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Does anyone out there know the history of divorce, when it became acceptable
and/or commonplace and where records might be kept for us to lookup?
Researching COGHLAN, BLACKETT and NICHOL from the Wirral
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My grandfather William Hargreaves GRIFFITHS was born in Lower Bebington on
23 Dec 1882. His father, born 1856, had the same name, his mother Lily was
born 1857, both in Liverpool.
I would very grateful if someone could tell me if they were still living
there during the 1891 Census and who else was in the family.
His parents were living at 146 Hamilton Road, Everton, during the 1881
Census, but of course he was not yet born.
He emigrated to Southern Africa at the turn of the century, and that is why
I can't do my own look-ups!
Robin Griffiths Tel(H):+27(0)31 5731729
38 Longwoods Drive Tel(W):+27(0)31 3625163
Glenhills Cell:082 7754200
Durban North, 4051
South Africa griffrob(a)mweb.co.za
This message is mainly directed at Vic of the Cheshire FHS. It suddenly
occurred to me to ask what Bertram Merrill's interest was in recording
Cheshire marriages, do you or anyone else know the answer to this. Perhaps
someone could ask him when he visits Cheshire. I know this sounds a little
naive, but I did wonder if it was because he may have actually started by
researching his MERRILL connections in Cheshire, as I have a marriage
between an Emma Merrill and an unknown LEIGHTON, and would like to find out
more. Any ideas?
Many, many thanks for these URLs. A few of my family names are mentioned
below, mainly KELSALL and I have recently discovered a remote SAVAGE
connection. Neither in Cheadle but the families seem to be all centred
around Sale, Timperley, Ashton on Mersey and now Cheadle.
I will investigate the sites in detail. Once again, thank you. What a
wonderful list this is.
researching CLAYTON, LEIGHTON, LAYTON, KELSALL, GOODIER, GARNER, WHITELEGG,
GERMAN, DERBYSHIRE, SAVAGE, WILKINSON, HODGSON, DRINKWATER, TABERNER, POTTS,
HEYWOOD, MADDOCK(S), MERRILL, RENSHAW, ROBERTS, ROBINSON, COOPER, SEDDON,
TAYLOR, MAIRS, and WYATT
----- Original Message -----
From: J Hough <houghja(a)email.com>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 9:52 PM
Subject: Cheshire List - Cheadle Post
I wondered if you has seen this before, not sure if I had sent this to
yourself before now.
All the best.
This township or civil parish as in Cheshire. It was formed in 1879 by the
merging of Cheadle Buckeley and Cheadle Moseley (an area now know as Cheadle
Hulme) townships or civil parishes. Both townships were in Cheadle
ecclesiastical parish and in Stockport poor law union. In 1835 parts of
Cheadle Bulkeley and Cheadle Moseley townships had been included in
Stockport Borough. In 1886 the area of Cheadle township outside Stockport
Borough was included in the area of Cheadle and Gatley Local Board of
Created 1st July 1837. Mainly in Cheshire, but included parts of Lancashire.
Sub-districts : Bredbury; Cheadle; Hazel Grove; Heaton Norris; Hyde; Marple;
Newton; Stockport 1st; Stockport 2nd; Stockport 3rd.
GRO volumes : XIX (1837-51); 8a (1852-1930).
Bosden, Bramhall, Bredbury, Brinnington, Cheadle, Cheadle Bulkeley, Cheadle
Moseley, Compstall, Godley (from 1923), Handforth, Heaton Norris (from
1913), Hazel Grove, Hyde, Marple, Newton (from 1923), Norbury, Offerton,
Reddish (from 1901), Romiley, Stockport, Stockport Etchells, Torkington,
Hesketh Arms Hotel -
(built in 1864 by William Bamford Hesketh and named after the Hesketh family
who once owned Cheadle Moseley) on the site of the original village inn the
Horse & Jockey. Court Baron & Dinnering day was held here when tenants paid
their dues and feasted. The pub was extensively modified in 1895 (the lounge
replaced the stable block). In the 1970s the bowling green became a car
The original owners of Bradshaw were the Savage family who had been lords of
half the Manor of Cheadle - later known as Cheadle Moseley - since 1368. It
was during the reign of Henry VIII that Sir John Savage built Bradshaw, his
'manor house', although not necessarily for his own occupation. He was the
possessor of several houses and in comparison Bradshaw was a very modest
building. In 1548 he leased it to James Kelsall for "thritty and seyven
shyllynges, thre penyes, half peny - for thre score yeres", along with a
water mill. The house was already tenanted by Richard Chedill, a descendant
of the family who owned the original manor of Cheadle, but by 1550 James
Kelsall had taken possession and placed his initials and a datestone over
the porch to prove it. The Kelsalls remained in occupation until the 19th
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Thanks for contacting me. All I have to tell me that William CLAYTON was
born in Cheadle Hulme is the 1851 Census. He could of course have been born
anywhere in the area and baptised at the parish church in Cheadle. As you
rightly say some of the areas you are interested in such as Hazel Grove and
Poynton are very close and so if you do come across any William's of around
the right date I would be interested in sharing the details. William Snr
married Alice GARNER at Manchester Cathedral in 1833. It was his son
William born 1839 in Timperley, Cheshire who is my gt grandfather x 2.
With regard to the changes in the family name - my direct family seem to
have adopted the LEIGHTON spelling by at least 1881 and I have discovered a
distant cousin who is descended from Samuel CLAYTON brother to my gt
grfather x 2 and she spells her name LAYTON. By 1881 Samuel had moved to
Pendleton in Salford and the spelling for his entry on the 1881 Census is
So I believe that there is every likelihood that there could be 'cousins'
out there with the CLAYTON spelling. My gt x 2 gfather's birth certificate
shows the spelling as Layton, yet the entries in Bowdon Church parish
registers show the name as CLAYTON. This is the spelling that appears in
the church registers at Bowdon for all the children of William and Alice
(nee GARNER), who were Samuel (1833), Sarah (1835), William (1838), Mary
(1843) and Elizabeth (1846).
By coincidence I once lived at Poynton!! I rented a flat there some 22
years ago. Small world. I now live in Somerset which makes my research
almost as difficult as if I were in New Zealand, like you.
I look forward to hearing from you.
----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Sawyer <sawyer(a)es.co.nz>
To: Gwyneth Bryant <gwyneth_bryant(a)lineone.net>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 4:58 AM
Subject: Re: [CHS] Resubscribed Lister/CLAYTON
At 06:50 PM 4/28/01 +0100, you wrote:
>I have an interest in CLAYTON from Cheadle Hulme. I am trying to trace the
>ancestors of William CLAYTON born in Cheadle Hulme around 1809. He later
>moved to Timperley and the spelling of the name changed through LAYTON to
>LEIGHTON. Any connections with your Claytons?
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Pamela Sawyer <sawyer(a)es.co.nz>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 10:30 AM
>Subject: [CHS] Resubscribed Lister
>I have resubscribed after being off-line for a month or two. I will list my
>surname interests and hope to hear from others who would like to share
>BLOWER (BLOOR), CLAYTON, CROSS, LEICESTER (LESTER), RATHBONE, VERDIN. Those
>are the main ones but, of course, there are other connections. I would be
>glad to hear from anyone re the above in the first place. I have gathered
>quite a bit of information since I last subscribed.
Thanks for your message. I don't think we have a connection, I'm sorry to
say. "My" CLAYTONS come from the Disley, Poynton, Hazel Grove area. Not
very far away, of course, but as far as I know the name remained Clayton
and didn't change. Clayton was my maiden name actually.
Thanks for your interest though.
Reisdents Box 148
Birchleigh Retirement Village
New Zealand 9007
Tel & Fax : 03 489 1427
I'm researching the surname GOAT/E. From the BMD St Catherines I've built up approx 120-150 separate family trees. The largest of which all are around the Birkenhead area. From these records I have some 25 stray who I know are from this family but don't know how. I have the Yr of Birth Vol ,Page but no parents name. Likewise for the marriages no spouses name. I made my first visit to Myddleton Rd believing that I'd be able to put the twigs and then branches onto the tree but they don't have copies of the parish records silly me. So if there is anyone that could look them up for me it would be greatly appreciated please contact of list.
You all know that feeling of desperation; "I'm so close, if only I could find ............"
Well, here I am - desperately trying to figure out how, exactly, the Adshead and Pickford families are related. I have many references (mostly from wills and marriages) linking the two, but just cannot pinpoint the precise 'trail' of relationships (ie Aunts, Uncles, cousins etc.)
So - knowing how wonderful people are on this list, can anyone out there help in my desperation?
The basic info is;
William Adshead (= Martha ?Hill 1733 ) silk throwster of Macclesfield, who died 1794
Anne Adshead - daughter (<21years in 1794)
Mary Adshead - aunt of William (?spinster, widow or married)
Thomas Pickford - uncle of William Adshead
William & brother John Pickford, sons of Thomas - cousins of William Adshead
Sarah Clark (nee Adshead = Joseph Clark 1755) - sister of William Adshead
Anne Withyman (a 2nd or subsequent marriage) - mother of William Adshead
John Adshead (= Mary Pickford in 1749 Stockport) - probably related to William)
Jane Prince, sister of Mary Pickford (= John Prince 1748) - ?Aunt of William Adshead
Peter Pickford, brother to Jane Prince & Mary Adshead - ?Uncle of William Adshead
Incidentally, the marriage of Jane to John Prince has often been found recorded as 'Kime' and not 'Prince' . So, if you have a 'Kime' amongst your names - I'll swap you for a Prince!
I believe the Adshead/Clark/Withyman families to be from Macclesfield and I believe the Pickfords to be from Mottram St Andrew/Adlington/Prestbury area.
Are ANY of these names familiar?
Does anyone have MI's or P.Regs. for Macclesfield and would be willing to look up MI for William Adshead died April-August 1794?
Does anyone have any Directories for Macclesfield dated late 1700's - William Adshead?
Sorry this is so long - a reflection of my desperation!
Thanks in advance. I hope some kind soul will take pity & respond.
Denise Simpkins (nee Pickford)
I wonder if there is some kind list member who has access to either directories or the electoral registers for Chester during the period 1914 to 1918 who would be able to look up a specific address for me please?
My grandfather Charles Lesley Lionel PAYNE (1892-1975) married his first wife Constance May HOGG (1889-1918) at St Paul Boughton, Chester on 30 Nov 1917. She had been living at Morden Villa, Dee Banks, Chester from at least May 1916, and continued to receive a portion of my grandfather's pay at this address until shortly before her death on 20 October 1918. The latter event took place at her parents-in-law's house at Almond Street, Derby, while my father was on convalescence leave after have been shot during the Battle of Arras - he was a machine gunner.
I am very interested in the name of the occupants/owners of this house during the period 1912 to 1914. I believe it may have been Con's parents or maternal grandparents, but it could just as easily have been a place where she was"in service". If anyone is able to do a look-up, I would be very grateful for the assistance. In return, I would be happy to try and assist with any South Derbyshire research, for an area for which I have quite a few resources.
Thank you very much.
Regards and best wishes,
Tauranga, Bay of Plenty, New Zealand
South Derbyshire Genealogical Resources
----- Original Message -----
From: "cathyheaddock" <cathyheaddock(a)tinyworld.co.uk>
To: "Ian Rhodes" <ian(a)gravelbank.co.uk>; <LANCSGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [LAN] Yesterdays - 27 April 1901 Pt One/DR PARK
> Hello All
> I was interested in the main article -especially the reference to DR
> PARK.Apparently he was some how connected to my VICKERS or HAMPTON
> of Ashton under Lyne & Dukinfield.There may also have been a connection to
> George HINCHCLIFFE (a chemist?)
> Has anyone got any info on him - his age. where he was born, where his
> surgery was , his parents & his wife's families details?
> Many Thanks
> Looking for
> IN LANCASHIRE
> ADSHEAD (Ashton under Lyne)CORLESS (Ashton in Makerfield and Wigan)HALL
> (Ashton under Lyne)HAMPTON (Ashton under Lyne)
> HEADDOCK/HEDDOCK/HEYDOCK anywhere anytime,HOLCROFT (Ashton under
> (Ashton under Lyne)
> MALONEY (Ashton under Lyne)SANDIFORDanywhere SHAW (Ashton under Lyne)
> SHOTTON (Ashton under Lyne)SMETHURST (Ashton under Lyne)VICKERS(Ashton
> WHITWORTH (Ashton under Lyne)
> IN CHESHIRE
> ADSHEAD(Northenden and Dukinfield)OLIVER (HYDE) SANDIFORD in Mottram and
> VICKERS in Dukinfield
> IN YORKSHIRE
> VICKERS, CHAPMAN around SHEFFIELD
> IN DERBYSHIRE
> FLINT, HEGINBOTHAM, LOMAS, OLIVER, ROBINSON, WARHURST (Bakewell, Great
> Hucklow, Tideswell)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ian Rhodes" <ian(a)gravelbank.co.uk>
> To: <LANCSGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 9:51 PM
> Subject: [LAN] Yesterdays - 27 April 1901 Pt One
> > Yesterdays is a two-part summary of some of the stories that appeared in
> > Ashton Reporter one hundred years ago. They are mainly about the events
> > the lives of the people who lived in that area of south east Lancashire
> > north east Cheshire.
> > This week, we see the outcome of the Hurst bigamy case reported last -
> > justice was swift in those days!
> > Previous summaries, with a separate search facility, can be found on my
> > website at http://www.gravelbank.co.uk/twww/home.html.Yesterdays
> > THE SINGULAR DEATH OF A CHILD AT DUKINFIELD
> > Supposed Poisonous Sweets
> > On Monday afternoon, Deputy Coroner NEWTON resumed the inquiry at the
> > House, Dukinfield, into the death of the little girl Bertha BAYLEY who
> > on March 12th under somewhat sudden and peculiar circumstances.
> > William ASHTON said: I live at 11 Foundry-street, Dukinfield, and am a
> > by trade, but have not followed the occupation for seven years. The
> > deceased, Bertha BAYLEY, was my granddaughter, and was five years of
> > She lived with me and my wife from her birth. On Saturday, the 9th
> > she went to a children's party at the Reform Club, Town-lane, and I saw
> > there several times. Before she went she was in the enjoyment of her
> > health, and as merry as a cricket. She was naturally a healthy child,
> > the exception of measles &c. I saw her in the club during the evening,
> > she did not complain of anything. When I got home at half past nine
> > she was at home and asleep, and nothing was said about her being ill.
> > On the Sunday she seemed in her usual health and went to Ashton with her
> > grandmother. About three o'clock on Monday morning she was in bed and
> > out to her grandmother that her belly hurt. Grandmother and her aunt got
> > and found her vomiting and relaxed. She was very ill and did not seem to
> > any better. At ten o'clock in the forenoon Dr PARK was consulted. He did
> > come, but sent some medicine. He, however, arrived at ten o'clock at
> > and examined her, and expressed the opinion that she would be all right
> > the morning. At three o'clock on the Tuesday morning she became worse,
> > went for Dr PARK. He came back with me. The child was then dying and
> > between three and four o'clock.
> > The Deputy Coroner: Can you tell us what she ate at the party? No. - Can
> > tell us what they provided for the children to eat? Well, there was
> > bread, sweet bread, nuts, sweets and oranges. - Could they take as much
> > they wanted? No, the nuts, sweets and oranges were "allowanced" out in
> > Some had to do without. Bertha was one as someone said she was not a
> > s child. She began to "skrike" (cry - Ed) and Mr WILLIAMS said "You
> > not go without," and gave her some. He had given the sweets to all the
> > children at the party Can you give me any idea of the exact quantity of
> > and sweets given to each child? No. Dr PARK said after she was dead he
> > afraid she had been poisoned.
> > Dr J R S PARK said: In the afternoon of Monday the 11th March, between
> > and three o'clock, Mrs ASHTON, of 11 Foundry-street, came to my surgery.
> > said her grandchild, Bertha BAYLEY, was suffering from vomiting. She did
> > appear to attach any great importance to the matter. I gave her medicine
> > prescribed in the usual way. About ten o'clock the same night I was sent
> > to see the child, the messenger saying that she was worse. I saw her at
> > 'clock. I found her vomiting and purged with pains in her stomach and
> > bowels. I elicited that she had been to a tea party on the Saturday
> > and I expressed the opinion that she had upset her stomach. She was then
> > weak and exhausted, but I attributed it to her relaxed condition. I
> > them to continue the treatment - fomentation - and did not think the
> > very serious at the time.
> > At three o'clock the following morning I was again sent for. I went
> > immediately and saw her. She was then in a convulsed and collapsed
> > condition. She died in about half an hour. The cause of death I
> > be inflammation of the bowels. The symptoms were such as were due to
> > partaking of indigestible food. After certifying that death was due to
> > gastro enteritis, information came to me that several other children who
> > also been to the party were more or less similarly ill. On inquiry, I
> > that the deceased had been given a packet of sweets. The fact of other
> > children being similarly ill pointed to the sweets as being the possible
> > cause of such illness. The sanitary inspector got some sweets from Mrs
> > ASHTON and also some from the shop where they had been purchased and
> > were forwarded to be analysed.
> > (This was quite a long report, so I shall summarise - Ed) The analysis
> > not reveal the sweets to be poisoned. Dr PARK carried out a post mortem
> > found the child's stomach was inflamed. It was questioned whether it was
> > wise for Dr PARK to carry out the examination since he was also the
> > who had attended the child, but the coroner said this was the custom.
> > child's condition was a common one and the cause could not be proved.
> > coroner was also satisfied that both the doctor and the child's family
> > done all they could for her. The jury returned a verdict of death from
> > natural causes.
> > * * *
> > THE WILD BIRDS PROTECTION ACT
> > Prosecution at Ashton - A Peep into the Lark Trade
> > At the Ashton Borough Police Court on Monday, Edward TOWNLEY, bird
> > 25 Bow-street, was summoned under the Wild Birds Protection Act for
> > in his possession on 11th April 20 larks recently caught. He pleaded not
> > guilty - Inspector POCOCK, RSPCA, said the case was of a somewhat
> > nature, and was taken under the Wild Birds Protection Act 1880. Under an
> > of the following year, certain exemptions were made, but in no case did
> > exemption apply to birds alive. It only applied to birds which had
> > been killed.
> > The Act of 1881 was the outcome of a little difficulty which arose
> > birds caught in France or in other countries came within the meaning of
> > Act. Some justices held that they did, and others that they didn't, and
> > order that there might be no doubt, an amendment was passed to the
> > Act to this effect - "No person between 1st March and 1st of August,
> > the passing of this Act, shall knowingly, wilfully shoot, trap or
> > any wild bird, or shall expose or offer for sale, or shall have in his
> > control or possession on 15th March, any wild bird recently seized or
> > shall on conviction be liable to a penalty."
> > The defendant was charged with having in his possession after the 15th
> > twenty larks which had been recently caught. On the day in question, the
> > 11th April, in company with Sergeant TOLSON, in consequence of a number
> > complaints received, he went to the defendant's shop, which was on the
> > opposite side of the Market Ground. He asked defendant if he had any
> > larks for sale. He replied: "Yes, I have a great lot if you want them,"
> > pointed out twenty in the shop, adding: "I have a lot more upstairs, and
> > some more in the back room."
> > He asked to be allowed to look at them, and he was permitted to do so.
> > saw the larks were in cages, and that they had been recently caught was
> > evident from their activity in flying about the cages. A lark that had
> > in captivity any length of time did not do so. He asked defendant where
> > had got them from. He replied: "I don't see why I should tell you my
> > business." He refused at first, but afterwards said: "Three of us
> > them from Ludlow," and afterwards said: "I did not buy them, they were
> > brought from Ludlow within the last fortnight in February, and I went to
> > Manchester to receive my share of them." He subsequently said he got
> > Salford.
> > He asked defendant if he would show him any invoice from the place he
> > purchased the larks, and he replied in the negative. Mrs TOWNLEY then
> > and said "Larks are very dear just now. We have to give 14s a dozen for
> > them. Defendant also remarked that he got birds from all over the
> > but he refused to give any names.
> > (Again, quite a lengthy report, but basically, the RSPCA was trying to
> > that the birds were caught out of season. "At the close of the case, the
> > Bench expressed their opinion that there was a doubt in it and gave
> > defendant the benefit of it." What people did with the larks is
> > from the following separate item in this week's paper:)
> > LARK SINGING - The Easter lark singing contest was concluded at the
> > Mr John WARBURTON, the Sportsman Inn, Hall-street, on Saturday. There
> > entry of 44 members. The birds were hung half an hour and they sang very
> > well. The timers were Messrs W RIDER, REDDISH and J WILLIAMS of Gorton.
> > £23 were awarded in prizes, which took the form of eight-day clocks,
> > blankets, crockery ware, shawls, hearthrugs, bed quilts, kettles, sheets
> > other useful articles.
> > The "sing" was a great success and among the winners were: J WARBURTON
> > Gorton, T KAY of Gorton, F CRABTREE of Denton, R ANDERSON of Ashton, J
> > WILLIAMS of Gorton, G HARRISON of Dukinfield, W ARTINGSTALL of Reddish,
> > SIDEBOTTOM of Reddish, S REDFERN of Gorton, W BIRCH of Reddish, R
> > Droylsden and W HYDE of Denton
> > * * *
> > Part Two follows
This sounds very much like a "part" directory I also have in my possession.
It was found by an elderly neighbour some ten years ago and knowing of my
interest in local and family history the gentleman gave Grodon a copy for
I only managed to track the date down to between 1911 and 1915 by the
whereabouts of either relatives or people that I knew of.
For instance my grandfather Clifford Birtwisle is listed at 47 Gladstone
Street Castle and he was living at Huxley Street by 1915.
Another one was my great grandmother Mrs. Birtwisle living at 18 Alan
Street and she likewise was later William Street in 1916.
As I said unfortunately thee were several pages missing.
To check out whether it is the same one, could you tell me if page 301 has
Thomas Garnett of the Vine Hotel and below James A Gorst motor launch
I have found it a great reference for many years, but it was such a shame
that it is incomplete.
I have pages 296,297,298,299,300,301,304,
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hanson" <john.e.hanson(a)btinternet.com>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 3:51 PM
Subject: [CHS] NORTHWICH 1915 Street Directory
> I have in my possession a 1915 "Street Directory" of Northwich and some of
its environs. I was never quite sure if it was covered by the 100 year rule,
but our acting "List Owner", Sherry, has been able to advise me that it is
O.K. to offer Look-ups to the list.
> I WILL NEED ....Family SURNAME and name of STREET/RD, The index only
supplies the head of the household (occupation if place of business) and
house number of the property. I cannot offer searches for names only, sorry!
> Please bear in mind this advice from Sherry.........
> Not everyone was on to start with (despite what it
> claimed). In addition information for street directories and Electoral
> Registers is collected the year prior to the date shown, so 1915 was
> information from 1914. Whilst ERs *qualifying date* is October for the
> following year, I think street and trade directories are earlier so if the
> war had not started when they collected the 1914 information it would
> in 1915 edition. Similarly, if you die after October you will still apear
> the following year's electoral register. They are useful for finding
> dates of when people were living at an address, helps narrow GRO Index
> searches and so on. Some war era ERs have an absent voter section at the
> of each ward/polling district. This shows who should have been there but
> away fighting. 1919/1920 are classics for this and 1946.
> ==== CHESHIRE Mailing List ====
> InfoQuest - the information site for Cheshire & the Wirral:
I have in my possession a 1915 "Street Directory" of Northwich and some of its environs. I was never quite sure if it was covered by the 100 year rule, but our acting "List Owner", Sherry, has been able to advise me that it is O.K. to offer Look-ups to the list.
I WILL NEED ....Family SURNAME and name of STREET/RD, The index only supplies the head of the household (occupation if place of business) and house number of the property. I cannot offer searches for names only, sorry!
Please bear in mind this advice from Sherry.........
Not everyone was on to start with (despite what it
claimed). In addition information for street directories and Electoral
Registers is collected the year prior to the date shown, so 1915 was
information from 1914. Whilst ERs *qualifying date* is October for the
following year, I think street and trade directories are earlier so if the
war had not started when they collected the 1914 information it would appear
in 1915 edition. Similarly, if you die after October you will still apear in
the following year's electoral register. They are useful for finding APPROX.
dates of when people were living at an address, helps narrow GRO Index
searches and so on. Some war era ERs have an absent voter section at the end
of each ward/polling district. This shows who should have been there but was
away fighting. 1919/1920 are classics for this and 1946.
The message <20010430081403.IGPA1474730.mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@default>
from "Brett Payne" <bpayne(a)xtra.co.nz> contains these words:
> I wonder if there is some kind list member who has access to either
directories or the electoral registers for Chester during the period
1914 to 1918 who would be able to look up a specific address for me please?
Because of World War I, no electoral registers were compiled for the
years 1915 to 1918 inclusive, I'm afraid. But there might be council
rate books at the Cheshire Record Office which would tell you the
name of the householder in each property.
Hope this helps,
The Family History Society of Cheshire
What a great thing this List is, not to mention the Listers who make it
possible. After sending a message yesterday afternoon (New Zealand time) re
a needed marriage certificate I received 2 replies within a couple of hours
and picked up 9 more this morning. Amazing. This is just to say thanks to
one and all. I will reply to each individually but just wanted to place on
record my appreciation.
Because of something in one of the messages I must insist I was casting no
aspersion on the Cheshire BMD site by saying I couldn't find the
certificate on that. Far from it. In fact, having had a little to do with a
similar scheme with a local genealogical society here - transcribing
births, marriages and deaths, I mean - I have some idea of how tremendous
is the time and effort being put into Cheshire BMD. I think it is a
brilliant site and becoming ever more so.
Researching BLOWER (BLOOR), CLAYTON, CROSS, RATHBONE,VERDIN. All mainly
Purely for information. In case people live down there or are planning a
trip. Message forwarded from England and Wales Listowner's List. I have not
checked the content but take on trust it's accuracy.
> Dear All
> Elizabeth Silverthorne, archivist, London Borough of Bromley has asked me
> notify colleagues that the Local Studies Library and Archives, Central
> Library, Bromley, will be closed for reorganisation Tuesday 8 May to
> Saturday 12 May inclusive.
> The Department will reopen to the public Monday on 14 May.
> Martin Taylor
> senior assistant archivist
> Hackney Archives Department
I think you will have trouble with your research in this period, because
unfortunately there were no electoral registers produced during the First
World War. This suspension of the electoral register also happened again
during the 2nd World War.
If my memory serves me correctly they finish in October 1914 (possibly May
1915) and don't start again until October 1918.
I am pretty sure I am right in saying that there were no electoral registers
taken during either World War. I think 1913 and 1919 are the only ones
available, similarly 1939 and 1946? Someone might be able to confirm this,
but I know at Salford Library there are none during WW1.
Sherry Landa (in Salford, Lancs)
BARTON, Congleton, c1780-1860
BRERETON, Congleton, c1800-1900
EATON, Sandbach, c1770-1830
GALLIMORE, Congleton, c1830
HOME, Sandbach, c1780-1800
POOLE, Congleton/Biddulph (STS) c1800-1865
----- Original Message -----
From: Brett Payne <bpayne(a)xtra.co.nz>
Sent: 30 April 2001 09:14
Subject: [CHS] Chester: Directory or Electoral Register 1914-1918 Look-up
> I wonder if there is some kind list member who has access to either
directories or the electoral registers for Chester during the period 1914 to
1918 who would be able to look up a specific address for me please?
> My grandfather Charles Lesley Lionel PAYNE (1892-1975) married his first
wife Constance May HOGG (1889-1918) at St Paul Boughton, Chester on 30 Nov
1917. She had been living at Morden Villa, Dee Banks, Chester from at least
May 1916, and continued to receive a portion of my grandfather's pay at this
address until shortly before her death on 20 October 1918. The latter event
took place at her parents-in-law's house at Almond Street, Derby, while my
father was on convalescence leave after have been shot during the Battle of
Arras - he was a machine gunner.
> I am very interested in the name of the occupants/owners of this house
during the period 1912 to 1914. I believe it may have been Con's parents or
maternal grandparents, but it could just as easily have been a place where
she was"in service". If anyone is able to do a look-up, I would be very
grateful for the assistance. In return, I would be happy to try and assist
with any South Derbyshire research, for an area for which I have quite a few
> Thank you very much.
> Regards and best wishes,
> Brett Payne
> Tauranga, Bay of Plenty, New Zealand
> South Derbyshire Genealogical Resources
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I haven't read list mail yet, but need to correct something I said
yesterday. Northwich marriages fall in Central Cheshire Region (not CE
Macclesfield as I said yesterday).
The Register Office
Cheshire CW1 2LL
Sorry for any confusion.
Sherry Landa (in Salford, Lancs)
I know some listers are researching these uncommon names.
Found at St Johns Church, Chester - baptism.
Richard Arthur, son of Richard and Ellen TYRELL of City walls, Fitter
Emma & William TAPLEY to Thomas and Ann of Boughton, - gardener
and at Wrenbury, Cheshire - baptism
June 12th 1779
Ann Daughter of William(?) and Ann TAPLEY of Newhall