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In the past I have made contact with Belle Chenault regarding my
"Texas/Oklahoma Chenault" line. I would appreciate knowing "who" to send my
family line to be included in the new "red 2003-4 book".
Also, am interested in purchase of the "next red book", if there is a list I
would appreciated being on that vip list.
Helen Myers
McAllen, Texas
CHENEAU as "gargoyle" would be WAY better than gutter! :-)
The webpage at
http://www.page-turnbull.com/organization/features/issues/roof/case1.html
features a discussion of the restoration of the California State Building in
San Francisco; and under the section headed "ROOFING ISSUES," is a *picture*
of a "cheneau" with the following text:
"The roof of the building, like others in San Francisco's Civic Center,
originally consisted of a hipped slate tile roof, capped with copper trim at
the ridge and hips, a copper gutter and ornamental terra cotta cheneau
running the length of the building front and sides. At the start of the
rehabilitation project, the slate tile roof was gone, replaced with asbestos
shingles in the 1950s, the copper gutter had failed and was covered over
with several layers of caulking, and the terra cotta cheneau was in a state
of severe deterioration."
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Helen,
I sent a copy of your message on to the new Chenault Family Historian, Sue Chenault. Hopefully she will contact you regarding the inclusion of your family line in the upcoming revision of the Red Book.
Regards, Chris Shinall
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Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 1:34 PM
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In the past I have made contact with Belle Chenault regarding my
"Texas/Oklahoma Chenault" line. I would appreciate knowing "who" to send my
family line to be included in the new "red 2003-4 book".
Also, am interested in purchase of the "next red book", if there is a list I
would appreciated being on that vip list.
Helen Myers
McAllen, Texas
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Surnames: BELL, BRYAN, CHENNAULT, GILBERT, LEE
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The only CHENNAULT/LEE connection I know of is through Claire Lee CHENNAULT's mother Jessie Beatrice LEE (1876-1901). Her parents were William Wallace LEE (1836-1911) & Rashel Josephine GILBERT (1847-1904). William Wallace LEE's parents were Henry Bryan LEE (1804-1891) and Margaret B. LEE (1813-1883). I don't have a firm connection between those two and the Virginia LEE family (the LEE family that Robert E. LEE descends from), though. The LEE ancestors of Claire CHENNAULT end with Henry Bryan LEE's parents believed to be Henry LEE & Letitia BRYAN and with Margaret B. LEE's grandparents believed to be John LEE & Margaret BELL.
Bren
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Hi, my name Christy Sims, born to Sandra Sue Chenault.I have been told that Claire was a distant cousin. My grandfather was Ophie Preston Chenault b. 1909. I'm afraid that I don't know much more than this except, there was an arguement of some sort 3 or 4 generations ago and that's when my line came to texas to escape the scandal. If you have more info. on my grandpa please contact me, Iknow so little and all grandparents were deceased before I was born.
Thanks,
Christy
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pleas tell me you are referring to Claire Chennault of the flying tigers. We are distant cousins to that line, but we spell ours Chenault. My grandfather's name was Ophie Preston Chenault and I'm trying desperately to find info. on them for my mom. Sandra Sue Chenault Meek. Please e-mail me. ancsims2u(a)yahoo.com
Christy
That sounds reasonable :o) Of course, better a gutter or water spout than what I was wondering -- In English another water spout is a tornado-type storm that forms over water. Sometimes you just can't translate verbatim (like one time someone tried to translate "hot dog" verbatim and wound up asking for a dog in heat). LOL
Bren
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From: Elaine Schenot
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:43 AM
To: CHENAULT-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CHENAULT] RE: "cheneau" in French/English dictionary
Regarding the definition of the word "cheneau," in Chris Shinall's
French/English dictionary, as "a water spout" -- a SCHENOT relative who is
fluent in French once mentioned that our surname translated to "gutter"! (I
like "water spout" better.)
Elaine Schenot
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Regarding the definition of the word "cheneau," in Chris Shinall's
French/English dictionary, as "a water spout" -- a SCHENOT relative who is
fluent in French once mentioned that our surname translated to "gutter"! (I
like "water spout" better.)
Elaine Schenot
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The name Cheneau defined as "water spout" in the "Bantam New College French & English Dictionary . . . if carried one step further and applied to a water spout on a Cathedral, then would the surname by extension mean "gargoyle"? . . . (I say this with tongue in cheek . . . ) Chris Shinall
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Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:43 AM
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Subject: [CHENAULT] RE: "cheneau" in French/English dictionary
Regarding the definition of the word "cheneau," in Chris Shinall's
French/English dictionary, as "a water spout" -- a SCHENOT relative who is
fluent in French once mentioned that our surname translated to "gutter"! (I
like "water spout" better.)
Elaine Schenot
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Hi David,
This is the information that I have but I do not know if it is correct. I actually sent my information to the Charles William Chernault in Florida. I never heard from him but believe he is a elderly man.
W. Beverly Chenault (twin to Lev) Son: William Walker Chenault who married (a) Elizabeth Marsh Chernault in 1887 (b) Virginia Alice Chenault in 1892 Children: (1) George W. Chernault, Sr (1883-1974) his children are George W. Chernault, Jr. who married a Margorie Ayers and Charles William Chernault who lives in Florida (2) Elizabeth (3) Wiley (4) William (5) John (6) Edward.
I believe him to be my John Henry Chenault's brother but this is all that I have. My family now spell their name Chernault but I keep the spelling as I find it (that is why it is different in several places) Fran
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What were the names of the children of W. Beverly Chenault, and where did they
live? Which one was the father of the "George W. Chenault Sr." of Roanoke
that you mention in your letter? The reason I ask is because I have an
ancestor, identified as "WIlliam B. Chenault" in his estate records, who was
born in 1792 in Virginia and had a grandson named Beverly. William B.
Chenault is found in records of Cumberland Co. VA, which is adjacent to
Buckingham.
- David Boucher
On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 08:59:09 -0700 Sharyn Hay <storkrn(a)msn.com> wrote:
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> Don't stop.......trying to connect to the Buckingham Chenaults. I have been
reading with excitement the information regarding the
Chenaults in the Buckingham/Cumberland area.
>
> My gg-grandfather was John Henry Chenault born 1814 (Buckingham?) and died
4-26-1876 in Buckingham. His death certificate does
not list his parents names and was signed only by his son Peter Henry Chenault
(my g-grandfather).
>
> In the last Chenault book, it was written that in a letter to Dr. Frank L.
Chenault from a George W. Chernault, Sr of Roanoke, VA
that John Henry's siblings were W. Beverly (Twin to Lev), Lev Chenault (twin
to Beverly) and a Benjamin. According to this
information, George W. Chernault, Sr. was the grandson of W. Beverly Chenault.
For 2 years I have tried unsuccessfully to share
information with the family of this George W. Chernault, Sr. with no response.
>
> Chris, I noticed on the 1810 Buckingham Census, there are 2 John Chenaults;
one appearing to be younger than 45 and one older;
each with families. The John you spoke of leaving his family, marrying twice,
and moving to George. Could this be the
g-grandparent of my John Henry?
>
> Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. Fran Harris Hill
>
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Good Morning:
My beloved wife, now deceased, was the grandaughter of Maggie Eugina Chenault
who married Robert Lee Bottoms in Richmond, VA. By chance does anyone out
there have any information on this Chenault Family? Anything that can be
related to me will be greatly appreciated.
Bernie in Virginia
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> Don't stop.......trying to connect to the Buckingham Chenaults. I have been reading with excitement the information regarding the
Chenaults in the Buckingham/Cumberland area.
>
> My gg-grandfather was John Henry Chenault born 1814 (Buckingham?) and died 4-26-1876 in Buckingham. His death certificate does
not list his parents names and was signed only by his son Peter Henry Chenault (my g-grandfather).
>
> In the last Chenault book, it was written that in a letter to Dr. Frank L. Chenault from a George W. Chernault, Sr of Roanoke, VA
that John Henry's siblings were W. Beverly (Twin to Lev), Lev Chenault (twin to Beverly) and a Benjamin. According to this
information, George W. Chernault, Sr. was the grandson of W. Beverly Chenault. For 2 years I have tried unsuccessfully to share
information with the family of this George W. Chernault, Sr. with no response.
>
> Chris, I noticed on the 1810 Buckingham Census, there are 2 John Chenaults; one appearing to be younger than 45 and one older;
each with families. The John you spoke of leaving his family, marrying twice, and moving to George. Could this be the
g-grandparent of my John Henry?
>
> Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. Fran Harris Hill
>
>
>
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Sharyn,
OK, perhaps the bible record is not "primary proof" for, lets say the DAR, but considering Susan Chennault King's son recorded the info I consider it more than a clue for a "probable relationship". I have no need to "investigate further". Yes I am quite sure Susan's son recorded the info. He also wrote a civil war diary(Ihave a copy). The handwriting is identical in both the diary & the bible. This is certaintly good enough for my records. I have no desire to join any society or to write a book, I have been researching my family for 30+ years & I understand how to document my research. I will remember in the future not to use the word "proof".
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Hi Brenda,
I wanted to put this question to you, as you have far more expertise in the French language than I: In picking up my French/English dictionary, the word "cheneau" appears and is defined as "a water spout". Would you believe this to also be the source of the family surname? . . . or do you have other thoughts on the subject?
Chris Shinall
-----Original Message-----
From: Brenda Hébert [mailto:brenhebert@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 4:04 PM
To: CHENAULT-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CHENAULT] Thank you for your help!
I'm glad I could be of some assistance. I'm not as thoroughly versed in the CHENAULT history as Chris is, but French is my second-most fluent language, and I've always been interested in languages (I've studied Spanish, Russian and Hebrew, along with picking up a lot of German just from personal research and picking up phrases and words in other languages -- mostly "hello" "bye" "how are you?" and "well, thank you"). Oh, and with exposure to French and Spanish, I can usually deciipher Italian and Portuguese (written, anyways -- spoken is another thing LOL). I always see things in one language, though that reminds me of another language or culture. It's interesting how different people SEEM to be, but amazing at how similar we really are.
Bren
----- Original Message -----
From: Elaine Schenot
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:30 AM
To: CHENAULT-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CHENAULT] Thank you for your help!
My thanks to Brenda Hébert and Chris Shinall for their thoughtful and
thorough answers to my apparently not-so-dumb questions about pronouncing
the CHENAULT name and where it came from.
Perhaps this will open a door on our SCHENOT research. We can trace back to
the first-generation American, born in New York c. 1838, but we don't yet
know the names of his French-born parents. That his family came from Alsace
is a strong aspect of the oral tradition.
Our SCHENOT family, however, was originally Roman Catholic, which would make
them unlikely to be Huguenots (French Protestants), my husband tells me.
Chris, I will contact you directly with info on our SCHENOT line. I hope to
get something written up for you in the next couple of weeks.
Regards, Elaine W. Schenot
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Thanks for responding to my question about proving the relationship between
Reuben and the children attributed to him.. While this doesn't actually
prove my ancestor, William, is one of Reuben's sons it is another step in
that direction, since we believe that Susan was a sister of William's.. I
appreciaste your taking time to post the information contained in your Bible
record. If we all continue working together and sharing our findings we will
eventually be able to prove, or equally important, disprove some of the
errant information we all probably possess in our files. Thanks again for
sharing. Don Chenault
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> Don, You asked if anyone could prove the children of Reuben, I can prove
that Susan Chennault was the d/o Reuben & Elizabeth Chennault. Susan
married William Whitfield King. I have the King family bible with the info
recorded by their son William Henry King, my g/grandfather. The bible
record states that Wm. Whitfield King & Susan Chennault were married in
Madison Co., AL 9 May 1825. It also states, Susan Chennault, d/o Ruben &
Elizabeth Chennault was born in Madison Co., AL 12 Nov 1809.
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Don, You asked if anyone could prove the children of Reuben, I can prove that Susan Chennault was the d/o Reuben & Elizabeth Chennault. Susan married William Whitfield King. I have the King family bible with the info recorded by their son William Henry King, my g/grandfather. The bible record states that Wm. Whitfield King & Susan Chennault were married in Madison Co., AL 9 May 1825. It also states, Susan Chennault, d/o Ruben & Elizabeth Chennault was born in Madison Co., AL 12 Nov 1809.
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Unfortunately what you have is not a primary proof, but a secondary one,
at best. A family Bible entry is not "proof" of anything, just a clue to tell
you that this is a probable relationship that needs to be investigated in
more primary records. What is needed is any primary source document
such as a birth certificate, or other legal document made close to the
time of the event, that lists the child and names the parents. There are
several excellent articles on sourcing your materials in any of the major
genealogy journals.
Sharyn
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Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 2:20 PM
Subject: [CHENAULT] RE: CHENAULT-D Digest V02 #21
> Don, You asked if anyone could prove the children of Reuben, I can prove that Susan Chennault was the d/o Reuben & Elizabeth
Chennault. Susan married William Whitfield King. I have the King family bible with the info recorded by their son William Henry
King, my g/grandfather. The bible record states that Wm. Whitfield King & Susan Chennault were married in Madison Co., AL 9 May
1825. It also states, Susan Chennault, d/o Ruben & Elizabeth Chennault was born in Madison Co., AL 12 Nov 1809.
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I'm glad I could be of some assistance. I'm not as thoroughly versed in the CHENAULT history as Chris is, but French is my second-most fluent language, and I've always been interested in languages (I've studied Spanish, Russian and Hebrew, along with picking up a lot of German just from personal research and picking up phrases and words in other languages -- mostly "hello" "bye" "how are you?" and "well, thank you"). Oh, and with exposure to French and Spanish, I can usually decipher Italian and Portuguese (written, anyways -- spoken is another thing LOL). I always see things in one language, though that reminds me of another language or culture. It's interesting how different people SEEM to be, but amazing at how similar we really are.
Bren
----- Original Message -----
From: Elaine Schenot
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:30 AM
To: CHENAULT-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CHENAULT] Thank you for your help!
My thanks to Brenda Hébert and Chris Shinall for their thoughtful and
thorough answers to my apparently not-so-dumb questions about pronouncing
the CHENAULT name and where it came from.
Perhaps this will open a door on our SCHENOT research. We can trace back to
the first-generation American, born in New York c. 1838, but we don't yet
know the names of his French-born parents. That his family came from Alsace
is a strong aspect of the oral tradition.
Our SCHENOT family, however, was originally Roman Catholic, which would make
them unlikely to be Huguenots (French Protestants), my husband tells me.
Chris, I will contact you directly with info on our SCHENOT line. I hope to
get something written up for you in the next couple of weeks.
Regards, Elaine W. Schenot
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