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Does anyone recognize any of these names???? Family stories tell of a feud
between brothers and one the changing the spelling of the name to from Mcchesney to Chestnut. The PA railroad later changed it to Chesnutt in their records. Also it was told that the family was originally from Scotland where the name
before coming to America was Mc Chesney. Has anyone have a link to this line?
Descendants of Thomas Patton Chestnut
Generation No. 1
1. Thomas Patton Chestnut (Thomas ?) was born 1873, and died 1936 in Armstrong
Co., PA. He married Ada E. Farster Abt. 1900. She was born 1881, and died 1957
in Armstrong Co., PA
More About Thomas Patton Chestnut:
Burial: 1936, Cochran Cemetery, Pine Twp., Armstrong Co., PA
Occupation: Farmer and Railroad employee
More About Ada E. Farster:
Burial: 1957, Cochran Cemetery, Pine Twp., Armstrong Co., PA
More About Thomas Chestnut and Ada Farster:
Marriage: Abt. 1900
Children of Thomas Chestnut and Ada Farster are:
i. Mae Chestnut b. Abt. 1900, Pennsylvania; d. Templeton, PA; m. William "Bill"
Wilkerson
ii. Violet Chestnut, b. Abt. 1901, Pennsylvania; d. West Virginia; m. Joseph
Cummings
More About Violet Chestnut:
Residence: West Virginia
2. iii. Robert Roy Chesnutt, b. September 30, 1902, Mahanoy, Schuylkill Co., PA;
d. October 22, 1989, Rochester, MN.
iv. Fred Chesnutt b. Abt. 1905, Pennsylvania; d. Cape Coral, Florida; m.
Kathryn Unknown, Pennsylvania.
More About Fred Chesnutt:
Residence: West Virginia
More About Fred Chesnutt and Kathryn Unknown:
Marriage: Pennsylvania
v. Carl Chesnutt, b. April 04, 1909; d. November 1968; m. Leona Unknown; b.
August 01, 1915; d. December 02, 1994.
Notes for Carl Chesnutt:
[Broderbund Family Archive #110, Vol. 1 A-L, Ed. 6, Social Security Death Index:
U.S., Date of Import: Jan 19, 2001, Internal Ref. #1.111.6.44394.142]
Individual: Chesnutt, Carl
Social Security #: 177-01-8187
Issued in: Pennsylvania
Birth date: Apr 4, 1909
Death date: Nov 1968
Residence code: Pennsylvania
More About Carl Chesnutt:
Individual Note: dates are not proven. Came from SS death index.
Residence: Mahoney, PA
Notes for Leona Unknown:
[Broderbund Family Archive #110, Vol. 1 A-L, Ed. 6, Social Security Death Index:
U.S., Date of Import: Mar 28, 2001, Internal Ref. #1.111.6.44395.110]
Individual: Chesnutt, Leona
Social Security #: 189-30-8811
Issued in: Pennsylvania
Birth date: Aug 1, 1915
Death date: Dec 2, 1994
ZIP Code of last known residence: 16259
Primary location associated with this ZIP Code:
Templeton, Pennsylvania
Generation No. 2
2. Robert Roy Chesnutt (Thomas Patton Chestnut, Thomas ?) was born September
30, 1902 in Mahanoy, Schuylkill Co., PA, and died October 22, 1989 in Rochester,
MN. He married Garnett Ruth Adams November 08, 1928 in Pennsylvania, daughter
of Clark Adams and Bessie Shaffer. She was born September 29, 1906 in
Templeton, Armstrong Co., PA, and died January 23, 1990 in Rochester, MN.
Notes for Robert Roy Chesnutt:
Robert Roy "Pop" Chesnutt told me that the family name was Scottish. He said the
original family name was McChesney. He went on to say that his father told him
that brothers in his family got into an argument. As a result one of them
changed the spelling of his name to Chestnut, so as not to appear related to the
family. Pop spelled his name Chestnut until he went to work for the RR. They
spelled it "Chesnutt" on all his records including Social Security. It was
easier for Pop to change his spelling than go through the paperwork. Robert
Paul may be the first birth with the Chesnutt spelling
Please note that the PRRT&HS does not have any records of PRR employees. The
Commonwealth of Pennsylvania may at the William Penn Museum and Archives in
Harrisburg, Pa. You may also try the Temple University library. How many
employee records and what years are covered is not known. Unfortunately,
many PRR employee records were destroyed first when the PRR Broad Street station
burned in 1922 (if I recall correctly) and then when a warehouse in West Philly.
burned in 1996.
More About Robert Roy Chesnutt:
Burial: Rochester, MN
Individual Note: Changed spelling of name from Chestnut to Chesnutt when he went
to work for the PA Railroad.
Military service: Bet. 1941 - 1945, East Brady Home Guard
Occupation: Pennsylvania Railroad
Religion: Christian Missionary Alliance
Residence: 1949, East Brady, PA
Web Site: http://kc.pennsyrr.com/
More About Garnett Ruth Adams:
Burial: Rochester, MN
More About Robert Chesnutt and Garnett Adams:
Marriage: November 08, 1928, Pennsylvania
Children of Robert Chesnutt and Garnett Adams are:
i. Dale Roy Chesnutt, b., Kittanning, Armstrong Co., PA
More About Dale Roy Chesnutt:
Burial: Cochran Cemetery, Pine Twp., Armstrong Co., PA
Cause of Death: Died at 6 months of age.
ii. Robert Paul Chesnutt, b Phillipston, Pennsylvania; m. Helen Loretta
Riddle; b, Grove City, Mercer Twp. PA
Thanks
Rhonda Chesnutt
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The Scotch-Irish migration occurred over a century before the potato famine and was the result of English landowners raising the "rack rent" on N. Irish lands farmed by the Scotch-Irish. They were so named because they had been driven from Scotland a century or so before that for essentially the same reasons. After becoming successful in farming in N. Ireland, they became hated by the native Irish and today we continue to see that animosity there. As a result of the farmers being unable to pay the increased rents,the Scotch-Irish migration to America became one of the largest in history and largely accounts for the subsequent population of the American south and east. The reason it remains unrecognized as a national movement is because the Scotch-Irish did not identify themselves as an ethnic group, but rather as American. My reference for this subject is "The Scotch Irish: A Social History" by James G. Leyburn, Univ. of North Carolina Press, 1962.
Linda Chaney Murphey
chartrek(a)juno.com wrote:
>Hi Mark,
>
>My great grandfather, whose name I don't know, came to America from
>Ireland in the 1850's. From what I've been discovering on the genealogy
>sites, the Chesnuts from Ireland came entirely from Northern Ireland, and
>before that possibly from Scotland. But, I have no evidence about where
>in Ireland my ggf came from. I have information that he lived in
>Waterloo, Iowa when my grandfather, James David, and his twin sister
>Eleanor were born. This was in the late 1860's (I don't have the date
>handy and, like you, I don't carry all these details in my memory.).
>There were two older brothers, one of whose names I've discovered was
>George, and I know a little about him. I know most about Eleanor. All
>these Chesnut children were orphaned, and Eleanor and James David were
>taken in by relatives in Missouri. (They grew up in separate homes.) I
>think James David may have come to Texas when a town named Rock Island
>was established by developers near Columbus, Texas. The earliest
>settlers in Rock Island came from the Midwest! James David married in
>Rock Island, but soon moved to Houston. My father, David, was born in
>Houston in 1902. My grandfather James David eventually returned to the
>area where he grew up around Columbia, Missouri, and he died there in the
>1930's.
>
>Doesn't sound like you and I are connected, unless the connection goes
>way back to an early time in Ireland. I've often wondered if my great
>grandfather came to America during the great Irish famine with a view
>toward meeting up with relatives who had settled in America earlier.
>
>There seem to be a great many Chesnuts now. I have little hope of ever
>finding any concrete evidence that goes back to Ireland. If I ever find
>out my great grandfather's first name, I think I'll be doing pretty good!
> Both my cousin and I are working on our Chesnut background and there are
>a lot of uncertainties at this point.
>
>
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I am not familiar with these names. So sorry.
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Subject: [CHESNUT] Midwestern Chesnut, 1850-60?
I am Charlene Chesnut.
>
>Grandfather is James David Chesnut of Missouri and Texas. His sister
was
>Dr. Eleanor Chesnut of Missouri, who died in Lien-Chow, China. One of
>their brothers was George. Searching for name of other brother, also
>name of all these children's father who immigrated from Ireland in the
>1850's. Their mother's name was Mary Cane (Cain, Kane, etc.) who died
in
>Waterloo, Iowa. James David and Eleanor were born in Waterloo.
>
Hi Mark,
My great grandfather, whose name I don't know, came to America from
Ireland in the 1850's. From what I've been discovering on the genealogy
sites, the Chesnuts from Ireland came entirely from Northern Ireland, and
before that possibly from Scotland. But, I have no evidence about where
in Ireland my ggf came from. I have information that he lived in
Waterloo, Iowa when my grandfather, James David, and his twin sister
Eleanor were born. This was in the late 1860's (I don't have the date
handy and, like you, I don't carry all these details in my memory.).
There were two older brothers, one of whose names I've discovered was
George, and I know a little about him. I know most about Eleanor. All
these Chesnut children were orphaned, and Eleanor and James David were
taken in by relatives in Missouri. (They grew up in separate homes.) I
think James David may have come to Texas when a town named Rock Island
was established by developers near Columbus, Texas. The earliest
settlers in Rock Island came from the Midwest! James David married in
Rock Island, but soon moved to Houston. My father, David, was born in
Houston in 1902. My grandfather James David eventually returned to the
area where he grew up around Columbia, Missouri, and he died there in the
1930's.
Doesn't sound like you and I are connected, unless the connection goes
way back to an early time in Ireland. I've often wondered if my great
grandfather came to America during the great Irish famine with a view
toward meeting up with relatives who had settled in America earlier.
There seem to be a great many Chesnuts now. I have little hope of ever
finding any concrete evidence that goes back to Ireland. If I ever find
out my great grandfather's first name, I think I'll be doing pretty good!
Both my cousin and I are working on our Chesnut background and there are
a lot of uncertainties at this point.
Charlene,
My grandfather was Webb. He was one of 11 siblings. His father was Jonathan
who had 2 brothers, James and Joseph. One of these headed for Texas after
the Civil War. (I am not home right now or I could tell you which one) I also
cannot remember who the 3 brothers father was right now. The best I have
been able to do, with this web pages help, is about 1690 from county Antrim,
Ireland. My ancestors came over in the early 1700's through Philly, down
through VA, NC, SC, GA into Alabama in the early 1800's. My group settled in
the northeast section of AL. South of Ft. Payne, West of Rome, GA, NEof
Gadsden, AL in Cherokee county. (towns of Gaylesville and Blue Pond).
What part of the Midwest are you in?
Mark
Hi Mark,
What was your grandfather's name? Maybe he is the lost brother of my
grandfather that I'm looking for. No one ever mentioned Alabama, but
maybe that's where he got off to!
Charlene
hey Charlene,
I am Mark Chesnut from north Alabama. My father's name is James David
Chesnut. Got to be a link there somewhere.
just a gee whiz note
Mark
I am Charlene Chesnut.
>
>Grandfather is James David Chesnut of Missouri and Texas. His sister
was
>Dr. Eleanor Chesnut of Missouri, who died in Lien-Chow, China. One of
>their brothers was George. Searching for name of other brother, also
>name of all these children's father who immigrated from Ireland in the
>1850's. Their mother's name was Mary Cane (Cain, Kane, etc.) who died
in
>Waterloo, Iowa. James David and Eleanor were born in Waterloo.
>
This is all very confusing. I wonder was there a lot more movement between
County Antrim and Scotland in the early 1800s than we may have thought. Not
unreasonable maybe, after all, they are within sight of each other. My
thanks to Cliff Shaw of Fredericton for the abstract from the book "Grave
markers ...."
****
Gravestone at Toberdoney Presbyterian Church in North Antrim:
Sacred to the memory of Robert Chesnut who departed this life January 10th
1846(16?) in the 87th(81st?) year of his age. "Blessed are the dead who die
in the Lord. Amen saith the Spirit for they rest from their labours and
their work do follow them". This stone was erected by his son Robert Chesnut
Esq of Frederickton New Brunswick, British North America as a mark of filial
respect to the memory of his affectionate parent. Peace to his (soul?)
****
Information taken from Grave Markers in the Old Fredericton Cemetary in
downtown Fredericton.
Taken from "The Old Burying Ground, Fredericton, N.B. Vol III" by Isabel
Louise Hill. Published 1992 in Fredericton New Brunswick (ISBN
0-9696365-0-4).
CHESTNUT
In memory of Robert Chestnut, died 24th January, 1859 61 years. Also
Margaret, his mother, died 26th July 1860 aged 88 years. Margaret, his
wife, died 15th October, 1860 aged 56 years. And Amelia Ray, daughter of
Robert and Margaret Chestnut and wife of James Moore died 23rd April 1862
aged 29 years.
In memory of Amelia Ray, born at St. John 28th August 1827, died 17th
September 1828. Margaret, born at St John 5th August 1823, died 31st
January 1830. Margaret Sandall, born at Fredericton 17th December 1833,
died 8th January 1836. John Wesley, born at Fredericton 5th May 1840, died
19 Sept 1840. Robert born at St John 22nd October 1829 died at Fredericton
7th July 1843. Thomas Overton, born at Fredericton, 27th April 1838, died
3rd March 1849, children of Robert and Margaret Chestnut. Three brothers
and three sisters sleep calmly in the dust to await the Archangel's trump
Awake, ye just! Your souls have long been with me in the realms above.
Come forth with joy to celebrate you nuptial Love. Glory to Jesus Amen
Amelia Prudence Moore, 1854-1935
In Memory of Janet, wife of Daniel Johnston, died at Lebanon, Maine, 13th
September 1849 aged 35 years: also Charles Robert died 23 August 1839 aged 9
months; and Sarah Lewis died 26th September 1848 aged 12 years, children of
the above. Beloved are the dead which die in the Lord. Suffer little
children to come unto me and forbid them not. This monument is erected by
an affectionate husband and father.
This lot is fenced with an iron rail supported on stone posts. The handsome
monument commemorates Robert Chestnut, his mother (Macpherson) and his
sister Janet (Mrs Johnston), all born in Scotland, and his wife Margaret,
eldest daughter of Henry Anthony of Portland whom he married in July 1822
and six of their children. Also his granddaughter Amelia Prudence Moore who
lived, from the time her mother died when she was none years of age, with
the Chestnuts.
Robert Chestnut, when a deep sea captain, was given the freedom of the city
of St. John for taking people off a wreck off the Red Head near St John.
In 1829 he came to Fredericton and lived near the steamboat landing. He
retired as a trader in 1836, and began a small retail business.
Royal Gazette
17 May 1836
JACKSON'S HOTEL Since the fire in 1836 Henry Jackson was advertising in May
that he "is located at the steamboat wharf formerly occupied by Mr Robert
Chestnut...London and Cork newspapers constantly taken in. Good stabling
and an experienced groom always in attendance.
Fredericton
June 1, 1836
New Fashionable Goods - Just opening at the Store formerly occupied by Mr
Thomas Pickard, nearly opposite the Phoenix Building, a choice selection of
New and Fashionable Goods, worth the attention of purchasers.
R. Chestnut
The former stand of Robert Chestnut near the Steamboat Landing was occupied
in 1836, by McPherson and Coy (dry goods and groceries), and his large house
adjoining was occupied by Henry Jackson as a hotel.
The sister of Robert Chestnut married in 1832.
MARRIED, in St John, 14th July 1832, Mr Danile Johnston, merchant of
Wakefield to Janet, 3rd daughter of Robert Chestnut of Hamilton,
Lanarkshire, Scotland.
A son of this marriage was an agent, in Fredericton, for agricultural
implements manufactured in Ontario.
Enoch Wood, a son of Robert Chestnut, named after a prominent minister in
Fredericton at the time married a daughter of Stephen Whittaker who lived on
Waterloo Row: his tannery was in the rear on Sunbury Street. Henry
Chestnut, brother of Enoch, married Miss Helen Turnbull. At least three of
the large houses on Waterloo Row were built by members of the Chestnut
Family.
Robert Chestnut, Joesph Gaynor, and Thomas Pickard, Trustees of the Wesleyan
Church, Fredericton, were responsible for the organ and bell, imported in
1848, for use of the said chapel.
Chestnut and Sons, hardware, Queen Street, near York became a most
prosperous business, and it is the Chestnut business ability which made
Chestnut canoes and snowshoes famous the world over.