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That's what I thought I remembered Dick. Samuel's father was Rev Thomas Chase who wasn't the brother of Aquila.
By the way I just realized this list on Rootsweb started 21 years ago in May. There's lots of information.
Lisa
From: rachase [mailto:rachase@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 5:19 PM
To: chase(a)rootsweb.com; Lisa Martin
Subject: Re: [CHASE] Re: Declaration of Independence Samuel Chase
The ancestry of Aquila and Thomas is unknown despite what you may find on too many family trees which obviously have just copied erroneous information from others. While many try to link them up to the Chase family of Gloucestershire or the Aquila Chase of London (who was from that family) the London one died there as did his son, Aquila. NO documentation about from where the brothers emigrated has ever been found, despite exhaustive searches by professional genealogists.
Dick Chase
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From: Smith <wjsmith(a)optonline.net>
Date: 10/15/19 4:42 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: chase(a)rootsweb.com, Lisa Martin <lrclevers(a)centurylink.net>
Subject: [CHASE] Re: Declaration of Independence Samuel Chase
I have not researhed it, but everybody on Worldconnect has his father Thomas listed as being born in England, in 1703, and married Matilda Walker, Samuel's mother, in America. Samuel was a committed Patriot, formed a Sons of Liberty chapter in Anne Arundel County, Maryland, so it's no surprise to hear that he was considered to be a dangerous customer, by the loyalists in his time and place.
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> I've had someone ask me if I knew which of the 2 brothers (Aquila or Thomas)
> Samuel Chase came from? I searched through the 7 generation book
> yesterday and didn't find this Samuel Chase.
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> I also searched the list archives and didn't find anything.
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I've had someone ask me if I knew which of the 2 brothers (Aquila or Thomas)
Samuel Chase came from? I searched through the 7 generation book
yesterday and didn't find this Samuel Chase.
I also searched the list archives and didn't find anything.
Any of you know that answer?
Lisa
Chase list Owner..
I'm forwarding this to the list you can contact Elizabeth @ knowltonew(a)earthlink.net Thanks
Nathan J. Chase was born 4 June 1822 in Guilderland, Albany Co., NY, the eldest surviving child of Chester Chase and Christiana Ulshoeffer, to be proved in this post.
Initially, I got nowhere with Whole Family Genealogy, the usual way to unravel genealogical problems. I knew Nathan had two cousins named Herrick, Martha and Horace, living with him in 1855 after his first wife, Sarah Ann Landrus, died, leaving him with a two-year old infant. Of course, cousin is a word that can be used very loosely, but I managed to prove with the help of census records that these cousins were the children of John Herrick and Lucinda Chase.
Lucinda Chase Herrick was the daughter of Job Chase of Albany Co., NY, whose will (1842) I had previously looked at with its long list of sons and daughters, but there was no mention of Nathan. IF cousin meant first cousin, then Nathan’s father was Lucinda’s brother. But even supposing that were true, it got me nowhere.
After I received the over 200 pages of Nathan’s pension application plus those of his second and third wives, Jane Elizabeth Wood and Narcissa Eveline Raper, from Washington, DC., I was able to learn that he had a brother named William Henry Chase (born Dec. 1828) who had moved to Syracuse. Although both widows often had details of Nathan’s relations and life quite wrong, some names were correct. I traced William Chase through every census plus his death and burial, still without finding the names of his parents. Narcissa spoke confidently of Nathan’s sisters, that one had reared Jane’s daughter Clara (even though census records showed mother and daughter together), and that their names had been Susan Herrick and Harriet Van Ogden.
I have not located Harriet as of this post, but the other sister turned out to be Susan Chase Van Auken. I located her and her siblings (with little detail) on an Ancestry tree of Van Aukens that showed Susannah Chase marrying Ira Van Auken in 1844 and moving to Oswego Co., NY, by 1855. Both she and her husband lived long lives and profited from the liberality of wealthier relatives. The tree’s owner directed me to the will of John P. Snyder, 27 May 1879, who had married Susannah Ulshoeffer and wrote in his will “unto my niece Susan Van Auken, wife of Ira Van Auken of Schroeppel, Oswego Co., NY, daughter of my late sister-in-law Christiana and her husband Chester Chase, the sum of Five hundred dollars.” [will proved 5 Feb 1886, Broome Co., NY]
Susan was also named in the earlier will of Thomas Ulshoeffer of Guilderland, Albany Co., NY, 21 May, 1840, where he left his estate to his wife Christiana and to his living sons and daughters. “I also give and bequeath unto my four grandchildren, viz. Nathan Chase, Susannah Chase, Harriet Chase, & William Chase, children of Chester Chase and of my late daughter Christiana Chase deceased.” It sounds as if Chester is still alive at that date, but I have not located him yet in the 1840 census.
The will was proved 28 April 1842 after Thomas Ulshoeffer’s son-in-law, the afore-mentioned John P. Snyder presented it to the court 23 Mar 1842, Thomas having died about 15 Dec 1841. Snyder identified Nathan Chase as living in Ticonderoga, Essex Co.; Susannah Marie and William Henry, in Guilderland, Albany Co.; and Harriet, in Knox, Albany Co, NY. At this date, Nathan would be not quite twenty and probably living in someone else’s household.
Returning to Job Chase who wrote his will on the 7 May 1842 and died 19 July 1842, I found his son Joshua M. Chase presented it to the Surrogate Court of Albany 1 Feb 1843: “leaving Lois Chase, his widow, Edward A. Chase, Reuben J. Chase, Lydia Brouk, wife of Matthias Brouk, Lucinda Herrick, wife of John Herrick, Mary Ann Beebe, wife of John T. Beebe, Hannah Chase, John L. Chase, and Joshua M. Chase living in the town of Knox in the county of Albany and Chester Chase living in the town of Hague in the county of Warren, all of full age, and Adaline Chase, residing in the town of Knox in the county of Albany, a minor, his only heirs at law and next of kin surviving . . . .” [will proved 20 Feb 1843]
What an embarrassment of riches! Searching only for the parents of Nathan J. Chase, I now had his grandparents and a great grandfather, Joshua Chase, born in Westerley, RI. But I leave it to you actual Chases to hook him up with the earlier New Englanders. I will send this new information on to my delightful new nephew-in-law, a total Southerner in all lines except these intriguing Chases.
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Elizabeth Knowlton
Atlanta, GA
knowltonew(a)earthlink.net