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Dear Rex,
The project I was referring to was connected, I believe, to the U of
Utah at Provo. Not only did I not have to pay to be included but they
offered me a $10 reimbursement, which I didn't take, for taking part.
All I had to do was provide them with at least a four-generation family
line as I remember and a blood sample.
As you mentioned, I think interesting things could come of it if they
eventually make their findings public. I suppose there would also be a
lot of flak from people who think they belong to a certain family and
find they do not. Maybe that is why they aren't making it public - at
least for now.
Janice
-----Original Message-----
From: k.hume [mailto:k.hume@ntlworld.com]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 12:13 PM
To: Lonnie Chase
Subject: Manor Records re Jeffery Chase
The following is a copy of the reply by Dr.Gurney of the Historical
Document Commission in London. The www site is http://www.hmc.gov.uk This
department was formed some years ago and one of their prime objectives
is/was to locate the whereabouts of Manor Records.
I have numbered each item for when I received them they were in the form of
an unformatted list.
I hope I heve seperated them out correctly!
To understand how the system works visit the site or go to the Public
Records Office,( link from the CHASE site)
This information is over 18 months old
This site is among those listed on the CHASE www site under the Archives
section.
I have drawn the attention of the Chase Group to this site and also of
others in the UK before.
All these types of departments with the ".. gov.uk" ending are obliged to
respond to enquiries.
The following information was supplied without charge.
1) Court rolls and accounts 1307-1930 and map nd. In 1988 these were in
the possession of Professor RH Graveson, who died in 1991. We do not know
their present whereabouts.
2) Extent of wastes c1500-87, estreat of fines 1584 and misc records
in Essex Record Office, Wharf Road, Chelmsford CM2 6YT (ref: D/Cm/M8-10).
3) Extent 1508, based on extents of 1339 and 1366 in Essex Record
Office (ref: D/DHt/M89).
4) Detailed rental 1583/84 and accounts c1657 in the Public Record
Office, Ruskin Avenue, Kew, Richmond TW9 4DU (ref: SC12/1/18; SC12/34/23).
5) Survey with other manors 1584 in Essex Record Office (ref: D/DU 603/612,
Acc 4213).
6)Survey (1 vol) 1584 in Essex Record Office (ref: D/DEt/M25-27).
7) Account with other manors 1604-5 and 19th transcript of a 1584 survey
in Essex Record Office (ref: D/DBm/M255, 502).
8) Court rolls 1607-9, 1626-7 with list of tenants 1626 in the Public Record
Office (ref: SC2/227/117).
9) Draft court rolls with another manor 1621-23 in Essex Record Office
(formerly part of the collection of the Essex Archaeological Society).
10) Accounts with another manor 1625-6 at Raynham Hall, Norfolk.
Enquiries about access should be addressed to Norfolk Record Office,
Gildengate House, Anglia Square, Upper Green Lane, Norwich NR3 1AX.
11) Accounts with another manor 1630 in Norfolk Record Office
(collection ref: BL).
12) Accounts 1638-53 in Essex Record Office (ref: D/DA/M4).
13) Essex Record Office also holds presentments and draft court rolls
1592-1815 for the manor of Wivenhoe with its members (ref: D/DBm/M503-5).
Yours sincerely
Dr JR Gurney
Curatorial Officer "
Keith
P.S. Anyone can now do this with any Manor .
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 20:55:14 EST, you wrote:
>Thanks, Janice, for bringing up the topic of DNA testing again.
>
> I have tried to find out if any of the MALE CHASE members had had their
>blood drawn for DNA testing or were interested in doing so. To date, I have
>had no response so perhaps the present answer is "No".
I thought all you had to do was scrape some epithelial cells from the inside
of your mouth with a popsicle stick....like I did in BIOL 101 a few years
ago.....more than a few actually..
But still...you scrape some cells, inside the mouth, bag em tag em and send
em .....and pay some money !
It can't be all that complicated but I stand to be corrected...and I would
like to do it if we can get a scheme going.
Derek
But hope lives on for
>future descendants to donate their blood.
>
>I would like to persuade two or more descendants of both the William line and
>Aquila line to go for testing so those individuals, like myself, who are
>still searching can get a clue as to which line to hone in on. I would be
>more than happy to help finance such an undertaking.
>
>Any takers??
>
>Rex
Folks....Chases and Chaces all.....
I find I am unable to use my banked weeks in a time share I own...and would
love for any of you to be able to go somewhere and maybe do some genealogy
and get back to us...... ....I have "banked" weeks, which means you don't have
to go to where my timeshare is...but rather can use the two weeks I have
somewhere else......(my main venue is Portugal, and I have 2 weeks there in
April..)
Anyway...if you want to go some place for a week or two, let me know, and we
can arrange details off list....I do wish to recoup my maintenance fees, but
thats a lot better than what you'd face in a Jack Tar (har har har) or some
such..
Happy New Year !
Derek Chase
Thanks, Janice, for bringing up the topic of DNA testing again.
I have tried to find out if any of the MALE CHASE members had had their
blood drawn for DNA testing or were interested in doing so. To date, I have
had no response so perhaps the present answer is "No". But hope lives on for
future descendants to donate their blood.
I would like to persuade two or more descendants of both the William line and
Aquila line to go for testing so those individuals, like myself, who are
still searching can get a clue as to which line to hone in on. I would be
more than happy to help finance such an undertaking.
Any takers??
Rex
Hi all,
Possibly some great news for some of you looking for a Civil War era
ancestor. I found a database of photographs online at
http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usamhi/PhotoDB.html
They definitely have the photos listed below and will make copies and/or
reproductions if you follow the online ordering instructions. Hope someone
finds this useful.
Cheers,
Jeffrey Chace
Keywords: "CHASE"
25 records found
Photo ID
Comments
RG98S-CWP10.18
A bust view of Pvt. Orren A. Chase, Co. H, 154th Regt.,
N.Y.S. Vol. Inf. Post war view.
RG98S-CWP12.97
Cadet William Howard Chase, USMA, 1865
RG98S-CWP39.43
Wartime bust portrait of 1st Lt. Arnold R. Chase, Co. A,
64th Regt., N.Y.S. Vol. Inf.
RG98S-CWP40.38
Wartime bust portrait of 1st Lt. Constantine Chase, Co. C,
3rd Regt., Mass. Vol. Hvy.Arty. On his kepi is his branch
insignia.
RG98S-CWP61.105
Seated wartime image of Sgt. Charles Chase, Co. C, 1st
Regt., Wisconsin Vol. Cav.
RG98S-CWP64.78
Capt. Henry R. Chase, Co. M, 1st Regt., Vermont Vol. Heavy
Arty. (This regt. was also known as the 11th Regt., Vt. Vol.
Inf.)
RG98S-CWP64.82
Full standing wartime image of Maj. Daniel Chase, 13th
U.S. Inf. He is wearing a cape with his uniform.
RG98S-CWP68.89
Wartime bust image of 2nd Lt. Winfield S. Chase, R.Q.M.,
18th Regt., Veteran Reserve Corps.
RG98S-CWP85.3
Capt. Philip E. Chase, Co. G, 2nd Regt. Vermont Vol.
Infantry. Photo is a bust image of him in uniform.
RG98S-CWP85.4
Capt. Philip E. Chase, Co. G, 2nd Regt., Vermont Vol. Inf.
Photo is a bust view of him in uniform.
RG526S-NYSAG.339
A half standing view of Corp. Louis J. Chase, 17th Indp.
Btry., N.Y.S. Vol. Lt. Arty.
RG98S-CWP110.26
A bust view of Pvt. Andrew J. Chase, Co. H, 39th Regt.,
Mass. Vol. Inf. and Co. K, 12th Regt., Mass. Vol. Inf.
RG645S-POST140.62
Bust view of A.M. Chase, Jr., Co. B, 7th Regt., N.Y.S.M.,
post-war image.
RG98S-CWP122.7
Bust view of Pvt. Jairus S. Chase, Co. G, 89th Regt., NYS
Vol. Inf., in civilian attire.
RG98S-CWP130.67
A bust view of Surg. Dwight W. Chase, 21st Regt., Iowa
Vol. Inf.
RG98S-CWP132.3
A full standing view of Pvt. George Chase, Co. H, 177th
Regt., Ohio Vol. Inf. Post war view pictured with family.
RG98S-CWP143.63
? Bust view of Capt. Sylvester S. Chase, Co. A, 12th
Regt., N.J. Vol. Inf.
RG667S-MM V5.242A
Bust view of Hon. Salmon P. Chase, Sec. of the Treasury.
Image is a drawing.
RG667S-MM V5.243
Full sitting view of the Hon. Salmon P. Chase, Sec. of
Treasury.
RG98S-CWPAB#4.24
Bust view of Pvt. Richard W. Chase, Co. E, 15th Regt., Pa.
Vol. Cav. He is wearing civilian clothing. Killed at Stone River,
Dec 29, 1862. (LAMBERT ALBUM)
RG98S-CWP 159.80
Wartime bust view of Pvt. Sumner F. Chase, Co. A, 2nd
Regt., West Virginia Vol. Cav. KIA: Cove Mountain, W.V. May 10,
1864
RG98S-CWP 172.98
Sitting image of Capt. Cornelius Silas Chase, Co. K, 57th
Regt., Pa. Vol. Inf. He is in uniform.
RG98S-CWP 193.102
Wartime bust portrait of 1st Lt. James E. Chase, Btry. B,
1st Regt., Rhode Island Vol. Lt. Arty.
RG98S-CWP 203.70
Wartime bust portrait of 2nd Lt. Frederick M Chase, 28th
Battery, New York State Vol. Light Artillery.
RG98S-CWP 214.69
Wartime bust image of 1st Lt. Aaron H. Chase, Co. H, 9th
Regt., Maine Vol. Infantry.
Jeffrey Chace
j.b.chace(a)amaze.nl
L I N U X t h e c h o i c e o f a
G N U g e n e r a t i o n . . .
Contrary to popular belief, Unix is user friendly. It just happens to be
very selective about who it decides to make friends with.
I do not remember if I had posted on this list a year ago about my divorce
and my Mom dying. The past 2 years have been a challenge for me, with my
first marriage and then divorce, but I now have much happiness again. Last
summer I was first contacted by a very beautiful (to me) woman who is now my
wife. We had planned for a marriage on January 19th, but due to a change of
circumstances beyond our control, we moved the date up and were married on
Nov. 27th. After we were married, and checking back on prior events, we
found that we were married on the same day that her parents were sealed in
the Temple and she was sealed to her parents on. Before the marriage we had
found that we were already related as 11th cousins.
Jackson Andersen
Provo, UT
IBSSG
In a message dated 12/30/2001 1:01:06 PM Mountain Standard Time,
CHASE-D-request(a)rootsweb.com writes:
> Subject: [CHASE-L] Chace names from Fall River, MA Census of 1850
>
> Hello All,
>
> Just one more find.
> http://svr1.marketrends.net/mthome/census/1850fallriver.html
> There was only one Chase, so I put him at the top. Anyone know what the
> column with # in it means? Or C200?
>
>
The column with the number may be the family or house visited number. That
would help to find them in the actual census. If you though any of these
families were yours, you would want to go to the census to confirm which ones
and see who all the children in the family are.
Jackson Andersen
Provo, UT
IBSSG
Hello All,
Just one more find.
http://svr1.marketrends.net/mthome/census/1850fallriver.html
There was only one Chase, so I put him at the top. Anyone know what the
column with # in it means? Or C200?
Cheers,
Jeffrey Chace
CHASE JAMES # 122 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE ANTHONY # 030 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE BAYLIS # 032 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE BENJAMIN B. # 080 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE BENONI T. # 063 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE BETSEY # 134 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE CALEB S. # 028 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE CHARLES D. # 016 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE CLARISA # 034 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE CLARISA # 130 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE DANIEL # 107 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE EARL # 090 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE EDMOND JR. # 057 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE EDMUND # 064 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE EDSIN A.* # 059 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE EDSIN V.* # 059 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE EDWARD # 082 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE EDWARD S. # 091 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE ELEAZER H. # 021 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE ELIRA* # 127 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE ELIZA* # 127 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE ELLEN # 138 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE ELNA* # 127 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE GEORGE # 019 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE GURTRUDE # 059 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE HENRY W. # 016 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE HILDER W.* # 131 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE HOLDER W.* # 131 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE ISAAC # 007 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE ISAAC # 031 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE JAMES B. # 082 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE JAMES S. # 016 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE JANE F. # 023 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE JERUSHA # 006 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE JOHN A. # 041 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE JOSEPH # 065 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE JOSEPH E. # 064 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE LEVI B. # 024 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE LLOYD # 064 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE LOUISA B. # 022 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE LUTHER # 075 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE LUTHER L. # 083 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE MARCY # 121 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE MARY A. # 092 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE MARY A. # 037 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE MASON S. # 126 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE MEDORA J. # 065 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE MEROIN R. # 020 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE MILLER # 121 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE OBEDIAH # 093 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE PALMER # 054 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE PHEBE T. # 032 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE PHILIP H. # 124 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE REBBECCA # 007 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE REBECCA # 098 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE ROBISON # 032 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE SAMUEL # 025 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE SAMUEL A. # 019 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE SARAH # 121 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE SARAH B. # 068 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE SARAH B. # 030 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE STEPHEN # 053 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE SUSAN # 032 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE THOMAS S. # 017 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE WILBUR # 008 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE WILLIAM # 037 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE WILLIAM # 032 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE WILLIAM H.F. # 088 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE WILLIAM M. # 032 FALL RIVER C200
CHACE WILLIAM R. # 007 FALL RIVER C200
Jeffrey Chace
j.b.chace(a)amaze.nl
L I N U X t h e c h o i c e o f a
G N U g e n e r a t i o n . . .
Contrary to popular belief, Unix is user friendly. It just happens to be
very selective about who it decides to make friends with.
Jeffery, the # is sometimes used instead of the word "number."
The C200 is a soundex code number for Chace and all of its various
spellings which is explained at the following address:
http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/soundexconverter
If you enter "Chace" into the box it will return the C200 code
number. Some web sites with surname data bases offer surname
searching by soundex code.
At this address you can find how to figure the soundex code for any
surname.
http://www.nara.gov/genealogy/soundex/soundex.html
Lonnie Chase
chase1858(a)fgn.net
> Anyone know what the
> column with # in it means? Or C200?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeffrey Chace
>
>
> CHASE JAMES # 122 FALL
> RIVER C200
>
Speaking of DNA testing as Terry Hollis from New Zealand did - in jest,
I think - at last summer's national meeting in Portland, Oregon, they
were collecting DNA samples with plans to study family lines. As a
descendent of William Chase, I gave them a sample. Since his line is
pretty well established, there must be thousands of known "cousins" and
I thought it would be interesting if some day the findings were
published. At this time they don't plan to do this, however. Of course
it is certainly true that there might be some surprises, too.
Also, one of the girls doing the paperwork told me that she was adopted
and she has no idea who her birth family is. She thought it would be
very wonderful if, sometime in the future, she could discover her family
through DNA testing.
Terry, I'm not sure you made your remarks seriously but it is
interesting to think about the possibilities of testing.
Janice Toland Barclay
----- Original Message -----
From: <RAChase(a)aol.com>
To: <CHASE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: FW: [CHASE-L] From the List Owner
> In a message dated 12/28/01 2:26:27 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> chase1858(a)fgn.net writes:
>
>
> > Please excuse the Capital letters but.....
> > IT IS UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL RESEARCHER TO ESTABLISH,
> > EVEN IF IT IS ONLY IN THEIR OWN MIND, WHAT IS "FACT"
>
> Having spent much of my career in research (scientific), I must voice a
> strong contrary opinion to that espoused by the above statement. By
> definition, a fact is absolute, and its determination is not by vote,
whim,
> or individual opinion. Something either is a fact (provably true) or it is
> not. To have it otherwise is to invite and promote perpetual confusion.
By your definition proof of ancestry is impossible unless you have access to
the DNA of each ancestor.
Have you checked the DNA of your parents, I know of people who are unaware
of the fact the they are adopted? How many mothers have given false
information about the father of their child? or did not know who the father
was and gave someone who happened to be suitable for the birth record?
I agree with Keith, proof of a fact is up to the individual researcher,
genealogy is a hobby after all.
Regards - Terry Hollis
Auckland, New Zealand, terry.hollis(a)xtra.co.nz
On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 09:46:38 -0700, you wrote:
>
>How often do we have someone going to England to search for
I would suggest that two people who have hands-on experience there are Ginger
and Keith whose e-mails appear below..
Jeffrey, Keith lives nearby and has done a lot of spade work there on the
ground.......Ginger prepared a book on her findings after spending some time
in the area, but it is in short supply I fear now.....someone may have a copy
on this list though.
VReeder(a)aol.com
"Keith" <khume(a)cwcom.net>
Derek Chase
Dick Chase wrote on December 26,
As suggested, the chace (also spelled chase) was what a game preserve was
called in England, and the keeper of the chase was the one employed by the
crown or a noble (depending upon who owned it) to watch over it and protect
it from poachers. Presumably, this is a source of the derivation of the Chase
(Chace) surname.
dick chase
True, Dick. Another possible source is LeChasseur (I remember this spelling,
may only be close). Through my grandmother Chase (nee Crippen), I am a
direct descendant of the Myles Standish family, and through this line, can
trace my lineage to an entry in the Doomsday Book and back to a female cousin
of William the Conqueror. LeChasseur is French Norman. The migrations into
England from France and the Scandinavian countries are most interesting, and
account for many family names.
Special note to Jeffrey: I have researched only one volume of the Boyd's
Marriage Index, that being Suffolk, 1601-1625, Grooms A-J in Salt Lake City's
Family History Center. I was looking for Mordecai Chase, 10th and last child
of Richard and Joan Chase of Chesham, who is noted as untraced by Chase and
Chamberlain. There were Chases, a Chasser and a Mardoche Cheese and Mary
Burt from Hadleigh, married in 1603. This seemed to be too early to be our
Mordecai Chase, who Chase and Chamberlain recorded as born 30 July 1591. I
chose to research Suffolk as the family is reported as having lived there
prior to moving to Bucks. Mordecai's mother died when he was only 6 years
old. The father might have sent him to a private school for his education,
or to live with relatives to be reared, or perhaps even apprenticed somewhere.
There is a story, circulated on this list in 1998, that Mordecai was the
father of Aquila and Thomas, and that there is a record of him in the English
church courts (formally known as the Diocesan Consistory Courts). One needs
a letter of recommendation to research the church records, and I was unable
to get that letter while I was there in 1999. If you wish additional
information, please contact me.
I agree with your belief that there are records not previously documented by
Chase and Chamberlain, as I found one while researching in London. I was
privileged to hold in my hands a parchment will made in the 1650s by a Chase
not recorded in Chase et al.
I also attempted to read some of the court records from the reign of Charles
I in the library at Kew (in Latin, of course). Interesting, but I found no
Mordecai's.
I also looked for the records of the Thames Watermen in one of the London
libraries (thinking Aquila might not have been a seaman, but a waterman).
The records for this guild were not available (if even begun) until after
Aquila was in this country.
I don't know when you plan to be in England, but it sounds as though you need
to take a warm overcoat! I am very busy until after January 15. If you are
leaving after that time, I would be happy to talk with you. I have been to
Chesham as well, but not for research. I did get some pictures of the Chase
family home there, and enjoyed my time in the village.
I would be happy to talk with you at any time.
Joyce Chase Jarvis
Ashland, Oregon
Folks,
No matter how much we debate the essence of fact over fiction, it will not,
in the careful art that is genealogy, be remedied on this list. Try to
remember that there are real individuals on the other end of each email
address. It is far too easy to flame someone and then click the "send"
button.
I must apologise for posting that Isaac Chase piece, he's not even my line.
I was just trying to be helpful to others on the list. But, let us imagine
if nobody posted anything until they were 100 percent absolutely sure that
it was true. Think of the opportunities that would be missed. So maybe you
run down a few rabbit trails, exercise can be good :) But, I also
understand that
others like Dick have been down that road and voice frustration with seeing
it again and remembering the frustration.
We all owe it too ourselves to have open minds but to keep our minds
skeptical. One thing I am tired of hearing, though, is statements like,
"even professional researchers have never..." or "he searched every record
and never found..." Well, then we should just give up, right? No.
Skepticism works both ways. I am skeptical that all research has been done
and that
there is nothing left to find.
I am planning to head to England next month and will also definitely be
there in April for the Bolton Wanderers v. Fulham Cottagers match in
London. I can at least spend a couple of days then east of London
(Wivenhoe, Burnham, Pagelsham, Colchester, and possibly even Chesham). I
ask once more for some direction and some ideas. Has anyone an opinion
about the email I posted about William Chase of Burnham? Has anyone got an
opinion about it or other information pro or con? I must admit that William
will be my priority, but Isaac and Thomas will also be in the back of my
mind. Who knows, maybe they were
cousins, or uncles, or such.
Let's stop the "what is fact and what is false" arguments and return to
posting information, possible links and family history (even if questionable
- because we should always be asking questions, right?).
Please put it to rest.
Cheers,
Jeffrey Chace
Jeffrey Chace
j.b.chace(a)amaze.nl
L I N U X t h e c h o i c e o f a
G N U g e n e r a t i o n . . .
Contrary to popular belief, Unix is user friendly. It just happens to be
very selective about who it decides to make friends with.
Because of this Thomas Chase/Thomas Linnell question here in Nova
Scotia, as far as I know, my line stops right at that person and the
unknown reasons for the name change. I do however follow with interest
the ongoing debate about the earlier connections to England and who
knows or does not know what? I am just fascinated from a distance
because I can't get into it all. Now if we were talking my husband's
Whitman line I would love to get involved.. but... any way, good luck
Jeffery... I hope that everyone appreciates your efforts and your
interest in trying to find yet another piece of the puzzle.
I must admit, folks, I think this genealogy is all one big puzzle and
sometimes pieces fit, and sometimes they don't but you just keep going.
If you have the picture on the jigsaw box, then it is easy to put the
pieces together. When you don't, it just makes the putting together of
the puzzle a little more time consuming and frustrating now and then. I
guess we need to keep in mind that in most cases, the process of doing
the puzzle is much more rewarding than the actual finished picture. Who
knows where the missing piece is located... Good luck, Jeff.
Lonnie Chase wrote:
> How often do we have someone going to England to search for
> Chase/Chace information and willing to share it with the rest of us?
> We need to unite behind Jeffery Chace and give him our support and
> any helpful information available to us. What a thrill it would be
> if he found solid information that has eluded everyone for so long,
> be it for William, Aquila or Thomas. If you have anything that would
> help him in any way I urge you to contact him.
>
> Lonnie Chase
> chase1858(a)fgn.net
In the LWT of GIDEON ROGERS of Dartmouth,Bristol County,Mass. dated 23
October 1835,pr. 20 June 1836,he names his wife SARAH, and children:
son JEPTHA $5.00
son GIDEON $5.00
Daughter HANNAH WHALON ( or WHATON) $5.00
Daughter SYBILL WHALON $5.00
Daughter SARAH SAMSON $5.00
Children of my daughter RHODA CHASE dec'd,
PHEBE,JARED,JOB,ELIZABETH,JOHNATHAN,MARY,GARNER,EBENEZER,and GIDEON ( all
CHASE's)
Daughter POLLY HAIL (?) BURDEN $5.00
Son JOEL PACKARD ROGERS $5.00
Daughter LOIS REED $5.00
Son JOHN ROGERS my homestead farm and the residue of my estate and he to be
sole Executor. Witnesses: LEMUEL B. REED,WILLIAM REED and JOHN ROGERS.
I have nothing more on the family of RHODA ROGERS CHASE,but would like to
get more if any one has any. Thanks,Clyde
How often do we have someone going to England to search for
Chase/Chace information and willing to share it with the rest of us?
We need to unite behind Jeffery Chace and give him our support and
any helpful information available to us. What a thrill it would be
if he found solid information that has eluded everyone for so long,
be it for William, Aquila or Thomas. If you have anything that would
help him in any way I urge you to contact him.
Lonnie Chase
chase1858(a)fgn.net
Ok Enough!!!
Lets remember we are a HAPPY Friendly List.
When I started doing research in 1996 my sister (whom had been researching
for 10 years) told me, Lisa don't believe anything unless you can back it up
with documents of some kind. Even if someone sends you all the info your
looking for don't take if for the true unless 1. They include copies of the
documents 2. Or till you yourself are able to back it with documents.
I know it's not always easy to find the documents (try finding anything in
NJ and you'll know what I mean), expecially when your researching as far
back as Aquila and Thomas and also William CHASE. There are many on this
list that have tried to find information in England (some members actually
live there) with no results.
For those of you that are Newbies, Please always follow up with the
information you find expecially on the internet, Excuse me but there is a
lot of Garbage out there. In fact even the Book "Seven Generations of
Aquila and Thomas Chase" has some false information in it. Use it as a
guide in fact use anything you find as a guide until you can prove the
information as fact.
I may not have everything here right and do welcome any corrections.
Howbout it Senior Researchers?
Now lets get back to being helpful and help others in learning the TRUE
information on CHACE/CHASE Families.
Happy New Year,
Lisa Martin
In a message dated 12/28/01 4:54:22 PM Pacific Standard Time,
BeckyPiper1(a)worldnet.att.net writes:
> No doubt you have a rebuttal, as interesting and intelligent as it may
> sound, it does not change assumptions to fact
>
> Steven.
>
Now that's a real open mind! Just cut off any consideration of further
discussion by apparently declaring yourself the winner!! I'm not sure just
what your last sentence here really means by "assumptions to fact" (since it
lacks a period and appears to be incomplete, were you cut off ?) But
whatever... Unless we all join forces with the Queen of Hearts and in grand
Alice-in-Wonderland (or was it Through the Looking Glass?) style start
defining words to mean whatever we'd like them to, it remains that a fact, by
definition, must continue to mean provably true. QED
So, I am sorry, but I have no rebuttal (nor do I see any need for one),
eloquent or otherwise, and I just rest my case. Have a happy new year.
dick c