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Author: cynthiacar
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I'm interested in whatever research you have about Randolph and Sarah that ties them back to the Laurens, SC area. I know Randolph was said to have stopped in Texas around 1848 to visit his brother Valentine "Felty" and then was rumored to disappear in the California gold rush. I've read speculation about Randolph Cheek and Sally Knowlin vs Randall Cheek and Sarah 'Sally' Noel. It does seem similar and even possible that there is a connection and that the names have morphed a bit. Do you have any family documents that give an insight into this Randolph Cheek? There are sooo many, it does get confusing. I'm hopeful that eventually the families will emerge and I can clear up the mystery to Valentine's brother, Randolph. Thanks, Cynthia
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Author: cynthiacar
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I've been wondering about the mysterious Ephraim for a few years now. I found Tolbert F. Cheek applying for land in Milam, McLennan Co, Texas in 1859 and 1860. I've been looking at Noah Cheek who applied for land in Milam, TX in 1849, and Sylvester Cheek who applied for land in Milam on the very same day. I've been trying to find their family connections. I read in Noah's obit that his father was Randall Cheek from Laurens, SC and that they moved to Lowndes, Ala when he was 17, then he went to Texas around 1840 and lived there until his death at age 35yrs, 10 mos, and 6 days in 1854. What brought Tolbert F. to Milam, TX? Family connections or a spirit for adventure? Anyone able to help me with these connections? Cynthia
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Author: trishgosnell05
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i have a burgess in my file....william martin cheek was his father and mother was priscilla ann sartain, this was his 2nd marriage of the 3 marriage...., looking all this up can be confusing,...if this helps let me know, i am the granddaughter of gladys cheek, gilbert e cheek, oliver p cheek, willis cheek, wm martin cheen, james cheek, richard cheek sr, john cheek, anthony cheek , most of these were in laurens south carolina....trish gosnell...cherokeegirlfl05@aol.com.....if you can share with me i would appreciate that.....
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Author: trishgosnell05
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i have a burgess in my file....william martin cheek was his father and mother was priscilla ann sartain, this was his 2nd marriage of the 3 marriage...., looking all this up can be confusing,...if this helps let me know, i am the granddaughter of gladys cheek, gilbert e cheek, oliver p cheek, willis cheek, wm martin cheen, james cheek, richard cheek sr, john cheek, anthony cheek , most of these were in laurens south carolina....trish gosnell...cherokeegirlfl05@aol.com.....if you can share with me i would appreciate that.....
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Author: pearsonscott2
Surnames: Cheek
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I should point out that the above hypothesis about a Port Royal, KY origin may only apply to the following Cheeks of Dearborn County --
Nicholas Cheek
Page Cheek
Tavner Cheek
Francis Cheek
George Cheek
Nancy Cheek
and possibly only
Nicholas, Page, Tavener and Nancy Cheek.
It possibly may not apply to any other Cheeks in that same area who may have quite possibly come from Front Royal, VA (as opposed to Port Royal, KY).
Scott
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Author: MisterCheek
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Hi Scott et al,
The Cheeks currently have a yDNA project under way. The results a available at the following addess. http://www.moonzstuff.com/dna/results.html
The Cheeks of Shelby County are members of Group II of the project. A descendant of the Front Royal, VA Cheeks is a member of the Unique Group. More male members of the Front Royal, VA Cheeks are required confirm or deny their relationship to Group I, Group II or the Unique Group of Cheeks. Has anyone talked the Cheeks who live in Dearborn County.
I have found Cheeks related to the Shelby County family living in Madison, Washington and Vigo Counties in Indiana.
Regards,
Terry Cheek
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Author: pearsonscott2
Surnames: Cheek, Green
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Sorry, I seem to be monopolizing things here.
Anyway, in response to an email from another person researching the Dearborn Cheek lines, I came across an interesting bit of history.
It seems that the state of Kentucky and the state of Virginia were one and the same state, named Virginia, up until about 1792, when the state of Kentucky came into being out of the state of Virginia.
This was well after the original Dearborn County Cheeks were born.
This means that they could say quite truthfully they were born in Virginia, because Kentucky did not exist when they were born. It was still part of Virginia.
First, does anyone have any original source or document linking the original Dearborn County Cheeks to the George Cheek of the Front Royal, VA area? I have yet to see any proof that the Dearborn County Cheeks come from that area.
My Nancy Cheek (m. Eli Green) who moved to Dearborn County and is sister of Nicholas, Tavner, et al, although born in Virginia, lived in Woodford County, Kentucky before moving to Indiana sometime about 1810. Meaning that she could have been born in Virginia, and lived in Kentucky without having to move anyplace because the state name changed around her.
If we assume that the Dearborn County Cheeks were born in a part of Virginia that became Kentucky, and, just for the sake of argument, that they were born in the area of Woodford County, KY and/or surrounding area, I find that
1) the Ohio River is much closer to Woodford County, KY and surrounding area than it is to the Front Royal, VA area, which matches with the reports that Nicholas Cheek and his brothers came to Dearborn County, IN by flatboat on the Ohio River.
2) That there is actually a PORT ROYAL, Kentucky, and which Front Royal could have been a misreading of Port Royal. And before 1792, it would have been called Port Royal, Virginia. So easy to make a mistake and think it was referring to Front Royal, VA.
3) Port Royal, Kentucky, in in Henry County, KY, which is not too far from Woodford County, KY, where my Nancy Cheek and her husband, Eli Green lived.
4) Henry County is adjacent to Shelby County, Ky, where a number of Cheeks with same and similar names, including Tavener as a first name (which is supposedly common as a last name, but quite uncommon as a given name).
5) Shelby County, Ky, is quite close to Woodford County, KY, where my Nancy Cheek and her husband lived. They are about 20 miles or so apart. So quite close.
So, what I am proposing is that the Dearborn County Cheeks did not come from the Front Royal, VA area, but in actuality came from the Shelby County, Henry County & Woodford County area of what is now Kentucky.
Unless someone can actually show me actual evidence that the Dearborn County Cheeks actually came from the Front Royal area of Virginia, I am thinking that they actually came from what is now PORT ROYAL, KENTUCKY (but was actually PORT ROYAL, Virginia back then).
And it is possible that we may be related to the Shelby County, KY, Cheeks.
And if anyone could point me to information about Port Royal, KY, and its history I would much appreciate it as I am having trouble find anything about it's history.
Scott
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Author: pearsonscott2
Surnames: Cheek, Chicks, Cheeksunkun, Calvin
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Well, the longer I poke around the more it seems the less I know.
I used to think that any early Native Americans, based on my limited reading and knowledge, even though they had an English education, would not be teaching whites because they would be concentrating on their own people.
I was wrong again. (BTW, the below is from the Mohican board here at ancestry, which were, if I understand correctly, one of the tribes predominant in Virginia, although the people mentioned in the post are apparently Delaware).
from
http://boards.ancestry.com/topics.ethnic.natam.nations.mohican.mohicannat...
"Jacob Cheeksunkun's grandson, John N. Chicks, married Hannah Calvin dau. of Bartholomew Calvin, son of Bartholomew Shauskuhkung Calvin (Wilted Grass), son of Stephen Calvin, son of Shawuskuhkung. Bartholomew S. Calvin served with Gen. Washington and had a school that was so respected many white families sent their children to it. He was also instrumental in building peaceful relations between his Delaware people and the state of Delaware. In the book, "The Calvin Families" by Claude W. Calvin they are written about on pages 54-56 "Delaware Indians Who Adopted the Calvin Names"."
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Author: pearsonscott2
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I'd need to know more about her and her ancestors before I could answer that.
Scott
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Author: pearsonscott2
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Maybe I spoke too soon about limiting the possibilities of Cherokee blood in the Cheek line.
Up until sometime after 1805, some Kentucky counties, and most of Tennessee were not part of the United States, but a part of the Old Cherokee Indian Nation.
"If you lived on the north side of the Cumberland River, you were a U.S. citizen, but if you lived on the south side of the river, you were a citizen of the 'Cherokee Nation' and therefore a 'Cherokee', regardless of your race. There were - White Cherokee - Black Cherokee - Indian Cherokee - and a mixture of all these."
from p. 43
The descendents of John Caudell "The Elder" of Hopton parish, England : 1500-2000
by Lenville Benjamin Cordell
Whitley City, Kentucky : L.B. Cordell, c2001
you can view the page here -->
http://patriot.lib.byu.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/FH11&CISOPTR=68449
Also, from another source,
"Most of the recorded history of the Cherokee in Virginia, and West Virginia, wasw transferred to England after the Revolutionary War. There are also records in France, Germany, and Spain."
The Buffalo Ridge Cherokee: A Remnant of a Great Nation Divided
by Horace R. Rice - History - 1995
Heritage Books
Genealogy
255 pages
ISBN:078840296X
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Author: ElizabethCheeks
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Are you related to Jeweldine?
Elizabeth Cheeks
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Looking for info regarding Nancy Anne Lnu Cheek b. 1760 probably in Shenandoah Valley area, d. 13 Jan 1826 in Thompson Settlement Farm, North, Lee Co, VA USA.
She was married supposedly to have marrked first Isaiah Cheek and later married Joseph Hiram Gilbert on 8 May 1784 in Shenandoah VA, USA
This is my connection with the Cheek Family and I can't seem to find out who Nancy Anne Lnu Cheek'
s parents were or siblings. I first heard that she was probably Cherokee Nation, but later have heard that most Cheeks are Belgium descent.
CAN ANYONE ASSIST ME IN FINDING OUT ABOUT Nancy Anne Lnu Cheeks ancestry? Sure would appreciate any help anyone willing to give. I have data on Joseph Hiram Gilbert descendants if anyone would like to share.
Jim Brown, Jr.
jimbrown848(a)bellsouth.net
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Author: pearsonscott2
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Question first, then thoughts
Question: What proof is there that the Dearborn County Cheeks actually descend from the George Cheek mentioned as being from Front Royal, VA? I have not been able to find any link, and so far I have not gotten source information from people for this.
This is a critical question, and
Thought 1) -- In looking through the birthdates and death dates for George Cheek, Sr., I realized it is almost as though there are two George Cheeks, and then I remembered a similar problem with another ancestor of mine, and it turned out to be a father and son, same name, both alive and having children. A George Cheek born in 1722, as some genealogies have, would be the right age to father another George Cheek, b. about 1738 or so.
Which one was married to Leannah/Leah Anna, I could not tell you. However, only one (of those that are known) has a daughter named after their mother, Leanna/Leah Anna, that being Nancy (Cheek) Green. The name Nancy occurs more often among the offspring.
As of now, the above is purely hypothetical.
Thought 2 -- many Cheek lines, including the one under discussion, which is my line also, have stories about a Cheek Cherokee ancestor, as I do. There are apparently two lines coming from George Cheek, Sr. that have reasonable claims to Indian blood, one by marriage into the Cheek line, and one by adoption of a Native American. I say reasonable. I do not know if these researchers have proven it or not. If I remember correctly, neither line was Cherokee.
So far what I have found is that there is a group of Cheeks from the Tennessee, Georgia, and Carolinas that have any reasonable claim to Cherokee blood, primarily because this is where most of the Cherokee lived. And they got their Cherokee blood by intermarriage. The Cheek line itself was never Native American as far as I can tell(this does not rule out the case of a Native American name being transcribed, translated or mistranslated as "Cheek").
Also, because the Cherokee were seen by other Native Americans as being not persecuted to the same extent as other Native American tribes, many Native Americans claimed they were Cherokee when they were not.
So, if there is Native American blood in our Dearborn County, IN, Cheek line, it most likely is not Cherokee. Not impossible, just quite unlikely.
Also, any Native American blood in the Front Royal/Dearborn Cheek line would be coming in by marriage, as anyone that bought and sold land like George Cheek did with the English, and help start the town of Front Royal, is unlikely to be Native American. Even though there were Native Americans who were sent to England to learn at English schools by their tribes, these came back to their tribes to work for their tribe on their tribes' behalf, from what I understand of this, and did not go off and try to make a buck buying and selling land from/to white men.
Was Leanna/Leah Anna Native American? Who knows? That far back it would be impossible to prove without a DNA test on an unbroken female line going back to Leanna/Leah Anna. The only female line straight from her that is known right now would be the Nancy (Cheek) Green line.
One thing that is of interest is that frontier areas it was not uncommon for a white man to take up with a Native American woman, or vice versa. However, this tended to lead to them being ostracized by both sides, from what I have read, and they tended to be the first ones to move into open land, as the Dearborn county Cheeks did. Not proof, but interesting nonetheless. Interestingly enough, if one of the stories is to be believed, a group of Indians tried to scare Nicholas Cheek, Page Cheek and his wife Barbara through verbal intimidation. Meaning either the Native Americans in the early Dearborn county spoke English, or the Cheeks and some other white men were at least familiar with the Native American language of that area.
Thought 3) Many of the children of George Cheek are supposed to have spent time in Kentucky before moving on, according to one story. This might prove a fruitful area to check as there are Cheeks in Kentucky not that far from Indiana. There is the possibility that they may have a common kinship a generation or two back before our George Cheek, Sr.
Thought 4) Does anyone know what happened to the daughters of George Cheek and Leanna/Leah Anna other than Nancy Cheek?
Thought 5) At certain points in time in the Front Royal and surrounding areas at least two Francis Cheeks, an Elisha Cheek, two different George Cheeks (differing ages), and a Judith Cheek and a Nancy Cheek, who could be the one children were named after in the George Cheek, Sr. line. Which could be considered circumstantial evidence for Thought 1) above. See the land transaction below.
Q-332: Nancy Cheek of Shannandoah Co. asne of Judith Cheek asne. of Joseph Clemmons 100 A. in Culpepper Co. Surv. Richard Young. On the Blue Rg., track to Gooney's Run, Indian R. 26 Aug 1778
p. 20 Book Q
(I think "asne" is "assignee" and "Blue Rg." is "Blue Ridge", and "Indian R." is "Indian Run" and refers to a river.)
the above from -- Ancestry.com. Virginia Northern Neck Land Grants, 1775-1800. [Vol. III] [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006. Original data: Gray, Gertrude E. Virginia Northern Neck Land Grants, 1775-1800. [Vol. III]. Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1993.
Scott
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Author: pearsonscott2
Surnames: Cheek
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If you search on the name, America Cheek, out at www.rootsweb.com, you will come across a genealogy that says she was Delaware Indian, and not Cherokee. Also gives her father as an Isaac Cheek.
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Author: pearsonscott2
Surnames: Green,
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George Cheek m. Lea Anna unknown;
Nancy Cheek m. Eli Green;
Leah Green m. Zephaniah Parks;
George Washington Parks m. Martha Catherine Caudle;
Maggie Parks m. Walter Moffitt;
Lola Moffitt m. Frank Harpham;
and so on. Rest really isn't public yet.
According to the *Parks Family History" by Eula Marie Holtze Brown, Leanna, wife of George Cheek, has her name on a deed with George in Virginia, and there it is written "Lea Anna".
Scott
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Author: pearsonscott2
Surnames: Cheek, Green
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Just noticed something.
General rule of thumb is that offspring name a male child after the father's father and a female child after the mother's mother, then name another male child after the mother's father and another female child after the father's mother.
I do not know how widespread this was among early Americans. But it does not seem to hold very well with this Cheek line.
Of those I have any decent record of children, only Nicholas, Tavener and Francis Cheek had any known offspring named George.
Only Nancy Cheek named a daughter after her mother, Leanna or Leah.
Curiously enough, the name Nancy Cheek shows up more often than Leanna among the supposed grandchildren of George and Leanna. James Cheek, Francis Cheek, and Nicholas Cheek, although there is a story that the Nancy Cheek of Francis Cheek and Mary Higgins/Kiggins was an adopted Native American of the Potawatomie.
Among the children of George Cheek, I believe that the name Page/Paige Cheek shows up among their grandchildren more than any other single name for the names I actually do have. This may be due to his being wealthy and helping out family members, though. But that is just a guess.
Francis, Nicholas, Tavener and Page were all supposed to have arrived about the same time in Indiana.
So, do we have two separate families here? Francis, Nicholas, Page and Tavener on one hand, and Nancy and some other members on another hand?
Some histories speak of Nancy Cheek as sister and her husband, Eli Green, as brother-in-law of these four, so is it possible that their father, George Cheek, had two wives?
One named Nancy, another named Leanna or Leah Anna? If so, was he married to both at the same time (which did occassionally happen back then)? or did George Cheek remarry at some point?
Birthdates are a little iffy, at least in the information I have, I only have a possible range for Nancy Cheek's birthdate.
Any thoughts?
Scott
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Which child of Nancy and Eli do you descend from?
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Author: pearsonscott2
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That would mean the the George Cheek in question is George Washington Cheek, son of Nicholas Cheek. Also, according to another researcher, Kay Lamb, the William V. Cheek listed in the early census' returns is also the son of Nicholas Cheek.
Scott
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Author: pearsonscott2
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I descend through Nancy Cheek, daughter of George Cheek and Leanna/Lea Anna, and Eli Green.
Scott
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I just found out that we Cheeks have our own hybrid dog breed known as the Cheeks.
It is a Chihuahua / Pekingese Hybrid also known as (Pek-A-Chi) (Pee-chi) (Pekachi)
For more information check out
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/cheeks.htm
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