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Does anyone know if this farm still exists? I can find a road called
Ivy Farm Drive but not the farmhouse itself.
Barbara Chambers might know but I'm not sure if she is on the list or
not. Has anyone got her contact
PS There is a photo of it in the book on Neston which Barbara edited.
(Neston Stone Age to Steam Age)
I think I’ve found the Marriage listing for you.
RICHARD HUGHES 20th May 1799 WREXHAM DENBIGHSHIRE WALES TO JANE EDWARDS………..A Strong POSSIBILITY I would think. Found Original on FMP. No Parents named or occupations……Both of Same Parish by Banns.
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On 23 June 2017 at 13:27, Mike Morris <morrisind(a)rogers.com> wrote:
> Hi Adrian, You did not mention. Have you located her husbands grave or
> her parents ?
Thanks - Sue Downhill suggested it might be useful to locate her parents'
burial and this seems a rather interesting point because I can't find their
burial either when I follow her suggestion and check.
Her husband appears to be buried in Haslington St Matthew's. I say appears
because he is commemorated on his parents' gravestone there but I'm now
pondering if he's actually in that grave - the register is at Chester RO
(but not in FMP) so it's on my list to check the next time I go there.
Regardless of her husband (whose death occurred some years later) I suspect
that her parents and siblings, who seem to be missing baptisms and burials
in bulk, may offer a clue **if** I could locate them.
Hello again Adrian,
I note that Harriet's death is registered in Nantwich and in the 4th Qr of
1885 (if I'm reading FMP correctly) yet she died in April. I think 6 months
is allowed for registration but I wonder why the delay - there could be a
number of reasons. Inquest? Unclaimed body? Have you checked newspapers?
Does the death certificate give the cause of death and say where exactly she
died - you say somewhere in the district? Was she buried in Nantwich itself
perhaps? It is only 8 miles from Haslington.
Does she appear in Censuses? Any further clues you have???
>From : rae.otterswick(a)btinternet.com
To : ruthgenda(a)btinternet.com
Subject : Burials of Haslington
Hi. Not at all sure how to do this but hope it comes through anyway
With my family searches in Cheshire I discovered a persistent link between Haslington, Barthomley and Weston.
If these have not been checked it may by worthwhile, if only to eliminate them.
Alvanley Hall is currently a Grade 2* Listed building by Historic England
(ex-English Heritage). The star indicates that it is a special building.
See here: https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1136561
for a plan and description. Photographs are shown here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Listed_buildings_in_Alvanley of Commonside
Farmhouse which is also a listed building (very sweet) and of AH. AH is
recorded in Nikolaus Pevsner's *Cheshire* if you can borrow a copy from your
The National Archives hold a number of bundles of documents, including
domestic vouchers, that relate to AH in the first half of the 18thC See
=range&_ro=any&_st=adv> &_dss=range&_ro=any&_st=adv One 1768 lease lists
the names of each parcel of land forming the property which may tally with
what you have named in the wills. Names of property tend to stick over the
years. Domestic vouchers are great for providing background
knowledge/context for family history researchers and even though these
vouchers are later than you need them to be the bundle may offer surprising
nuggets of information through referencing to earlier
times/incidents/owners. The National Archive can provide copies of
documents if you request them.
The documents are mainly from the ARDERNE Collection.
No sign of William FORSTER though.
The following updates have just been announced for CeshireBMD
Message from Ian Hartas, Cheshire.
Hi, Cheshire BMD has been updated to add:
18 for Ashton under Lyne, St Anne's Chapel, Burlington Street, registers at Tameside(1996-2007)
4 for Ashton under Lyne, Independent Methodist Chapel, Waterloo Road, registers at Tameside (1985-1999)
20 for Newton in Mottram, St Mary, registers at Tameside (2011-2014)
512 for Wallasey, St Hilary, registers at Wirral (1957-1968)
51 for Liscard, St Thomas, registers at Wirral (1955-1981)
500 for Poulton, St Luke, registers at Wirral (1952-1967)
Many thanks to Helen Gill, Norma Turner and their respective colleagues for these.
Web address: http://kirksoft.co.uk/
Sent from my iPad Pro
Hi there does anyone know the history of Alvanley in the late 1500s and
early 1600s I have in possession of a number of old family wills where lots of
mention is made to the Great House and the little end house and garden at
Alvanley Commonside also it appeared William talks about his estates in
Alvanley ie leaving his wife the Little End of Great House.
I don't have any clue as to where Hannah may be buried, only some searching
tips that have worked for me.
She died early, years before her husband, so I would look to see where
relatives were buried during the time frame when she died.
Keep in mind, it may not be in the local cemetery. I have ones that were
buried 200 miles, 1500 miles from where they died, just to be with family.
So, who in the tree... mother, father, deceased child, in-laws, & etc. died
around 1885 give or take 10 years.
Hope this helps... you have helped so many of us!
Sue in USA
Searching James Downhill, James Owen, Jonathan Hamlet
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 3:00 AM, <cheshire-request(a)rootsweb.com> wrote:
> 1. Burial of Haslington resident 1885 - where? (Adrian Bruce)
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 21:06:18 +0100
> From: Adrian Bruce <abruce6155(a)gmail.com>
> To: CHESHIRE Mailing List <CHESHIRE(a)rootsweb.com>
> My GG gran, Hannah Cooper (nee Newton, b 25 April 1840) died 19 April 1885
> somewhere in Haslington Rural Sanitary District (according to her death
> certificate). I have been trying to work out where she was buried.
> FMP has nothing for her burial in Cheshire (only the index to her death
> In addition I have visually checked the PRs for Haslington, St. Matthew's
> and Wheelock Christ Church just in case there is an indexing problem.
> Can anyone suggest where else she might be buried?
> I couldn't find any burial records on FMP for Crewe Green CofE, which must
> make that a possibility. I believe that the PR for that is at Chester RO.
> I also know that there were burials at the Primitive Methodist Chapel in
> Bradeley Road, and the Congregational Church in the Dingle (both in
> Haslington). I have no idea how many burials there might have been in the
> PM Chapel - not much room if I remember - and there is a pretty small
> graveyard at the "Congo". However, I cannot locate any burial registers for
> those two (oh - just thought - should I be looking for Circuit level books,
> not chapel level books?)
> I am inclined to suspect a non-conformist burial since her last 2 children
> have no baptism on FMP whereas the previous ones were all baptised at St.
> Matthew's CofE - as if she moved from church to a chapel earlier on.
> All bright ideas about where to look gratefully accepted!
> End of CHESHIRE Digest, Vol 12, Issue 95
On 21 June 2017 at 02:07, Lynda Burke <lynda(a)chetwood.org> wrote:
> Have you tried Crewe, or Crewe Green?
Thanks Lynda, for the suggestions. As I said, I'd already decided that
Crewe Green is a candidate - but the relevant burial registers don't appear
to be in FMP. They are at Chester RO, so that's on my to-do list for the
next time that I go there.
As for Crewe - mmmmm - sort of. I can't see that she'd be buried in a
church graveyard in Crewe - there are only a couple and no obvious reason
for the family to ignore Haslington to go to Crewe. If she's some
non-conformist denomination, then yes, she might have ended up in Crewe
Municipal Cemetery - but I really need to check the Haslington Primitive
Methodist Chapel in Bradeley Road, and the Congregational Chapel in the
Dingle first, given that they are right on the scene. But I'm seriously
stuck on those 2 because I have no idea where "their" burial registers
My GG gran, Hannah Cooper (nee Newton, b 25 April 1840) died 19 April 1885
somewhere in Haslington Rural Sanitary District (according to her death
certificate). I have been trying to work out where she was buried.
FMP has nothing for her burial in Cheshire (only the index to her death
In addition I have visually checked the PRs for Haslington, St. Matthew's
and Wheelock Christ Church just in case there is an indexing problem.
Can anyone suggest where else she might be buried?
I couldn't find any burial records on FMP for Crewe Green CofE, which must
make that a possibility. I believe that the PR for that is at Chester RO.
I also know that there were burials at the Primitive Methodist Chapel in
Bradeley Road, and the Congregational Church in the Dingle (both in
Haslington). I have no idea how many burials there might have been in the
PM Chapel - not much room if I remember - and there is a pretty small
graveyard at the "Congo". However, I cannot locate any burial registers for
those two (oh - just thought - should I be looking for Circuit level books,
not chapel level books?)
I am inclined to suspect a non-conformist burial since her last 2 children
have no baptism on FMP whereas the previous ones were all baptised at St.
Matthew's CofE - as if she moved from church to a chapel earlier on.
All bright ideas about where to look gratefully accepted!
I am currently still trying to link a Samuel Large, wife Mary Jackson?(possible marriage 1762 Passenham, Northants)who had several children in Newcastle Under Lyme - to a Joseph Large and Jane Turner who had a son Samuel in Sandbach 1741. Joseph may also be linked back via a John Large and Ellin Stanway who had a son Joseph around 1714 in Wharton, Davenham Cheshire. There may well be Bunbury links further back
I believe that Samuel's son John (bapt 1781 NuL), after losing his mother in 1785 (he was only 4), eventually as a young man moved south to Stourport on Severn to work as a canal boatman and later as a foundryman. He married an Elizabeth Baker in Kidderminster in 1811. Some offspring,though Stourport born, were baptised in Barlaston,Staffordshire in 1818 and 1822 and possibly his first daughter Elizabeth was baptised in 1812 in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire. Samuel his father had been a Newcastle under Lyme blacksmith and died in 1812 in the town.
If any of these names are familiar, even if they are incorrect links, I would appreciate making contact.
I have been researching Joseph Fenna of Hale,parish of Bowdon, who was
transported to VDL for poaching in 1829. His trial was well reported in the
newspapers of the time, but I am unable to find out what happened to his
parents (Anne & George) and some of his siblings. They either missed the
subsequent Censuses - or changed perhaps, their names.
One sister Mary Anne came to Tasmania where she made a successful marriage,
and one brother James, also came to the colonies, where he died in 1856.
I am interested to know what became of his sister Eliza and her husband
William Perkin (who turned kings evidence), his brothers William (b: 1806)
who was also arrested, John (b: 1818) and sister Harriett (b:1811).
Does anyone know if there were a) an Immigration scheme they could have
been part of or
b) an epidemic
about 1830 which may have affected them?
According to the newspaper report, Joseph was living in Dob Lane with his
father George and brother-in-law William Perkin. No mention of the rest of
If anyone has any suggestions as to where to look further, it would be much
I don't know about this family, but I do know Hale, in fact I was there this
morning. If you aren't nearby, I am happy to take pics of roads, houses,
gravestones etc. Bowden is a lovely little village, with a very old church.
Good luck with your search
> On 13 June 2017 at 06:35 valda talbot <valdajoan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I have been researching Joseph Fenna of Hale,parish of Bowdon, who was
> transported to VDL for poaching in 1829. His trial was well reported in
> newspapers of the time, but I am unable to find out what happened to his
> parents (Anne & George) and some of his siblings. They either missed the
> subsequent Censuses - or changed perhaps, their names.
> One sister Mary Anne came to Tasmania where she made a successful
> and one brother James, also came to the colonies, where he died in 1856.
> I am interested to know what became of his sister Eliza and her husband
> William Perkin (who turned kings evidence), his brothers William (b: 1806)
> who was also arrested, John (b: 1818) and sister Harriett (b:1811).
> Does anyone know if there were a) an Immigration scheme they could have
> been part of or
> b) an epidemic
> about 1830 which may have affected them?
> According to the newspaper report, Joseph was living in Dob Lane with his
> father George and brother-in-law William Perkin. No mention of the rest of
> the family.
> If anyone has any suggestions as to where to look further, it would be
> Thank you
> Val Talbot
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