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The following was in the Nova Scotia List, and I thought it might be of
interest to other Listers, so am forwarding it on.
JOHNSON, DIGNUM, TOMLINSON, PEMBERTON, ACKERLEY,WILKINSON
|Subject: Gravestone Symbols
|The following gives you a guide to the symbolism of gravestone art back
|when it was a common thing. Today we seem to deal in markers which
|record the scantest of information.
|Anchors & Ships = Seafaring Profession
|Arches = Victory
|Arrows = Mortality
|Bouquets = Condolences, Grief
|Buds = Renewal of Life
|Bugles = Resurrection, Military
|Candle,snuffed = Time, Mortality
|Coffin = Mortality
|Crossed Swords = High ranking military person
|Darts = Mortality
|Doves = The Soul, Purity
|Father Time = Mortality, Grim Reaper
|Flowers = Brevity of early existence, Sorrow
|Flying Birds = Flight of the soul
|Fruits = Eternal Plenty
|Garlands = Victory in Death
|Imps = Mortality
|Hand of God chopping = Sudden Death
|Handshake = Farewell to earthly existence
|Hearts = The soul in bliss, Love of Christ
|Horns = The Resurrection
|Hourglass = Swiftness of Time
|Lambs = Innocence
|Picks & Shovels = Mortality
|Portals = Passageway to the eternal journey
|Roses = Brevity of earthly existence
|Sheaves of Wheat = Time, The divine harvest
|Shells = The pilgrimage of life
|Suns = The resurrection
|Thistles = Remembrance
|Tombs = Mortality
|Trees = Life
|Trumpeters = Life
|Willows = Earthly Sorrow
|Winged death`s Head = Mortality
|Winged effigies = The flight of the soul
If anyone has the 1851surname index for Stockport area, would it
possible to look up a family TYM which includes and Elizabeth Tym
aged about 13.
Thank you for any information
Reseaching: HASELHURST (Stockport) CROOK (possible, Stalybridge)
This is for those who have asked me to look up their watermen
ancestors. I've got the same information for everyone, so I'll post it
The Weaver Navigation Records are quite extensive. I went to the Record
Office on Friday to look at them for the first time, and am just about
coming to terms with the Weaver Navigation index !
But I did find out that in 1778, my ancestor Thomas Atherton was Captain
of the Flat "Doe" and his brother John was Captain of the "Mary", both
owned by Mr Wood.
Cargoes included Butter, Sugar, "Goods" Bales of Cloth, Clay, Coals,
Wheat & Beans, 1 pipe of wine, 2 barrels of Porter, Balks of timber for
masts, & Burr Stones whatever they are.
This was from the Draft Winsford Tonnage Book for that period, which
gives plenty of information, and gives an idea of what might be
Some of the Log Books give names of Captains, some just of Owners. Most
of the records of salt cargoes carried from Winsford do have names of
Captains, but don't have details of the return cargoes which are the
interesting ones. And none of the records seem to list crew - and these
men would still be watermen.
There is also a list of unemployed men which I haven't looked at yet. I
am still in the 1780s and can only afford one morning visit a week, so
it could be some time before I get any results for you.
.....Elizabeth in Chester
Working on John Leason of Derby who settled in Cheshire.Had the following
sons:Edward,Herbert,John,& Joseph. John was born:1812 and last found living
in Odd Rode,Ches.1861 census.Any help would be appreciated.He was a boatman.
In a message dated 23/07/99 08:20:02 GMT Daylight Time,
<< Message: #11
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:17:09 -0400
Subject: [CHESHIRE-L] Researching Palin Families
My cousin started the ball rolling and has amassed a fair bit of
information. Now I am trying to fill in the gaps. (Please note that I do
have all the children's names for the following generations)
1. Thomas Palin 1620-1681 In Aldford. He married 3X and had 6 children.
2. John Palin b 1655 in Aldford died 1707 in Aldford married Elizabeth ?
and had 5 children
3. Thomas Palin b 1682/3 in Aldford died 1727/8 married Ann Wickstead and
had 8 children. Also owned property in Farndon.
4. Thomas Palin b 1714 in Aldford died 1800, married Elizabeth Smythe
(possible last name of Bailey) and had 12 children.
5. John Palin b 1749 in Aldford died 1833 in 1833, married twice, known to
have lived in LLay, Gresford, and Stapleford had 8 children.
6. William Palin b 1794 died 1868? married Mary Dickenson and had 9
7. Arnold Palin b 1842 died 1917 married Lydia Davis and had 16 children.
Known to have lived at Stapleford Hall then moved to Gloucester.
I am not 100% sure but I believe with all the children from each generation,
that they had moved throughout the Cheshire area. I would love to fill in
these gaps, so any Palin information would be appreciated!
My Mother in Law Barbara Thomason had an Aunty Elizabeth who married a
Alfred Palin they lived at Backford near Chester.Is your cousin by any chance
dpalin(a)m5.sprynet.com (Doug Palin )
I have the film covering the above for the next couple of weeks, if anyone would like a look-up or photocopy of a relative known to have been christened during this time, please let me know asap and I'll see what I can do for you.
St John's Church records are on the IGI by the look of things so this should make things easier for some people if they are not sure. The batch number is C007135.
Adelaide, Sth Australia
I am reposting my names in the hope they will mean something to someone.
James BATEMAN , married to Caroline Mary WETTENHALL,
Children. Arthur BATEMAN
Walter Harold BATEMAN
They came to Canada in 1889 and settled in Saskatchewan and then Manitoba.
Thanks Coralynn in BC Canada
John MADDOCK m Esther
-Joseph 1753 m Elizabeth WORRAL 10 Jan 1775
-Samuel 1778 Whole family born Frodsham, Cheshire
-Richard 1785 m Mary GRESTY? 2 Feb 1807 Weaverham, Cheshire
-Thomas Smith 1812
Thomas Smith MADDOCK wife Ann, son Thos Smith, left Landsend aboard the 'Sir
Charles Forbes' 1 May 1842, arrived Nelson, New Zealand 22 Aug.
The family home was 'Bank House' in Frodsham, Church was St Lawrence CofE.
Does anyone have information on this family or know of the residence.
Any help appreciated.
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Hi everyone. This is my first posting to your list and I am looking for information on my ggggrandmother in-law Catherine Mc Nally. An 1871 Surrey Census lists her birth place as Stockport Cheshire. She would have been born around 1817 and married William Willis around 1840. They had at least 4 children (probably more going by the large gaps in the approx. birth years I have) at Mortlake Surrey England. I would love any info on her. I do not know who either of her parents were or who siblings were.
Willis, Winter and McNally
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I have a similar situation in 1851. In my Adams family, 2 sisters-in-law
lived with John and their names appear as Russell after the husband and
wife, but then the Adams child is put as ditto to the Russell names.
I also have someone I knew was still alive in 1881 but couldn't be found
until I got a death certificate and looked up the actual address. There he
was but as Samuel, instead of Daniel. Age, occupation, wife etc. correct.
I'm sure many more mistakes occurred.
>Has anyone come across a similar problem to this in census details.
>I have looked at the 1841 cenus fiche for Bruen Stapleford three times
>convinced that the VERNON family I am searching for should be there. On the
>last desperate occasion I found a family of six who all had the correct
>given names and were the correct ages (allowing for the rounding up/down
>rule). The father's occupation appears to be correct which I have
>In the 1851,1861 and 1871 data the birthplace of the children was given as
>Bruen Stapleford (between 1831 and 1840)
>The problem I have is that the surname is given as DOD. (It is clearly
>different from dto or ditto).The Parents could not sign their names at the
>time they were married (1830) but I found that one of the witnesses was a
>Samuel Dod (who also lived in Bruen Stapleford).
>Am I justified in thinking this is my VERNON family. Is it a mistake or a
>deliberate attempt to falsify the data.
>looking for support
>VERNON, Bruen Stapleford, Clotton Hoofield (and Environs).
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I am wondering about the size of Macclesfield in 1835, also churches. I would like to try and find my gggfather's birth. I have from two census 1891/1881 that he was born in Macclesfield approximately in 1835. Could anyone suggest the best way for me to check this out. I have been unable to find him in any early census to this date.
I have been unable to locate his marriage although I know he was married sometime before 1862. His wife was born in Belper (again the census info). Their first child born in Ardwick, then the rest of the the children in Stockport. So you can see my dilema in trying to pin him down, I was beginning to think he was a gypsy, but no, he was a Bootmaker/Shoemaker Journeyman - is there a way I could track him down this way.
Thanks in advance
Adelaide, Sth Australia
Hello to all, I am looking for info on my mother's family she is from Crewe
in England. She left when she was 18 and came to the USA. Here she has made
her home but is very interested in some of her family tree info. She has
stayed in touch with only a few of her family. They have offered very little
help. The names I am working on are- Sidney James Singleton HILL who married
Minnie RILEY. They had the following children--Minnie, Roland, Harold,
Dorothy, George, Marjorie(mom), Sidney. Any info on this family would help .
You can send a message here or my
e-mail address of...(LMattin206(a)aol.com).....
Regards, Lorraine Mattingly, USA
I have a death record of Thomas BIRTLES 25.2.1851 age 69 years at THE
MARSH per Astbury Parish Register but have not been able to find his
wife Ann/Nell nee TAYLOR [dead between 1844-56].
If anyone can help locate Ann or any other BIRTLES' at THE MARSH it
would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you in advance
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Date: Friday, 30 July 1999 19:20
Subject: CHESHIRE-D Digest V99 #337
I'm a new subscriber researching a gggrandfather, THOMAS SAVAGE, born about
1821/22 in the Liverpool/Cheshire area.
On a census in Canada he is listed as an English Ship's Rigger. He first
appears in Canadian records when he married in 1854 in New Brunswick, where
he obtained work in the building of sailing barques, a thriving industry at
Family lore suggests that his father may have been a ship's captain or
I couldn't identify his family on the 1851 Liverpool census. Has the 1841
census been indexed? How is it accessed?
Many thanks for suggestions.
Has anyone out there got interests in Connor, Ludden or
O,Connor? probably from the Castlebar or
Westport area. My GG Grandparents were John Connor/O'Connor & Bridget
(nee Ludden) who came to England in the 1840s and lived in Chester,
Carlisle and finally settled in Jarrow Co Durham.
Kindest regards Terry O'Connor
My name is Pamela ( kjansen(a)ix.netcom.com )
I am interested in finding any information on the BROUGHTON and
families of Chester, Hoole, Rucorn and surroundin areas.
My grandfather was Geo. Ernest Coates BROUGHTON born in Chester,
Cheshire. Oct. 15, 1898. His parents were Frank BROUGHTON b-June 29,
1876 ,Canal Bank, RUNCORN, Cheshire. He married Carrie Adeline GROSSMITH
May 3, 1898 in HOOLE. I do not know if these families were from here
before that time, or if there might be some info still to be gleaned
about them. There are stories that the BROUGHTON family may have
originally been from LANCS. And that the GROSSMITH family may have been
from SUSSEX or OXON. with ties to the Railways. Also that the Broughtons
may be connected with the Coats family of Yorkshire ???????/
Please help if you are able. I thank you all in advance.Pamela, in
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I would like to offer reciprocal research for anyone who lives in or near to CHESTER, who is familiar with the Cheshire RO and has some spare time.( Not much to ask ! )
In return I will be happy to assist all I can in the London archives / Family Records Centre and local records in Derby.
Will anyone interested please contact me at pdjgrahl(a)tesco.net
I am interested in LOVATT, BILLINGTON, STEELE, PRICE and more in Cheshire.
Other interests GRAHL, LAVERSUCH, HORTON, KIERAN.
Dave Grahl (BA)
Has anyone come across a similar problem to this in census details.
I have looked at the 1841 cenus fiche for Bruen Stapleford three times
convinced that the VERNON family I am searching for should be there. On the
last desperate occasion I found a family of six who all had the correct
given names and were the correct ages (allowing for the rounding up/down
rule). The father's occupation appears to be correct which I have deciphered
In the 1851,1861 and 1871 data the birthplace of the children was given as
Bruen Stapleford (between 1831 and 1840)
The problem I have is that the surname is given as DOD. (It is clearly
different from dto or ditto).The Parents could not sign their names at the
time they were married (1830) but I found that one of the witnesses was a
Samuel Dod (who also lived in Bruen Stapleford).
Am I justified in thinking this is my VERNON family. Is it a mistake or a
deliberate attempt to falsify the data.
looking for support
VERNON, Bruen Stapleford, Clotton Hoofield (and Environs).