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As a total newcomer I would like to greet fellow investigators, and to
mention two long-standing puzzles of my own:
1) William and Deborah HOUGH. They had two daughters christened at
Rostherne, Deborah 27.12.1734, and Mary 9.9.1737. I think Deborah
(snr) died and William re-married at Gt.Budworth 29.10.1739. I cannot find
William & Deborah' s marriage, Deborah's burial, or the probable christening
of a son, Richard.
2) Thomas and Hannah WALLWORTH or WHALLEY, and their daughter Elizabeth.
The names appear to have been used interchangeably, but that's only part of
the problem! Thomas & Hannah were resident in Warmingham in 1809 (when
Elizabeth produced a son), but I can find no trace of their births, marriage
or burial. There were a Thomas & Hannah in Alderley, late 18th cent., but
these are the wrong ones. An Elizabeth Wallworth married John Wood of
Church Hulme at Middlewich in 1819, aged 29, hence born app.1790. These
Elizabeths are quite probably one and the same, but I can find no trace of
her birth or subsequent life & death as Mrs.Wood.
Any leads on these items would be much appreciated.
Best wishes, John bennett.
Hi Judy, Episcopalian means a system of Church government by bishops, such as
the Church of England and the Episcopalian Church in the US. Presbyterianism
is government by representative bodies elected by the members of the church.
They are completely different.
By saying he was an Episcopalian he could mean he was Church of England.
Hi lists members,
My name is John Axon from Iowa, U.S.A. and I have just joined the list for the first time.
I have been reading some of the message forwarded to me and my impression is that you are all a great bunch of genealogist. So happy to be in your league.
My main interest is in the AXON surname. I also am searching the surnames of MEADOWCROFT and HYDE which have married into the AXON's and vice versa. My tree should be leaning to the side by the way families inter-married. More on the MEADOWCROFT and HYDE families later.
1. My gx3grandfather SAMUEL AXON b:15 Mar 1798 in Haughton, Bunbury, Cheshire. Married ESTHER POLLITT (spelling maybe incorrect) b:1801(?) m:24 Jul 1820 Manchester(?). Immigrated to the States in 1841. Both buried Ancaster, Ontario, Canada.
Parents: WILLIAM/BETTY AXON no other information known.
Children: ROBERT; JOSEPH (my lineage); ELIZABETH; EDWIN; WILLIAM; JULIA; HENRY; CHARLES; FREDERICK (b: USA); ELI (b: USA) and MARY b/d: 1830 and buried at St Paul's, Compstall, Cheshire
Brother: JAMES b: 1805 d: 12 Aug 1887 and buried at Chadkirk St. Chad.
Is there anyone on the list which can help in finding:
a: Information about WILLIAM/BETTY AXON and their ancestors.
b: Information of other siblings of SAMUEL AXON.
c: Someone near St Paul's, Compstall to confirm and picture the grave site of MARY.
d: Someone near Chadkirk St. Chad to picture the grave site of JAMES.
Any and all cost involved will be gladly forwarded.
Being the first time on the list, I am asking so much and hopefully I will be welcome to come back. Anything that I may help on this end, your request is just a message away.
Thank you very much in advance and I am looking forward to a very long communication with this site.
I was wondering if anyone could help me with my search for Parnells.
My family are mainly around the Norfolk area although I have traced my my ggg grand father to Ireland
Any help would be appreciated.
Would it be possible for anyone replying to reply to my personnal e mail address though as I will be unsubscribing at the end of the weekend due to holidays.
Yesterdays - Part Two
WAKES TREAT TO ASHTON WORKHOUSE INMATES
In accordance with the usual custom the inmates of the Union Workhouse were
given a Wakes treat on Ashton Market Ground on Wednesday. About one hundred
inmates, old and young, deaf and dumb, the halt and the blind, took
advantage of the opportunity afforded of having a "razzle-dazzle" on the
Market Ground. They were accompanied by the Workhouse Master (Mr SHORE) and
a staff of attendants, and walked in procession from the Workhouse to the
Fair Ground, where they arrived about two o'clock, and were taken in hand by
Mr J SNELL, Chief Constable, who had arranged a capital programme for their
Every attention was paid to their requirements by the Chief Constable, who
was ably assisted by Sergeant TOLSON and several constables. The first place
visited was Captain T PAYNE's latest electric bioscope, where they were
enabled to see trick and laughable pictures by the score, also local living
pictures in which Ashtonians were asked to see themselves as others saw
them. The local pictures represented workpeople leaving Whittaker's Hurst
Mills, Heginbottom's, and the Wellington Mills, Whitelands-road.
The visitors were next delighted with a ride on COLLINS' Venetian Gondolas,
which the generous proprietor allowed them to monopolise to their hearts'
content, stopping at intervals to see who had had enough. They subsequently
tested their equestrian abilities on John COLLINS, jun, galloping horses,
and from there they went "tobogganing" on John GREEN's switchback, and later
on got amongst the poultry, and indulged in long flights of imagination as
they were being whirled round on Peter COLLINS' cocks and hens.
They wound up at the Fish Market, where they were entertained by Mr John
WHITEHEAD, fish dealer, to a sumptuous repast of oysters, shrimps, fruit of
all kinds, cocoa nuts, mussels, ice cream &c. On leaving the market they
were each presented with a parcel of fish to take back with them. A most
enjoyable afternoon was spent, and when the visitors assembled outside the
market they did not fail to show their appreciation of the kindness and
consideration of those who had so lavishly catered for them.
* * *
SUICIDE AT LITTLEMOSS
Sad End of a Club Treasurer
Mr J F PRICE, county coroner, held an inquest at Droylsden on Monday into
the death of James HOWARD, late landlord of the Golden Pheasant Inn, who
committed suicide on Friday evening week. A "Wakes" club had been held at
the house, the deceased being entrusted with the money, and the distribution
should have taken place that evening.
Ann HOWARD said deceased was her husband, and was 51 years of age. About
7.30 on Friday evening the deceased asked her to go an errand, and at that
time he was doing some writing in connection with the "Wakes" club. When she
returned he was found suspended by means of a clothes line round his neck in
an outhouse. He had never threatened to commit suicide. She understood that
he was a bit short in his "Wakes" club affairs, but he had not said so.
John THORNBY, stonemason, said deceased told him on Friday evening that he
would make the club payments between eight and nine o'clock. He then
appeared very nervous. John COOPER, of the Welcome Inn, Ashton-under-Lyne,
said deceased called upon him on Tuesday and Wednesday week. He said he was
in financial difficulties and wanted £100. On Wednesday they went to try and
borrow the money, but were unsuccessful. He (COOPER) knew that the deceased
did a little betting.
The Coroner said it was evident that being short of money the deceased had
been driven to take his life. Envelopes had been made out with the members'
names on them, and the amount due to them. The total amount of the club
appeared to be somewhere about £130. He was of the opinion that betting was
at the bottom of the matter. The jury returned a verdict of suicide, but
expressed no opinion as to the state of the deceased's mind at the time he
committed the act.
* * *
TO MAKE ASHTON A "LITTLE HEAVEN"
Sir, Knowing that your paper is one that is always straight to the point
and speaks openly for anything that is for the benefit of the town and the
people, I wish to make a few remarks to my fellow workers of the power they
have in their hands if they will but use it. Years ago, Ashton was called
the prettiest and cleanest town in the north of England. Is that so to-day?
If not, why should it be so different from what it was? This is the fault of
the workers themselves. They have the power in their own hands of altering
this condition of affairs.
First of all, we must obtain ownership of the land. The law at present gives
the power to all Corporations to purchase land for improvements and to build
upon that land whatever is for the benefit of the town. Land so purchased
should be used for the building of houses not kennels for the working
class, houses that will be an ornament to the town, with a pleasant front
and proper accommodation at the rear, with sufficient breathing room so that
the rising generation shall have such surroundings that their young minds
will be raised above the present paltry level. The streets should be made
brighter by the addition of avenues of trees, which would clear the air and
give a healthy surrounding to the homes of the people.
Secondly,, the water, the light, and trams should be under public ownership.
This would lead the people to go in for the control of the coal, bread and
milk supply three things which are sadly needed in Ashton. Let people work
in earnest, and nought can prevent the town from becoming a little heaven on
earth. I am yours truly, IGNORAMUS
* * *
THE THEFT OF BRASS FITTINGS AT GORTON
Workmen Sent to Prison
At the Intermediate Sessions for the Hundred of Salford, held at the Assize
Courts on Monday, Patrick RYAN (29) a labourer of Meadow-street, Openshaw,
and William LYONS of Aitken-street, Gorton, were indicted for stealing164lbs
of brass, the property of Messrs Slack and Brownlow, manufacturers, Abbey
Hey, Gorton, valued at £7 10s. Richard LOMAS (45), general dealer, 460
Manchester-road, Droylsden, was accused of receiving the same knowing it to
have been stolen.
Mr LEARY prosecuted, and Mr GIBBONS defended LOMAS. The other prisoners
conducted their own defence. It was stated in evidence that the prisoners
RYAN and LYONS sold the brass, which was worth £7 10s, to LOMAS for £2 3s
4d, who re-sold it to a dealer in Stalybridge for a profit of a halfpenny a
pound, and that RYAN and LYONS had been in the employment of the prosecutor.
It was urged in defence of LOMAS that there was no distinguishing mark on
the brass, and that he had no reason to believe that the stuff had been
stolen. The jury acquitted LOMAS, and found the other prisoners guilty. RYAN
was sentenced to imprisonment for four moths, and LYONS against whom there
was a previous conviction to imprisonment for six months.
* * *
RESCUE OF A CHILD FROM DROWNING
Mr Harry HOLMES of Beechwood, Gorton, writes: "On the 19th day of August
1901, William Albert HILL, 45 Low-street, Gorton, rescued Eva WOLSTENHOME,
38 Friendship Avenue, Gorton, from the Stockport Great Central Railway
Canal. He is one of the labourers at the Gorton Cemetery, and the high
railings prevented him getting immediately to the drowning child, after a
quick run and a brave plunge, he brought her to the bank, and by strenuous
endeavours, aided by kindly neighbours, brought the girl back again to life.
I can bear witness to his bravery and strongly recommend him as a recipient
of some reward from any society recognising heroism in saving life."
* * *
TECHNICAL SCHOOL, MECHANICS' INSTITUTION, STALYBRIDGE
Board of Education Examination Results
Building construction John NEWTON, Harold FARMER, advanced 2nd class.
Practical inorganic chemistry Advanced 1st class: Edith LAWTON, Harry
NUTTALL, Tom WHITEHEAD. Advanced 2nd class Albert CORLETT, George M
TURNER, James O CHEETHAM, John HOLT and Harold LEES.
* * *
THE BATHING FATALITY AT STALYBRIDGE
On Friday evening Mr NEWTON, coroner, conducted an enquiry at Councillor
James BUCKLEY's Feathers Inn, High-street, Stalybridge, touching the death
of Thomas Henry BROWN, whose sad end by drowning in the Huddersfield canal
the previous day was recorded in Saturday's Reporter.
Alexander BROWN, father of deceased, gave evidence of identification. He
said his son was 19 years of age, and was a nail cutter under witness at the
Globe Forge. He resided with witness at 60 Sett-street. About seven o'clock
on Thursday evening deceased left home, he then being in his usual good
health. Shortly before nine o'clock the same night witness was informed that
deceased whilst bathing had sunk in the canal, and upon going to the place
he saw the body recovered, life then being extinct. He did not know that his
son had ever bathed there before.
Joseph HICKMAN, a youth residing at 4 Sidebottom's-court, off
Robinson-street, deposed that he was bathing in the canal near Messrs
SUMMER's forge along with deceased and other lads. BROWN could not swim, but
he went into the middle of the canall and almost immediately began to
flounder about. He finally sank, and witness raised an alarm.
Detective LEES said the police were constantly driving lads from the canal
in the warm season, but all to no purpose; they would persist in bathing
there. Several jurymen concurred, and a verdict of "Accidental death" was
The remains of the unfortunate young man were interred at St Paul's, Staley,
last Saturday afternoon. Large crowds of people assembled in the vicinity of
the residence of the deceased, many signs of sympathy being manifest in the
neighbourhood on behalf of the bereaved family. Six of the workmates of the
young man acted as bearers.
* * *
SEQUEL TO A STALYBRIDGE LANDLADY'S CONVICTION
The "Guests" Fined
On Monday, at the Stalybridge Police Court, William SCHOFIELD, Henry
SCHOFIELD, William SHEPHERD and Henry DRAYCOTT, all of Ashton, were summoned
for being on the licensed premises of Susannah MOORHOUSE, Junction Inn
beerhouse, Back Grosvenor-street, during prohibited hours, to wit 11.55 pm.
None of the defendants appeared.
Captain BATES, chief constable, said he had received a letter from Mr
POWNALL, solicitor, respecting the two SCHOFIELDs, pleading guilty on their
behalf, and stating that they would be away on their holidays on Monday. The
letter also asked the chief constable to take the cases in their absence,
and he had no objection to that course. Respecting SHEPHERD's and DRAYCOTT's
absence he could not say anything.
Sergeant HEATH was called. He said that at five minutes to twelve o'clock on
the night of the 1st inst, he visited the Junction Inn, along with Constable
A WELLS, and there found the four defendants, who were standing in the lobby
with glasses on the bar counter and in front of them. He told the men he
should report them.
Captain BATES remarked that the landlady had already been dealt with.
Alderman RIDYARD: Were there any mitigating circumstances in this case? I
think they should come before the court if there are any. Captain BATES: I
do not think there were.
Alderman RIDYARD observed that perhaps they were looked upon as friends.
Captain BATES replied: That was the defence, of course. These men were found
on the premises together with two others who were relatives. Two of the men
(SHEPHERD and DRAYCOTT) are cabmen. The Bench fined the brothers SCHOFIELD
5s and costs each, and the cabmen 1s and costs each.
* * *
RAID UPON GAMESTERS AT MOTTRAM WAKES
At Hyde County Police Court on Tuesday, Robert ASHWORTH, of 29
Windmill-street, Stockport, was charged with gaming at Mottram by means of a
watch dial the previous day. Superintendent COOPER said that in consequence
of a great many complaints he had received, he got two policemen in plain
clothes to go to Mottram Wakes, when they found the defendant gaming, and
when apprehended he had upon him £1 6s 91/2d. He was gaming with a watch
that wound up at the back, and on the dial in front were the names of
several horses, and the trick was for the person to put a penny on the name
of the horse he thought the finger would stop at. But there were always six
losers to one winner.
There were six other cases similar to this one, but they did not comprise a
quarter of the number of persons who were gaming at the Wakes. When the
defendant was apprehended there was a general stampede. In some instances
little boys had lost two or three shillings with these men, and some had
been seen to "net" as much as £6 and £7 at one standing. He asked for the
defendant to be severely dealt with. His remarks about him applied equally
with regard to the other men who would be charged.
Constable WARING said he and Sergeant TAYLOR went to the Wakes at Mottram
the previous afternoon, and there found the defendant in Church Brow with a
watch on a box, the finger of which spinned round for people to put money
on, and on whatever name the finger stopped would be the winner.
Defendant said he was very sorry, and did not know he was doing wrong. It
was the first time he had ever played the game.
Superintendent COOPER: In addition to the instrument he had a box and dice
and canvas, playing at "Under and over."
Defendant was fined 20s and costs or a month's imprisonment with hard
George Henry MORTON, 25 Oxford-road, Dukinfield; Hammond HADDY, 59 Back
Vandrey-street, Stockport; John SMITH, Angel-street, off Rochdale-road,
Manchester; James KERR, 5 Mount-street, Ashton-under-Lyne; and J BEAUMONT, 3
Howard's Buildings, Stalybridge, were charged with gaming at Mottram with a
dice and box at a game called "Under and over,' and they were each fined £1
and costs, or in default a month in gaol with hard labour.
Ian Rhodes, Stockport UK
Family history website: http://www.gravelbank.co.uk
<Qui dedit beneficium taceat; narret qui accepit.>
May he who does a good deed be quiet; may he who receives it tell about it.
Researching: RHODES in Flockton, Yorks and Mottram and Dukinfield, Ches,
(Associated families: BRADDOCK, CROSLAND, GODDARD, HARRISON, INGHAM,
RAMSBOTTOM, RATCLIFFE (possibly GREENWOOD) and SHEPLEY
BINNIE in Falkirk, Preston and Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancs and Dukinfield,
Ches, (Associated families: AIKEN, BELL, FORGIE, HARDIE, KAY, NICHOL,
RAMSAY, SHORROCKS, SMITH and SQUAIR
HARROP in Glossop, Derb and Mottram, Ches. Associated families: BOOTH and
TURNER in W Yorks and THORPE in Lancs, DEWSNAP in Cheshire
PRESTWICH in Manchester, Audenshaw and Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancs. Associated
families: CARTWRIGHT, HARROP, RYLAND and STANLEY,
CRABTREE in Haughton and Denton, Lancs and Hyde, Ches. Associated families:
RIDGWAY, ROWLAND, STANSFIELD, WARDLE
MOLESDALE in Cadishead and Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancs and Dent County,
Missouri. Associated families: CHATTERTON, CRAMOND, WALKER, WHITTAKER
Apologies, I'm playing catch-up. I was away for a few days last weekend, so
no Yesterdays which was shame, given that it was Wakes Week which dominates
this offering. Hope it's useful.
Previous summaries, with a separate search facility, can be found on my
website at http://www.gravelbank.co.uk/twww/home.htmlYesterdays Yesterdays -
24 August 1901
SAD SHOOTING GALLERY FATALITY ON ASHTON MARKET GROUND
The Use of Firearms
Ashton Wakes Ground was the scene of a distressing shooting fatality shortly
after midnight on Saturday. A young man, Edward COYLE (23), a native of
Ardwick, Manchester, and a seventeen year old girl from Preston, named
Matilda WHALLEY, were employed at a shooting saloon owned by Mr Frederick A
HARRISON, of Preston.
Shortly after midnight the order to close the galleries was given by the
police. Miss WHALLEY was in the act of withdrawing the charge from a
repeating rifle which had not been used, when a crowd of men and youths
rushed along. The girl at the time had her finger on the trigger, and some
man, it was stated, knocked against her. The rifle went off and the bullet
entered the right breast of COYLE, who was standing inside the gallery
attending to the objects to be shot at. The wounded man at once called out
The proprietor, Mr HARRISON, and others rendered assistance, but when Dr
TWOMEY arrived, COYLE was dead. The bullet penetrated his right lung and
heart, and death occurred two or three minutes afterwards. The body was
removed to the mortuary. The young girl in whose hands the rifle was
fainted. COYLE had only been in Mr HARRISON's employment a fortnight. Miss
WHALLEY and he were on the best of terms.
The inquest was held in the Court Room, Ashton Town Hall, on Tuesday
forenoon by Mr J F PRICE, district coroner. Mr COYLE, warehouseman, 5
Crawshaw-street, Chorlton-on-Medlock, said the deceased was my son, and was
a professional trick jumper. Her formerly worked at the hay and corn stores
of Mr PARNELL, Chester-road, Manchester, until he came out as a trick
jumper. He was 23 last birthday, and had always had good health. I was with
him on Bank Holiday, and he left home on the Wednesday following to commence
work for Mr HARRISON, shooting gallery proprietor, and I never saw him alive
again. I identified the body shortly after six o'clock on Sunday night.
Frederick Albert HARRISON, travelling shooting gallery proprietor, of
Preston, said: I have been on Ashton Market Ground since Wednesday night. I
have known deceased to speak to about two years. He had been assisting me at
the shooting gallery a little over a week. His duties were not specified,
and he did anything that was required. On Saturday night, he was inside the
saloon placing objects to be shot at on to jets of water. WHALLEY was
unloading her guns which had been left loaded. She held the gun with the
muzzle pointing towards the target whilst she drew the cartridge out. A
crowd of people came by and pushed against the girl's elbow and this caused
the gun to swerve round at the moment of unloading and to go off. I heard
COYLE shout "Oh, I'm shot." I went inside to him and brought him out, and he
fell right over.
Mabel WHALLEY, 38 Newton-street, Preston, said: I am 17 years of age, and
have been engaged at Mr HARRISON's shooting gallery all through last winter,
and for the last fortnight have been travelling about with him. About twelve
o'clock, the police came and asked us to stop. In accordance with the usual
custom, I was unloading a repeating rifle. With about two cartridges left in
it. I had got one of the two cartridges, and was going to repeat it. I had
my thumb on the trigger ready to drop the hammer and pull the repeater. Just
at that moment a crowd of people came, and I was not looking. They caused my
elbow to move, and it caused the gun to swerve round and go off.
At the request of the jury, the last witness took hold of the gun and
demonstrated her ability to handle the weapon. This she did with some amount
of trepidation and precaution, as if in fear of the deadly weapon containing
a charge of shot.
The jury returned a verdict of accidental death.
* * *
YOUNG WOMAN FOUND DROWNED AT DUKINFIELD
The Missing Club Money
On Monday forenoon, at the Globe Hotel, Mr Francis NEWTON held an inquest on
the body of a single young woman named Elizabeth ROE, aged 17, daughter of
Walter ROE, painter, of 95 Lodge-lane, Dukinfield, who was found drowned on
Saturday morning in the Peak Forest Canal, under the following
Walter ROE said: The deceased was my daughter. I last saw her alive about 8
pm on Friday last in Crescent-road. She was then very cheerful, and in
course of conversation asked me for a "Wakesing." I gave her 1s, telling her
that would be enough for one night. I never saw her again until I identified
her dead body on Saturday last.
Samuel AXFORD said: I reside at 222 Astley-street, Dukinfield, and am a boat
loader. I have been courting the deceased for about 12 months. I last saw
her alive about 10.30 on Friday night when I left her at the end of a row of
houses near her house in Lodge-lane. We had been to Ashton and during the
evening deceased told me that her mother had drawn mine and her own money
from the PSA Savings Club and spent it in paying a doctor's bill at
Southport. She said she was trying to borrow the money so that I could go
away. She was to have met me at 12.15 next day against the Ashton Town Hall,
but I did not see her.
John HINDLEY said: I am a boatman, and live in Astley-street, Dukinfield. At
4.15 on Saturday morning I was going along the Peak Forest Canal towing path
to my work, and when near Well Bridge I found a woman's hat, jacket and
skirt on the towing path. Thinking someone was in the water, I got a
boathook, and in short time recovered the body of the deceased.
Maria ROE said: I am the wife of Walter ROE, and the deceased was our
daughter. She was 17 years of age. On Friday night, the deceased left home
about 7 o'clock. She had then in her possession, so far as I could reckon,
£6 13s 0d, being £4 of her own money, and £2 13s 0d belonging to AXFORD. I
had not received any money or spent any in the payment of a doctor's bill.
Detective MOTTERSHEAD said when searched the deceased had 1s 01/2d in her
After some conversation about the mystery surrounding the disappearance of
the money it was decided to adjourn the inquest until Tuesday next, so as to
give the police an opportunity of tracing the money.
* * *
ASHTON WAKES CASUALTIES
Pleasures and Penalties
Rarely does the annual Wakes carnival pass over without accident, sometimes
very serious. The crowd on the Market Ground was so large on Saturday and
Monday nights and the hurry and scurry and excitement so great, that it is
surprising that there were not more accidents than there were to record.
Like all other up-to-date machinery, improvements have to such an extent
been made that steam roundabouts go double motion imparted to them by man's
ingenuity. All kinds of mechanical contrivances are requisitioned to supply
the public taste for excitement so palpable at Wakes time, and over that
quiet and at one time indubitable little arbour of retreat for juveniles,
the "pea saloon", has faded out of existence, and given way to the more
noisy and rowdy paraphernalia so characteristic of a modern Wakes ground.
Amid all the din and noise no wonder people lose their heads and accidents
In addition to the awful shooting gallery fatality referred to elsewhere,
which according to the evidence was purely the outcome of the noisy,
jostling crowd, other accidents occurred which, although not fatal, gave
cause for alarm. On Monday, a boy named Ralph CHAPMAN, aged seven, son of
Samuel CHAPMAN, a miner of Audenshaw-road, Audenshaw, was riding on DAVIES's
racing ostriches when he fell. Constable WALMSLEY picked him off the
footboard. The boy remained unconscious for ten minutes. It was feared that
the base of the lad's skull was fractured. He was taken to the Police
Station, and there examined and treated by Dr PEARCE, who promptly arrived
on the scene. The boy was found to be suffering from concussion of the
brain. He was subsequently removed home in a cab by his mother who is
stewardess at Dr CRAWSHAW's surgery, Ashton.
A serious accident occurred on Monday night to Miss Beatrice GIBSON, of 27
Lord-street, who fell from one of the steam roundabouts on to her head,
causing a nasty scalp wound and also severe bruises on the right arm and
body. She was taken home, and has since been confined to her bed suffering
from the wounds and shock, for which she is under the care and treatment of
* * *
MURDEROUS ATTACK ON A GORTON POLICEMAN
The Officer a Stalybridge Man
A sensational affair occurred at West Gorton on Tuesday afternoon, when
Police-constable Daniel BENTLEY, of the City Police Force, was murderously
attacked by a labourer, named Charles SYLVUM, residing at 10
Eskrigge-street. The occurrence had occasioned considerable excitement, and
during the hearing of the case the court was crowded with spectators.
The first witness called was Police-sergeant McDERMOTT, who received the
prisoner into custody at a quarter past four on Tuesday afternoon at the
dwelling house, and took him to the police station. The prisoner was then
under the influence of drink, and it was not until half-past twelve on the
following day that witness charged him with attempting to murder BENTLEY,
and also with shooting at him and others with intent to do grievous bodily
Witness stated that about half past two on Tuesday afternoon he was in
Clowes-street, when he was told that a constable had been shot in
Eskrigge-street. He went there, and found BENTLEY surrounded by a crowd of
people. Witness learned that the prisoner had just goner into his own house,
and had closed the door, and he accordingly followed him. When he got to the
door someone in the crowd shouted, "Look out; he's going to shoot you."
Upon that witness ran round to the back door to make sure that the man did
not escape that way; but finding the door closed he went round to the front
again to see what was the matter with BENTLEY, whom he found had by that
time got up to SYLVUM's door, accompanied by the crowd. Witness returning
again to the back door, with the object of securing SYLVUM, encountered
prisoner holding a revolver, and some people cried out that he was going to
shoot. Witness dropped in the entry, and immediately afterwards heard a shot
fired. The people screamed, and then there was another shot.
In the meantime BENTLEY had got into the house and, with the assistance of
another man, had pinned the prisoner to the sofa. The prisoner held a
revolver in his right hand, and he fired it while the struggle was going on.
When searched at the police station the prisoner had a revolver in his
possession and it contained five spent and one full cartridge. There was a
desperate struggle with the prisoner before he was finally secured, and he
fired nine shots altogether. Four empty cartridges were found near the back
door of the house, and a box containing 50 rounds was afterwards found in
his house. Yesterday morning witness had made a second search for the
remaining bullets and found two of them in the street opposite the door.
There were bullet marks on the cupboard, the window and the sofa.
Constable BENTLEY, the hero of the adventure, who showed evident signs of
the great shock his nerves had received, then described what had happened to
him. He said that the prisoner should have appeared before the magistrates
on Tuesday in answer to a summons, but he did not turn up, his wife
appearing on his behalf. She was told that if her husband appeared at 10
o'clock yesterday it would prevent a warrant being issued against him. In
the afternoon witness went to look after two witnesses who lived in the same
street, and whose lives prisoner had threatened to take if they appeared
against him Prisoner excitedly denied that this was the case.
Witness added that he went to a house in Eskrigge-street to see a woman who
was now in court to tell her that she must appear there that morning.
Leaving the woman's house and passing along the street he met prisoner
standing by his own door with a revolver in each hand. Accompanying the
threat with a foul expression, prisoner told witness that he would do for
Witness did not believe that prisoner was going to shoot until he fired
three shots in quick succession. Upon that, witness drew his handcuffs from
his pocket and walked towards the prisoner who kept on firing all the time.
He emptied one revolver right off, and witness heard the bullets strike the
wall on the other side of the street. One of them knocked his hat off.
Immediately afterwards Sergeant McDERMOTT and a constable came up, and the
crowd called out to them not to go near the door, adding "He'll shoot you
Witness burst the door open and saw the prisoner standing in the room still
with a revolver in his hand. Witness twisted his leg and upset him, and as
he was doing so prisoner again shot at him, setting his tunic on fire. In
confirmation of this, the witness's tunic was handed up for the inspection
of the Bench, and was seen to be perforated in three places. His helmet,
containing several bullet marks, was also shown to the magistrates.
Prisoner was then remanded for a week.
Part two follows
I could not see any Vonderscheff or similar, including Wilhelm, in the Gore's extracts. Hopefully when the 1901 Census is available to everybody you will be able to trace more family members.
There are Wilhelms in Britain recorded in the 1881 census, but only one Frederick Wilhelm, married, aged 35 years, born in Austria and living in London at the time of the census. Do you have access to the 1891 Census? Another thought is to see if there are any ships passenger lists for arrivals in England, say 1910 -1920. There are a number of sites, one I recently came across is:
Good luck with your project.
Thank you for your very generous and kind comment. I am just pleased to bring something to the attention of fellow
searchers who might not be aware of the site.
Just thought I'd repost my interests--and add another one:
BELL - John Thomas (b. 1877, d. prior to 1922), Weaverham
ROBINSON - Lizzie (b. 1876, d. abt. 1930), Weaverham
FLAVELL - Isaac (b. ?, Selly Oak, Birmingham, d. 1948), Northwich
GANDY - Ellen Parr (b. 1869, d. 1933), Northwich
I would also like to add that I am researching:
HUGHES - John and son Harry (1870's-1930's), Anderton and Northwich
And I would like to say, keep the flow of information going. It's great! :)
Bowling Green, KY
I have looked through the Gore extracts and do not see any of the names mentioned on first glance. There are Wyers/Wiers in Birkenhead and Tranmere, Morrins in Birkenhead only and Dillons in Birkenhead and Tranmere recorded for the 1881 census.
Should I come across the names in any other material I will let you know.
Thanks for your message:
> An ancestor of mine was married in 1892 at Wilmslow Independent Chapel,
> Fulshaw, Wilmslow (Congregationalist). I've checked the list of Wilmslow
> churches on the BMD site and can't see it listed.
> Can you tell me (a) if it's listed under another name, or (b) where it is.
I think I can answer your questions, but it's a little complicated so
please bear with me :-)
Until 1898 all weddings outside Church of England, Jewish and Quaker
places of worship were attended by the local registrar, and recorded
as civil marriages (in the same series of books as register office
weddings). After 1898 non-conformist ministers could apply for
permission to keep their own records.
I understand that Wilmslow Independent Chapel became the United
Reformed Church in Alderley Road (but no doubt other listers will
correct me if necessary), and they kept their own marriage registers
from 1910 onwards. Before that date, all weddings in the chapel would
have been recorded with the civil marriages for the
Altrincham/Bucklow registration district. These registers are held at
Trafford Register Office in Sale, and they haven't been transcribed
for CheshireBMD yet.
I hope this all makes sense!
The Family History Society of Cheshire
Many thanks to Stan, Graham and Johanna for the information on the location of Bishops Field and the Hopley surname. The Hopley's and also some of my Warringtons were living in the Hoole area at one time.
An ancestor of mine was married in 1892 at Wilmslow Independent Chapel,
Fulshaw, Wilmslow (Congregationalist). I've checked the list of Wilmslow
churches on the BMD site and can't see it listed.
Can you tell me (a) if it's listed under another name, or (b) where it is.
>>And while Ian Hartas and myself are the 'public face' of Cheshire BMD,
there are dozens of volunteers working to computerise and check the
registrar's indexes, who have the hardest job of all.<<
I'd like to add my congratulations too (having transcribed for FreeBMD I
know what a huge undertaking it all is).
Thanks in advance
Searching for information about a John Wheelton who was Sheriff of London about 1835. Had a daughter who married a Hind.
Tony Skokun -- AHTOH CKAKYH
Wheelton Web Site:
SK0KUN -- UKRAINE , POLAND, CANADA,, USA
BILYK -- UKRAINE, RUSSIA, CANADA, USA
WHEELTON -- ENGLAND, AUSTRALIA, CANADA, USA
Fellow CHS Listers,
I am pleased to announce that there is now a Mailing List for people
interested in the old records of the Parish Church of St Marys, Bowdon.
With people posting copies of records that they have discovered, I am hoping
that this list will become a repository for old records of this very old
Parish Church. I will soon be publishing the methods of searching the
archives of the list so it will be easy to look through what has been posted
before you subscribed.
I would also be pleased if the new List developed a discussion on how the
Church records can best be accessed, who has fiche, who are willing to help
transcribe records etc.etc. You might like to contribute to any discussion.
To subscribe, send an e-mail message to:
(for individual messages)
(for a digest of multiple messages)
In the body include only one word: subscribe
(Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command)
regards, Bruce Ardern
St Marys List Administrator
Hello from Canada:
We are searching ancestors who came from your area, namely JOHN HAYWOOD born in Disley Parish circa 1826 who married BETSY MILNES born in Notts Parish of St. Marys. There were two daughters born to John and Betsy, SARAH JANE HAYWOOD, CIRCA 1852 born in Macclesfield, and ANNIE LETITIA HAYWOOD born at Horwich End Fernilee. We have traced our ANNIE LETITIA (HAYWOOD) STANBROOK to Yorkshire, Hampshire, Canada. However, we have no information about her sister SARAH JANE HAYWOOD, or any information about her father. Any HAYWOOD-MILNES connections out there? Would love to hear from you at ginn(a)ebtech.net
Does anyone have easy access to the Prees CMB records on microfiche. The
last time I managed to visit the CRO there was a fiche missing from
which I wanted a copy of a specific event.
Dave Smith daves(a)quaker.demon.co.uk (01892 835974, Fax 0870 055 2959)
I am new to this list and have just discovered an ancestor of mine being born in Altrincham.
He was Henry ( Harry) DEAKIN and was born in 1868. I do know his father was William Deakin and mother Emma. They ran a Hotel in West Derby according to the 1881 census. I do also know that Henry had 4 other siblings
Any connections would be great
Sally Rea ( nee Stares)
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