard Chayney Sr. by wife Eleanor had son Thomas Cheyney - below
Richard Cheyney Jr & Mary were parents of Benjamin Cheyney
half brother thomas Chaney & wife Sarah Westhall were parents of Ruth
Chaney
Benjamin Cheyney b 1687 MD m June 1719 Ruth Chaney - his cousin & had
Green Berry Chaney I b August 1740 MD d 1779 Wilkes Co, Ga - ?wife
Green Berry Chaney II b 1771 VA d 1831 Washington Co Ala m. Elizabeth
Middlebrooks
Green Berry Chaney III b 1794 Wilkes Co, Ga d 1853 Choctaw, Alabama
m. May 17, 1821 Marengo Co, Ala Caroline Hainsworth
Dianne Conaway Blankenstein
Since many of the Cheyne cousins don't have access to the Cheyne study ("Le
Fief De Quesneto-A study of the origins and medieval history of the families
now known as CHESNEY, CHEYNEY, CHENEY & CHEYNE)
by R.W.L. Chesney, I will proved a selected portion of the text. In respect
for any possible copyright issues, this will be brief and I will furnish
just the two pages that relate to the Scottish branch. While this may not be
helpful in giving an overall picture of the origin and lineage of the
family, this study, taken as a whole, is important in understanding the
ancient origins of the family which carry back to just before the Conquest.
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The Scottish Branch
"There can be little doubt that the Cheynes in Scotland originated from one
of the Norman families who came over to England at the time of the
Conquest,.." (A.Y. Cheyne-56 )
In the "Zetland Family Histories"57 , there is the following:- "Rabel del
Chene witnesses charters by William de Vipont to the monks of Coldingham in
North Durham between the years 1147 and 1160." "William de Chesne witnesses
charters granted between 1198 and 1214 to the monks of Holyrood by William
de Vipont, son and heir to William de Vipont and Emma de St. Hilary."
Cheyne56 says that "Evidently the powerful family of de Vipont (Veterepont)
had in its train some of the name of Cheyne, and in the fact of Yvo de
Veterepont witnessing charters of William the Lion at Aberdeen, between 1187
- 1203, we seem to have found the clue to the appearance of the Cheynes in
that part of Scotland, whilst the occurence of this 'William de Chesne'
points to there being an early offshoot from 'de Caisneto' which had found
its way to Durham and thence northwards. It may be that we have thus hit
upon a trace of the descendents of Osbern de Quesnai of the Dives Roll, or
of William de Caisneto, second son of Ralf de Caisneto identified by the
Dutchess of Cleveland6 with Raoul de Quesnai.
Regarding the association between the families of de Veterepont and de
Caisneto the following information, although relating to the thirteenth
century, may be of some significance. Roger de Clifford of the Welsh
Marches, fighting for the King at Evesham, was rewarded with estates in
Westmoreland which had belonged to the family of de Veterepont. He obtained
the hand of Isabella de Vipont for his son Roger, 1269-70, who died in 1282
before his father. On page 20 above, it is related that an Alexander de
Chedney, or Cheyney, was seneschal to Walter de Clifford, 1235-6. This
Walter was the brother of Roger senior, and their mother was Agnes de
Condet, great granddaughter of Adelidis de Caisneto, Lady of Caenby and
Glentham (page 3). A further item of importance is that the coat of arms of
Roger de Clifford was "chequy or and azure, a fesse gules" and that that of
de Cheyney "chequy or and azure, a fesse gules, fretty argent."
A William le Chen occurs in the account of a 'Prest made to knights at
Struthe' in 1210; and he is found in 1230 in a list of those granted
protection while in the service of Henry III. (Cal. Docs. Scotland, Vol. I)
Cheyne56 relates that the author of the Spaulding Club View of the Diocese
of Aberdeen states that the founder of the Cheynes on Inverugie (in the
parish of St. Fergus, Aberdeenshire) was 'Bernardus Canis, filius Guliemi
Canis', described as such in the first charter of Inverugie, granted to him
by King William the Lion; this charter he states to have been lately in the
possession of the Earl Marischal, and he suggests that 'le Chien', as it was
written of old, is the true name. Cheyne says that up to the time of William
the Lion (1165-1214) the only trace of any Cheyne in Scotland is that of
William de Chesne; but the fact of Yvo de Vipont witnessing charters of
William the Lion between 1187 and 1203 at Aberdeen, points strongly to this
William de Chesne being identical with Gulielmus Canis. He says there is no
record as to how Bernard, son of William came to be granted this charter of
Inverugie, but it would seem probable that it was acquired through his, or
his father's marriage with a daughter of le Neym. Both le Neym and de Chesne
witness charters of de Vipont early in the 13th century, and this indicates
at least an acqaintanceship; whilst the name of Bernard in the le Neym
family sugguest a connection by marriage.
In 1252, a Willliam le Chen was exempted for life from being placed on
juries, assizes, or recognitions. (But see 1253, Patent Rolls, William de
Chaenny of the Channel Isles who is granted similar exemption- page 25 above.)
Circa 1269, a William le Chen of Bradewell, Essex, held a messuage, 40 acres
of land, a watermill, a marsh and pasture, and 37s-2d yearly rent, of the
King by serjeanty ? of the falchion (de Gleyve) in fee; and after his death
his nephew Sayer (Sahierus) le Fleming held that land. (Cal. Inq. P.M. Vol
I:833)
There was John le Chen, deceased in 1253, who owned lands in Ireland.
The pedigree given by Cheyne56 starts with a William le Chen and proceeds
through Bernard to Sir Reginald who married firstly a Comyn and then
Eustachia Colville. Sir Reginald had two sons, Reginald and Henry. From the
'Rot. Scacc. Regum Scot' (1878) comes the following data regarding the
former Reginald:-
"Sir Reginald le Chen. Memorandum quod die ... anno domini MCCLXIIII. ...
Testibus, magistro Willelmo Wischard, tunc cancellario, domino R. le Chen,
domino Joanne de Parco, tunc loco constabularii, et Eugenio thano de
Kathenes." (Thanage was a noble tenure, the thane's rank, though inferior to
the earl's, being at least equal to that of the baron. In most instances the
hereditary thane has disappeared, and the lands are in the natural
occupation of the king, or let on lease to a 'firmarius', who, however, may
yet be a person of consideration. Thus the firmarius of the thanage of
Fermartin is Reginald le Chen, afterwards Chamberlain, whose son married the
elder daughter and co-heir of Freskyn of Moray. In 1202, Harold earl of
Caithness had half his earldom taken from him and given to Freskyn of Moray
as the earldom of Sutherland.)
"Item in compoto Reginaldi le Chene, firmarij de Fermartin ...." "Computum
Reginaldi le Chen, vicecomitis de Kincardin, &c, de Watinga vnius (noctis)
de Fetherkern, &c, &c." (Waytinga was a yearly tax paid by the thanes in
addition to their rents in place of the burden of entertaining the king in
his progresses. The sheriff of Kincardine debits himself with the waiting of
one night at Fettercairn. Kincardine castle was delivered into the hands of
Edward I in 1291 and then to John Balliol.)
Part of the inquisition in Ulster:-
Sir H. de Mandeville promised land to John son of Sir H. de Logan, to seduce
Reginald le Chen when he was fighting against Coumay Ochaan at Glasdale.
(Cal. Inq. Misc. Chancery, Vol. I, No. 410. 1272)
Adams and Innes of Learney58 state that in 1296 Sir Reginald Cheyne signed
the 'Ragman Roll' and swore fealty to Edward I, but his son, Reginald, who
had, in the meantime, succeeded his father, was one of the Subscribers to
the famous declaration to the Pope, regarding the independence of Scotland,
signed in the abbey of Arbroath, 6th April 1320. They also state that Sir
Reginald's offspring comprised two daughters, Marjory and Mariota; but this
is at variance with Mr. Cheyne's pedigree56 in which it states that the
offspring comprised a Reginald and a possible Francis and Elena, and that
this third Reginald had the Marjory and Mariota.
King David II (1329-71) granted the following charters to the Cheynes:-
a. To Ronald Chene, Duffus and the fourth part of Kathness, given by William
de Federeth, in the county of Inverness;
b. To Marjory Chene, the lands of Strathbrock, etc., and half of Catnes.
Marjory became the wife of John de Keith in 1368 - John was the second son
of Edward, the Marischal of Scotland - and took with her the estates of
Inverugie and Strabrock and the third part of the barony of Duffus. (Her
grandmother was Mary, eldest daughter and coheiress of Freskin de Moravia of
Duffus.) Mariota married, in 1362, Nicholas, second son of the earl of
Sutherland, from whence sprung the Lords Duffus.
The lands inherited by daughters of Ranald Chen, and carried respectively to
the Sutherlands and Keiths, passed to the Oliphants, and ultimately became
the property of the Sinclairs, earls of Caithness.
Henry le Chen, brother of Reginald the baron of Inverugie and
grandchamberlain of Scotland, was appointed Bishop of Aberdeen in 1282 in
succession to Hugh de Benham. In the Rot.Scacc.Reg.Scot., 1264- 1359, there
is this note:-
Henrici le Chen (Straloch in his hands) "Et nihil hic de quadraginta solidis
sterlingorum per redditum assise terrarum de Stralouch, quia in manu Henrici
de Chen, super quo consulatur rex. ...."
(There is also a note (ibid) regarding a Roberti de Chen:- "Ex computo
Roberti de Chen, vicecomitis de Kincardin, factum, etc ..."
Cheyne56 says that the name was written 'le Chen' or 'le Chene' until 1400
and from then until 1600 as 'Chene'. After that it was commonly written as
'Cheyne'; but at various times it appeared as de Cheneye, Cheyng, Cheen, le
Chyne, Cheine, Cheyn, and Schen. The name is still common in Buchan where it
is pronounced as 'cheen', but elsewhere as 'chain'. He says that the male
representation of the family in Scotland would appear to be now continued
through the Edinburgh descendants of the Arnage branch, i.e. from the
Francis who was uncle to Marjory and Mariota.
REFERENCES
6 Cleveland, Duchess of The Battle Abbey Roll. 1889.
56 Cheyne, Y.A. The Cheyne Family in Scotland. 1931.
57 Grant, F.J. Zetland Family Histories. 1907.
58 Adam and Innes of Learney The Clans, Septs and Regiments of the
Scottish Highlands. 1952.
At 04:24 PM 4/20/98 +1200, you wrote:
>Gidday from NZ
>Info on Sir Thomas Cheyne is contained in a book "The Cheyne Family of
>Scotland" By Lieut Col A Y Cheyne 1931 Please advise fax number and i'll
>send it seems to be a private publication this book i've a copy fromn the
>Dunedin NZ Public Library via library interloan service cheers
>
>peter Wood
G'day, Peter,
I seem not to know what all I have. I can probably blame being busy but this
old mind of mine must share some also. Yes, I have the A.Y. Cheyne book and
have indexed it and redone the charts. I think it might be acceptable to
reprint the chapter on Scotland for folks on this list. I will be happy to
send a few pages at a time.
--Derick S. Hartshorn
At 08:58 AM 4/20/98 +0200, you wrote:
>Derick, I don't know whether it is proper to post something like this
>to the whole list, but I took my father (who has turned 70 this
>year) to his hometown last Sunday. We visited the graves of his
>ancestors and family members who were buried there. My brother went
>along and he had a conversation with my dad, which I recorded on my
>camcorder. At each grave he recognized, he stopped and told us a
>little about the person buried there. The resulting video is
>something I will cherish for long after my father has passed on. I
>think that it is absolutely vital that we ask the people who are still
>around about their past while they are still around. I hope that my
>children will one day be able to appreciate what I have done and hope
>that they will return the favour.
Brian,
I couldn't agree more. So many folks I talk to regret not having made the
effort to take advantage of the knowledge that is still available. The point
is that whether we are down under, half around the world, or wherever,
knowledge about the past is diminishing every day. Please share any
particulars, if you choose. I think many Cheynes will detect a common thread.
--Derick
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