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There is no help for us ..alas.
It would seem that William Chase of Cape Cod fame (he died there in 1659)
had no connection to Chesham was not married to Elizabeth Holder Chase.
There's some lore he was married to Mary Townley although this has been
disproved and debunked baseed on her age.
Broad strains of CHASE i America are (a) William of Cape cod, and (b) Aquila
of Newberry along with his bro (c) THomas of Newberry
others came and went.
we need CSI and DNA evidence....
but I figure when the Roman empire was in Great Britain, before King
Arthur... before Uther Pendragon, when Druids roamed the land , Chases
probably weren't there yet.
I am not the person who can supply "chapter and verse" but from this point
forward your friends on the Chase list will weigh in I am sure.
Derek
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Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 11:55 PM
Subject: [CHASE] My Chase Line Mystery
>
> It Starts out with John Round born 1645 in Swansea, Ma who married
> Elizabeth Holder Chase who was born 1650 in Swansea. Her parents are
> listed as William Chase born 15 Jul 1621 in Chesham, Eng. and Elizabeth
> Holder.
Almost forgot:? William Chase 2 had a daughter Elizabeth b. abt 1650?but she married Daniel Baker of Yarmouth.
Oliver Chase, son of Jacob and Mary (Hall) Chase, married Priscilla Round of Swansea, daughter of John Round and Elizabeth ?
There were several other Chase/Round marriages but none as early as you've indicated.
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To: chase(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 12:41 pm
Subject: Re: [CHASE] My Chase Line Mystery
William Chase b. abt 1595 in England (specific location debatable) m. Mary ?
William Chase b. in England before 1627 (maybe as early as 1621 or 1622) married
twice, possibly a Mary and an Elizabeth.? It is believed that he had 4 children
by each wife. Son Jacob probably from the first wife Mary.
Jacob Chase b. Yarmouth, MA abt 1647, m. Mary Hall
Samuel Chase b. Swansea, MA abt 1670, m. twice, Mary (Bourne) Vose and Sarah
Vose, 3 children by Mary (Mary, Elizabeth, Martha)?and 5 by Sarah (Samuel,
Jacob, Phebe, Benjamin and David)
Hope this helps.
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Sent: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 7:55 pm
Subject: [CHASE] My Chase Line Mystery
I have a problem with my Chase Line, I don't know what to make of it.
My first encounter with the Chase Line starts with
Samuel Chase who married 31 Dec. 1730 to Sarah Vose
His parents were Jacob Chase and Mary Hall
Jacob was born in 1646 in Yarmouth, Ma
His father was William Chase born 15 Jul 1621 in Sussex, Eng and he
married Abigail Hale.
The next time the Chase line surfaces in my family goes like this
It Starts out with John Round born 1645 in Swansea, Ma who married
Elizabeth Holder Chase who was born 1650 in Swansea. Her parents are
listed as William Chase born 15 Jul 1621 in Chesham, Eng. and Elizabeth
Holder.
Which is correct. Can you help me figure this out. I have been told that
the Chase line has nothing to do with Chesham, Eng
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William Chase b. abt 1595 in England (specific location debatable) m. Mary ?
William Chase b. in England before 1627 (maybe as early as 1621 or 1622) married twice, possibly a Mary and an Elizabeth.? It is believed that he had 4 children by each wife. Son Jacob probably from the first wife Mary.
Jacob Chase b. Yarmouth, MA abt 1647, m. Mary Hall
Samuel Chase b. Swansea, MA abt 1670, m. twice, Mary (Bourne) Vose and Sarah Vose, 3 children by Mary (Mary, Elizabeth, Martha)?and 5 by Sarah (Samuel, Jacob, Phebe, Benjamin and David)
Hope this helps.
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Sent: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 7:55 pm
Subject: [CHASE] My Chase Line Mystery
I have a problem with my Chase Line, I don't know what to make of it.
My first encounter with the Chase Line starts with
Samuel Chase who married 31 Dec. 1730 to Sarah Vose
His parents were Jacob Chase and Mary Hall
Jacob was born in 1646 in Yarmouth, Ma
His father was William Chase born 15 Jul 1621 in Sussex, Eng and he
married Abigail Hale.
The next time the Chase line surfaces in my family goes like this
It Starts out with John Round born 1645 in Swansea, Ma who married
Elizabeth Holder Chase who was born 1650 in Swansea. Her parents are
listed as William Chase born 15 Jul 1621 in Chesham, Eng. and Elizabeth
Holder.
Which is correct. Can you help me figure this out. I have been told that
the Chase line has nothing to do with Chesham, Eng
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>From NEHGR V. 87, page 50;
"William Chase, of Yarmouth, born in England as early as 1627, died at Yarmaouth 27 Feb 1684/5. He married first, about 1644 _______; and secondly _______. It has been said that he had four children by each wife, and his second wife as Elizabeth Holder. One Christopher Holder of Olveston, County Gloucester, England, came to Boston in 1656, but, since he espoused the views of the Quackers, he was banished in 1659 and fled to Newport, RI. He married, 12 Aug, 1660, Mary Scott. Amopung his nine children born at Newport was Elizabeth Holder, born 4 Jan 1664/5, who, when William Chase died, would have been barely twenty years of age. As has been claimed the the four youngest children of William Chase were born of his second wife, and as the eldest of these four children sold land in Harwich in 1695 and therefore must have been born as early as 1674, when Elizabeth Holder was only ten years old, it is impossible for her to have been the second wife of William
Chase. No othjer Holder family has been foumd in New England before 1700."
Bob Thomas
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From: genelink_11(a)verizon.net <genelink_11(a)verizon.net>
Subject: [CHASE] My Chase Line Mystery
To: chase(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 9:55 PM
I have a problem with my Chase Line, I don't know what to make of it.
My first encounter with the Chase Line starts with
Samuel Chase who married 31 Dec. 1730 to Sarah Vose
His parents were Jacob Chase and Mary Hall
Jacob was born in 1646 in Yarmouth, Ma
His father was William Chase born 15 Jul 1621 in Sussex, Eng and he
married Abigail Hale.
The next time the Chase line surfaces in my family goes like this
It Starts out with John Round born 1645 in Swansea, Ma who married
Elizabeth Holder Chase who was born 1650 in Swansea. Her parents are
listed as William Chase born 15 Jul 1621 in Chesham, Eng. and Elizabeth
Holder.
Which is correct. Can you help me figure this out. I have been told that
the Chase line has nothing to do with Chesham, Eng
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I have a problem with my Chase Line, I don't know what to make of it.
My first encounter with the Chase Line starts with
Samuel Chase who married 31 Dec. 1730 to Sarah Vose
His parents were Jacob Chase and Mary Hall
Jacob was born in 1646 in Yarmouth, Ma
His father was William Chase born 15 Jul 1621 in Sussex, Eng and he
married Abigail Hale.
The next time the Chase line surfaces in my family goes like this
It Starts out with John Round born 1645 in Swansea, Ma who married
Elizabeth Holder Chase who was born 1650 in Swansea. Her parents are
listed as William Chase born 15 Jul 1621 in Chesham, Eng. and Elizabeth
Holder.
Which is correct. Can you help me figure this out. I have been told that
the Chase line has nothing to do with Chesham, Eng
Jeffery
I'm confused. Chace begat Chase? Tom Hudson
> From: chase-request(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: CHASE Digest, Vol 3, Issue 81
> To: chase(a)rootsweb.com
> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:01:16 -0700
>
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re: Wivenhoe (Jim Chase)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:29:45 -0800
> From: "Jim Chase" <jchase(a)dc.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [CHASE] Wivenhoe
> To: <chase(a)rootsweb.com>
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> Thanks for sharing Jeffrey. Those old homes have a lot of character - they
> are great.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chase-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:chase-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
> Behalf Of Jeffrey Chace
> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 5:30 AM
> To: chase(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: [CHASE] Wivenhoe
>
> Hello All,
> Last week I was in London for a training course and I stayed over for the
> weekend. As much evidence and several researchers have indicated Wivenhoe in
> Essex as the origin of William Chase, I finally had a chance to journey
> there and see what it was like. I didn't really know what to expect and
> actually just thought it would be interesting to visit the same area where
> William probably came from before he left for America in 1630. (If you would
> like to see my arguments for William having been from Wivenhoe, go to my
> website at http://www.chace.demon.nl/ and click on the link on the
> right-hand page which is entitled "From where in Blighty did he originate?")
> On my way to Wivenhoe, I figured that there would not be much evidence of
> those ancient days when William could have walked the village in his
> day-to-day life.
>
> How wrong I was.
>
> There are at least a dozen buildings in Wivenhoe which date from around the
> second half of the 1500s. The buildings have such names as Nonesuch House,
> The Falcon, and Black Buoy Pub and are located in the area of Wivenhoe down
> near the Quay and just under St. Mary's Church. How do I know that they are
> from this period and that it is possible that William Chase would have known
> these buildings? I stopped by the library in Wivenhoe (on the High Street)
> and read a bit about the history of Wivenhoe. One of the books, The Story of
> Wivenhoe, by Nicholas Butler, listed the buildings from this era
> specifically and seeing that the street names are still the same today as
> they were in the 1500s, it was easy to find them. In fact, the book
> indicated that if a person living in modern Wivenhoe were transported back
> the 16th century, he would readily recognise the oldest part of the village
> and be able to orient himself quite easily. Also, one of the sets of
> buildings on the High Street has a sign painted on one side which reads
> "Built in 1566." And in fact, one group of buildings at 84-90 High Street
> was even built as early as the 1400s.
>
> So, there is plenty to see which may have been part of the actual milieu of
> the ancient Chaces of Wivenhoe. And, although we cannot say for certain that
> William came from Wivenhoe, we can say without hesitation, that his supposed
> father, Benjamin Chace was from Wivenhoe and was a licensed Alehouse Keeper.
> According to Boyd's Marriage index for Essex, Benjamin Chace and Helen
> Harvey were married in Wivenhoe in 1591. A William Chase born to them on 20
> November 1597, and this is the person believed to be our William, the
> immigrant.
>
> Wivenhoe is a charming little village with a small harbor on the River
> Colne. In years long gone, Wivenhoe was a center of ship building.
> Interestingly, one of the English ships, The Volante, which sailed in the
> first America's Cup in 1851, was built by Wivenhoe natives, Thomas Harvey
> and his son Thomas (perhaps relations of Helen Harvey above?). Nowadays
> there are still ships moored at Wivenhoe Quay, but they are all of the small
> pleasure sort of ships and not the commercial vehicles of the past or the
> giant yachts. I was quite enchanted with Wivenhoe and the people I met at
> the Black Buoy were all interesting and friendly characters. I felt very
> welcome and they all seemed eager to hear my stories of William Chase. To my
> great honor, one of the frequenters of the Black Buoy was the proprietor of
> a Bed and Breakfast on Anchor Hill and offered me a room for the evening
> free of charge. Of course I accepted.
>
> But, enough of my description of the village. Why don't you just see for
> yourself? Below is a link to the photos that I took while I was there, and I
> have placed some captions underneath each giving information about the
> location. However unlikely it is, it's still fun to think that one of these
> buildings may have been Benjamin Chace's Alehouse.
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/j.b.chace/Wivenhoe?authkey=LK6oAZb9JOA#
>
> If that link doesn't work for you, try this:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/5sjxu9
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeffrey
>
> --
> Jeffrey Chace
> http://www.chace.demon.nl
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