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I'm looking for Rowson relatives.
This family originated from Shrewsbury with Edmund Rowson and
Annis Gittins. They headed for Manchester in the early 1800s with
6 children :- Edmund (my ggg grandfather), Joseph, Charles, John,
James and Elizabeth. Edmund jnr married Mary Anne Brown (they
stayed in Manchester), had 3 sons :- William, James and Frederick.
James ( g grandfather) married Mary Batley - their childre were
Edmund, William, Annis, Percy, Ewart (my grandfather), and Harold.
James Ewart married Gladys Mitchell, from Stoke, having 8 children :-
Donald (deceased), Sybil (NZ), Joan, Dennis (my father), Marcia,
Alex, and Roland.
If any Rowsons or rellies of this lot read this we'd be pleased to hear
from them. Sorry, I see I put 1 too many 'g's on Edmund.
I don't remember anyone answering the query on an "old recipe", so here is my
Frankincense Myrrh Drug.
This natural oil was known to the Ancient Egyptians for the treatment of
CUTS amongst other things. It is also referred to many times in the Bible.
Like most natural oils, it must be thinned down for direct use on the Human
NOTE the derivation of this comes from the Middle East!
White Raisins (Wite Rorsons)
These are made from the Sultana Grape grown in Turkey.
In Safeways (OOPS an advert perhaps?) I have just bought a package of these
to snack on. These were produced in Turkey, and exported under their better
known name "Sultanas". Sultanas have long been known historically to promote
the healing process, as well as an easily carried food on long Camel trips.
NOTE the derivation of this comes from the Middle East!
My Assumptions :
Who were well known as Doctors at a time when we spelled White as Wite?
Who would require treatment big time for Deep Cuts?
My guess would be the Arabs during the Crusades, this knowledge would then be
brought back to Europe ----- and that is how Safeways started!
I am afraid I can't remember the other ingredients, so I will close while I
am still in front.
Ricky Cooper (Tongue in cheek and about to go A-Maying)
Also, don't overlook Stockport St. Mary. There are many marriages there of
people who lived in Stalybridge and Dukinfield - some still regarded it as
'the parish church'. It may also be worth a look as an ANDREW - defnitely
the singular form of the name - family predates yours in Stockport at the
turn of the 19th century. Good hunting.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Kirk" <Bob(a)Kirksoft.co.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [CHS] ANDREW, Staley
> If there is a chance they were non-conformist you should also look toward
> Old Chapel Dukinfield.
> Bob KIRK
> Interests Are:
> KIRK (Crewe & Manchester)
> DAWSON (Manchester)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Local Studies & Archives Unit" <archives(a)mail.tameside.gov.uk>
> To: <CHESHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 4:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHS] ANDREW, Staley
> > Hi David,
> > Well, Staley was the original part of Stalybridge, which is now called
> > Millbrook.
> > As far as the churches are concerned, it would depend on what
> > dates you need - pre-1839, you probably need St. Michael's at
> > Mottram-in-Longdendale or (possibly) Old St. George's in
> > Stalybridge.
> > Hope this helps,
> > Nell,
> > Tameside Local Studies & Archives Unit.
> > David Andrew wrote:
> > > I'm trying to trace the family of Ralph ANDREW, who was born in Staley
> > > (Cheshire) in ~1800. Can someone please help with the following
> > > straightforward) questions that I am struggling to find answers to:
> > >
> > > Which area did 'Staley' cover?
> > > Which churches should I be looking at for baptism records?
> > >
> > > Many thanks,
> > >
> > > David Andrew
> > > York
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Hello, I have just registered with the list. Although I don't live in
Cheshire I have recently discovered that many of my paternal ancestors
originate many years ago in various parts of Cheshire. A fellow descendant
has traced the family back to 1599 in Sandbach.
The main names I am researching are;- MERRILL ( also spelt MERILL/MURRILL )
I can remember as a small boy, a long while ago, being taken by my grandmother, Sarah Ann WOOD, nee
HULSE, to see a relation of the above name. This would have been in the 1940's either during or
just after the end of World War 2.
All I can recollect is that the above was a butcher and got himself in trouble during the war for
the illegal slaughter of cattle.
I would assume that he had married a WOOD/HULSE but am unable to establish a connection.
Does this ring bells with anyone?
Should anybody lay claim to the above would they kindly contact me off list as I could well have a
family line that may not be known to you.
He would have been from the Wybunbury area and born circa 1810.
>Hi All, looking at my parents marriage certificate in has my Mom as Edna
>Jones,spinster,yet on the Cheshire BMDs she is listed as Edna Gillespie.
>Now my grandmother married an Angus Gillespie well after my Mom was born,so
>why two names, do you think that Angus Gillespie adopted my Mom, or is there
>some other reason for this.
Do the reverse search and look for Harry Pattin. You'll see that Edna's marriage
is listed twice, once as GILLESPIE and again as JONES.
When this happens, it usually implies that it's a remarriage and hence both
maiden and former married names are listed. As the certificate says spinster, it
would suggest to me that your adoption theory is correct, i.e. born JONES,
but marrying whilst known as GILLESPIE.
"Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate"
I am new to this list and would like to post my interests.
I have just found out that I have a Collier on my husband's side of his
family tree and thought I would try and find out more on this side of the
Samuel COLLIER born 1829 Flixton, Cheshire. He married a Hannah BUCKLEY
1849 Ashton under Lyne, St Michael.
They had the following children -
John COLLIER born 1850 Crofts Bank, Cheshire, England
Sarah COLLIER born 1860 Crofts Bank, Cheshire, England
Hannah COLLIER born 1863 Flixton Lanchashire
Alice COLLIER born 1865 Manchester
Ellen COLLIER born 1869 Manchester
Harriett COLLIER born 1871 Davy Hulme, Cheshire, England
Joseph COLLIER born 1872 Flixton, Cheshire, England
In the 1881 Census they are listed as living at Manchester, Lancashire
Hannah COLLIER married William Asaph STAMP 1889 St. Michaels Flixton.
Any information that anyone can give me on the COLLIER name or BUCKLEY would
be gratefully appreciated.
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I wonder if someone with access to the 1861 census would kindly look up the MORRIS family in Sandbach for me, please?
The family is: Thomas MORRIS (shoemaker) and his wife, Hannah
Children: Mary Ann, Jane, Maria, Sarah, Samuel & Thomas.
According to the 1851 census, they were living at 153 Back Street in Sandbach.
Thank you in advance for your help :-)
Susan (in sunny & warmer)
Amongst my late fathers possessions, I have found some photographs taken from
old photographs of Northwich. I am happy to send these as jpegs to anyone who
may find them of use or interest. They are titled as follows:
McCormack Seven Stars (Dec 11th, 1891).
A Marbury Stream, A Favourite Pleasure Spot For Northwich Children (Not dated
but contains several youngsters faces in the picture).
Townshend Arms, Witton Brow, Northwich (January 1913, Mary Ann Brogden
Marbury Lodge, Northwich (Not dated Photo - Jeffries).
Tabley Street Nos 45 to 61 (April 13th, 1897).
Parrs Bank Nov 25th, 1891.
Sunny North Yorkshire
Finally recovered from an excellent Easter Sunday lunch in the Maypole, Acton
May I ask for a lookup please?
Can SKS with access to the WITTON marriages, NORTHWICH please check the wedding in 1861 of EDWARD STAGG and MARGARET MADDOCK and tell me if her father's name is PETER? If it is, then I found the right family in Liverpool where she was born.
Thanks a lot
Dorothy J (Llandudno)
Hi All, looking at my parents marriage certificate in has my Mom as Edna
Jones,spinster,yet on the Cheshire BMDs she is listed as Edna Gillespie.
Now my grandmother married an Angus Gillespie well after my Mom was born,so
why two names, do you think that Angus Gillespie adopted my Mom, or is there
some other reason for this.
I cant figure this out.
Margaret in California
My FRITH family
1841 Census Antrobus HO7 107/92
Peter Frith 65 Farmer
Betsy Frith 65
Ann Rider 25 Female Servant
1851Census for Cheshire Antrobus 2164
Joseph Frith unmarried 42 farmer 30 acres /3 Lab Alderley Cheshire folio
James Frith unmarried bro. 35yrs same as above
Ann East wido Serv 42 Housekeeper High Leigh cheshire
Elibeth Ratcliffe serv. 22 servant Antrobus cheshire
James Mills Serv. 14 servant Antrobus Cheshire
Thomas Higgins Ser. 21 Farm Labourer Galway (deaf & Dumb)
Dwelling: The Hollins
Census Place: Antrobus, Cheshire, England
Source: FHL Film 1341841 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3512 Folio 11
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Louisa FRITH W 68 F Great Budworth, Cheshire, England
Occ: Farmer Of 65 Acres Employing 1 Man & 1 Boy
Edward FRITH M 26 M Antrobus, Cheshire, England
This is three generations of FRITH families that worked the Hollins
kind regards, Mary from Surrey BC Canada
Could SKS help me find information on a murder that took place in Cheshire.
A Mary GALLOP was hanged for murder in 1844 at Chester goal. Is there some
way of find out about the trial or possibly a report on it in some
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I am looking for a connection between two Smith females Hannah and Martha
who I think are sisters and both married brothers in the same family. I know
Hannah's father was George Smith from her marriage certificate but am trying
to establish Martha's as I can't find the exact date of her marriage to
obtain a certificate
Hannah Smith born 1817 in Audlem married John Fisher at Audlem St James, 22
Martha Smith born 1830 in Buerton married Sampson Fisher at Audlem St James
between 1861 and 1864.
My direct line is via Hannah and John and this piece of information could
help establish another link in this direction who have cross border
connections with Shropshire towns nearby.
Fisher, Smith, Sneed, Price, Allen, Davis in Audlem and Whalley in
Thomas, Edwards, Kemp, Bishop in Childs Ercall, Stoke on Tern and Market
Hi All, we were treated to a show called the Manor House, what an eye opener.
Not sure how many people tuned in but, to me it brought back so many memories
of my Grandmother who worked in a big house like that in the early 1900s.
My question is how do I find out exactly which house she worked in.
Is there a place in Cheshire where such records are kept. I think she worked
in Whitby Hall, but not sure of that fact, would be interested to find out
exactly the Hall she worked at.
I have a lovely photo of her all dressed in Black from head to foot, with
hair in a tight bun. She is standing behind the lady of the manor all dressed
in her finery, and children on her lap dressed like they were royalty.
No wonder my grandmother rarely talked of those days, how hard she worked and
my mother to, as she was also a servant in the 1920s,in service as they
called it in those days.
Eighteen hour days was nothing in those days for servants, and they both
continued to rise at five am every day until they died. Must be something in
the genes as I to rise at five even though I don't have to. When I had my own
business sixteen hour days were nothing to me, and people thought I was nuts
to work so long.
The other thing we had in common was we were all cooks for other people. I
don't know how many people my Mom and grandmother cooked for at one sitting,
but I once did a party for four hundred with just one helper, took me a week
of prep work, but I did it and I would like to think that my grandmother
would be proud that I carried on the family tradition.
Margaret in California
I have a William Fisher married to a Jane Price 20th April 1752 @ Audlem St
I think they are the grandparents of James Fisher born 1783 in Coxbank
Audlem who married Mary Sneed born Madley, Staffs in 1784 at Audlem St James
23rd february 1809 .Looking at the date of William and Jane's marriage I
think they would have been to old to be his parents.
Can anyone lookup the marriages of James to Mary and Willam to Jane so I can
try and establish the connection or find the missing parent link between the
I received the following email regarding the book on St Michael's, Macclesfield.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 10:27 AM
Subject: Book on St Michael's Church, Macclesfield
The book has been written in support of the Open Door Project and all proceeds from the sale are going towards the Project so I am very grateful for this mention. In case anyone wishes to buy the book, it is available from Open Door at 33/35 Churchside, Macclesfield, SK10 1HW, open Tuesday to Friday between 9.30am and 12.30pm, telephone 01625 421984; email: macclesfield(a)teamparish.freeserve.co.uk. The book costs £11.95 and postage and packing is £1.65. We are currently arranging to supply it to local booksellers. It should already be available at Jardine's in Knutsford.
Open Door has a web site: www.stmichaels-macclesfield.com and click on the Open Door Project.
The Gough Map dates from c.1360 and is held by the Bodleian Library at Oxford. Let me know if you need any more information.
Does anyone on the list have an older relative who might remember the BURNINGHAM market garden shop in Boughton Heath in the 1940's & 50's? They lived at "Wellfield" and must have brought the produce into town. I'm trying to trace the descendants of Walter & Emily Burningham who originally had the shop.