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Open reply.
I will not comment other than to say your description of my worth to this
group is somewhat exaggerated.
Long agi I learnt all the Pertinent knowledge I neesded from this group but
by then I was heavily involved. So excepting a few breaks I stayed on.
I believe my leaving may be a good thing in some respects as now someone
else can see if they can really get this group to pull together and resolve
the difficulties as the origins of Aquila, Thomas and William.
On many occasions I have made my views known as to where the Group should
look. I have also asked what evidence would satisfy ALL parties.
I have suggested places to look but is anyone listening?
Why no one anyone tell me? Without knowing the form evidence of Origin is
acceptable in how can you even start looking?
I leave this list tomorrow although it may be Monday as I have just
arranged to meet jeffry Chase and his parents in London tomorrow for lunch
so things I intended to do will have to wait a day,
Keith Hume, Bexleyheath,England
CHASE/CHACE web page http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edie Palmer" <serenade(a)tds.net>
To: <CHASE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 4:18 PM
Subject: [CHASE-L] Open letter to Keith
> Keith,
> Perhaps I should apologize to everyone for posting my list - as
> that seems to be what started this whole mess - but I don't think I
will.
> After sitting back and reading all the other posts, it sounds as if it was
> time to get a few things out in the open. Especially the fact that I have
> not been the only one to receive chastising e-mails for daring to put down
> the information that we have - right or wrong! Although it may be
> painful, there are times you need to open a festering wound and drain it
so
> that it can heal properly. I will, however, apologize to you as it
seems
> you have borne the brunt of this verbal fiasco!
>
>
> I am sorry to see you leave the group. I think I have been a member
for
> about 2 years now and during that time I have seen that you are the back
> bone of this group. There are others who have contributed a lot of
> information - Lonnie & the Chase Chronicles for one - Jeffery and all the
> information he has passed to the group, for another - but it is you who
has
> been the glue. You took all the information that has been contributed and
> put together the CD ROM and now this map project. I belong to several
> other lists and have yet to see one person work so hard to make all the
> information easily available to the list members and anyone else who
happens
> along that shares our name.
>
> I also thought about leaving the group but have changed my mind. My
> purpose in joining was to further my knowledge of my ancestors. WHAT
WILL
> I DO WITH THE INFORMATION??? At present I am compiling all information
I
> can find on my son's ancestors (including my ex's family) and sharing it
> with him so that he can take pride in where he came from and hopefully my
> information will instill pride in generations to come. This is a personal
> project - not one to be published - and no doubt it will take me the rest
of
> my life to complete, but I feel it will be well worth my time and efforts.
>
> I do a lot of sitting back and reading the posts because I don't have
a
> lot of information to share myself, but I sure do enjoy reading what
others
> post - especially the stories that make our ancestors come alive. I will
> post when I have something to say - be it right or wrong. If anyone wants
> to chastise me for expressing my opinion - so be it - but do it "on the
> list" - where others may benefit from the "discussion".
>
> Keith - I really do wish you'd change your mind and stay. I know you
> have been hurt by someone on the list, but that was only one person here.
> The rest of us will be tremendously hurt by your absence. If you can,
> picture me on my knees with a "poor puppy" look on my face, begging
"Please
> DO NOT leave us!!!" And I think you would have the honor of being the
> first man I've ever begged on my knees to! LOL!!!
> Most sincerely, Cousin Edie
>
>
>
Over the last week I have been surprised at some of the emails I have
received supporting me.
However I must point out that what finally upset me was a comment regarding
my comment about the heading of an email.
When I made the comment I did not fully appreciate where the original email
heading had come from as it was from a copy of it sent to me under a
different heading of "When it comes to correctness"
Instead of me commenting to the list I should have told the person who sent
it to me to do it but as I considered that they were correct in pointing out
the "error" in the "offending" email I did it myself.
A point we should all remember is that made by Lisa
"I've seen people sit back and not post anything about their lines, yet
> > they will tell another that their info's wrong. However when asked to
> > prove it they can't they have no documents to prove what they think is
> > right. Then you ask where did you get your info, usually they got it
> > from someone else. As a test I posted some false info on my website
> > with in a month I had people say the false info was true. Pretty
> > sad.."
Apart from the hundreds who we never hear from,in addition however I feel
we should recognise that those who feel passionatey. about their family
history are also contributors to this group and at least they do take part.
It was from one of the BIGGEST contributors to this list that there has
ever been that finally upset me.
I say finally because,like water dripping on a stone, I was finally worn
down
I have to confess that without all the "flak" flying around I would have
simply replied and left it at that.
Also I was really stupid in making this business public because now | have
been responsible for upsetting so many people, which I had no intention of
doing.
PLEASE,remember this was a personal thing between me and another. I was
wrong to drag others into it although I have not changed my intention of
leaving the Group.
I would remind you I am doing this more to avoid getting involved in "rows"
that should never really happened.
than for any other reason except one. That reason is the apparent lack of
people becoming involved in contributing towards making more and more
information available so that new subscribers could look at this list and
say "This is one of the BEST!"
So how about some UNDERSTANDING in the Group.?
How about the 2 major Groups getting into a dialogue about how to find if
the truth of their origins can be discovered. It may cost a few dollars but
it can be done?
Keith Hume, Bexleyheath,England
CHASE/CHACE web page http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barb and Don" <ace3399(a)msn.com>
To: <CHASE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [CHASE-L] From List owner
> I must say I wholeheartedly agree to put it mildly............You, Lisa,
and
> Keith are certainly right in my opinion..............SOME PEOPLE HAVE TO
> TAKE A CHILL PILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.........before too many more on this list
> are offended and/or leave. Then ALL this will have practically been for
> naught!!!!!!!!!!! This would be far more than a shame to put it
> mildly.....! I could quote your whole message but I think that it
> definitely makes the point abundantly clear.
>
> It is very sad to see such valuable members leave like Keith and others
who
> have contributed SO MUCH and HELPED SO MANY leave the list. I have been
> extremely thankful for the help given me and very happy that I could help
3
> others tie into my line.... One I gave the whole genealogy fr. Wm1) on
down
> and he was thrilled..... I thought that's what this was all about. AM I
> MISSING SOMETHING HERE???????
>
> Keith, your Image Map has made the possibility of finding our ties so much
> easier and given us an idea of where we might be welcome for a cup of tea
or
> coffee.............and possibly come up with more tie-ins with our lines.
I
> THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS WHAT THIS LIST WAS ALL
ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????
>
> Unfortunately, I made the mistake of sending the Aspartame email for which
I
> APOLOGIZED. As I stated, I only wanted to help the list. I thought
> EVERYONE knew of the controversy about it...........the reason why I
didn't
> bother checking out the HOAX site..... FYI, many wrote me and thanked me
> for the info........
>
> Then there was the supposedly racial, etc., email. I do not believe that
> one was in any way meant to be taken that way.......! I notice that you,
> Lisa , apparently did not perceive it as meant that way
> either...........since you stated you had not seen anything of that
nature.
> I thought it was only meant to be a joking reply to our Texan cuz........!
> The writer was a retired military man. Military people are especially
proud
> Americans and have the right to be...........I think he was stating he was
> proud of his heritage "White Anglo-Saxon Protestant" or WASP as it is
> commonly called in the USA. Had his heritage been different, I'm sure he
> would have written that................so it was not meant to be a slur
> against any person........! We must remember that the American language
is
> not quite as exacting and genteel as our British
> friends..................AND what better friends and allies do we have
than
> the British and Canadians????????
>
> Furthermore.........some American businessmen can be rather brash without
> even realizing it. They think this list works like an American
> industry...........and need to remember that.......in being on this list
> ........you are in another element whose objective is to help our cousins
> while being tolerant of their views, etc.........
>
> Finally, now we have people leaving the list as they do not want to see
this
> attitude much less have it aimed at them. I truly feel an apology to
Keith
> is in order and it wouldn't hurt to aplogize to the list in general!
LET'S
> GET THIS LIST BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS!!!!!!!!!! We all know it won't be
the
> same without Keith and other longtime members..........!
> Keith............and all..........please STAY!!!
>
> This is my humble suggestion!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Barb Chase Thompson
> ace3399(a)msn.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <lclevers(a)bellsouth.net>
> To: <CHASE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:40 PM
> Subject: [CHASE-L] From List owner
>
>
> > I'm sorry I haven't been keep an eye on the list lately, I've been
> > dealing with sick parents for a month now and just today my father when
> > thru a quad bypass. As of today I'm going to attach the signature lines
> > to bottom of messages so that members can remember how to unsubscribe,
> > instead of getting an attitude cause I can't get to it too their
> > satisfaction.
> >
> >
> > I agree with Keith, there are some member on this list that need to take
> > a chill pill, cause to be blunt the attitude stinks. When you write a
> > message either to the list or directly to a member, reread the message
> > and see if it could be taken as rude. Don't demand things of others.
> >
> > Yea I know my attitude stinks today and I sorry but one I'm having a
> > hard day and two I'm really pissed that I'm losing some really
> > beneficial members of this list. Why? all cause some really stinky
> > attitudes of members on this list. You know what I've been on the
> > internet since 1996 I really loved it then, but not so much any more.
> > Why You ask? Cause in the pass couple of years I see mostly people who
> > take take take and don't give in return. I've had people write me
> > demanding I send them my information. NOT I delete their messages.
> > I've seen people sit back and not post anything about their lines, yet
> > they will tell another that their info's wrong. However when asked to
> > prove it they can't they have no documents to prove what they think is
> > right. Then you ask where did you get your info, usually they got it
> > from someone else. As a test I posted some false info on my website
> > with in a month I had people say the false info was true. Pretty
> > sad...
> >
> > Oh well that's my say, and like I said earlier I'm sure some of you will
> > think me rude and I'm sorry but so be it. This needed to be said for
> > sometime. If you have a problem with it write me personally not the
> > list.
> >
> > Lisa Cleversey Martin
> > List-Owner
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Hi, This is NOT to start an "intelligence" war; however if folks find
things different from their experience, I welcome additions.
And my terminology is based on the Eastern part of the US of A, for that is
what I know.
( May the PEACE
which is intended for this season be with us ecclesiastical and secular
regardless of the credences we individually hold.
Thank You. Harriet M. Chase, Drinking ICED tea in Randolph, Vermont)
There are various sources from which the lDS, commonly know as Mormon, get
their data:
1) Actual filming of the Vital records: town, state, churches, parishes,
wherever! etc.
These should be as accurate as one can get: see note in regards to
"original" records.
These in fact are quite possible easier to read in that many were filmed
years ago before
the records detoriated as they might be now.
There also can be gaps in such films, because their are gaps in the actual
records.
2) That which you see on familysearch.org is another thing:
When the genealogy first started, the LDS submitted "any" surname which
matched theirs.
this is especially true in the IGI section. For example, my grandfather,
Myron Chase, in one entry
is listed related to "Ira Stearns Hatch", well not true. Though he married a
Hatch, she was of a
totally different Hatch family.
On some of other formats, say Pedigree and there is a person with contact
listed,
it is up to the SEARCHER to verify.
One person whose submissions I have seen, I trust quite fully based on my
"knowing" her.
It is not the responsibility of the LDS church to verify the information
submitted to them.
However, it is my understanding the "most" LDS have taken classes in
genealogy,
including proper documentation.
At one time I also know that they could only submit only their direct line.
3) NAME EXTRACTION Program
The Ellis Island data is a product of this:
As close as 1 1/2 years this is how the process went:
An extractor (and think about the meaning of that word) from a copy of the
original records, enters the data on individual cards. It is written as is,
with no assumptions being made.
A second person checks that work.
Then it is entered into the computer, with a person checking that work, with
the system
it being impossible for them to just look at it & say "oh that is OK"
This process continues until there are seven checks before the information
is posted.
ORIGINAL CIVIC Records:
In some town records I have seen the Original slips of paper,which have just
surfaced from a house!
(often in the very early days
stuff was kept in houses) which has been transcribed into the Vital Records.
I have also seen in the local records a family's data all on one page and
quite
apparent the stuff was written there at the same time...... again
opportunity for mistakes.
VERMONT STATE records,
at on time "all" town clerks were instructed submit the information they
had.
For the most part this was transcribed onto 3x5 cards. DRAW your own
conclusions.
However: I have seen information at the state level that is NOT at the town
records and vice versa.
Enuff! for now, Harriet
Clear DayWhile browsing E-bay I came across a listing for an 1891
CHASE-COOMBS family bible. In the description it gave the following
information:
Albert S. Chase & Addie M. Coombs married 17 June, 1902 in Somerville MA
The item number is 1972853077.
I also found another listing for a map of Camp Chase, OH. If anyone is
connected there the item number is 739811657.
For any one unfamiliar with searching on E-Bay go to the site www.ebay.com
find advanced search and search by the item number.
Keith,
Perhaps I should apologize to everyone for posting my list - as
that seems to be what started this whole mess - but I don't think I will.
After sitting back and reading all the other posts, it sounds as if it was
time to get a few things out in the open. Especially the fact that I have
not been the only one to receive chastising e-mails for daring to put down
the information that we have - right or wrong! Although it may be
painful, there are times you need to open a festering wound and drain it so
that it can heal properly. I will, however, apologize to you as it seems
you have borne the brunt of this verbal fiasco!
I am sorry to see you leave the group. I think I have been a member for
about 2 years now and during that time I have seen that you are the back
bone of this group. There are others who have contributed a lot of
information - Lonnie & the Chase Chronicles for one - Jeffery and all the
information he has passed to the group, for another - but it is you who has
been the glue. You took all the information that has been contributed and
put together the CD ROM and now this map project. I belong to several
other lists and have yet to see one person work so hard to make all the
information easily available to the list members and anyone else who happens
along that shares our name.
I also thought about leaving the group but have changed my mind. My
purpose in joining was to further my knowledge of my ancestors. WHAT WILL
I DO WITH THE INFORMATION??? At present I am compiling all information I
can find on my son's ancestors (including my ex's family) and sharing it
with him so that he can take pride in where he came from and hopefully my
information will instill pride in generations to come. This is a personal
project - not one to be published - and no doubt it will take me the rest of
my life to complete, but I feel it will be well worth my time and efforts.
I do a lot of sitting back and reading the posts because I don't have a
lot of information to share myself, but I sure do enjoy reading what others
post - especially the stories that make our ancestors come alive. I will
post when I have something to say - be it right or wrong. If anyone wants
to chastise me for expressing my opinion - so be it - but do it "on the
list" - where others may benefit from the "discussion".
Keith - I really do wish you'd change your mind and stay. I know you
have been hurt by someone on the list, but that was only one person here.
The rest of us will be tremendously hurt by your absence. If you can,
picture me on my knees with a "poor puppy" look on my face, begging "Please
DO NOT leave us!!!" And I think you would have the honor of being the
first man I've ever begged on my knees to! LOL!!!
Most sincerely, Cousin Edie
Hey there my Tex Cuz..........and all the others too.......,
First............WHEW..........shore glad u put that hangin rope AWAY!!!!
LOL........
Yep,that banter btn. you 2 cuz's was REALLY funny .......AND we need a laugh
or 2 sometimes!!!!!!! Least, I know I do........! That's why maybe we ALL
need to take a chill pill...........and enjoy our relationships while the
sun shines!!!!Let's face it, we are all different........and if we weren't
......a pretty BORING world it would be............!!!!!!
AND........let me say right now, I didn't mean to upset anyone this
mornin.......just wanted to point out that fact. If I offended
anyone,,,,,,,,,,I apologize.........!
Now......when I come visit you cuz, I like my tea coldddd in Texas, my
coffee too, and don't you forget to put on the ole Tex
barb-e-que!!!!!!!!!!!
Your everlovin cuz,
Barb
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kit Chase" <kittom(a)swbell.net>
To: <CHASE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 9:00 AM
Subject: [CHASE-L] The Tex Cuz
> Hey Cousins,
> Just to set the record straight, I did not view the reply I got from my
> Yankee Cousin as racist. It made me laugh and I was tickled, very
> tickled to be given a reply.
> I could tell it was written humorously and that he immediatly grasped
> the humor I was writing with. There is still a very strong yankee/Texan
> line drawn around these parts, although it is done more in minds and
> language than actions. We haven't hung a yankee or Union
> sympathizer....well.....in a very long time. Gosh doggone, we even got
> some as neighbors. And the longer they live around here, the more they
> blend in. So, what I'm trying to say is if any of my cuzuns stopped by
> for tea, I would put the hanging rope away and share some tea an gossip;
> maybe even gossip about the rest of the relatives.
> And again just for the record.....I think the word racist is an ugly
> word and something only an ignorant man would use.
> An intellegent person using common sense understands and puts actions to
> his understanding ----- that all people from all backgrounds and all
> customs/cultures have their beliefs ------and that those beliefs will be
> different from their own -----and that by critizing or making fun of
> them is childish, small minded and cheap. An indivdual should have the
> right to accept or decline an idea or a custom in an adult an civilized
> manner.
> Everybody has the right to their way of thinking and crucifying them for
> it is small and mean.
> People aren't going to change their upbringing over night. Using force
> won't change a person's thinking either.
> Acceptance, tolerance and marrying off sons and daughters will. (said
> with tongue in cheek)
> Here in Texas the culture is undergoing a long and steady change by the
> flow of our neighbors from the south. Hispanics and the hispanic culture
> is changing the face of Texas, slowly and sure as the sun rises over the
> eastern hills.
> What many people miss is that as much as they are changing Texas, Texan
> culture is also changing the Hispanic culture. We are blending into each
> other.
> When the day comes and if my grandchildren are brown faced, speaking a
> mixture of English and Spanish (TexMex) how foolish and old woman I
> would be should I not hold my arms wide for their hugs and kisses.
> And again, how foolish I should be if I were to turn my back on my Chase
> cousins and their ideas, or thinking.
> Enuff preaching; it ain't even Sunday! Ya'll go on yer own way and greet
> yer day with vigor, love and compassion. I'm putting the tea kettle and
> by the way, we Texas Chase cousins drink our tea iced, that's right,
> iced tea.....we could even start a war over that.
> Blessings to you all,
> Kit Chase
> from the Texas Renegade branch
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Hey Cousins,
Just to set the record straight, I did not view the reply I got from my
Yankee Cousin as racist. It made me laugh and I was tickled, very
tickled to be given a reply.
I could tell it was written humorously and that he immediatly grasped
the humor I was writing with. There is still a very strong yankee/Texan
line drawn around these parts, although it is done more in minds and
language than actions. We haven't hung a yankee or Union
sympathizer....well.....in a very long time. Gosh doggone, we even got
some as neighbors. And the longer they live around here, the more they
blend in. So, what I'm trying to say is if any of my cuzuns stopped by
for tea, I would put the hanging rope away and share some tea an gossip;
maybe even gossip about the rest of the relatives.
And again just for the record.....I think the word racist is an ugly
word and something only an ignorant man would use.
An intellegent person using common sense understands and puts actions to
his understanding ----- that all people from all backgrounds and all
customs/cultures have their beliefs ------and that those beliefs will be
different from their own -----and that by critizing or making fun of
them is childish, small minded and cheap. An indivdual should have the
right to accept or decline an idea or a custom in an adult an civilized
manner.
Everybody has the right to their way of thinking and crucifying them for
it is small and mean.
People aren't going to change their upbringing over night. Using force
won't change a person's thinking either.
Acceptance, tolerance and marrying off sons and daughters will. (said
with tongue in cheek)
Here in Texas the culture is undergoing a long and steady change by the
flow of our neighbors from the south. Hispanics and the hispanic culture
is changing the face of Texas, slowly and sure as the sun rises over the
eastern hills.
What many people miss is that as much as they are changing Texas, Texan
culture is also changing the Hispanic culture. We are blending into each
other.
When the day comes and if my grandchildren are brown faced, speaking a
mixture of English and Spanish (TexMex) how foolish and old woman I
would be should I not hold my arms wide for their hugs and kisses.
And again, how foolish I should be if I were to turn my back on my Chase
cousins and their ideas, or thinking.
Enuff preaching; it ain't even Sunday! Ya'll go on yer own way and greet
yer day with vigor, love and compassion. I'm putting the tea kettle and
by the way, we Texas Chase cousins drink our tea iced, that's right,
iced tea.....we could even start a war over that.
Blessings to you all,
Kit Chase
from the Texas Renegade branch
I can't remember if I've posted this before. Here is my Chase line as far as
I know it.
Susan Heider
Zionsville, Indiana GMT -5
"Never Give Up, Never Surrender!" Commander Peter Quincy Taggart, Galaxy
Quest
===========================
There are conflicting reports about James parentage. Some say he was the son
of Heman Chase, others (correct, in my opinion) say that Jonathan, Heman's
brother was James father. I hope to cofirm it for sure someday. Here it is
from James on down....s
James Chase was born 3 Sep 1818 in New York and died 17 Oct 1883 in Cooks
Valley, Wisconsin.
He marriedHannah Gay 26 Mar 1843 in Stow, Summit County, Ohio
James & Hannah had several children one of whom was Charles.
James was a music teacher.
=======
Charles Madison Chase was born 12 August 1856 in Sauk City(?), Wisconsin.
He died 12 March 1927 in Arkansas.
He married Ida May Haskins on 25 Dec 1886 at the Methodist Church in
Cooks Valley, Wisconsin . (I believe this is the correct date although some
family records indicate the year as 1887).
She was born 14 Feb 1867 in Chippewa County, Wisconsin and
died 7 August 1959 in Arkansas. She is buried in Clarksville, Arkansas.
Their children were:
Arthur Bertram Chase born 1 Jun 1889
Bessie May Chase born 25 Apr 1891
Lottie Glenn Chase born May 1893
Harold Charles Chase born Sep 1896
==================================
Arthur married Alice Arizona Graves around 1919 in Arkansas.
Arthur died March 1985; Alice died 15 Jan 1990; both are buried in
Clarksville, Arkansas.
They had 2 sons
Raymond Arthur Chase born 1 August 1920
Jackson Graves Chase born around 1924
Raymond married Marie Sefcik around 1938
They had one daughter, Rayma Lou born 13 Dec 1939 in Clarksville, Arkansas.
They divorced around 1960.
Raymond married Mary???
They had 3 children, Rosemary, Nancy & Arthur. (birthdates unknown)
Raymond died 11 March 1995 in Etwanda, California.
Jackson married ? and died in the 1970's in a motorcycle accident.
Rayma Lou married Fred Clifford Hyatt on 20 Sep 1958.
They had four children:
Donald Ray Hyatt born 15 Aug 1959
Susan Laree Hyatt born 20 May 1961 (this is me)
Robin Jean Hyatt born 8 Feb 1963
Christy Noel Hyatt born 29 Dec 1969
Fred Hyatt died 12 Feb 1992
All of the Hyatt children married and had children; names of spouses and
their children withheld out of respect for their privacy.
========
Bessie married Arbra Howell Graves
they had 2 or more children
Lottie married Lemuel Raspberry Jones
they had 11 children
Harold Chase never married but did father a child.
Anybody else having trouble connecting with the Chase Family Website tonite?
Is all well?
I have a description of a Chase grave site in Deep River, Connecticut that I
would love to have someone visit. My grandfather wrote that John Nelson
Chase, a Baptist minister of Deep River ( I suppose ) and his sister, Harriet
are both buried there. I suspect that John Nelson's wife, Elizabeth Allen
Chase, a descendant of Ethan Allen, is also buried there. If there is
someone who is interested in Chase gravesites who lives in Connecticut, not
too far from Deep River ( In Middlesex County, above Old Saybrook, about 65
miles East of Darien), I'd love to know if those graves are still visible.
It is described as a "cemetary on a wooded hill with beautiful views of the
river winding below". Sounds like a good day trip. I wish I were in
Connecticut this fall.
Sincerely,
Ellie Pelcyger
The following pages have been added to the Image map section
Indiana........................Susan Heider
New York....................Susan Edwards
Wahington State..........Dr. "Tammy" Straub
New Hampshire............Oliver Sanborn Smith
Keith Hume, Bexleyheath,England
CHASE/CHACE web page http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html
OK,Panic over!,
In downloading the upgrades for Internet Explorer. The security setup changed all my settings to refuse all attachments.
I have now sorted out the problem.
It is not necessary to re send your information
Keith Hume, Bexleyheath,England
CHASE/CHACE web page http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html
OK, I give up. What is a fluffer-nutter sandwich
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harriet M Chase" <hatchasse(a)earthlink.net>
To: <CHASE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [CHASE-L] Chocolate
> <<p.s.: Lynn is the city that gives us Marshmallow Fluff!>>
>
> And did you know; that there are parts of the USA, ergo, I am sure parts
of
> the world who do not know what a fluffer-nutter sandwich is!
>
> Sweets to ya all
>
> Harriet
>
>
>
I am looking for a Fred (Fredrick) Chase who had a sister named Delia (Elliot) and a nephew Albert A Marten.
Does this sound familiar to any one.
Fred is from New York and was 51 in 1920
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> #1 [CHASE-L] Chocolate ["Steve Ratigan" <stever(a)greennet.n]
> #2 Re: [CHASE-L] Chocolate [Joelellie(a)aol.com]
> #3 [CHASE-L] Caleb CHASE and James SA ["Rochelle Jacobs" <rochellejj@attb]
> #4 [CHASE-L] Contacing Jeffrey ["KEITH HUME" <k.hume(a)ntlworld.com>]
> #5 Re: [CHASE-L] Chocolate ["Harriet M Chase" <hatchasse@earth]
> #6 Re: [CHASE-L] Caleb CHASE and Jame ["Roanne Lyall" <relyall(a)charter.ne]
> #7 [CHASE-L] Image Maps ["KEITH HUME" <k.hume(a)ntlworld.com>]
> #8 [CHASE-L] Caleb CHASE ["Judy Needham" <jcneedham1@adelphi]
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> Subject: [CHASE-L] Chocolate
> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 12:06:06 -0500
> From: "Steve Ratigan" <stever(a)greennet.net>
> To: CHASE-L(a)rootsweb.com
>
> To Ellie et al:
> Ref. "The History of Lynn, Essex County, Massachusetts including Lynnfield,
> Saugus, Swampscot, and Nahant" by Alonzo Lewis and James R. Newhall,
> copyright 1865.
>
> Amariah Childs operated a chocolate mill in Lynn from 1805 to 1840. There is
> no mention of a Chase involved. When I next visit the area I'll look
> further.
> The index mentioned Chase a number of times in other regards. You might find
> these interesting.
>
> 1731, Nov. 24: Reverend Stephen Chase of Newbury ordained minister of 2nd.
> Parish Church.
>
> 1808: Jacob Chase's barn burned.
>
> 1835: on the 4th. of November, Hezekiah Chase's mill, at the mouth of
> Strawberry Brook, was burnt.
>
> 1846: fire destroyed large brick building used for silk printing and dyeing,
> then occupied by Daniel K. Chase.
>
> 1861: Charles H. Chase and John C. Chase enlisted as privates in Company F
> of Lynn City Guards.
>
> Hannah Chase of Salem married Micajah Collins (1764-1827).
>
> 1838, Dec. 19: Daniel Collins Baker (1816-1863) (a Quaker) married Augusta,
> daughter of John B. Chase.
>
> George H. Chase was Postmaster in 1861
>
> Hezekiah Chase became first president of Nahant Bank incorporated in 1832.
>
> p.s.: Lynn is the city that gives us Marshmallow Fluff!
>
> Steve Ratigan (Aquila, Ensign Moses, Moses, Lt. Wells, Daniel, Enoch,
> Thomas, Salome Pearson Chase, Nellie May Mudgett, Bernard Chase Ratigan).
>
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> Subject: Re: [CHASE-L] Chocolate
> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 12:26:42 EST
> From: Joelellie(a)aol.com
> To: CHASE-L(a)rootsweb.com
>
> Dear Steve,
> How very sweet of you to hold my question and research it! My grandfather
> clearly got it just a little wrong, but perhaps there was another Chase
> working at the Childs Chocolate Mill in Salem as well. It's been mentioned
> before how important it is to look these things up before assuming them
> correct.
>
> Huge numbers of Chases in the Lynn area! None of them are "my" Chases that I
> can tell from a glance, but my John Chase bore only two sons, only one of
> whom survived. John Nelson Chase became a Baptist minister in Deep River,
> CN. Two of the many daughters died of TB from the Nashua cotton mills, the
> others became school teachers.
>
> This is a generous website. Thank you so much.
> Sincerely,
> Ellie Pelcyger
>
> ______________________________
>
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> Subject: [CHASE-L] Caleb CHASE and James SANBORN
> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 09:31:51 -0800
> From: "Rochelle Jacobs" <rochellejj(a)attbi.com>
> To: CHASE-L(a)rootsweb.com
>
> "In 1863 Caleb CHASE and James SANBORN begin selling coffee in Boston, the
> start of the Chase and Sanborn firm."
>
> "James SANBORN and Caleb CHASE of West Harwich Mass. produced the first
> commercially available ground coffee in sealed cans in 1878."
>
> The above is all I can find about Caleb and James. I would like more
> information about either men and the company.
>
> I have the CHASEs and the SANBORNs in my family line but most of the
> SANBORNs I have were married to PAGE. Would like to know if the CHASE and
> SANBORN families married and if our family lore is correct in stating that
> we were indeed related to either of these men.
>
> Thanks
> Rochelle
>
> ______________________________
>
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>
> Subject: [CHASE-L] Contacing Jeffrey
> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 17:16:31 -0000
> From: "KEITH HUME" <k.hume(a)ntlworld.com>
> To: CHASE-L(a)rootsweb.com
>
> Sorry Group, but despite several email addresses I am still having trouble getting Jeffrey Chase.
> Jeffery, If you got one of my previous messages please let me know,
> Keith
> Keith Hume, Bexleyheath,England
> CHASE/CHACE web page http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html
>
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> Subject: Re: [CHASE-L] Chocolate
> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 13:41:02 -0500
> From: "Harriet M Chase" <hatchasse(a)earthlink.net>
> To: CHASE-L(a)rootsweb.com
>
> <<p.s.: Lynn is the city that gives us Marshmallow Fluff!>>
>
> And did you know; that there are parts of the USA, ergo, I am sure parts of
> the world who do not know what a fluffer-nutter sandwich is!
>
> Sweets to ya all
>
> Harriet
>
> ______________________________
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [CHASE-L] Caleb CHASE and James SANBORN
> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 12:09:43 -0800
> From: "Roanne Lyall" <relyall(a)charter.net>
> To: CHASE-L(a)rootsweb.com
>
> Summary from, "Genealogy of the Family of Samborne or Sanborn in England
> and America" by V.C. Sanborn, 1899:
>
> James Solomon Sanborn was born 29 March 1835 in Wales, Maine,
> the only child of Henry Sanborn and Ann Crossman Daly of Wales, ME.
>
> James S. Sanborn spent his youth in Wales and Monmouth, Maine and in
> Nashua, NH. In 1856 he married Harriet N. Small, daughter of Capt. John
> and Sarah (Moody) Small of Auburn, Maine.
> James began business by traveling and selling garden seeds for A.H. Dunlap
> of Nashua, NH and for several years he was a commercial traveler.
> His first venture for himself was in Lewiston, Maine, where he went into the
> coffee and spice business.
> In 1868, he became connected with Dwinell, Hayward & Co., of Boston, and
> in 1872 moved with his family to Somerville, where he has since resided,
> except for five years (1884-89), when he lived in Boston
> The firm of Chase & Sanborn was formed in 1878, and the greatest success has
> attended them.
> Besides the coffee business, Mr. Sanborn has given his attention to the
> French coach horse at his summer home in Poland, Maine, where he has a large
> establishment.
> In 1897, he became part owner and manager of the Maine Farmer, a weekly
> paper.
>
> Children of James Solomon Sanborn and Harriet N. Small:
> 1. Helen Josephine, born 6 Oct 1857 (In 1899, she was living, unmarried, in
> Somerville, MA. She is the author of "A Winter in Central America" and
> was the source for the above info on her father.)
> 2. Charles Edgar, born 30 April 1860 (lived in Boston)
> 3. Oren Cheney, born 6 Oct 1865
> 4. Georgie Dunlap, born 20 Dec 1867, married Edward Sands Townsend of
> Boston.
>
> I don't find any Chase/Sanborn family connections.
> If you'd like more info on the Sanborn line, let me know.
>
> Roanne
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rochelle Jacobs" <rochellejj(a)attbi.com>
> To: <CHASE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 9:31 AM
> Subject: [CHASE-L] Caleb CHASE and James SANBORN
>
> > "In 1863 Caleb CHASE and James SANBORN begin selling coffee in Boston, the
> > start of the Chase and Sanborn firm."
> >
> > "James SANBORN and Caleb CHASE of West Harwich Mass. produced the first
> > commercially available ground coffee in sealed cans in 1878."
> >
> > The above is all I can find about Caleb and James. I would like more
> > information about either men and the company.
> >
> > I have the CHASEs and the SANBORNs in my family line but most of the
> > SANBORNs I have were married to PAGE. Would like to know if the CHASE and
> > SANBORN families married and if our family lore is correct in stating that
> > we were indeed related to either of these men.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Rochelle
> >
>
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>
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>
> Subject: [CHASE-L] Image Maps
> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 21:56:05 -0000
> From: "KEITH HUME" <k.hume(a)ntlworld.com>
> To: CHASE-L(a)rootsweb.com
>
> Can I please ask anyone who has sent me an email in the last 5 days to please send it again.
> The problem has been at this end.
> The fault has been with my Virus Detector which while it did not signal a virus among those who sent pictures, considered the files and attachments as "unsafe"
> I have rectified this error,
> Thanks
> Keith Hume, Bexleyheath,England
> CHASE/CHACE web page http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html
>
> ______________________________
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: [CHASE-L] Caleb CHASE
> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 21:26:09 -0800
> From: "Judy Needham" <jcneedham1(a)adelphia.net>
> To: CHASE-L(a)rootsweb.com
>
> I have a wonderful article from The Boston Globe dated Sunday, January 3,
> 1992, byline Jeff McLaughlin, about Chase & Sanborn. It seems that their
> pictures on the coffee can were reversed - he who was named Sanborn was
> actually Chase and vice versa!
>
> Caleb left the Cape in the 1850s and made Brookline, Massachusetts, his
> primary residence, but he spent every summer in Harwich, at his summer home
> "Good Cheer", until his death in 1908 at the age of 76 - and, he was one of
> the most generous philanthropists the town has ever known. "Good Cheer" is
> still there in West Harwich, but now it is an Irish pub.
>
> Caleb's wife was named Salome Boyle, and she came from Maine.
>
> Judy Chace Needham
Dear Patti,
If what you say is true, then Johnson Chase was nearly 100 years old! Are we
speaking of Johnson Chase, son of John Chase and Hannah Hoyt? Here is the
rest of what I have about him:
Johnson Chase, who lost his father, John, when he was only two years old, was
born in Newbury on October 24, 1730. Johnson married Abigail Pike, daughter
of Thomas and Lois Pike, on July 19, 1753. Abigail was born in Newbury
December 30, 1729 and died in Chester, New Hampshire in 1804. Together,
Johnson and Abigail had four children born in Newbury:
Hannah, b. 1754
John, b. 1756
Perley, b. 1758
Johnson, b. 1761
I very much appreciate your efforts on my behalf.
Sincerely,
Ellie Pelcyger
On page 255 of "Seven Generations", it gives the death date as 28 Apr. 1826
in Hampstead, NH.
Patti Worthington
Hackettstown, NJ
----- Original Message -----
From: <Joelellie(a)aol.com>
To: <CHASE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 9:48 PM
Subject: [CHASE-L] Re: What's my line
> Well, with a lot of help from list members, here, finally, is my line. I
> have detailed information about the last male Chase-name bearing ancestor,
my
> great grandfather, John Chase of Plaistow, N.H.,and would love to post it
as
> a chronical if someone can tell me how. Also, I need a death date for
> Johnson Chase, son of John and Hannah, if someone can provide it from
"Seven
> Generations."
>
> Aquila Chase + Ann Wheeler
> Thomas Chase + Rebecca Folansbee
> James Chase + Lidia Johnson
> John Chase + Hannah Hoyt
> Johnson Chase + Abigail Pike
> Deacon John Chase + Anna Chase
> Humphreyu Chase + Rebecca Nichols
> John Chase + Martha Rhodes
> Edward Simonds + Mary Ann Chase
> William Edward Simonds + Katherine L. Courtright
> Royal H. Wensberg + Katherine Simonds
>
> Sincerely grateful for the help,
> Eleanor Pelcyger in Los Angeles
>
>
Keith Hume, Bexleyheath,England
CHASE/CHACE web page http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html
----- Original Message -----
From: Roanne Lyall Roanne,
I cannot believe this!.
I have completely, I thought, Uninstalled my Virus protectio but attacments are not coming thru despite me getting it tested by my daughter sending me one!
I am really sorry about this. I will have another go,Keith
To: KEITH HUME
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 4:46 AM
Subject: Re: [CHASE-L] Image Maps
The attachment is my line of descent from Aquila Chase.
Roanne Filgate Lyall
> Caleb, b. 11 Dec, 1831, was the 16th child of Job of Harwich - and the
> 7th and last child he had with his
> second wife, Phebe Winslow. Job's parents were Captain Job and his
> second wife, Hope (Sears) Howes.
> Captain Job was son of William and wife Dorcas Baker, grandson of John
> and wife Elizabeth Baker,
> great-grandson of William and his first wife (____) and finally
> Great-Great Grandson of William, the
> Immigrant and wife Mary (____). So, Caleb Chase, co-founder of Chase &
> Sanborn coffee is of the line of
> William of Roxbury and Yarmouth.
CHASE-D-request(a)rootsweb.com wrote:
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> HASE and James SANBORN
> From:
> "Rochelle Jacobs" <rochellejj(a)attbi.com>
> Date:
> Wed, 27 Nov 2002 09:31:51 -0800
> To:
> CHASE-L(a)rootsweb.com
>
>
>"In 1863 Caleb CHASE and James SANBORN begin selling coffee in Boston, the
>start of the Chase and Sanborn firm."
>
>"James SANBORN and Caleb CHASE of West Harwich Mass. produced the first
>commercially available ground coffee in sealed cans in 1878."
>
>The above is all I can find about Caleb and James. I would like more
>information about either men and the company.
>
>I have the CHASEs and the SANBORNs in my family line but most of the
>SANBORNs I have were married to PAGE. Would like to know if the CHASE and
>SANBORN families married and if our family lore is correct in stating that
>we were indeed related to either of these men.
>
>Thanks
>Rochelle
>
>______________________________
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>"In 1863 Caleb CHASE and James SANBORN begin selling coffee in Boston, the
>>start of the Chase and Sanborn firm."
>>
>>"James SANBORN and Caleb CHASE of West Harwich Mass. produced the first
>>commercially available ground coffee in sealed cans in 1878."
>>
>>The above is all I can find about Caleb and James. I would like more
>>information about either men and the company.
>>
>>I have the CHASEs and the SANBORNs in my family line but most of the
>>SANBORNs I have were married to PAGE. Would like to know if the CHASE and
>>SANBORN families married and if our family lore is correct in stating that
>>we were indeed related to either of these men.
>>
>>Thanks
>>Rochelle
>>
>>
>>
>
>______________________________
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> S
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject:
> [CHASE-L] Caleb CHASE
> From:
> "Judy Needham" <jcneedham1(a)adelphia.net>
> Date:
> Wed, 27 Nov 2002 21:26:09 -0800
> To:
> CHASE-L(a)rootsweb.com
>
>
>I have a wonderful article from The Boston Globe dated Sunday, January 3,
>1992, byline Jeff McLaughlin, about Chase & Sanborn. It seems that their
>pictures on the coffee can were reversed - he who was named Sanborn was
>actually Chase and vice versa!
>
>Caleb left the Cape in the 1850s and made Brookline, Massachusetts, his
>primary residence, but he spent every summer in Harwich, at his summer home
>"Good Cheer", until his death in 1908 at the age of 76 - and, he was one of
>the most generous philanthropists the town has ever known. "Good Cheer" is
>still there in West Harwich, but now it is an Irish pub.
>
>Caleb's wife was named Salome Boyle, and she came from Maine.
>
>Judy Chace Needham
>
>
Can I please ask anyone who has sent me an email in the last 5 days to please send it again.
The problem has been at this end.
The fault has been with my Virus Detector which while it did not signal a virus among those who sent pictures, considered the files and attachments as "unsafe"
I have rectified this error,
Thanks
Keith Hume, Bexleyheath,England
CHASE/CHACE web page http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html