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William's parents were John Moss b 1764 East Ham d 11 DEc 1835 also in East
Ham, wife Martha UNK m abt 1797 in Barking and they had;
James John m Mary Ann Bird b 1, William b 1798, Sarah 1797 and Joseph b
abt 1801
They did some moving around from East Ham to Barking to Chelmsford and pos
back to East Ham.
The father John b 1764 notes; Ref. Prob 11/1859 was a farrier and smith 71
yrs when he died. He was christened July 24, 1776 in Barking and his will
prove; March 3, 1836 in East Ham.
Dot
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I do see an Ann who was born in 1846 to Joseph Moss b 1801 in Chelmsford m
Elizabeth who m abt 1828.
In going over my notes this morning I did find (and I think it is yours)
John Chatfield b c 1805 m Caroline Constance Jane Barth b 1807 Shadwell m
1824 St. Dunstons, Stepney. It also says in my notes that he was the s/o
Henry and Mary Chatfield.
I am thinking this could be their parents as William and Dorinda named
their 1st son Henry who was b in 1827.
I have a small picture of the Orginal St Mary's Church replaced by a larger
building destroyed by fire in 1880. Whitechapel, orginally part of
Stepney. This is St. Mary Whitechapel in Stepney where Dorinda and William
got married.
I got this from Whitechapel_old_church-Ancestry.co.uk
That paper about Dorinda and William's marriage is from Pallots marriage
records
Yes, that is me, I did say she was born 1800 in East Ham but that was
before I found her death date with the age and where she was buried. I do
know that they lived in East Ham as that is where the kids were born.
I think we may have a clue with this Hnery and Mary Chatfield. This paper
it is on is from 2008 before I had found out more on the Moss family.
Dot
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> Ok-this may seem like a strange question but is there an "Ann" or "Anne"
> Moss in your Moss line that would have been an adult in 1855 and could have
> been witness to a marriage? I am asking because there is an Ann or Anne
> that witnessed both my g-grandfather Richard Chatfield's marriage to Ann
> Catherine Taylor (1860) and also his brother Edmond's marriage to Mary
> Lyons (1850). I thought her surname was "Boss" but on closer inspection of
> the signature and looking at Dorinda & William's marriage record the "Moss"
> & "Boss" names are almost interchangeable. Additionally, Richard & Edmond
> were also married at St. Mary's, like Dorinda. By the way, is that you on
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Who were William's parents? Where was he baptized and where (Street) did the family live in East Ham?
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Ok-this may seem like a strange question but is there an "Ann" or "Anne" Moss in your Moss line that would have been an adult in 1855 and could have been witness to a marriage? I am asking because there is an Ann or Anne that witnessed both my g-grandfather Richard Chatfield's marriage to Ann Catherine Taylor (1860) and also his brother Edmond's marriage to Mary Lyons (1850). I thought her surname was "Boss" but on closer inspection of the signature and looking at Dorinda & William's marriage record the "Moss" & "Boss" names are almost interchangeable. Additionally, Richard & Edmond were also married at St. Mary's, like Dorinda. By the way, is that you on genesreunited with the post about Dorinda born 1800 in East Ham?
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I have no idea about Cheam but I have an idea it is the same St. Dunston's as yours. Just seems strange that both being born in close dates and White Chapel and St. Dunston's is more then a coiincidence I would say.
I do have a copy of what I call a marriage certificate which states the date of marriage and both Dorinda and William's names and where it took place.
Yep they sure are a mystery!!!
All of the Moss men were either farriers with my gggrandfather being veternarian. I do know that my ggrandfather was William Kilita Moss was b in East Ham and raised in London, then went to Leamington Spa. but that is not the Chatfields, Dorinda was his grandmother. Kilita did make the newspapers tho for drowning of his wife in a river. My grandfather told of the story.
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The Chatfields in London around 1800 are surely a mystery! Right now I have no information on John Chatfield prior to his marriage. The 1841 census records puts his birth year about 1806. The 1851 census indicates he was born in Whitechapel and puts his birth record about 1807. That being said, his wife, Caroline's age on the 2 census records is off (1841 says she was born in 1806 the same as John; 1851 puts her age as 6 yrs. younger. In reality, she was born abt. Feb. 1805 according to her baptism record). John's burial record puts his year of birth as 1805. Certainly the timing would be good with your Dorinda but right now I have no additional information. I also don't know how far apart these places are or if John was actually born in Whitechapel. Do you know where it is in relation to White Hall and Cheam? I know that East Ham is right in that same area.
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Wondering if your John was related to my Dorinda Chatfield b c 1808 m 1821 in White Hall to William Moss in 1821, she was buried 4 Aug 1833 age 25 St. Dunstom Cheam England.
William was b 1798 in East Ham, Essex and buried 1837 St Mary Magdalene, East Ham, Essex.
I have all of Moss back to the early 1700's but I can't find anything on Dorinda Chatfield's parents etc.
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Looking for information about the baptism record and parents of John Chatfield, born abt. 1805 in Whitechapel, London, England. He died 07 March 1852 also in Whitechapel (burial St. Mary's Whitechapel). Address in census records and burial record is listed as "Green Dragon Yard." Married Caroline Constance Jane Barth on 19 Dec 1824 at St. Dunstan's Stepney. Known children of John and Caroline were: Edmund, Richard, Alfred, Charles, Sarah, Thoma, Letitia, & Harriot. This is my brick wall! I appreciate any and all assistance!
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Thanks! I have found Edward & Iris. I appreciate your help with this.
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