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Betty Jo wrote on 21 Aug about a Chastain and Tefeteller connection. I
tried to e-mail her at BPhill8183(a)aol.com the address in her message,
but it came back to me as addressee unknown.
If Betty Jo is out there,
Have you contacted Caleb Glenn Tefeteller in Knox Co., TN? He's a very
knowledgeable Chastain/Tefeteller researcher and may be able to help
you. I don't have Glenn's address in front of me at the moment, and will
have to look for it. Let me know if you need his snail-mail address. I
think he has an e-mail address, too.
Best regards from one of your Texas Chastain cousins whose line branched
off with Pierre's daughter Elizabeth Chastain who married David LeSueur!
Polly Dixon in Houston
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BPhill8183(a)aol.com wrote:
I'm new to this list, having just discovered my gg grandmother was a
Chastain.
My name is Betty Jo Teffeteller Phillips, and we live in Liberty Hill,
Texas, a beautiful hamlet, just NW of Austin and the wonderful Texas
hill country. It's not all scrub and cactus!! I'm married to the same
wonderful man for 36 years, have four children with three living, nine
grandchildren. Whew! Gets harried around Christmas. I'm still employed
full time as accountant and office manager for an international
engineering firm.
My Chastain connection is this. I have a Nancy Chastain, born abt 1800,
probably in Virginia. She married James H. Waters, also born in VA.
Then they migrated to Georgia. My great-grandmother was Sarah Alice
(Ann?) Waters who married Redmon Thomas Reese in GA. Sarah Alice and
Remond lived in Gordon Co., GA, so maybe Nancy and James were there or
in Pickens or Warren Co., GA.
If anyone can connect Nancy to your lineage, I'd love to hear from you.
My regards to the list,
Betty Jo
lagriffin(a)mindspring.com wrote:
>
> Here is a partial list of what I found in the book called HUGUENOT EMIGRATION
> TO VIRGINIA. at my local library.
> While at the LDS family history library recently I came across a CD from Family
> Treemaker which was a copy of this book. Word for word. I thought I'd pass on
> what I have copied for free.
>
> I am only listing Chastains
>
> DOCUMENTS, CHIEFLY UNPUBLISHED, relating to the HUGUENOT EMIGRATION
> TO VIRGINIA AND TO THE SETTLEMENT AT MANAKIN--TOWN, WITH AN
> APPENDIX OF GENEALOGIES, PRESENTING DATA OF THE FONTAINE, MAURY,
> DUPUY, TRABUE, MARYE, CHASTAIN, COCKE,AND OTHER FAMILIES,
> edited and compiled for the VIRGINIA HISTORICAL SOCIETY BY R. A. BROCK,
> Baltimore Genealogical Publishing Company 1966
> Originally Published Richmond, 1886.
> Reprinted Genealogical Publishing Company Baltimore, 1962
>
> Page 77
> REGISTER CONTAINING THE BAPTISMS MADE IN THE CHURCH OF THE FRENCH
> REFUGEES AT MANNIKINTOWN IN VIRGINIA, IN THE PARISH OF KING WILLIAM,
> IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD 1721, THE 25TH MARCH. DONE BY JAMES SOBLET,
> CLERK.
>
> Jean Chastain, son of Jean Chastain and of Marianne Chastain, his father and mother,
> born the 26 of September, 1721. was baptized the 5 October by Mr. Fontainne, he had
> for godfather and godmother, Pierre David and Anne David, his wife, who have declared
> that this child was born the day and year above, in faith (of which), signed, Jaque Soblet,
> Clerk.
>
> Page 79
>
> The 10th May, 1727, was born Judith daughter of Jean Chastain and of Charlot Chastain,
> her father and mother; was baptized the 18 May (?) by Mr. Brook, minister of Hanover.
> She had for godfather Mr. Pierre Chastain and Magdelaine Chastain, and Anne David, wife
> of Pierre David, for Godmother. The parties have declared that the child was born the day
> and year above. J. Soblet, Cleark.
> The 23rd day of August, 1727, was born Marie Magdelaine, a girl, to Mr. Estiene Chastain
> and Marthe Chastain, her father and mother; was present for baptism by Mr. Barthelmie
> Dupuy and Mar[the?] Dupuy, his wife. The parties have declared that this child was born
> the day and year above. J. Soblet, Cleark.
> The 24th day of the month of July was born to Estienne Chastain a black named Tobye. 1727.
>
> Page 80
>
> The 8th June, 1728, was born a black girl to Estienne Chastain named Janne.
>
> Page 81
>
> The 3rd November, 1728, was born a boy to Etienne Chastain; he had for godfather, Gillaume
> Salle; for godmother, Elizabeth Salle; was baptized by Mr. Swift; was baptized the 27th December
> of the said year.
>
> Page 82
>
> The 24th February, 1728 [1729], was born Pierre Chastain, son of Jean Chastain and of Charlote
> Chastain; was baptized by Mr. Swift the 24th March; he had for godfather Abraham Salle and
> ----re Amonte; for godmother, Marie Teler.
> The 19th March (?) was born a black girl to Estienne Chastain.
>
> Page 83
>
> The 1st March, 1729, was born Estiene Chastain, son of Estiene Chastain and of Martre, his wife;
> was baptized the 12 April following by Mr. Massom; had for godfather, Jean Jaque Dupui and
> Estiene Farsi; for godmother Philipe Dupui. The parties have declared that he was born the day
> and year above named. John Chastain
>
> Page 86
>
> The 5th January, 1731 [1732], was born Magdelaine Chastain, daughter of Jean Chastain
> and of Charlote Chastain; was baptized by Mr. Marye, minister; had for godfather, Charle
> Amonet; for godmother, Magdelaine Salle and Elizabeth Chastain. John Chastain.
>
> Page 87
>
> The 17th February, 1731 [1732], was born to Estienne Chastain a black girl named Suson.
> The 18th July 1732, was born Judie, a black girl, to Estiene Chastain. Jean Chastain
>
> Page 89
>
> The 15th March. 1733 [1734], was born Isaac Chastain, son of Rene and of Judith, his wife;
> present for baptism by Etieb\ne Calvet; for godmother Elizabet Clavet. Jean Chastain.
>
> Page 90
>
> The 3d 8ber, 1734, was born Janne Chastain, daughter of Jean and of Judith, his wife; had for
> godfather, David Lesueur; for godmother, Janne Martain and Janne Amonnet. Jean Chastain.
>
> Page 93
>
> The 6th 9ber, 1736, was born Pierre Chastain, son of Rene Chastain and of Judith Chastain.
>
> Page 94
>
> The 27th August, 1735, was born Filis, a black girl, to Estiene Chastain.
> The 8th May, 1737, was born to Estiene Chastain a black named Ben.
>
> Page 95
>
> The 9th of 9ber, 1737 was born Estiene Chastain, son of Jean Chastain and of Charlote Chastain;
> had for godfather, Pierre David and Jean Chastain, his brother; for godmother, Magdelaine
> Salle, the younger; was baptized by Mr. Brook.
> The 16th Xber, 1737 was born to Estiene Chastain a little black girl named Lucy.
>
> Page 96
>
> The 17th May, 1738, was born Mariane Chastain, daughter of Rene Chastain and of Judith his wife;
> had for godfather, Jean Chastain; for godmother, Magdelaine Chastain and Janne Martain.
>
> Page 98
>
> The 10th July, 1739, was born a black to Marthe Chastain, named Samiel.
>
> Page 100
>
> The 6th Xber, 1740 was born a black girl to Marie Chastain; her name is Nani.
> The 31st Xber, 1740 was born a black girl to Marte Chastain, her name is Moll; she died the 11th
> January 1740 [1741].
> The 10th February 1740 [1741], was born to Jean Chastain a black girl; her name is Batte.
> The 12th February, 1740 [1741] was born a black girl to Jean Chastain; her name is Bette.
>
> Page 101
>
> The 14th June, 1741, was born a black girl to Rene Chastain; her name is Janne.
> The 30th June, ------, was born Rene Chastain, son of Rene Chastain and of Judith, his wife;
> had for godfather, his father, and for godmother, Judith Chastain, wife of Jean Chastain.
>
> Page 103
>
> The 23rd January, 1743 [1744], was born Magdelaine Chastain, daughter of Jean
> Chastain and of Judith, his wife; had for godfather, Guilieaume Salle; for godmother, the
> wife if Guiliaume Salle and Magdelaine Salle, her aunt.
>
> Page 105
>
> The 24th March, 1745 [1746], was born a black girl to Jean Chastain; her name is Fillis.
>
> Page 106
>
> The 12th June, 1747, was born to Jean Chastain a black; his name is Will.
>
> Page 107
>
> The 7th January. 1749 [1750], was born to Jean Chastain a black girl; her name is Nell.
>
> Page 110
>
> The 12th June, 1753, was born a balck girl to Jean Chastain; her name is Philis.
> The 12th June, 1754, was born a black girl to Jean Chastain; her name is Martila.
>
> FRAGMENT OF A REGISTER OF DEATHS...
>
> Page 110
>
> The 12th January, 1722 [1723], died Janne Chastain, daughter of ____ieur Chastain and of Anne
> Chastain, her father and mother, aged about 6 years; was buried the thirteenth of the month, on
> Sunday, at three o'clock in the afternoon.
> 3 April, 1723, died Anne Soblet, the ----sieur Pierre Chastain, aged about ---years; was buried the
> fourth of the month.
>
> Page 111
>
> ----August. 1724, died Mariane ----n Chastain; aged 28 years; -------was buried the 21st of the same
> month at five o'clock in the afternoon.
> The 24th December, 1725, died Marthe -------, wife to Monsieur Estiene Chastain; aged about
> fifty-two or three years.
> The 24th January, 1725 [1726], died -----, wife of -------Chastain; aged -----; buried the 25th of the
> month.
>
> It seems that all the white children were baptized and the black children were not....
> I believe there was one black boy who was born to a white man, who was baptized.
> But he was not a Chastain.
>
> Lee Ann Griffin
>
> ==== CHASTAIN Mailing List ====
> It is wise to keep in mind that neither success or failure is ever final.
It was the practice to baptise black children. Maybe not everybody
followed it, but I have found the statements numerous times in
genealogical information that so and so, a slave belonging to Mr. XXX
was baptised.
I hope nobody interprets the word that a black child was born to a
caucasian land owner as meaning that the master was the biological
father of the child. Certainly it happened - but not to everyone.
Marv Chastain
Dear Chastains, roll-call or whatever,
I am related to: gr-gr-gr-Grandmother Mary (Polly) Chastain, daughter of
Elijah and Anna Middleton Chastain. She married Joel Shelton, ca 1827 in
Haywood Co., NC. Their 1st child was my gr-gr-Grandmother Margaret (Peggy)
Shelton Stone. She marr. Jasper Stone 7 Jan. 1848, Dalton,GA. Margaret &
Jasper had a son Esau, b. 1850, and he marr. Milly E. Autry in Dalton who
was half-Cherokee. In the mid-1890's the following John Stone, b. 1849,
Esau and Milly, Joel b. 1862, and Salena b. 9 May 1869 (my gr-Grandmother)
came to TX with their families with many children. Now, Esau and and Milly
stopped off in the Choctaw Nation, Robertatown, (now OK). This is in the
1900 Choctaw Nation census, as are the other persons listed here are in the
GA Murray Co 1850 census, and Whitfield Co. GA a break-away part of Murray
in 1860, 1870, & 1880. Now Milly had a sister Tabitha who marr. a Wm.
Bagwell. We cannot find the maiden name of Milly's Mother, and many Indian
sources have been tried. The Autrys were easy as Micajah,NC, died at the
Alamo, and the late cowboy actor Gene was their cousin. By 1910, Esau and
Milly had moved to LaSalle Co.TX. Milly died in 1929 in Millet TX and
there was a problem with her burial, and no death certificate can be found,
and we are thinking that it was her Indian ancestry. Have a portrait of
her and she was a lovely looking lady (a real beauty). Any info
appreciated. Family tree:
Pierre Chastain, b. 1660 & Anne Soblet, b. 1684
Peter, Jr.,b. ca. 1707 & Mildred Archer
Ten Shilling Bell- John, b. ca. 1743, and Mary O'Bryan
Elijah, b.1776 & Anna Middleton, b.1778
Mary Chastain b.1810 & Joel Shelton, b.1809
Margaret Shelton, b. 1828 & Jasper W. Stone, 1825
Salena A.Stone, b. 1869 & R. Riley Land, b. 1857
Annie Louise Land, b. 1896 & Earnest Reuben O'Neal, b. 1884
Opal O'Neal, b. 1923 & Erwin August Petrich, b. 1919
Carol Ann Petrich Flores (moi), 1943 & Luis Mario Flores, Phd. b.1936
Patrick Gordon Robb, 1966 & Rebecca Reid
(son of my 1st marriage to Warren Gordon Robb)
Abbie Elizabeth Robb, b. 1994
Andrew Patrick Robb, b. 1996
Ltlolelady(a)aol.com wrote:
>
> Well unless you have a DNA test - whose to say what is in our background,
> ligitmate or otherwise. I don't know of anyone that can positively state
> his/her blood has absolutely no other race but caucasian to it.
>
Hi everyone:
Since the subject of DNA was brought up, I thought you might like to see
the following quote which I received from a cousin who subscribes to the
ILWASHIN Mailing List.
Polly Dixon in Houston
"DNA and genealogy
"This is an excerpt from a longer piece. The distaff lines are
sometimes so difficult to trace in many cultures, I just thought many of
you would be interested. This will, however, give you the gist of the
thing.
"Mitochondrial or "myDNA" lasts much longer, possibly because there is
more of it. In some cases myDNA can actually be identified centuries
after the death of the individual. The other significant difference
between the two, and the one of primary interest to genealogists, is
that nuclear DNA changes from one generation to the next, but
mitochondrial DNA can be passed down unchanged on the maternal side of
families for as many as 39 generations. Every woman reading this article
has the same mitochondrial DNA as her mother, her maternal grandmother,
and so on back for an undetermined number of generations. Every man
reading this article has the same mitochondrial DNA as his mother, but
it will not be passed to his daughters; instead, his wife's
mitochondrial DNA will go down in his daughter's lines, and in the lines
of their daughter's daughters.
Take your pedigree chart and follow your mother's line back as far on
the female lines as you can go. The woman at the end of the chart has
the same mitochondrial DNA as you do. If you are a man, the line stops
with you unless you have sisters to carry it on. If you are a woman the
mitochondrial DNA of your female ancestors will pass down to your
daughters.
Using DNA from a tooth, Oxford University scientists recently
established a blood tie between a 9,000 year old skeleton know as
"Chedder Man" and an English school teacher who lives just a half mile
from the cave where the bones were found in 1903. It is the longest
human lineage ever traced. As described above, mitochondrial DNA comes
through the maternal line, so the teacher, Adam Targett, is not a direct
descendant of Cheddar Man. He would be related through Cheddar Man's
mother or sister.
"Excerpted from an article by Mrs. Alden Davis
==== ILWASHIN Mailing List ===="
Here is a partial list of what I found in the book called HUGUENOT EMIGRATION
TO VIRGINIA. at my local library.
While at the LDS family history library recently I came across a CD from Family
Treemaker which was a copy of this book. Word for word. I thought I'd pass on
what I have copied for free.
I am only listing Chastains
DOCUMENTS, CHIEFLY UNPUBLISHED, relating to the HUGUENOT EMIGRATION
TO VIRGINIA AND TO THE SETTLEMENT AT MANAKIN--TOWN, WITH AN
APPENDIX OF GENEALOGIES, PRESENTING DATA OF THE FONTAINE, MAURY,
DUPUY, TRABUE, MARYE, CHASTAIN, COCKE,AND OTHER FAMILIES,
edited and compiled for the VIRGINIA HISTORICAL SOCIETY BY R. A. BROCK,
Baltimore Genealogical Publishing Company 1966
Originally Published Richmond, 1886.
Reprinted Genealogical Publishing Company Baltimore, 1962
Page 77
REGISTER CONTAINING THE BAPTISMS MADE IN THE CHURCH OF THE FRENCH
REFUGEES AT MANNIKINTOWN IN VIRGINIA, IN THE PARISH OF KING WILLIAM,
IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD 1721, THE 25TH MARCH. DONE BY JAMES SOBLET,
CLERK.
Jean Chastain, son of Jean Chastain and of Marianne Chastain, his father and mother,
born the 26 of September, 1721. was baptized the 5 October by Mr. Fontainne, he had
for godfather and godmother, Pierre David and Anne David, his wife, who have declared
that this child was born the day and year above, in faith (of which), signed, Jaque Soblet,
Clerk.
Page 79
The 10th May, 1727, was born Judith daughter of Jean Chastain and of Charlot Chastain,
her father and mother; was baptized the 18 May (?) by Mr. Brook, minister of Hanover.
She had for godfather Mr. Pierre Chastain and Magdelaine Chastain, and Anne David, wife
of Pierre David, for Godmother. The parties have declared that the child was born the day
and year above. J. Soblet, Cleark.
The 23rd day of August, 1727, was born Marie Magdelaine, a girl, to Mr. Estiene Chastain
and Marthe Chastain, her father and mother; was present for baptism by Mr. Barthelmie
Dupuy and Mar[the?] Dupuy, his wife. The parties have declared that this child was born
the day and year above. J. Soblet, Cleark.
The 24th day of the month of July was born to Estienne Chastain a black named Tobye. 1727.
Page 80
The 8th June, 1728, was born a black girl to Estienne Chastain named Janne.
Page 81
The 3rd November, 1728, was born a boy to Etienne Chastain; he had for godfather, Gillaume
Salle; for godmother, Elizabeth Salle; was baptized by Mr. Swift; was baptized the 27th December
of the said year.
Page 82
The 24th February, 1728 [1729], was born Pierre Chastain, son of Jean Chastain and of Charlote
Chastain; was baptized by Mr. Swift the 24th March; he had for godfather Abraham Salle and
----re Amonte; for godmother, Marie Teler.
The 19th March (?) was born a black girl to Estienne Chastain.
Page 83
The 1st March, 1729, was born Estiene Chastain, son of Estiene Chastain and of Martre, his wife;
was baptized the 12 April following by Mr. Massom; had for godfather, Jean Jaque Dupui and
Estiene Farsi; for godmother Philipe Dupui. The parties have declared that he was born the day
and year above named. John Chastain
Page 86
The 5th January, 1731 [1732], was born Magdelaine Chastain, daughter of Jean Chastain
and of Charlote Chastain; was baptized by Mr. Marye, minister; had for godfather, Charle
Amonet; for godmother, Magdelaine Salle and Elizabeth Chastain. John Chastain.
Page 87
The 17th February, 1731 [1732], was born to Estienne Chastain a black girl named Suson.
The 18th July 1732, was born Judie, a black girl, to Estiene Chastain. Jean Chastain
Page 89
The 15th March. 1733 [1734], was born Isaac Chastain, son of Rene and of Judith, his wife;
present for baptism by Etieb\ne Calvet; for godmother Elizabet Clavet. Jean Chastain.
Page 90
The 3d 8ber, 1734, was born Janne Chastain, daughter of Jean and of Judith, his wife; had for
godfather, David Lesueur; for godmother, Janne Martain and Janne Amonnet. Jean Chastain.
Page 93
The 6th 9ber, 1736, was born Pierre Chastain, son of Rene Chastain and of Judith Chastain.
Page 94
The 27th August, 1735, was born Filis, a black girl, to Estiene Chastain.
The 8th May, 1737, was born to Estiene Chastain a black named Ben.
Page 95
The 9th of 9ber, 1737 was born Estiene Chastain, son of Jean Chastain and of Charlote Chastain;
had for godfather, Pierre David and Jean Chastain, his brother; for godmother, Magdelaine
Salle, the younger; was baptized by Mr. Brook.
The 16th Xber, 1737 was born to Estiene Chastain a little black girl named Lucy.
Page 96
The 17th May, 1738, was born Mariane Chastain, daughter of Rene Chastain and of Judith his wife;
had for godfather, Jean Chastain; for godmother, Magdelaine Chastain and Janne Martain.
Page 98
The 10th July, 1739, was born a black to Marthe Chastain, named Samiel.
Page 100
The 6th Xber, 1740 was born a black girl to Marie Chastain; her name is Nani.
The 31st Xber, 1740 was born a black girl to Marte Chastain, her name is Moll; she died the 11th
January 1740 [1741].
The 10th February 1740 [1741], was born to Jean Chastain a black girl; her name is Batte.
The 12th February, 1740 [1741] was born a black girl to Jean Chastain; her name is Bette.
Page 101
The 14th June, 1741, was born a black girl to Rene Chastain; her name is Janne.
The 30th June, ------, was born Rene Chastain, son of Rene Chastain and of Judith, his wife;
had for godfather, his father, and for godmother, Judith Chastain, wife of Jean Chastain.
Page 103
The 23rd January, 1743 [1744], was born Magdelaine Chastain, daughter of Jean
Chastain and of Judith, his wife; had for godfather, Guilieaume Salle; for godmother, the
wife if Guiliaume Salle and Magdelaine Salle, her aunt.
Page 105
The 24th March, 1745 [1746], was born a black girl to Jean Chastain; her name is Fillis.
Page 106
The 12th June, 1747, was born to Jean Chastain a black; his name is Will.
Page 107
The 7th January. 1749 [1750], was born to Jean Chastain a black girl; her name is Nell.
Page 110
The 12th June, 1753, was born a balck girl to Jean Chastain; her name is Philis.
The 12th June, 1754, was born a black girl to Jean Chastain; her name is Martila.
FRAGMENT OF A REGISTER OF DEATHS...
Page 110
The 12th January, 1722 [1723], died Janne Chastain, daughter of ____ieur Chastain and of Anne
Chastain, her father and mother, aged about 6 years; was buried the thirteenth of the month, on
Sunday, at three o'clock in the afternoon.
3 April, 1723, died Anne Soblet, the ----sieur Pierre Chastain, aged about ---years; was buried the
fourth of the month.
Page 111
----August. 1724, died Mariane ----n Chastain; aged 28 years; -------was buried the 21st of the same
month at five o'clock in the afternoon.
The 24th December, 1725, died Marthe -------, wife to Monsieur Estiene Chastain; aged about
fifty-two or three years.
The 24th January, 1725 [1726], died -----, wife of -------Chastain; aged -----; buried the 25th of the
month.
It seems that all the white children were baptized and the black children were not....
I believe there was one black boy who was born to a white man, who was baptized.
But he was not a Chastain.
Lee Ann Griffin
You know, they say that fuzz thing is inherited from the mother's side of
the family, but everyone of my paternal ancestors, thus far, have been that
way, and I'm slowly getting there -- rapidly approaching 20 . . . . . . . .
. . . twice, and still . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . almost have a full head
of hair.
Thanks for the giggle slim!
Ciao for now,
Ray
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----- Original Message -----
From: slim <slim(a)n-gate.com>
To: <CHASTAIN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [CHASTAIN] Charlie Cox on decendants
> If you have very little fuzz on top we must be related!!
> Howard chasteen
>
>
> ==== CHASTAIN Mailing List ====
> Attitude is more important than the past, education, money, circumstances,
failures, success and what other people think or
> say or do.
>
>
Jim,Slim, Peg and all, dug up the papers again. Peter chastain,whoever he
is,must have been in business in 1794 with a Davis Moore. The name of the
company is Chastain and Moore . It goes on to direct the sheriff to arrest
both without delay and attach the goods, chattels,house,lands and other
hereditaments and real estate of both parties. A William stephens is also
involved and appears to be the culprit.
The lawyer for Stephens wanted Chastain and Moore arrested quickly,because he
herd they were about to leave town and even gave them their location as King
street.
These papers are all drawn on the court of commom pleas at Charleston,s.c.
IT appears that it was over a 450.00 dollor debt. The judge ruled in Stephens
favor.
Other inf. on Lucinda Chapman Chastain later. Guess what? while searching for
the above i found other papers on fork shoals and B .E . CHASTAIN. More later
Gerald
M.Chastain
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Hi All
If there is an issue here, it is, "Are they really descendants?" NOT
"Are they Caucasian or any other race?".
I would hate for the Association to exclude anyone because of race, but
we might rightly exclude someone, from our List of Descendants, because
they are not actual descendants.
We do that regularly by not putting names into the database that cannot
be proven as descendants. I don't know what our policy is for legally
adopted children of descendants. I would hope that they are included.
Charlie
Ltlolelady(a)aol.com wrote:
>
> Well unless you have a DNA test - whose to say what is in our background,
> ligitmate or otherwise. I don't know of anyone that can positively state
> his/her blood has absolutely no other race but caucasian to it.
>
> ==== CHASTAIN Mailing List ====
> Attitude is more important than the past, education, money, circumstances, failures, success and what other people think or
> say or do.
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Thank you all for your kind replies, I think I am well on my way to getting
started now.
As to my line:
Father: Albert Sullivan Chastain, Born Nov 1921, deceased Sept 1968
Birthplace unknown
Grandfather: Dempsey Chastain
Almost everything about Dempsey is unknown, he left his
family at an early age and my maternal grandmother either died in childbirth
or shortly there after.
As to 'Family Legends', yes I have a number to research, everything from the
Cherokee princess' to the 'lost uncle'
Again, thank you for you replies, I am off and running
Jeff Chastain
Charlie Cox, your thoughts are well put. I would certainly hope we do not
need a policy, either on this list or in the PCFA. Most, and I guess nearly
all of us, are a Duke's mixture. My Mother's side has Choctaw blood. And it
is my understanding that my Great Grandfather WHH Chastain had a brother who
married a Cherokee. We have several Orientals. One is my friend here in
Phoenix. We have at least one Cherokee on this list and at one time we had a
black person. We are all God's Children and God Bless us all, we are family.
I truly hope that no one is offended by this talk. We accept blondes,
brunettes, redheads and some like me with very little fuzz on top, also.
This is an open forum.
CARLOS THOMASON.
<< Charlie wrote: If there is an issue here, it is, "Are they really
descendants?" NOT
"Are they Caucasian or any other race?".
I would hate for the Association to exclude anyone because of race, but
we might rightly exclude someone, from our List of Descendants, because
they are not actual descendants. >>
Well unless you have a DNA test - whose to say what is in our background,
ligitmate or otherwise. I don't know of anyone that can positively state
his/her blood has absolutely no other race but caucasian to it.
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Hi Slim et al.
To add another point. I have seen several emails listing Chastain males
as "full blooded" Indian. If this is true, I know of no way that this
individual can be a direct "birth" desendant of Dr. Peter Chastain. I
suspect that this individual could never be more than half indian.
As you mentioned, this could be a case where the Chastain name was
assumed by an indian. This practice was common with members of the
Cherokee Nation. I also might be a case where he was legally "adopted"
as a son by a Peter Chastain desendant.
Charlie
slim wrote:
>
> To: Whomever on the list!
>
> I am sure you are aware that there are some Indians, Mulattos, and
> Slaves that took the name of the owner of the place they were on or of
> the head of the place where they lived or worked.
>
> Now I will open a real can of worms to illustrate my point. on the 1880
> census of the Amos Chastine (sic) household, page 161, Pendleton
> township, there is a Richard Hutchison listed as a 20 year old black
> male. Hutchisons (Hutchinsons) lived in the neighborhood.
>
> On the 1910 census, district 137,sheet 10, vol. 42, in Spartanburg
> county there appears a black male, James Chestine, age 19, enumerated in
> the home of a Tom Taylor. (Where did he take the name?)
>
> This is only two instances. I have spotted more. Everybody needed a
> name. Some used the name of the man/woman that caused them. Others used
> the name of the family they were connected with. Its that simple.
>
> I have talked to folks who swear there never have been any persons of
> color with the Chastain surname, or close spellings. Well they are miss
> informed.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Howard Porter (Slim) Chasteen
>
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> The longer I live, the more I realize the importance of attitude on life.
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Just watching the Civil War Journal on the History Channel. After the
taking of New Orleans in 1862, a woman by the name Mary CHESTNUT was named
as the source of a particular reading on the show.
I know that there are CHESTNUT researchers out there, so I thought someone
might be interested in this, and may be able to locate the actual written
letter or diary.
Hope it helps someone. Good luck.
Ciao for now,
Ray
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Joe,
You and I have corresponded before on this line. Two Questions:
One: Can you tell me more about BrightBerry and family and his father's
family?
Two: Do you live in Rockcastle County? We are stopping by there on our way
home from Cherokee, NC the weekend after Labor Day and would love to meet you
and talk about these families, considering I will be Bringing someone who has
multiple connections to the Chasteen, Clarks and Millers, and Loman's of this
area.
Thanks,
Audri
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Hi Rose
I am the grandson of Tilden Chastain, I did not realize thare was another.
James Clark Tilden Chastain, b. 16 Dec 1884, DeKalb County, AL
d. 28 Dec 1971, Wylam, Jefferson County, AL
Here is his line, as I have it. There may be errors.
G F James Clark Tilden Chastain; 12/16/1884; DeKalb County, AL
Sarah Ora "Sallie" Brown, 10/16/1885; Cleborne County, AL
GG F John Bibb Chastain; 11/05/1847; Cherokee County,GA
Ruth Elizabeth Frances (Fannie) Crumly, 02/05/1859; GA
GGG F James Chastain; 05/17/1812; Buncombe Cty, NC
Delphin Dewberry; 04/14/1814;
GGGGF Abner Chastain Jr.; abt 1791; Buncombe Cty, NC
Nancy Elzey;
GGGGGF Abner Chastain 10/29/1764 Buckingham, VA
Rachel Barns, abt 1764
GGGGGGF John Chastain (Rev); abt 1743; Manakintowne,VA
Mary O'Bryan; abt 1742
GGGGGGGF Pierre (Peter) Chastain Jr.; abt 1707; Manakintowne, VA
Mildred or Middy Archer
GGGGGGGGF Dr. Pierre Jacob (Peter) Chastain; abt 1663; Charost, Berr, France
Anne Sublett; Sedan, Province of Cham, France
Are we closely related?
Have a nice day!!!
Charlie
Rose C Taylor wrote:
>
> I WOULD LIKE VERY MUCH TO HAVE THE E-MAIL OF MY COUZIN. I ASSUME THAT
> SHE IS A MEMBER OF THE CHASTAIN LINE E-MAIL . I DESPARETLY NEED SOME
> INFO ON OUR FAMILY TREE TO COMPLETE MY ENTRY BEFORE THE DEADLINE OF
> 10/1/99.
> KAREN BEALE WHO SHARES THE SAME GRANDMOTHER (SARAH WEBB ALDRIDGE)
> AS MYSELF, IF YOU READ THIS (OR ANYONE WHO KNOWS HER E-MAIL) PLEASE REPLY
> ASAP. THANKS , ROSE CHASTAIN TAYLOR (DAUGHTER OF TILDEN CHASTAIN).
>
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Hi Carlos, Gayle, Jean et al.
We may all be cousins.
Here is my Burnett Line (different spelling, but I think the same root).
It also goes back to KY.
Samuel N. Cox, b. 11 Nov 1811(11/11/11) Putnam County, GA,
d. 24 Aug 1863, Winchester, VA, Confederate Hospital;
m. 2 Nov 1830, Malinda Burnett, b. abt 1811
m. Elizabeth A. Burnett; b. abt 1817
Sisters
Their Line
Jeremiah Burnett Jr. b. 1775/1779 d. 23 Jun 1848
m. Rachel Affeniah? Crow b. 10 Feb 1779 d. 1863 Fayette Co., GA
Jeremiah Burnett Sr. b. 1730, Knox County, KY d. Prob. Wayne County, KY
m. Elizabeth
M. Rosa
Peter Burnett, b. abt 1744
Either Peters or Jeremiah Srs "b." is obviously incorrect. I don't
think that a Son can be born before a Father.
I cannot confirm any of the Burnett data sources. This came from the
LDS database.
Let me know if you have any Jeremiahs.
Have a nice day!!!
Charlie
JBrand1056(a)aol.com wrote:
>
> Carolas Thomason, How are we related? This is news to me. I have Chasteen's
> married into my Barnett (my great uncle James Barnett married Mary Catherine
> Chasteen) down in Rockcastle Co., KY James Barnett is the son of John Barnett
> and Elizabeth Johnson, grandson of Jane Williams and James, Barnett,Jr from
> Scott Co., VA. g-grangson of Joseph Williams of Scott Co.., VA.
>
> I have all James & Mary Catherine Barnett's line down and some of her line
> also. Think maybe you should write me privately.
>
> For once my soap box act just might have paid off. Gayl and I are related
> through the Williams line.
>
> Jean
>
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> Today's tasks must be done while planning those for tomorrow.
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Speaking of Thomasons,
Carlos did you ever check out the Willie Fred Thomason family around the
middle Georgia/Alabama border near Columbus, GA and Phenix City AL? One
family I know for sure there in the line is Fred and Lorene Thomason of
Ellerslie Georgia. I dated their daughter Linda in high school and if
too many folk have not died, the family history was pretty well
available back then, 35 years ago. I can get some phone numbers if you
would like.
Howard (slim) Chasteen
To: GM Chastain and the list;
Its OK Gerald, I have been flamed about using all caps too. As more and
more internet experts use the list and other resources, it seems they
bring one of the long established rules of internet etiquette with them.
(Established by whom I don't know!) That is "all caps" is equivalent to
Screaming in email"ese". As an engineer of more than thirty years, and
one who usually prints in all caps when writing manually, I personally
enjoy seeing all caps! It is easier for me to read. ha ha! I do respect
the desire of others to use "standard" cases of type. We all have to try
to get along and I hope this will end the ALL CAPS string so we can get
on to more important matters. People have an understanding spirit when
we ask them to!
Thank you for the efforts you are making on the Chastains that seem to
be all snarled up in the old Forks area. Hope that with everyone's
good solid input, we can make some progress. I certainly have noticed
some pieces of the puzzle that are helping me form a more solid
hypothesis for my ancestral tie in.
God Bless You,
Howard Porter Chasteen, "The Unconnected"
Ladies and Gentlemen:
Two questions if you will allow?
1) How do I go about getting started. My father and grandfather are
deceased. My brother once started this investigation and pointed out that
we were in the PCFA but beyond that there was no information. Since then I
have lost all contact. I would like to research my line as well as my
wife's.
2) Is there software that can help (preferably freeware or shareware)
Sorry to intrude on the reason for this list but at this time I am somewhat
lost. Please send all replies via email (jchastain(a)iquest.net) as I would
not want to take away from the reason for this list.
Thank you
Jeff Chastain