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Your comment is just the basic situation. I too have been a member of
the Staffordshire Parish Register Society for many years.
I have been informed, by a Committee Member of the SPRS. Ancestry.com
have taken the vast majority of older Printed Registers and published
them on CD without any reference to the SPRS or without their
permission. The SPRS has, it seems, taken the matter up with
Ancestry.com claiming that Ancestry are in breach of copyright.
Ancestry.com has said that UK copyright is no concern of theirs, as it
does not apply in the United States. Their response, has been to tell
the SPRS to go and "get lost" or even worse.
What it boils down to, is that Ancestry.com have STOLEN these Registers,
made a CD from them and are selling STOLEN RECORDS. Their sole object is
to make money for themselves.
As a direct result of this Info from the leading Committee Member, I
will NEVER buy any item or service from Ancestry.com. I object to their
sponsorship of these lists, and only tolerate that because the Lists are
one of the few "good points" of Ancestry.com
In The Staffordshire Potteries Where The Mugs Come From
I think you will find that the information on the CD is an amalgamation
of previously published registers. Ancestry.com haven't employed a load
of folks who are busily beavering away transcribing the registers. What
they are putting on the CD is already out there, and available. On the
other hand, to get all the information on 1 CD for £30, could be a good
I can't speak for Warwickshire & Derbyshire but I think the
Staffordshire parishes on the CD have been taken from the books
published by the Staffordshire Registers Society.
For anyone not familiar which this Society, they have been issuing
transcriptions of Parish Registers at the rate of 3 or 4 a year since, I
think, before the First War.
Many of the Record Offices have copies; there are a lot in Lichfield RO,
quite a few in Walsall RO, and I believe Stafford RO has a full set. I'm
not a member of the Society but I have found their publications very
useful. You can flick through the book in about a tenth of the time it
takes to plough the fiche, and then having found something of interest,
you can then go and check it out on the fiche.
==== STAFFORDSHIRE Mailing List ====
The List for the Ancient County of Staffordshire
Hi Sue. Thanks a million for the link. It looks as if they have re-vamped
the site and possibly found a new server but it is what I was looking for.
Once again, thanks very much.
FAIRHURST, (Cheshire& Lancs): BUTTERWORTH, (Crewe & Rochdale): HALL,
(Crewe): HATTON, (Winsford): LIGHTFOOT, (Winsford): FINNEY, (Winsford):
JONES, (Crewe & Caernarfon).
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Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 5:52 PM
Subject: [CHS] Check out Middlewich Cemetery
31">Click here: Middlewich Cemetery</A>
> Is this what you are looking for?
> ==== CHESHIRE Mailing List ====
> Cheshire County Record Office:
I am looking for the PROCTOR family . I believe they might have been in
Cheshire at the time of the 1891 census, but I do not have an address.
Here they are from the 1901 census.
Joseph PROCTOR, head, Age 40, born Louth,Lincolnshire.
Sarah do, age 40, born Ludford, Lincolnshire
William do, age 20, born Bingham, Notts
George, age 13, born Nottingham, Notts
Eliza, age 11, born, Chapel-en-le Frith,Derbyshire
Eliza is my grandmother and she was born in 1890, but I have had the 1891
census for Derbyshire checked and they were not found there.
The next child, Harriet, was born in Lymm, Cheshire about 1895.
If SKS could check the Cheshire census for me it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you, Marina
Wondered if there is anyone researching the following CROMPTON's.
My husband's g-grandfather was John CROMPTON, butcher, 36 Edward Street,
Stockport. He owned the butcher's shop in Edward Street.
He is listed in 1892 Kelly's along with George CROMPTON, butcher, 3 Rowcroft
Robert CROMPTON, butcher, 30 Little Underbank, Stockport.
John was born Dinting 1841
George was born Glossop 1846
Robert was born Stockport 1843
In the 1881 census index Robert is at 7 King Street, Stockport.
I am trying to establish if these CROMPTON males are related and would like
to hear from anyone researching this name or from anyone who may be able to
help regarding the butchery trade.
Could someone please refresh my memory on two points please?In the 1841 census adult ages were rounded, I believe, in increments of 5.What ages would have been rounded out to 40?Secondly would parents, traditionally,have named their first born girl after the fathers' mother or the mothers' mother?Ray.Jones,Ontario
Hi list, I have a link to an index for Middlewich Cemetary which no longer seems to work. I get the message "Not found on this server". Anyone one know what has happened to the index.
FAIRHURST, (Cheshire& Lancs): BUTTERWORTH, (Crewe & Rochdale): HALL, (Crewe): HATTON, (Winsford): LIGHTFOOT, (Winsford): FINNEY, (Winsford): JONES, (Crewe & Caernarfon).
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Noted on Canada BC Obits of 30 December 02
NB Spelling is as Listed.
BYROM _ Aurthur, born March 30th, 1916 in Birkinhead, England passed away
December 24th, 2002 at the Royal Columbian Hospital, New Westminster. He is
his wife, Estelle; daughter, Christina; son, Stewart; daughter-in-law,
stepdaughter, Bernice; stepson, Pat; grandchildren, Christopher, Aurora and
well as many other relatives and friends. He was a great story teller and
will be sadly
missed by all.
BECKETT, Bostock, Leighton, Wettenhall, Frodsham
MOORE, Aston by Budworth, Pickmere
BLACKSHAW, Tabley, Gt Budworth
OWEN, Alderley, Pickmere
Any info greatfully received.
Collen - the form is to be filled in withe the data that you know - what you
dont know ignore.
I would put a covering letter in with the application to explain what you
know, what you suspect and what you dont know . The best thing to do is to
treat the registrars as humans and talk to them albeit in writing. Put your
email as well as Phone number on the application. If there is a possibility
of two folks at the same "time" they will normally contact you to ask what
you want to do .
I apologise if this question has been asking many times before. I am about to send off for a birth certificate for my Great Great Grandfather. I have printed off the application form, but it asks for name of his mother and father. I have an idea but I aren't positive, do I have to fill this part in?
Also there is other parts of the form, like name of hospital where he was born, which I have no idea about, so can't fill it in. Will they still send me the birth certificate without me providing this information?
Thanks in advance
Just register my interest in the above names
GIDMAN - Lots of names, places, and dates ( to many to place in this email )
Sarah WINDSOR born 1876
Edward WINDSOR born 1852
Ellen WINDSOR born 1844
Charles NICHOLLS 1853 to 1918 Married Hannah JONES ( born 1849 @ Saughall Nr Chester ) in 1878 They hand 4 children
Elizabeth ( born 1880 ) who married John Thomas WINDSOR
Robert ( born 1879 ) who married Helen DUMPHY in 1901
Thomas George ( born 1882 )
Charles William ( born 1884 ) Crewe
I would love to here from anyone with any of the above interests
Have just read today's Digest and see that I forgot something in my
message yesterday. This pertains to the marriage of Fanny Heitman Smith
(nee Carter) to John Charles Hoffman. on Sept. 4 1882 at St Mary's
Witnesses to marriage were -- Constance Carter, Arthur Wellington
Carter, Edward Heathcote Carter and Margaret Walker Carter.
Ring any bells? Marjorie
Does anyone have connections with the above family?? Mrs Bennett was a close
friend of my aunts - my aunt died in 1996 and I have just been going through
her papers and photos etc.
Amongst her things I found a beautiful letter written my Mrs Bennett (Eunice
I think - her husband was John Edwin). It is written to her baby son John
Norman (who she refers to as Norman) on the event of his 1st birthday in
1905. She tells him how much she loves him and how lucky they are to have
him and her hopes for his future - brings tears to the eyes.
Although I am reluctant to part with anything that belonged to my beloved
aunt I really do feel that this belongs with the Bennett family.
Please contact me if you are, or know of this family.
Bond St was quite a decent area, mostly terraced houses and mostly still
there. The nearest church was actually Christ Church but the main parish of
the area at that time was St Peters, Prestbury and there were many chapelries
attached to this parish one of which was the parochial chapelry of
Macclesfield otherwise known as St Michaels, Macclesfield. St Michaels is
also pretty near Bond St. If you are looking for baptisms and burials best
bets are either Christ Church or St Michaels but marriages are very likely to
be at St Peter's, Prestbury. Hope this helps, if you would like to know more
about the area you can e-mail me privately, I grew up a stone's throw from
Can anyone please help with the references in the 1891 census. It would be
very much appreciated.
>Subject: Re: [CHS] Surnames Help
>Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 07:23:48 EST
>I have the 1891 census surname index of Birkenhead.
>The following references to Percival are as follows:-
>Perhaps SKS could do a look up for you.
>Hope this helps.
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Dave's recent message on locating Billington cousins is prompting me to
re-post that I have BILLINGTON, WHITTLE, MEREDITH, NASH, FISHER connections
in the 1700-1800's. Have been waiting to post more inquires until some cd's I
ordered had arrived and I had a chance to explore them for leads. My specific
line emmigrated to Springfield IL USA in the 1840-1850's but want more
information on the ancestry.
Any connections or leads appreciated,
Anne in Aurora IL USA