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Author: ladyladon2008
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I know this is a old post but am hoping to hear back. I am also related to nancy ann cheek and trying to find out more about her and her life.
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Author: bunhun
Surnames: Cheek, Elrod
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Ten years may be to late, or maybe you have found your answers. My husband's great-grandmother is the Sally that is the subject, his grandmother was Ada Jane CHEEK. Sally married her 1st cousin James Bass/Baswell CHEEK. Her father was William Nelson CHEEK, and Jame's father was James R. CHEEK and Emmarilla ELROD.
I would love to hear from you.
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Silas CHEEK is my 4th gr-grandfather, via his daughter Delitha Cheek Clark Barker.
He died on 7/25/1849 in the 1849-1850 cholera epidemic in Monroe Co., IL. His age is given as 59, born in NC, on the 1850 Monroe Co., IL mortality schedule, but 60 on the New Design Cemetery index and his marker (now broken). Silas came to IL via NC>TN/KY**>MO>IL).
He mar. Mary “Polly” Knowlan/Nowlan/Nolin/etc., b. abt 1794 in NC, d. bef. 1860 in Monroe Co., IL. To date I’ve not found their mar. record.
Their male children are:
John Cheek*, b. 9/29/1809, TN (per 1850 IL census) or KY (per 1860 IL census)**. He died 4/7/1866, Monroe Co., IL. He mar. Martha Perdieu on 4/26/1837 in Sumner Co., TN.
Silas Thompson Cheek, b. 4/16/1826, TN (per 1850 IL census)**, died 8/24/1858, Monroe Co., IL, mar. Samantha E. Chelle, 1/26/1849, Monroe Co., IL.
Isaiah, b. 1830, Monroe Co., IL, d. 2/4/1870, Monroe Co., IL, mar. Susan Windes, 6/6/1850, Monroe Co., IL.
William H., b. 1832, Monroe Co., IL, d. 2/26/1867, Monroe Co., IL, mar. Rebecca Yates, 5/30/1854, Monroe Co., IL.
female children:
Jane, 1818, TN (per 1850 IL census) or KY (per 1860 IL census)**, mar. Sylvester Hilton.
Delitha, 1824, IL or KY**, mar. Isaac Clark (d. cholera epidemic) & Lewis Barker.
Rachel, 1829, MO, mar. George Fults.
All mar. in Monroe Co., IL.
*Suspicion: Is John Silas’ brother or son? Silas was abt. 19, Mary abt 15, when John was born. His next child, Jane, was not born until 1818. Deaths in between? First wife?
**
Records gives Silas’ place of birth as North Carolina. The birth places of his 4 older children on old records varies between TN, KY, IL. This gives the impression that he had moved from NC to TN to KY, before settling in IL, but this may not be so. Tennessee was formed out of NC: In 1789 North Carolina ceded its western land, the Tennessee county, to the Federal Government. Congress designated the area as the Territory of the United States, South of the River Ohio. On June 1, 1796, Congress approved the admission of Tennessee as the sixteenth state of the Union. Eldest son/brother, John Cheek, married Martha Perdieu in Sumner Co., TN in 1837. Sumner Co. TN is right on KY's southern border and part of it (north) was on the strip of land involved in an ongoing boundary dispute (erroneous Walker line). The Map Guide to the US, KY 1790, p. 122, Kentucky as Part of Virginia, states “The Kentucky-Tennessee boundary, intended to be 36 degree 30, was run too far north in 1779-1780 by Virginia surveyors. Kentucky finally accepted this erroneous Walker Line in early 1820, but significant parts of the boundary remained uncertain until a resurvey completed in 1859. Some settlers in the disputed strip were uncertain in which state they lived.” Thus, Silas could have been born, raised, married, had children in one place before moving north, and perhaps never lived in today's State of NC. This could also explain the naming of different places of birth for the same child on old records.
After 20+ years of research I’ve not been able to figure out who Silas’ parents are. I am looking for a direct male descendant for Y-DNA testing to see where we fit in. I’ve found several female descendants to date, but no male descendant, although I do have a lead in So. IL.
>From records I’ve seen I think Silas may be the brother of Randolph/Randall Cheek/Check/etc. (mar. Sally Knowlen).
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Janet Flynn
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Author: slpearson16
Surnames: Cheek
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There are quite a few Nancy Cheeks in the descendants of George Cheek & Leanna. I descend from Nancy Cheek, daughter of George Cheek and Leanna.
Adoption was a different matter back in those days. You just took them in and raised them as your own. If they wanted to, they took your name. Or they kept their own name. If they came as an infant, then they probably took their adoptive parents last name. There were no adoption agencies, no legal process out on the frontier. You just took them in and started raising them.
If you followed the links on that DNA project page, it would have taken you to a page that explained how that particular haplotype spread a little better. According to that page, although it is common in the Mediterranean, it is even more common in Northern Africa (which is also on the Mediterranean). The scientists think it first showed up in the area now called Somalia and then spread North through Africa, and then into the Middle East and on into the Northern Mediterranean regions, e.g., Greece & Spain, and thence to Europe.
The one thing that nobody seems to realize is that perhaps this particular haplotype crept in by a different route. George Cheek is on record as having built a slave house in Front Royal, VA, and his son, Page Cheek, was the largest slave owner in Dearborn County, Indiana when Indiana made slavery illegal and he released them. So we know there was some involvement with slavery for the early Cheeks. Sometimes relations between slave and owner, well, you get my drift.
So that particular haplotype could have gotten into the Cheek line over here in the U.S.
Is there any proof that this happened? None whatsoever. But it is a possibility. Just as it is possible that Leanna may have been a former slave, or may have been part African, who knows?
Right now I think this as a secondary, lesser hypothesis as marriages between whites and Indians, although frowned upon, were not frowned upon as badly as marriages between blacks and whites in early America, not until after the war of 1812 when the Native Americans fighting Americans for the British created some really bad blood between the two groups of people. Half-breeds got looked upon with contempt all too often by both sides -- the frontiers were actually easier places to live in that respect for them.
In this day and age, the situation has improved, but that depends entirely upon where you live. Some places in the Midwest and West haven't really changed much since then in that respect. Just a word of caution depending upon where you live. I learned the hard way.
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Author: slpearson16
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There are quite a few Nancy Cheeks in the descendants of George Cheek & Leanna. I descend from Nancy Cheek, daughter of George Cheek and Leanna.
Adoption was a different matter back in those days. You just took them in and raised them as your own. If they wanted to, they took your name. Or they kept their own name. If they came as an infant, then they probably took their adoptive parents last name. There were no adoption agencies, no legal process out on the frontier. You just took them in and started raising them.
If you followed the links on that DNA project page, it would have taken you to a page that explained how that particular haplotype spread a little better. According to that page, although it is common in the Mediterranean, it is even more common in Northern Africa (which is also on the Mediterranean). The scientists think it first showed up in the area now called Somalia and then spread North through Africa, and then into the Middle East and on into the Northern Mediterranean regions, e.g., Greece & Spain, and thence to Europe.
The one thing that nobody seems to realize is that perhaps this particular haplotype crept in by a different route. George Cheek is on record as having built a slave house in Front Royal, VA, and his son, Page Cheek, was the largest slave owner in Dearborn County, Indiana when Indiana made slavery illegal and he released them. So we know there was some involvement with slavery for the early Cheeks. Sometimes relations between slave and owner, well, you get my drift.
So that particular haplotype could have gotten into the Cheek line over here in the U.S.
Is there any proof that this happened? None whatsoever. But it is a possibility. Just as it is possible that Leanna may have been a former slave, or may have been part African, who knows?
Right now I think this as a secondary, lesser hypothesis as marriages between whites and Indians, although frowned upon, were not frowned upon as badly as marriages between blacks and whites in early America, not until after the war of 1812 when the Native Americans fighting Americans for the British created some really bad blood between the two groups of people. Half-breeds got looked upon with contempt all too often by both sides -- the frontiers were actually easier places to live in that respect for them.
In this day and age, the situation has improved, but that depends entirely upon where you live. Some places in the Midwest and West haven't really changed much since then in that respect. Just a word of caution depending upon where you live. I learned the hard way.
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Author: jaredjessiedunn
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Thank you for the information! It is very helpful. In the DNA study they said that the relatives of George Cheek had a gene that most likely originated in the Mediterranean. If his wife Leanna was Shawnee and George had darker skin and eyes then maybe that would account for the stories that he was Native American. Of course this is just speculation!
It is interesting that the Shawnee and the Pottawatomie were allies.
It seems that there are several Nancy Cheeks in my family line. Because George and Leannah Cheek had a daughter(possibly) named Nancy, and Francis Cheek also had a daughter named Nancy. This is strange because Nancy Cheek(records say Francis' daughter)had a daughter named Mary Buffington and she married Francis Cheeks other son William Vincent Cheek! That would mean Mary Buffington married her uncle? Confusing. The records must not be accurate and Nancy Cheek must be a different Cheek, or if she was adopted Native American then she would not have been blood related. Anyway, I don't know if in your research you have come accross this or not, or maybe I am completely missing some info. Thank you so much for your help and your answer to me. I really appreciate it.
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Author: slpearson16
Surnames: Cheek
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Francis Cheek served under Captain William Fields in Revolutionary War.
-- Eula Marie Holtze Brown, Parks Family History: Ancestors and Descendants of George Washington Parks, A Civil War Veteran and Adams County Nebraska Homesteader
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Author: slpearson16
Surnames: Indian, Native American, Cherokee
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One thing to be leery of when attempting to research possible Native American ancestry is the claim that they were Cherokee, especially if they did not originate in Cherokee territories. Claims of Cherokee ancestry outnumber claims of other Indian ancestry all out of proportion to the relative numbers of Cherokee compared to the other Indian nations.
Maps of various tribes territories can be misleading, as many of them incorporate hunting territories which were shared and/or overlapped with other tribes. The actual areas where they had towns, villages and settlements were much smaller. The areas with the villages and towns are where you would expect an ancestor to come from if they had that tribal affiliation.
There is also a story that, prior to the Indian removals (Trail of Tears, etc.) the governor of the then state of Virginia officially recognized the Cherokee nation as a sovereign nation within the borders of America. Although this did not set well with the Federal government, it took them a few years to invalidate it. As a result, anyone living south of the Cumberland River was Cherokee, regardless of being white, black or Native American. It was citizenship, not blood or ethnic group. The situation would be similar to me emigrating to China. I can become a citizen of China, i.e., "Chinese", but I could never be "Chinese", i.e., I could never be ethnically Chinese.
This kind of situation can easily get confused if it is not passed on that said person was a Cherokee citizen, not a Cherokee Indian.
Another thing to be aware of, is due to laws against mixed-race marriages being predominantly focused on marriage between blacks and whites, people of mixed black & white heritage would often claim to be Cherokee if their skin color and facial features allowed. The Cherokee claim let them marry, and also let them move around in white society better.
Also, Cherokee took slaves -- white, black, and of other Native American tribes. If they lived among the Cherokee for long enough these people sometimes claimed Cherokee blood. Please note this was true of other tribes than just the Cherokee. How extensive this practice was I could not tell you.
Yes, it has all been "jolly good fun" (not!) trying to track where these stories started in my Cheek line.
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Author: slpearson16
Surnames: Cheek, Buffington, Kiggins
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Here be the stories --
A great-great uncle of mine had written a letter in the 1980s to my grandfather stating that "George Cheek was a full-blooded Cherokee". We know now that it is extremely unlikely that George Cheek was Native American, at least the George Cheek of Front Royal, VA.
A Kay Lamb, one of the original researchers, if not the first for the Cheek line, and a descendant of Page Cheek (if I remember correctly), wrote to me that she had been told that Leah, wife of George Cheek, was Native American.
Another, I believe her name was Jan Huntley, wrote me that her grandmother told her that Leah was Cherokee.
There was one other Cheek descendant of our particular Cheeks who also had a story about Native American blood in their line. That was a long time ago and I don't remember who that was.
A third person, whose name I don't remember, who was doing research on his line in the same area where the Cheeks in question lived, posted (and I am unable to find this particular thread, unfortunately), recalled that his mother mentioned that there were two Cheek families in Dearborn County, Indiana that were part Indian.
As regards your particular line, a Barbara Poole posted this (and you may have already come across this), "Barbara Poole Looking for information on my 3ggrandmother Nancy Cheek who was born 10/20/1789, married John Buffington 9/18/1804 and died 12/9/1868. She was the daughter of Francis Cheek and Mary (Kiggins?) Nancy was born in Virginia. Family lore has it that Nancy Cheek was adopted and was a native American belonging to the Potawatomie tribe. If anyone out there is researching the Cheeks or Buffingtons, I would love to hear from you. Thanks, Barbara " -- http://genealogenie.net/vafreder/query.shtml
To make matters worse, there were three Francis Cheeks living in the same general area of Virginia at about the same time, and there is no complete certainty as to which one is which, and which had which of the three known wives, other than one of the Francis Cheeks apparently died childless in the war.
To be honest, that far back in time, unless someone has a paper bearing an eyewitness account that Leah was Native American, we are unlikely to prove it without a doubt one way or another. The one thing I can tell you is that it is highly unlikely that she was Cherokee. The Cherokee villages and towns were several hundred miles south, while known Shawnee villages were around 40 miles or so away from Front Royal.
The Potawatomie migrated through Indiana in the early 1800s after their defeat along with the Shawnee, whom they allied with in the War of 1812 siding with the British. This makes the story of your Nancy Cheek being Potawatomie much more likely.
The Shawnee also lived in Southern Indiana, including the Dearborn County area (they were migratory).
If we make the assumption that the Cheek line was Shawnee, then it would also be believable that they would adopt a Potawatomie child, as the two nations had been allies. After the events of 1812 and 1813, whites generally had a quite negative view of Native Americans.
The early history of the Cheek family prior to Dearborn County, Indiana, has been difficult to unravel with any certainty, although people have made some headway.
A side note -- the name "Cheek" is extremely rare as a Native American name. It is, for all intents and purposes, an English name. It is almost only found among Native Americans when there has been intermarriage between a Native American and a person of English descent bearing the Cheek name.
There are Cheek families with Cherokee blood, but they all originate in the Carolinas, Georgia, Tennessee area where Cherokee villages and towns were. Those Cheeks have no relation to our line. DNA testing confirms that in many of those cases --> http://www.moonzstuff.com/dna/index.html
Hope this helps. It probably doesn't, but I hope it does.
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My great great grandmother is Adah Letitia Cheek, daughter of John Francis Cheek, son of William Vincent Cheek, son of Francis Cheek, most likely son of George Cheek.
The reason I started researching Cheek family history is because of a story that has been passed down in our family, and since I've been researching, many other parts of the family. In our part of the family the story was that one of our grandmothers(great or great great Etc. no one really knows) was Native American and that she had been brought home by a General and given to his wife to raise. My grandmother had thought that the baby was Adah or her mother. She said that Adah looked very much like a Native American and that she had been going to different reservations asking for anyone named "Cheek or Sheek" but would not tell her children why.
Other stories I've read since I started researching is that Nancy Cheek was the baby and that she was Pottawatomie, or that someone else further in the family history was Cherokee. I am interested to see if you have found any information regarding this, or who the descendant was of George Cheek that you corresponded with. I have also found that the information regarding Nancy Cheek is very confusing!
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