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Hi,
This caught my eye as I, too, am a descendant of James Chase, father to my ancestress, his first child, Bethany Chase who m. Joseph Chase and who named my great-great grandfather James after her own father.
The "Register 87" which Jeffrey mentions is Volume 87 of the New England Historic and Genealogical Register - which is the George Walter Chamberlain opus compiled for John Carroll Chase, "Some of the Descendants of William Chase of Roxbury and Yarmouth, Mass." Published January, 1933 and through 1934. Those notes are a copy of what is in Chamberlain's work.
Now, looking at the birth date of James in the Chamberlain work, it says "James, of Harwich, b. about 1761..." This would lead me to believe (because of the use of the word "about") that there is no actual birth record, and his birth year is based on other information and is an approximate guess.
It is interesting that none of Job's children by his first wife, Edith Bassett, were named Job as were none of his grandchildren by that wife. Job was the name of Job's first child by his 2nd wife Hope Sears Howes, and that Job's first son was also named Job. (That first set of children did use the names Edith and Bassett for their children).
My very, very great concern has always been that James, b. about 1761, had as his first child with wife Mercy Eldridge("Elbridge") whom he m. 17 April 1783, my great-great-great grandmother Bethany Chase b. 20 August 1783 ( yes, a "four-month" baby). Now, Bethany herself m. a cousin, Joseph Chase, 2 March, 1796. This means that Bethany was only 12 years old, five months away from being 13! Really? And Bethany and Joseph had no children for a year and a half after marriage - no shotgun marriage. Would it be possible to marry at such a young age? (I did discuss this with the late Burt Derrick on Cape Cod a well-known and respected researcher, and he assured me that this was correct, but I still am doubtful...)
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> On Dec 16, 2014, at 3:21 PM, Jeffrey Chace via <chase(a)rootsweb.com> wrote:
>
> Try top of the page on the left in the link below. I actually went to the
> Sturgis Library back in 2005 (beautiful library by the way) and viewed the
> following records in person. It's nice to see that someone has now scanned
> them in. Handwritten notes, with references to the Harwich VR. Supposed to
> be Register #87. See link below:
>
> https://archive.org/stream/genealogicalnote10brow#page/244/mode/2up
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeffrey Chace
> http://www.chace.demon.nl
> http://www.harrychase.org
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:10 PM, ROBT R THOMAS via <chase(a)rootsweb.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I am searching for proof that James Chase, b. 1761 was the son of Job
>> Chase (1736-1833). I find no birth record in Harwich VR.
>> Any help?
>>
>> Bob Thomas, descendant of William Chase
>>
I am searching for proof that James Chase, b. 1761 was the son of Job Chase (1736-1833). I find no birth record in Harwich VR.
Any help?
Bob Thomas, descendant of William Chase
Dick,
Absolutely no apologies needed!
Thanks for sharing so freely of your information on the Chase lines.
Your 'cousin',
Mike McIntier
On 12/10/2014 1:00 AM, chase-request(a)rootsweb.com wrote:
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re: Sarah (Sally) Chase b July 7, 1790 (CORRECTION)
> (Richard Chase)
>
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 13:55:34 -0500
> From: "Richard Chase" <rachase(a)triad.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [CHASE] Sarah (Sally) Chase b July 7, 1790 (CORRECTION)
> To: "'Mike McIntier'" <mmcintier(a)cox.net>, <chase(a)rootsweb.com>
> Message-ID: <007601d013e1$b6a99200$23fcb600$(a)rr.com>
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> MIke -- my profound apologies for sending an erroneous message in response
> to your query. I was trying to do two things at once, and obviously got
> confused.
>
> The CORRECT response is that the JOHN b.1655 that you show is the 7th child
> (3rd SON) of the initial (Hampton) AQUILA b. abt 1618. Chase/Chamberlain
> document the line down to your SARAH ("Sally" is not shown) as you have
> shown it in your post.
>
> Not sure just how I managed to insert John's brother, Aquila, into the line,
> but I caught it this morning when I happened to glance at what I posted.
>
> Dick Chase
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chase-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:chase-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
> Behalf Of Mike McIntier via
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 8:44 AM
> To: CHASE(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: [CHASE] Sarah (Sally) Chase b July 7, 1790
>
> Hello Everyone!
>
> Over the years I have researched my line of Chase ancestors beginning at
> Sarah (Sally) Chase, born July 7, 1790, married to Edward Whaley in
> Kingston, Rockingham, NH, abt Jan 1807. Several times I have come up with
> conflicting lines, so I have deleted and then re-added to the line several
> times.
>
> Any researchers out there that have been successful in establishing a _firm_
> line back a number of generations?
>
> The line that I am most comfortable with, but do not have solid proof of, is
> as follows:
>
> Sarah (Sally) Chase, b July 7, 1790, Haverhill, Essex, Massachusetts Jacob
> Chase, b Aug 4, 1754, Haverhill, Essex, Massachusetts Ebenezer Chase, b. Mar
> 27, 1729, Haverhill, Essex, Massachusetts Jacob Chase, d Sep 11, 1754,
> Haverhill, Essex, Massachusetts John Chase, b Nov 2, 1655, Newbury, Essex,
> Massachusetts Dead End!
>
> Thanks in advance and Happy Holidays to you all.
>
> Mike McIntier
>
>
>
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Hello Everyone!
Over the years I have researched my line of Chase ancestors beginning at
Sarah (Sally) Chase, born July 7, 1790, married to Edward Whaley in
Kingston, Rockingham, NH, abt Jan 1807. Several times I have come up
with conflicting lines, so I have deleted and then re-added to the line
several times.
Any researchers out there that have been successful in establishing a
_firm_ line back a number of generations?
The line that I am most comfortable with, but do not have solid proof
of, is as follows:
Sarah (Sally) Chase, b July 7, 1790, Haverhill, Essex, Massachusetts
Jacob Chase, b Aug 4, 1754, Haverhill, Essex, Massachusetts
Ebenezer Chase, b. Mar 27, 1729, Haverhill, Essex, Massachusetts
Jacob Chase, d Sep 11, 1754, Haverhill, Essex, Massachusetts
John Chase, b Nov 2, 1655, Newbury, Essex, Massachusetts
Dead End!
Thanks in advance and Happy Holidays to you all.
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Susan/Susannah married Obadiah Chase (1742-1799). Then she married
Joseph Cole (1745- 1816) as his second wife. What was her maiden name?
Both men were in the Revolutionary War.
Chase descendants tend to say that she was Susannah Knapp, but Joseph
Cole descendants tend to say that she was Susan Berry, the sister of
Joseph Cole's first wife, Rebecca Berry.
Is there any documentation which supports either of these alternatives?
All I have been able to find so far have just been in genealogies with
no supporting citation.
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
Sarah Clevenger
Hello,
Just curious if anyone on the List has a mystery regarding a CHASE or CHASE in the early 1900's. Are there families in the 1900's that you can't trace back to the 1800's? Or, to the 1700's?
I already mentioned earlier that I don't have the surname on my direct family-tree. But, my LEWIS grandfather's sister married a CHASE from Winchester, MA, in the very early 1900's. And, I just found out recently that a HUTCHINSON relative of my ancestors of Winchester, MA, who moved to NYC, married a CHASE from Cambridge, MA, and lived there.
And, do all of you have access to U.S. census records - one way or another? And, do all of you know that there is a lot more information available at www.familysearch.org now?
One note is that about a dozen researchers are no longer on the List - because they either changed their e-mail address and didn't notify RootsWeb, or no longer use the Internet. So, if you know anyone that is not receiving their Digests, those are probably the reasons.
Betty (near Lowell, MA)
List Administrator
The William Chase that is my line was born in WIVENHOE Essex England. From Parish records it appears his parents were also born there.
As there is a William Benjamin Chase born there which would fit The parent of William born about1597 William is also mentioned in list ofWinthrop who went to America with a patent , issued byJames 1st, to form the Mass. Bay company
best regards
Keith
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On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 5:53 PM GMT Richard Chase via wrote:
>Richard --
>
>The documemted references compiled by Chase/Chamberlain (Seven Generations
>of the Descendants of Thomas and Aquila Chase, 1928) of the Chases of
>Chesham from Thomas b. abt 1520 (and considered the patriarch of the Chesham
>Chase line) down through those born into the mid 1600's do not contain any
>individuals that match you reference to a William b. ~ 1621, nor the parents
>that you show for him (William b. abt 1589) nor their respective wives,
>Townley and Holder. Since the Chase/Chamberlain infromation is based on an
>apparent complete search through the Chesham Parish records for births,
>baptisms, marriages, burials, and wills during the above referenced period,
>the absence of any notations about the Williams and wives that you refer to
>in your post (or show on your web site) raises the question as to the source
>of your information. If you could provide that, it would be most helpful.
>
>What raises "suspicions" of course, is that for many years there were
>attempts by some genalogists to link the William of the Winthrop Fleet with
>the brothers Thomas and Aquila who show up in Hampton NH in 1638. (We still
>don't know where from those two emigrated, but the though by many was
>Chesham. Except there is no record of them there.) In both cases, some
>genealogies were constructed to support what the genealogists wanted, and
>data got manufactured to do that.
>
>Thanks for any clarifications you can add.
>
>Dick Chase
>
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>From: chase-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:chase-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
>Behalf Of Richard Hayes via
>Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 8:38 AM
>To: Judy Needham; chase(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [CHASE] Have you traced your CHASE ancestors back to 1600's ?
>
>Hi Judy,
>
>I have a William Chase who was born on 15 Jun 1621 in Chesham,
>Buckinghamshire, England. He is the son of William Chase and Mary Townley.
>He married Elizabeth Holder about 1640. They had 8 children. William died on
>27 Feb 1685 in
>Yarmouth, Barnstable County, MA. William also had a second wife named Mary.
>He married her about 1665.
>
>All of this information is on my website at
>http://www.angelfire.com/ga4/myhayes_family/
>
>Richard
>
>
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Richard --
The documemted references compiled by Chase/Chamberlain (Seven Generations
of the Descendants of Thomas and Aquila Chase, 1928) of the Chases of
Chesham from Thomas b. abt 1520 (and considered the patriarch of the Chesham
Chase line) down through those born into the mid 1600's do not contain any
individuals that match you reference to a William b. ~ 1621, nor the parents
that you show for him (William b. abt 1589) nor their respective wives,
Townley and Holder. Since the Chase/Chamberlain infromation is based on an
apparent complete search through the Chesham Parish records for births,
baptisms, marriages, burials, and wills during the above referenced period,
the absence of any notations about the Williams and wives that you refer to
in your post (or show on your web site) raises the question as to the source
of your information. If you could provide that, it would be most helpful.
What raises "suspicions" of course, is that for many years there were
attempts by some genalogists to link the William of the Winthrop Fleet with
the brothers Thomas and Aquila who show up in Hampton NH in 1638. (We still
don't know where from those two emigrated, but the though by many was
Chesham. Except there is no record of them there.) In both cases, some
genealogies were constructed to support what the genealogists wanted, and
data got manufactured to do that.
Thanks for any clarifications you can add.
Dick Chase
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From: chase-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:chase-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of Richard Hayes via
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 8:38 AM
To: Judy Needham; chase(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CHASE] Have you traced your CHASE ancestors back to 1600's ?
Hi Judy,
I have a William Chase who was born on 15 Jun 1621 in Chesham,
Buckinghamshire, England. He is the son of William Chase and Mary Townley.
He married Elizabeth Holder about 1640. They had 8 children. William died on
27 Feb 1685 in
Yarmouth, Barnstable County, MA. William also had a second wife named Mary.
He married her about 1665.
All of this information is on my website at
http://www.angelfire.com/ga4/myhayes_family/
Richard
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Hi,Richard, Some time ago you pointed me to what remains of my CHASE/CHACE website.While some of it has disappeared it does include both Chase and Chace and the CHASE part has Aquila ns Thomas in it/ Keep Well Richard and YES it would be good to see the Group active again. I am sure that there must now be others who might be able to contribute to itBest RegardsKeith Hume
On Friday, 5 December 2014, 17:12, Richard Chase via <chase(a)rootsweb.com> wrote:
A) I do hope the confusion about who is administrator will be amicably resolved. It would indeed be nice to have the list become active once again.
B) I have traced (documentation) my ancestry back to Aquila Chase who shows up in Hampton, Mass. Bay Colony, now NH, with his brother, Thomas, abt. 1638. Ancestry of the brothers has never (yet) been identified, altho there is considerable misinformation about their alleged ancestry floating about the Internet. I am one of about a dozen males who have had y-dna tested, and who all match, indicating Aquila as a common ancestor through a variety of his children, grandchildren, etc. The Chase dna project has yet to unearth a male who has traced his paternal ancestry back to Thomas, who we know is Aquila's brother from Hampton records. Such individual should have dna that matches us proven Aquila descendents.
Dick Chase
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From: chase-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:chase-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ms Betty Fredericks via
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 7:25 AM
To: chase(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CHASE] Have you traced your CHASE ancestors back to 1600's ?
Hello,
I have suggested to .Lisa. that she contact the "RootsWeb Support Team" and find out what the problem is with her "account."
In the meantime, one of the researchers said that, in general, there were 3 CHASE "immigrant ancestors," including 2 brothers. Have you tracked your line back to one of them? Or, did your CHASE ancestor arrive in the late 1600's or early 1700's?
Betty (near Lowell, MA)
(current) List Admin
(There is a "New England Genealogy" Group www.facebook.com and I've been posting about my ancestors there.I've been referring to my "patriarch" ancestor as the first one to arrive in North America in the 1600's. Researchers in that Group informed meI should be referring to my "immigrant ancestor.") (There are also genealogy Groups at www.google.com
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Over the many years this list has been on Rootsweb and the few years it was
on the other server we have researched and researched the 3 lines of Chase's
- Aquila, Thomas and William. However none of us have ever been able to get
them across the Atlantic. We have even lost a lot of our original
researchers may they RIP.
Oh yeah every year or so we get someone new on here quoting some of the
misinformation that's floating around the internet and those of us who are
direct lines have to set them straight. Or someone thinking we can get this
list rocking again, But till we are able to make the jump across the
Atlantic the list is not going to be the active list it once was.
All we can do now is add the newer Chase's and that's not much fun, not like
the fun we had in tracing back.
We even had a fun period of all the different males doing the DNA proving
the descendants of Aquila, sadly none of Thomas.. Didn't we also have 1 or 2
for the William Line? The fun we all had adding our info to Keith website
somewhere around here I have the DVD of all that info (I still have unpacked
boxes from my move in 2012).
I would so love to see the list be active again, but till we make a break
through it's not going to happen...
Lisa Martin
-----Original Message-----
From: chase-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:chase-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of Richard Chase via
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 11:57 AM
To: 'Ms Betty Fredericks'; chase(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CHASE] Have you traced your CHASE ancestors back to 1600's ?
A) I do hope the confusion about who is administrator will be amicably
resolved. It would indeed be nice to have the list become active once again.
B) I have traced (documentation) my ancestry back to Aquila Chase who shows
up in Hampton, Mass. Bay Colony, now NH, with his brother, Thomas, abt.
1638. Ancestry of the brothers has never (yet) been identified, altho there
is considerable misinformation about their alleged ancestry floating about
the Internet. I am one of about a dozen males who have had y-dna tested, and
who all match, indicating Aquila as a common ancestor through a variety of
his children, grandchildren, etc. The Chase dna project has yet to unearth a
male who has traced his paternal ancestry back to Thomas, who we know is
Aquila's brother from Hampton records. Such individual should have dna that
matches us proven Aquila descendents.
Dick Chase
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From: chase-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:chase-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of Ms Betty Fredericks via
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 7:25 AM
To: chase(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CHASE] Have you traced your CHASE ancestors back to 1600's ?
Hello,
I have suggested to .Lisa. that she contact the "RootsWeb Support Team" and
find out what the problem is with her "account."
In the meantime, one of the researchers said that, in general, there were 3
CHASE "immigrant ancestors," including 2 brothers. Have you tracked
your line back to one of them? Or, did your CHASE ancestor arrive in the
late 1600's or early 1700's?
Betty (near Lowell, MA)
(current) List Admin
(There is a "New England Genealogy" Group www.facebook.com and I've been
posting about my ancestors there.I've been referring to my "patriarch"
ancestor as the first one to arrive in North America in the 1600's.
Researchers in that Group informed meI should be referring to my "immigrant
ancestor.") (There are also genealogy Groups at www.google.com
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Hi,
I am a descendent of Aquila Chase and Anne Wheeler through their youngest son Daniel, then Isaac.
I wanted to pass on a couple of links for those interested.
The first one is to Hundridge Manor, Chesham, Buckinghamshire which some sources list as where Aquila and Thomas came from. I don't what their relationship to the family living there at the time was. It might be fun to do a rental there and research someday.
http://www.hundridge.com/
Also, a personal site that lists a Chase line going back to 1520 also in Chesham. Don't know the accuracy of this, but it looks a lot more accurate than some of the stuff I've seen.
http://home.comcast.net/~clandonald2/genealogy/history/chase_history.html
Aquila was known to be either a shipwright or a pilot and worked as a fisherman for the town of Newbury now Newburyport, Massachusetts.
Anne Wheeler, his wife , daughter of John and Anne came on The Mary and John in 1634. This list is probably accurate. It also lists her brother David Wheeler. David was later arrested with Aquila for "picking peas on the Sabbath". This is what resulted in Aquila "removing" to Newbury where he worked as a fisherman for the town until his death in 1670. I personally know this story to be true, because my grandmother told me the story of our ancestor. She knew only that he was a fisherman. That story came 300 years down to me.
Also, interested to note on this list is Anna( Eunice) Cole. She became famous later as the "Witch of Hampton". The link for her from this page is inaccurate. Goody Cole has been heavily researched and she is listed in other manifests as coming on the Mary and John in 1634.
http://www.geni.com/projects/Great-Migration-Passengers-of-the-Mary-John-...
Wiki site for Goody Cole.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eunice_Cole
It sometimes helps to research people around your ancestors to get a view of their lives.
Kathy Caslin
> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 12:38:20 +0000
> To: bbffrrpp(a)yahoo.com; chase(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [CHASE] Have you traced your CHASE ancestors back to 1600's ?
> From: chase(a)rootsweb.com
>
> Hi, Yes I have traced Wiilliam Chase back to Wivenhoe in Essex born about 1597,He went wirh Winthrop and is mentioned in his list. I hope I still have the my Gedcom with all this on it. I see Richard Chase has replied and he is the best organised researcher. I can send you MY line from William but it maybe in the form of plain text taken from my life history
> Regards Keith Hume
>
> On Tuesday, 2 December 2014, 12:25, Ms Betty Fredericks via <chase(a)rootsweb.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
> I have suggested to .Lisa. that she contact the "RootsWeb Support Team" and find out what the problem is with her "account."
> In the meantime, one of the researchers said that, in general, there were 3 CHASE "immigrant ancestors," including 2 brothers. Have you tracked your line back to one of them? Or, did your CHASE ancestor arrive in the late 1600's or early 1700's?
> Betty (near Lowell, MA)
> (current) List Admin
>
> (There is a "New England Genealogy" Group www.facebook.com
> and I've been posting about my ancestors there.I've been referring to my "patriarch" ancestor as the first one to arrive in North America in the 1600's. Researchers in that Group informed meI should be referring to my "immigrant ancestor.")
> (There are also genealogy Groups at
> www.google.com
>
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Hello,
I have suggested to .Lisa. that she contact the "RootsWeb Support Team" and find out what the problem is with her "account."
In the meantime, one of the researchers said that, in general, there were 3 CHASE "immigrant ancestors," including 2 brothers. Have you tracked your line back to one of them? Or, did your CHASE ancestor arrive in the late 1600's or early 1700's?
Betty (near Lowell, MA)
(current) List Admin
(There is a "New England Genealogy" Group www.facebook.com
and I've been posting about my ancestors there.I've been referring to my "patriarch" ancestor as the first one to arrive in North America in the 1600's. Researchers in that Group informed meI should be referring to my "immigrant ancestor.")
(There are also genealogy Groups at
www.google.com