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Lee Ann's letter makes me think that I may have over emphasized my eagerness
to make this list truly a family history list. We have all of the archive
space we will ever need. And, I want you to feel free to post anything you
feel is of interest to the family and may assist in research. Just keep it
related to genealogy. To our French CHASTAINs I would like to say. HANG IN
THERE, WE WILL GIVE YOU ALL OF THE HELP WE CAN.
CARLOS THOMASON
I agree entirely with Gerre's point of view here, but maybe there
is something to be said for forwarding the "other" information
on to our colleague, friend, and possibly relative in France
-- but only if it is carefully labeled as Chastain-related information
that, though not connected to our "American Chastains," he might
consider using in his search for connections with and among other
Chastain lines in France. Let the user beware....
That is, the information may -- repeat, MAY -- possess some internal
validity that he might find useful, even though it has now been
discredited in our own context. I wouldn't want us to be in
the position of having information of possible use and then,
after he finds it himself, having to admit sheepishly that "we
had that information all the time...."
Perhaps that is what the poster intended when he posted the information
we now believe to be incorrect; I don't know. But so much misinformation
circulates about these families, especially the ones that are
linked back to European lines, that every family association
needs a solid, dependable source of the accepted interpretation.
I am grateful that we have such a source in the Pierre Chastain
family association, both in print (the newsletter) and on-line
in the person of Gerre. We all have other families, surely,
where this is not the case, and it can be a nightmare to sort
out the newly false, the old false, and the stuff that lies inbetween!
The P.C. of course information needs to be reviewed and if necessary
corrected from time to time. In that connection, might I make
a modest suggestion? Might the rear inside cover of the newsletter
add, at the bottom, the date when the authoritative version of
P.C.'s life outlined there was last changed? That would assist
in knowing whether or not we have the latest information.
See you in 2000, I hope.
Donn Neal
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I didn't change the subject line, oh please forgive me....
I see others have an option on this matter also..<smile>
One more comment....since when are the books we find in the
library NOT documented. I don't seem to see the PCFA books
there. I will remind my children... that the books they use for
their school researching are not correct.
Lee Ann Griffin
Please DON'T responed to the list regarding this letter....
I've been watching this list for awhile, never saying too much in fear that
Carlos would tell me that my questions or comments were not allowed,
"not enough room in the archives." So I sat and watched and watched,
to see what information I could fine on my husband's relatives.
All I really learned was that I needed to spend more money to buy the ONLY
correct books...hmmmm something doesn't sound right.
I'm now willing to buy all the book listed at the PCFA...(at least 2 copies
of each)
BUT.... I'll be giving the extra copy to the LDS family history center in
Los Angeles.
I'm very fortunate that I can afford to do this, but I know some that can't
even
afford one book.
I'm on many of the rootsweb mailing lists...and Yes, I do contribute !!!
On another list I've one owner who wants all of the 100 people to respond to
each
and every query regardless if you've anything to post. Now I can tell you
99
responses that say I've nothing is a true waste of archive space. Tell me
every time
Carlos tells us not to share what's not important, does that not go into the
archives?
Do I need to pull up the last say 6 months of mail and count the wasted
space?
Do I dare say what's one man's trash can be anothers treasure!!!!!!
I noticed the name Dr. James Garvin Chastain was mentioned so I'm guessing
that
all this mail and attitude is because I had the guts to stand up and post
something that
was not printed by the PCFA.
By the way the email was wonderful from all that replied directly to me...I
was shocked
at how many people that wanted the information.
So I posted more information so people could pick and choose what they want
to have
in their information. I never said that this is FACT, I said this is what I
FOUND at the
Library. Sometimes seeing what one person wrote and then another, can make
you
see all the pieces to the puzzle...not just the FINAL outcome. Believe it
or not some
people like to do the research them selves and work for what they
treasure!!!!!!!!
Anyone can go to a store or on line and say Hey look at what research I did.
I'm not as angry as I sound...I'm just disappointed! I'm truely sorry if it
sounds like I'm
attacking just a few but as they say the man at the top has the worst
job....
Not everyone knows everything and NO one person is always right....
(getting off my box) and yes I'm planning to go today to search for even
more Chastain
information....
Lee Ann Griffin
There seem to be a number of Marshall Chastains in Illinois. I am trying to
find documentation which connects Marshall Calvin Chastain to a wife, Rachel
Howerton, and then to a son, Samuel Tilman Chastain. I want to research the
'correct' Marshall for my line.
Thanks.
Susan Drago
In a message dated 7/31/99 12:10:07 PM Central Daylight Time, neals(a)erols.com
writes:
<< I agree entirely with Gerre's point of view here, but maybe there
is something to be said for forwarding the "other" information >>
I see nothing wrong with posting undocumented information as long as it is
identified as undocumented. Who knows, perhaps something in a post may point
a researcher in another direction and result in documentation of some of the
missing lines. Jack Shastid
I had not planned to get into this discussion, but I want to publicly add my
'amen' to the letters of Charles Cox, Chuck Mayfield and Gerre Buland, about
the quality of the information posted to computers of our subscribers. I
think everyone will agree. It is the way to go, Gang. CARLOS THOMASON,
Since my name has been brought into this discussion, I feel I should make a
response.
First of all, I do not feel that I am the only who can answer genealogical
questions about the Chastain family. However, I do feel that those who do
respond should act in a responsible manner . It would certainly benefit all
of us if everyone would send out only information that has been documented.
We are not claiming that only that information as published by PCFA is
correct. Our publications are based on the research of Cameron Allen,
F.A.S.G. If you have not read his articles, you can order them from the PCFA
Librarians. Price is $5.00. We have combined these articles under one
cover. What Mr. Allen has discovered completely discredits the information
found in Dr. James Garvin Chastain's little book published in 1933.
Gerre Buland, PCFA Genealogist
I tend to agree with Charley. If the only information on Chastains that we
are allowed to see/hear is that published by the PCFA, then why do we need
to maintain this list? We can all buy the book and then go on our merry way!
If information submitted here is inaccurate and proven to be inaccurate,
then I appreciate hearing about it. However, I do not appreciate hearing
that information is inaccurate just because it is not published by PCFA.
Certainly, genealogical information that relates a period which ended many
years before Pierre was born should not be totally discounted on that basis.
Respectfully submitted,
Chuck Mayfield
2008 Roundrock Trail
Plano, TX 75075
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Sent: Friday, July 30, 1999 10:51 AM
To: CHASTAIN-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CHASTAIN-L] Could you help me ?
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Hi Loyce
In response to your letter quoted below, I think I prefaced the material
with sufficient disqualifiers.
> Most agree the following is almost useless.
> It certainly has not been validated / authenticated. The source is
suspect.
> It was however based on something.
> If that documentation exists, I am sure many people would be interested.
> It may be of some use in tracing the Chastain Family in France.
> ...
> There is a mixture of French and English, abbreviations, and misspellings.
I agree it is not good research, and we should never pass it out as
anything other than that. It may, however, provide the leads which
Bernard appears to be looking for in his request.
> > Who is able to tell me if he had brothers or sisters and if the latter
might
> > have stayed in France ? Do you know anything about the French
descendants of
> > Pierre chastain's father ? Could you give me information on the
1700-1800
> > period in France ? I've met a lot of difficulties to find any.
> > I thank you very much for your help.
> > Your distant cousin, Bernard Chastaing.
I doubt that Rev. James Garvin Chastain made the names up. He may have,
but this should not preclude someone in France checking to determine if
they are good or bad.
I don't think anyone considers them all to be our ancestors. Maybe one
or two of them are, and it would be good to know it.
I completely disagree with limiting any information regardless of the
source. I do feel that erroneous or unvalidated information should be
labeled, as such, and used accordingly. Bad information can sometimes
provide a lead to good information.
If Gerre Buland is the only one who should respond to queries such as
this, we need to know the rules.
Since this is an issue that should be discussed, in the open, among LIST
members, I am including them as addressees.
Have a nice day.
Charlie
LoyceC(a)aol.com wrote:
>
> Charles,
> You are using material from Rev. James Garvin Chastain's book (A Brief
> History of the Huguenots and Three Family Trees: Chastain, Lochridge,
> Stockton) and that book has too many errors in it to use as a reference.
Do
> not give this material to any one else. It has never been proven to be
> correct - only proved that it is wrong. Use the lineage for Pierre
Chastain
> out of our Vol. I of Pierre Chastain and His Descendants. Please do not
give
> information from Rev. Chastain's book again. It is WRONG!
>
> Our genealogist Gerre Buland should be the one to answer queries such as
this.
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Hi Loyce
In response to your letter quoted below, I think I prefaced the material
with sufficient disqualifiers.
> Most agree the following is almost useless.
> It certainly has not been validated / authenticated. The source is suspect.
> It was however based on something.
> If that documentation exists, I am sure many people would be interested.
> It may be of some use in tracing the Chastain Family in France.
> ...
> There is a mixture of French and English, abbreviations, and misspellings.
I agree it is not good research, and we should never pass it out as
anything other than that. It may, however, provide the leads which
Bernard appears to be looking for in his request.
> > Who is able to tell me if he had brothers or sisters and if the latter might
> > have stayed in France ? Do you know anything about the French descendants of
> > Pierre chastain's father ? Could you give me information on the 1700-1800
> > period in France ? I've met a lot of difficulties to find any.
> > I thank you very much for your help.
> > Your distant cousin, Bernard Chastaing.
I doubt that Rev. James Garvin Chastain made the names up. He may have,
but this should not preclude someone in France checking to determine if
they are good or bad.
I don't think anyone considers them all to be our ancestors. Maybe one
or two of them are, and it would be good to know it.
I completely disagree with limiting any information regardless of the
source. I do feel that erroneous or unvalidated information should be
labeled, as such, and used accordingly. Bad information can sometimes
provide a lead to good information.
If Gerre Buland is the only one who should respond to queries such as
this, we need to know the rules.
Since this is an issue that should be discussed, in the open, among LIST
members, I am including them as addressees.
Have a nice day.
Charlie
LoyceC(a)aol.com wrote:
>
> Charles,
> You are using material from Rev. James Garvin Chastain's book (A Brief
> History of the Huguenots and Three Family Trees: Chastain, Lochridge,
> Stockton) and that book has too many errors in it to use as a reference. Do
> not give this material to any one else. It has never been proven to be
> correct - only proved that it is wrong. Use the lineage for Pierre Chastain
> out of our Vol. I of Pierre Chastain and His Descendants. Please do not give
> information from Rev. Chastain's book again. It is WRONG!
>
> Our genealogist Gerre Buland should be the one to answer queries such as this.
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It is a old southern custom to name a son (or more modernly daughter) by
their mother's maiden name. Thus you will find names such as Harrison,
Bynum, Chasteen etc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Hbird14(a)aol.com <Hbird14(a)aol.com>
To: CHASTAIN-L(a)rootsweb.com <CHASTAIN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Friday, July 30, 1999 12:09 AM
Subject: [CHASTAIN-L] Chasteen as a First name
>I have been going through a lot of records in TN, NC, GA, SC, KY, VA lately
>and notice that there are a lot of surnames that have CHASTEEN as a first
>name. This is not a common name in and of itself. Does anyone have any
>ideas as to why this is?
>Just curious-
>Audri
>
>
>==== CHASTAIN Mailing List ====
>Many people will walk in and out of your life,
>But, only true friends will leave footprints in your heart.
>
>
I have been going through a lot of records in TN, NC, GA, SC, KY, VA lately
and notice that there are a lot of surnames that have CHASTEEN as a first
name. This is not a common name in and of itself. Does anyone have any
ideas as to why this is?
Just curious-
Audri
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Hi Barnard
Most agree the following is almost useless.
It certainly has not been validated / authenticated. The source is suspect.
It was however based on something.
If that documentation exists, I am sure many people would be interested.
It may be of some use in tracing the Chastain Family in France.
Sorry, the columns run together in an email. I tried to clean them up
and probably made a bigger mess. The wife's data, if available, follows
the husband's
You may need to put things back in order.
There is a mixture of French and English, abbreviations, and misspellings.
Good Luck !!!!
Charlie
1 Chateigner Lord de la Chate Abt 1084
2 Chateigner Abt 1120
3 Chateigner Abt 1150
4 Chateigner Jean (John)ChevalierSgr. de la Melle Abt 1180
5 Chateigner Gilbert Chevalier Abt 1210
6 Chateigner Jean (John); Sgr. de la Melle Abt. 1270
7 Chateigner Gilbert Chevalier Sgr. de la Melleraie et de Reaumur Abt. 1240 1318 Jeanne Barrabin
8 Chateign Simon Sir de St. Georges and of Rexe Abt. 1300 Letice de
la Guerche
10 Chateign Jean (John) Chevalier Lord of Reaumur Abt. 1330 Isabeau
Jousseraude of Gourville
11 Chastain Helie Lord of St. George Abt. 1360 1396 de la Rochefatou
12 Chastain Chevalier Abt. 1394
13 Chastain Pierre Chevalier Abt 1420 Jeanne de Varere
14 Chastain Geoffroi Chevalier Abt 1445 29 OCT 1492 Battle of
Patai Louise de Preuilly Abt. 1447
15 Chastain Gui Chevalier Abt 1480 Madelene Du Pui (Dupuy)
16 Chastain Jean (John) Abt. 1504 Claude de Monleon
17 Chastain Jean (John) Gentleman Abt 1538 6 Jan
1581 Poitier Jeanne de Villiers Abt. 1540
18 Chastain Francois Abt 1578 Louise de Foutlebou Abt 1580
Bernard wrote:
>
> Hello everybody !
> I'm French and I've been following the Chastain-list with much interest
> since April. I want to thank Ted from Jacksonville to have welcome me. I'm
> very happy to see that our name hasn't disappeared in the USA, although it
> has become quite rare in France.
> I haven't been able to take part in the list very actively for now, because
> my English is so bad. Nevertheless, I've still a question to which I've not
> found any answer : Indeed, I would like to establish the link between our
> family and the family of Pierre Chastain, who arrives first in the USA. Who
> is able to tell me if he had brothers or sisters and if the latter might
> have stayed in France ? Do you know anything about the French descendants of
> Pierre chastain's father ? Could you give me information on the 1700-1800
> period in France ? I've met a lot of difficulties to find any.
> I thank you very much for your help.
> Your distant cousin, Bernard Chastaing.
>
> ==== CHASTAIN Mailing List ====
> I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% how I react to it.
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Hello everybody !
I'm French and I've been following the Chastain-list with much interest
since April. I want to thank Ted from Jacksonville to have welcome me. I'm
very happy to see that our name hasn't disappeared in the USA, although it
has become quite rare in France.
I haven't been able to take part in the list very actively for now, because
my English is so bad. Nevertheless, I've still a question to which I've not
found any answer : Indeed, I would like to establish the link between our
family and the family of Pierre Chastain, who arrives first in the USA. Who
is able to tell me if he had brothers or sisters and if the latter might
have stayed in France ? Do you know anything about the French descendants of
Pierre chastain's father ? Could you give me information on the 1700-1800
period in France ? I've met a lot of difficulties to find any.
I thank you very much for your help.
Your distant cousin, Bernard Chastaing.
I think Wanda is not a subscriber so, if you have anything for her that you
post to the list you should send a Cc to her. CARLOS
From: Wconroy267(a)aol.com
To: Gerre OK
Hello,
I am looking for the ancestry of Susanne Chastain born about 1610/1615
in
France. She married Pierre Monnet, also born in France. Her father's name
is Isaac Chastain. That's all I have. No dates or places or mother's name.
Talk about a brick wall!
If you can help me on this I would greatly appreciate it. I have her
descendants from her son Pierre Monnet b.1630 in Poitou, France, d.1715 abt.
in London, Middlesex, England.
Thank you,
Wanda Conroy
Hi:
This message is for lagriffin @ mindspring (didn't sign a name).
Did you get a reply to your query below on Rene CHASTAIN. Rev. Rene
Chastain was my ancestor and I thought he was a cousin to the other Rene
Chastain...if you received an answer, would like to know what was written to
you...just for my clarification.
Thank you all....Jan (Chastain) Lund
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From: lagriffin(a)mindspring.com <lagriffin(a)mindspring.com>
To: CHASTAIN-L(a)rootsweb.com <CHASTAIN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Monday, July 26, 1999 9:47 AM
Subject: [CHASTAIN-L] Rene CHASTAIN, which one ?????
>While searching for more information on my CHASTAINs this weekend I came
across
>copies of 2 wills. 1 is Rev John "Ten Shilling Bell" and the other is a
mystery to me
>and I believe at the time to the person who wrote the book. "This Rene
Chastain was
>evidently a grandson of the emigrant pierre Chastain, and possibly a
brother to Rev. John
>Chatain, known as the Ten Shilling Bell" I do not have enough information
on this Rene
>to place him in my files. The first part talks about him, the person, the
second part is
>his will
>I am hoping that someone can give me the information to place him and his
family
>line in my files. Also I have input Rev John Chastain's will into my
records if anyone
>would like me to send it to them via email please email me at
lagriffin(a)mindspring.com
>This is from the book called THE HUGUENOT...Published By THE HUGUENOT
>SOCIETY founders of Manakin In the Colony of Virginia. Around the 1900's
>
>Part one...the person
>
>Elder Rene Chastain was born in powhatan County, Virginia on June 28, 1741.
>The Gospel was first carried to Muddy Creek by Jeremiah Walker, Rene
Chastain
>and others. T. Nargrett and Rene Chastain founded Wreck Island Baptist
Church in 1784
>with 45 members. Rene Chastain was the first pastor. Rene Chastain
founded Union Baptist
>Church (Appomattox Association) in 1786. He was the first pastor. Rene
Chastain
>served Buckingham Baptist Church. Rene Chastain was Moderator of the
Association.
>Buckingham, a mother church, in the county of the same name, is one of the
largest
>and most flourishing churches in the Appomattox Association. The first
successful
>preacher in these parts was Christopher Clarke. It was not long before Mr.
Chastain
>commenced preaching. He has been their pastor, their only one, from the
beginning.
>Surely no people need ask to be more blessed in a pastor. Under him the
church has
>prospered almost uniformly. If they have had their wintry state, from
which none are
>exempt, yet, under the prudent management of this venerable pastor, they
have not
>passed such serve conflicts as some other churches. Mr. Chastain is now an
old man
>and ripe for the crown that awaits him. As a preacher he is held in high
estimation for
>soundness, simplicity and usefulness. Buckingham church joined the
association in 1832.
>Elder Chastain continued their faithful pastor until 1825, having served
them for 53 years.
>His remains are in the family graveyard nearby, "with nothing over the
grave to mark the sacred
>spot."
>Wreck Island was first constituted at a place called Bent Creek in 1775.
But, neglecting
>discipline, they declined, until 1784. They were re-constituted at the
place called Wreck
>Island of Rock Island. Mr. Chastain then attended them statedly and they
prospered under his
>care.
>Elder Chastain was born in Powhatan County, Virginia, on June 28, 1741.
Most of his life
>was spent in Buckingham where he served the church of that name for more
than a half
>century. Cumberland, Providence and Mulberry Grove Churches also enjoyed,
at times,
>his ministerial supervision. Like many other early preachers, he was in
straitened circumstances,
>and much of his life spent between the plow handles. Stll when dying in
old age, he could say
>as his last utterance "I have made full proof of my ministry."
>
>Part two....His Will
>
>In the name of God Amen. I Rame Chastain of the State of South Carolina,
being in perfect
>sound mind and memory, do make and constitute and appoint this may last
will and testament
>in manner and form following, viz: principally I recommend my Soul to God
that gave it and
>my body to the earth, to be buried at the discretion of my executors,
hereafter named as to my
>worldly estate I dispose of it in the following manner:
> Item. I give and bequeath unto my son Peter Chastain, six negroes
named Jack, Charles, Bill,
>Frank, Rachel and Sam to him and his Heirs forever.
> Item. I give and bequeath unto Grandson (?) Chastain, one man names
Horace and horse to the
>value of ten pounds.
> Item. I give and bequeath unto my grandaughter Sarah Chastain, two
negroes one named Mary
>and one named Charity to her and heirs forever.
> Item. I give and bequeath unto my grandaughter Jane Chastain, one
negro named Mollie to them
>and theirs.
> Item. I give and bequeath unto my daughter Jude Winfree, one negro
named David at her
>disposal.
> Item. I give and bequeath unto my grandaughter Janie Winfree, two
negroes named Absolem and
>one named Nanne to her and heirs lawfully befotten of her body.
>In case any one of my daughter should die without an heir lawfully of her
body, the share to return to
>my son and daughter in Virginia, and what money to be raised out of my
household goods and horses,
>cattle and hogs, and all my tools must be sold for money giving one year
credit. The money so arising
>must be lent to my son Rame Chastain and Makinne to divide between.
> And I do constitute and ordain D. Leroy Hammond and Peter Chastain my
son to be my sole Executors
>of this my last will and testament.
> In
witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand
>
and fixed my seal the twenty-seventh of
>
January 1786.
>
RAME CHASTAIN. (Seal)
>In the presence of
> JOSEPH COLLIER
> CHASTAIN C. BUCKHALTER.
> Only two witnesses. Correct attest
> W. A. STEVENSON
> Probate Judge of
Abbeville County, S. C.
>
>
>
> W. A. STEVENSON
> Probate Judge of =
>Abbeville County, S. C.
>
>______________________________
Based on a letter that was just posted, I want to say to all of you that
everything that is posted goes into the archives and it is reasonably easy to
find postings. Especially if the letter has a definitive subject. If you
want to see that digest 126 click on this.
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Also, it would surely be nice if, when you post a letter addressed to some
individual you would state that person's full name and give some hint what
you are talking about. And sign your full name to the letter. We have over
200 people receiving our mail now and it is hard to know everyone by their
first names, and some of these e-mail addresses do not speak in a language
that is understandable.
lagriffin(a)mindspring.com wrote:
>
> While searching for more information on my CHASTAINs this weekend I came across
> copies of 2 wills. 1 is Rev John "Ten Shilling Bell" and the other is a mystery to me
> and I believe at the time to the person who wrote the book. "This Rene Chastain was
> evidently a grandson of the emigrant pierre Chastain, and possibly a brother to Rev. John
> Chatain, known as the Ten Shilling Bell" I do not have enough information on this Rene
> to place him in my files. The first part talks about him, the person, the second part is
> his will
> I am hoping that someone can give me the information to place him and his family
> line in my files. Also I have input Rev John Chastain's will into my records if anyone
> would like me to send it to them via email please email me at lagriffin(a)mindspring.com
> This is from the book called THE HUGUENOT...Published By THE HUGUENOT
> SOCIETY founders of Manakin In the Colony of Virginia. Around the 1900's
>
> Part one...the person
>
> Elder Rene Chastain was born in powhatan County, Virginia on June 28, 1741.
> The Gospel was first carried to Muddy Creek by Jeremiah Walker, Rene Chastain
> and others. T. Nargrett and Rene Chastain founded Wreck Island Baptist Church in 1784
> with 45 members. Rene Chastain was the first pastor. Rene Chastain founded Union Baptist
> Church (Appomattox Association) in 1786. He was the first pastor. Rene Chastain
> served Buckingham Baptist Church. Rene Chastain was Moderator of the Association.
> Buckingham, a mother church, in the county of the same name, is one of the largest
> and most flourishing churches in the Appomattox Association. The first successful
> preacher in these parts was Christopher Clarke. It was not long before Mr. Chastain
> commenced preaching. He has been their pastor, their only one, from the beginning.
> Surely no people need ask to be more blessed in a pastor. Under him the church has
> prospered almost uniformly. If they have had their wintry state, from which none are
> exempt, yet, under the prudent management of this venerable pastor, they have not
> passed such serve conflicts as some other churches. Mr. Chastain is now an old man
> and ripe for the crown that awaits him. As a preacher he is held in high estimation for
> soundness, simplicity and usefulness. Buckingham church joined the association in 1832.
> Elder Chastain continued their faithful pastor until 1825, having served them for 53 years.
> His remains are in the family graveyard nearby, "with nothing over the grave to mark the sacred
> spot."
> Wreck Island was first constituted at a place called Bent Creek in 1775. But, neglecting
> discipline, they declined, until 1784. They were re-constituted at the place called Wreck
> Island of Rock Island. Mr. Chastain then attended them statedly and they prospered under his
> care.
> Elder Chastain was born in Powhatan County, Virginia, on June 28, 1741. Most of his life
> was spent in Buckingham where he served the church of that name for more than a half
> century. Cumberland, Providence and Mulberry Grove Churches also enjoyed, at times,
> his ministerial supervision. Like many other early preachers, he was in straitened circumstances,
> and much of his life spent between the plow handles. Stll when dying in old age, he could say
> as his last utterance "I have made full proof of my ministry."
>
> Part two....His Will
>
> In the name of God Amen. I Rame Chastain of the State of South Carolina, being in perfect
> sound mind and memory, do make and constitute and appoint this may last will and testament
> in manner and form following, viz: principally I recommend my Soul to God that gave it and
> my body to the earth, to be buried at the discretion of my executors, hereafter named as to my
> worldly estate I dispose of it in the following manner:
> Item. I give and bequeath unto my son Peter Chastain, six negroes named Jack, Charles, Bill,
> Frank, Rachel and Sam to him and his Heirs forever.
> Item. I give and bequeath unto Grandson (?) Chastain, one man names Horace and horse to the
> value of ten pounds.
> Item. I give and bequeath unto my grandaughter Sarah Chastain, two negroes one named Mary
> and one named Charity to her and heirs forever.
> Item. I give and bequeath unto my grandaughter Jane Chastain, one negro named Mollie to them
> and theirs.
> Item. I give and bequeath unto my daughter Jude Winfree, one negro named David at her
> disposal.
> Item. I give and bequeath unto my grandaughter Janie Winfree, two negroes named Absolem and
> one named Nanne to her and heirs lawfully befotten of her body.
> In case any one of my daughter should die without an heir lawfully of her body, the share to return to
> my son and daughter in Virginia, and what money to be raised out of my household goods and horses,
> cattle and hogs, and all my tools must be sold for money giving one year credit. The money so arising
> must be lent to my son Rame Chastain and Makinne to divide between.
> And I do constitute and ordain D. Leroy Hammond and Peter Chastain my son to be my sole Executors
> of this my last will and testament.
> In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand
> and fixed my seal the twenty-seventh of
> January 1786.
> RAME CHASTAIN. (Seal)
> In the presence of
> JOSEPH COLLIER
> CHASTAIN C. BUCKHALTER.
The first Rene is a grandson of Pierre (and my gggg grandfather). He
pastored the Buckingham Baptist Church for some 53 years. That church
was still in operation when I attended a service there in 1995. The
second Rene (or "Rane") was his father, son of Pierre, who migrated to
S. Carolina.
John Marvin Chastain, editor, The Chestnut Tree
Only two witnesses. Correct attest
> W. A. STEVENSON
> Probate Judge of Abbeville County, S. C.
>
> W. A. STEVENSON
> Probate Judge of =
> Abbeville County, S. C.
>
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