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Shirl10e(a)aol.com posted this message:
I am a great Granddaughter of Julia Crawford Foote, Nee Chase,
father was Edward Chase owner of the Tower Bluff Mansion on Broadway, I
would appreciate any information, thank you
I invited her to supply more information in the hope that someone connected
to her line. Here is the added info she sent. Any connections?
Dave White
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> From: Shirl10e(a)aol.com
> To: boda(a)ix.netcom.com
> Subject: Re: Chase Genealogy
> Date: Saturday, August 29, 1998 9:31 AM
>
> I have records going back quite far in the Chase genealogy, apparently I
am
> descended from William Chase and his wife Mary who came to America in
1630,
> and line continues, from his son William #2, thru his son Samuel and wife
> Sarah Sherman, their son John, who married Lydia Luther, through son John
> married, Elizabeth Baker, their son Luther B. Nov. 12, 1778, married
Sarah
> Davis 1-26-1812, and their 3rd son, Edward born 3-4-1824 my great-great
> grandfather, married Eliza Wood Alden (a direct descendant from John
Alden) m.
> 4-21-1847, through their daughter Julia Crawford Chase, b. Feb. 7, l857
who
> married Emerson Lee Foote in 1887. Edward Chase left Falls River Mass,
iin
> 1847 where they moved to St. Louis and he worked at the St. Louis
Clearing
> House. and built a large mansion, Tower Bluff Mansion on Broadway, which
was
> torn down in 1967 to allow the new 1-55 Highway to be built.
David & ALL,
Thank you to the 11 of you who contributed.
Please NO MORE contributions at the moment please!!
I am not sure just how much in Sterling you have transfered, Dave, as it is
a Holiday Week-End here but $170 equates to about 106 Pounds and I have not
contributed myself yet.
Last Saturday I sent the following letter to the College of Arms:-
College of Arms,
Queen Victoria St.,
London
EC4V 4BT
Dear Sir,
Chase Armorial Bearings.
Further to your letter of 30 June last I wish to proceed
with the research for any information regarding the name CHASE.
My original enquiry was in regard to The CHASE families believed
to have lived in the Essex area and nearby counties.
Further information suggests that there may have been a CHASE
living in Cornwall or Wales who may have been granted Armorial
Bearings. This information is passed to you from what I know
however I would not wish the research to be confined to those
areas alone.
I enclose a cheque for £120 as requested in your letter.
As I am acting not only on my own behalf but also of a world wide
group of family historians I would be pleased if you could advise
me of some idea of the time scale involved to complete this work,
yours sincerely,
K.N.HUME
At 18:08 30/08/98 -0700, you wrote:
>There is room for one more. Send $20 to:
>
>C. David White
>820 Sand Piper Ct NE
>Salem OR 97301
>
>Your contribution will make eleven of us in the states who are
>participating. I will send your mailing address to Keith when your funds
>arrive. I believe that will the stateside contribution $220 less the $30
>transfer fee.
>
>Dave White
>List Owner for Chase-L Mailing List
>E-mail: boda(a)ix.netcom.com
>CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html
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> or: unsubscribe
>
>
>----------
>> From: John Morrissey <searchn(a)gte.net>
>> To: boda(a)ix.netcom.com
>> Cc: khume(a)netcomuk.co.uk
>> Subject: Transfer fees
>> Date: Friday, August 28, 1998 1:23 PM
>>
>> Hello Dave & Keith,
>> If you will let me know where to do this, I will send you a check for
>the transfer fee's. It will be my part in this great adventure.
>> I have been gone, and have only been back a short while. My younger
>sister is terminal and very sick. The chemo makes it even worse. But I am
>home now and want to help with this project as well..
>>
>> Addie
>
>
I joined this list hoping to find information on a 3g uncle of mine. Obediah
CHASE m. Minerva Herd MERRITT (b. 1831 Grainger Co., TN, dtr of Edward
MERRITT and Sarah CARDEN MERRITT) 17 Nov 1850 in Grainger Co., TN. According
to an affidavit filed by Minerva's brothers Lewis MERRITT and Ancil Lee
MERRITT in 1876 (found in their father Edward MERRITT's War of 1812 pension
file), Minerva and Obediah had two daughters and four sons (names and dates
not given). In 1876 Minerva resided in Doniphan Co., KS.
Obediah "enlisted in Capt. Thomas Co. D old 13th or 25th Missouri Vols
commanded by Col. Peabody. Is said to have been killed in 1863 on the H. &
St. Joseph R.R. between Hanibal and St. Joseph by Bill Anderson's band of
rebel bushwhackers."
The 1880 Doniphan Co., KS census lists "Miranda" CHASE 42 in Burr Oak Twp.
Both she and her parents were b. in TN. She is found with her son Louis F.
CHASE 15 b. KS, his parents b. in TN. Allowing for the usual census
discrepancies, this may be Minerva and a son she was carrying at Obediah's
death.
I have not located the CHASEs in the 1860 census yet, nor have I found
Obediah in a CHASE family in TN in 1850. I am sending for Obediah's Civil
War pension file, but in the meantime, I'd like to hear from anyone who
might recognize the family. I have a lot of material on the MERRITTs, but
nothing on Obediah's parents or children.
Thanks!
Victoria Sullivan
vlsulliv(a)jps.net
Hi All!
Hope Joan is feeling better -- not a nice way to end your summer :(
I had this information from another list-serve: for information on
Vermont cemetaries to contat www.together.net/~btrutor/voca/vocahome.htm
I haven't checked the site so I would appreciate knowing how successful
you are.
I have 2-generation info on Chases in Northfield, Vermont but have been
a while since I sat in this list-serve, where are we with what info is
being submitted?
Darcy Chase Hoisington
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> Subject: [CHASE-L] Chase Cemetery Records
> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 21:31:23 EDT
> From: JoanA914(a)aol.com
> To: CHASE-L(a)rootsweb.com
>
> Good evening cousins,
>
> I apologize for not getting back to you sooner but I'm recovering from a mild
> case of food poisoning and haven't been checking my e-mails for the past
> couple of days. Feel free to e-mail cemetery records (remember, every one
> counts) if that is easier for you or you can mail them to
>
> Joan Gerrits
> 4505 Romlon Street
> #203
> Beltsville, Maryland 20705
Keith,
Which state are you referring to here? Each state has a depository / archives where data is also kept. Illinois IRAD for instance has four of them depending on which section of the state your researching. Most records are kept at the county level, again time frame plays a big factor there. The National Archives aka NARA has military, census, emigration records there.
Addie
At 04:22 AM 8/27/98 EDT, DerrU(a)aol.com wrote:
>Keith, as far as I know, birth, marriage and death records are kept at the
>court house in the county in which they occur. I don't believe there is any
>national archive for these records. US census records are held, I believe, by
>the US census bureau, and states that did additional census records are held
>by that state. If anyone knows differently, feel free to correct me on this.
>
>Sue
>
>
This is the correspondence rec. from the Archives Bureau in San Bruno CA.
They found my Joe Smith. Hope this will help someone researching in that
area.
Subj: Re: App. for U.S. Citizenship -Reply- Reply
Date: 98-08-21 19:07:24 EDT
From: archives(a)sanbruno.nara.gov (NAB San Bruno)
To: PurrsPaws(a)aol.com
This automated response acknowledges receipt of your inquiry about
services and holdings of the National Archives - Pacific Region (NRHS) in San
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Subj: App. for U.S. Citizenship -Reply
Date: 98-08-21 12:38:39 EDT
From: archives(a)sanbruno.nara.gov (NAB San Bruno)
To: PurrsPaws(a)aol.com
August 17,1998
<PurrsPaws(a)aol.com>
Dear Ms. Marchbanks:
This responds to your letter of August 11,1998, which we received on August
8,1998 requesting copy of the Petition for Naturalization for Joseph Smith.
NARA's Pacific Region (San Francisco) holds some naturalization records
transferred from Federal courts in northern California, Hawaii, and Nevada.
These naturalization records were originated by U.S. district and circuit
courts in Honolulu, Reno, Sacramento, and San Francisco. In addition to these
Federal court records, we hold naturalization records of two Nevada state
courts, the First District Court of Nevada at Fallon (Churchill County) and
the Second District Court of Nevada at Reno (Washoe County), and one
California county court, the Marin County Superior Court. Our records
document naturalization transactions performed during the specified time
periods in the following courts:
District Court, Northern District of California (San Francisco), 1851-1971
Circuit Court, Northern District of California (San Francisco), 1855-1911
District Court, Eastern District of California (Sacramento), 1917-1958
District Court, District of Hawaii, 1900-1995
District Court, District of Nevada, 1868-1929 (microfilm only)
State Court, First District, Churchill County, Fallon, Nevada, 1877-1956
State Court, Second District, Washoe County, Reno, Nevada, 1853-1949
Superior Court, Marin County, California, 1871-1957
A search was conducted of the San Francisco Naturalization Index and a record
was found for Joseph Smith.
If you would like a copy of this document, please be advised that because your
order is less than 20 pages, there is a minimun fee for mail-order
reproduction applies. Please make your check or money order of $10.00 payable
to the *National Archives Trust Fund*. When you mail your payment to us,
please specify the identifying copy order.
Sincerely,
Gloria C. Legaspi
Archives Technician
Archival Operation Staff
.
Would anyone know if the U.S.has a Government Records Archive similar to
Canada and United Kingdom or are the records of births,deaths and marriages
also censuses kept at State Archives?
Keith Hume
Keith Hume,
email khume(a)netcomuk.co.uk
CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.htmlhttp://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~khume/home.html
Kent,England
Researching:- HULME,DAWSON,(In Lancs.)
HUME,McKAY, (In New Brunswick & Nova Scotia
SHERMAN,SIMMONS,HATHAWAY AND CHASE,(In USA & Canada)
SHERRING & BLUNDEN (Hampshire,England)
FALL,(Ireland & Australia)
BUTCHER,PAYNE/PAINE,BURCKITT(Bedfordshire,England)
I hope you all won't flame me, but I really messed up. Am writing this to
let everyone who has sent information for either the Chase or Tuscola pages
to me in the last month to know that I lost ALL my e-mail, including
information submitted for the pages. I don't know how I could be so
stupid.
I apologize and ask everyone who has sent info. to please send it to me
again. I will NOT lose it again. It is for either the Chase or Tuscola
pages.
Apologies and deep embarrassment.
Debbie
axtman(a)premier1.net
Keith, as far as I know, birth, marriage and death records are kept at the
court house in the county in which they occur. I don't believe there is any
national archive for these records. US census records are held, I believe, by
the US census bureau, and states that did additional census records are held
by that state. If anyone knows differently, feel free to correct me on this.
Sue
I think you do a great service Keith. You are the soul of the list.
Besides, what kind of family would we be if we never dissagreed on
anything?
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> From: k.hume <khume(a)netcomuk.co.uk>
> To: CHASE-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: [CHASE-L] Re: Broderbund
> Date: Tuesday, August 25, 1998 11:43 PM
>
> ALL,
> I do seem to have started something. However I do believe some people
may
> be straying from the issue. I asked the Group's opinion about submitting
the
> Chase database to Broderbund. From my point of view if ONE person only,
who
> has contributed data to the Database, objects then that is it I would not
> send it.
(snip)
Should the need ever arise again, I will check with our post office, too.
(However, for me this is the first time in 52 years. So, I probably won't
call them tomorrow.) The whole process has been really interesting and the
search hasn't even started!
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> From: k.hume <khume(a)netcomuk.co.uk>
> To: C D White <boda(a)ix.netcom.com>
> Cc: CHASE-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [CHASE-L] Coat of Arms
> Date: Tuesday, August 25, 1998 11:43 PM
>
> Hi,Dave,
> Thanks for the info. I will check with the Bank tomorrow,(Wednesday) and
> get moving on this.
> $30 for a transfer. It is about the same here but we now have a postal
one
> which is 7 pounds about $11,
> Keith Hume
> At 20:27 24/08/98 -0700, you wrote:
> >Hello Chase-folk:
> >
> >Just to keep you up to date, I wired the search funds to Keith Hume
today.
> >The exchange rate should be about 1.6925 to the dollar when the wire
goes
> >out in the morning. The fee was $30 !!! Bank of America said it is the
> >wire fee, regardless of the amount wired. I took $15 from the $200 and
> >tossed in the other $15 so something would still end up in Keith's
account.
> > I am happy not to be routinely engaged in international finance.
(Though,
> >if we do something like this again, I would probably serve.)
> >
> >Keith has the ten contributor's names and addresses. Thanks to all.
And
> >here is hoping we get some new information.
> >
> >Dave White
> >List Owner for Chase-L Mailing List
> >E-mail: boda(a)ix.netcom.com
> >CHASE-L Website at:-
http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html
> >To subscribe or unsubscribe from the Chase-L list, send a NEW
> >e-mail message to: CHASE-L-request(a)rootsweb.com
> >or CHASE-D-request(a)rootsweb.com (for digest mode)
> >with only one word in the body: subscribe
> > or: unsubscribe
> >
> >
> >
>
ALL,
I do seem to have started something. However I do believe some people may
be straying from the issue. I asked the Group's opinion about submitting the
Chase database to Broderbund. From my point of view if ONE person only, who
has contributed data to the Database, objects then that is it I would not
send it.
It is obvious that those who want to send their data to Broderbund are free
to do so.
One thing has been made clear to me and that is that there appear to be
some who do not understand the wording of Broderbund's Copyright statement
and have been concerned that if they gave their data to Broderbund then
they, the contributor, would not be able to use it, for publication, in the
future. That is not so and Broderbund, I think, make this clear in
statements they make.
My views on Broderbund's Copyright are well known but I would be seriously
concerned if data I contributed turned up on one of their CD's without my
permission.
I have taken the trouble to ensure I can identify my own data where ever it
appears. This concern has nothing to do with me protecting that data. It has
everything to do with someone claiming ANY type of right or restriction on
it and for Broderbund to say they would restrict the use of MY information,
to ANYONE, without my permission,I find distasteful.
I was however prepared to go along with it if no one else objected
Keith Hume
Keith Hume,
email khume(a)netcomuk.co.uk
CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.htmlhttp://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~khume/home.html
Kent,England
Researching:- HULME,DAWSON,(In Lancs.)
HUME,McKAY, (In New Brunswick & Nova Scotia
SHERMAN,SIMMONS,HATHAWAY AND CHASE,(In USA & Canada)
SHERRING & BLUNDEN (Hampshire,England)
FALL,(Ireland & Australia)
BUTCHER,PAYNE/PAINE,BURCKITT(Bedfordshire,England)
Hi,Dave,
Thanks for the info. I will check with the Bank tomorrow,(Wednesday) and
get moving on this.
$30 for a transfer. It is about the same here but we now have a postal one
which is 7 pounds about $11,
Keith Hume
At 20:27 24/08/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Hello Chase-folk:
>
>Just to keep you up to date, I wired the search funds to Keith Hume today.
>The exchange rate should be about 1.6925 to the dollar when the wire goes
>out in the morning. The fee was $30 !!! Bank of America said it is the
>wire fee, regardless of the amount wired. I took $15 from the $200 and
>tossed in the other $15 so something would still end up in Keith's account.
> I am happy not to be routinely engaged in international finance. (Though,
>if we do something like this again, I would probably serve.)
>
>Keith has the ten contributor's names and addresses. Thanks to all. And
>here is hoping we get some new information.
>
>Dave White
>List Owner for Chase-L Mailing List
>E-mail: boda(a)ix.netcom.com
>CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html
>To subscribe or unsubscribe from the Chase-L list, send a NEW
>e-mail message to: CHASE-L-request(a)rootsweb.com
>or CHASE-D-request(a)rootsweb.com (for digest mode)
>with only one word in the body: subscribe
> or: unsubscribe
>
>
>
I agree. And, with Rex as well. Submitting our own work may be the
simplest approach.
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> From: Debbie Axtman <axtman(a)premier1.net>
> To: CHASE-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [CHASE-L] Gendex and You Know Who
> Date: Tuesday, August 25, 1998 11:12 AM
>
> I do not think Broderbund is evil - - I use their products and have
> contributed my Spencer line to them- - My point was that I thought maybe
> people would want to submit their own info. to Broderbund....I am in no
way
> against it.
>
> D
>
I do not think Broderbund is evil - - I use their products and have
contributed my Spencer line to them- - My point was that I thought maybe
people would want to submit their own info. to Broderbund....I am in no way
against it.
D
G'morning,
This is an interesting thread to say the least! Many different opinions.
I can tell you that I also have numerous of the
(Broderbund) products. I also have used the tools located on their web site as well.
The NEGHS did contract Broderbund for manufacturing their cd package.
A lot of libraries do use them, thanks to people who have donated them to the libraries. Atleast in the case here, that is how they have acquired them.
I also know from experience with Broderbund that when you request a search and find that it indeed is your line or connected to it, that unless you OWN that cd, you are not able to electronically request the submitters information any longer. You must call their office, and if you get someone who knows what they are doing, you will receive the information so that you can contact the submitter. Not at all, always an easy task.
I can also tell you that on their ftm-tech list your not allowed to ask questions about information on cd's nor are you allowed to ask help in obtaining submitters data.
As far as submitting data to them. That is a choice we have as individuals. I personally feel that any submitter of data regardless of what the data is, should receive some sort of discount on a purchase of one of their research tools. After all they are taking your information and making money on it by publishing and selling their cd's. Information which you / we all worked hard to acquire by spending countless hours digging and looking, not to mention the money each individual has invested as well in their research. You, as a researcher, should equally be compensated just as Broderbund is when they sell your data along with others. It all adds up down the road. Again, how can anyone hold a copyright on a public document?
I also know from having several of their cd's that there are restrictions listed on each cd. Example from one cd I have is listed here.
They state as follows:
Use this Family Archive CD responsibly. This Family Archive CD has been licensed to you for your personal use. It is copyrighted, and must be used in accordance with its License Agreement. You are in violation of the License Agreement if you make all or part of a Family Archive available to more than one person at a time, if you upload all or part of a Family Archive's contents onto an electronic bulletin board, or if you circulate a printout taken straight off the Family Archive. For more specific information about your license to use this Family Archive, please read the License Agreement below.
License Agreement
You may not:
1. Allow more than one user at a time.
2. Reproduce, publish, distribute, or sell any data on the Family
Archive CDs.
3. Use the software and/or data on a network or bulletin board or
place it in a multi-user environment without express written
permission of Brøderbund Software.
4. Lease or rent the software, data, documentation or their use to any other individual or entity.
5. Disassemble, decompile or reverse engineer the software or data.
But the above is just my opinion,
Addie
I, like David, must wonder just what the ill-will toward Broderbund is really
all about. I use their products, including the voluminous data that they make
available (for a price, admittedly, but after all, they are in business for
reasons other than to give you free stuff). Their copyright is, as David
points out, neither unreasonable nor unique. My suggestion to close this issue
is that each individual do whatever he or she wants with respect to giving or
not giving Broderbund the data that he or she independently developed, and
leave both the Chase rootsweb data base and the other contributing individuals
be.
Keith and all, I don't want to start a war. This is not the list for
arguments over commercial genealogical services. And, I know some folk
hold a strong dislike for Broderbund, though I have no idea why.
This is what the FTM contributer agreement says:
"By contributing your family tree to the World Family Tree Project, you
give Broderbund Software, Incorporated, your permission to reproduce,
compile, and distribute all information in your contributed Family File.
The World Family Tree CDs are copyrighted; however, our copyright does not
limit you from publishing your own family information as you see fit, nor
from selling it or giving it to others."
Now, from my research, I note that most bound and published genealogical
research reports seem to be copywrighted. So, I don't find Broderbund's
provision surprising. I love their online search functions and library. I
have had many contacts thanks to those who use FTM's site.
FTM must not be entirely evil. Our state library and genealogical society
members make wide use of the FTM disks. NEHGS sells them. The online
library at FTM has the full text of the Chamberlain report on Chases. I
have found some wonderful stuff there on Chase, Mason, Craycraft, Sherman
and others of my lines.
Gendex appears to me to be another company just trying to make a profit.
I have no complaints about them either. We give them our data for free,
too.
However, they sell our data, too, just as if it were copywrighted. I am
not
sure I understand theircharging method, but they seem fine, as long as they
continue their on-line service. Broderbund offers one tiny advantage.
After
they sell their CDs the information is still out there, even if they cease
to be
on-line. Someday, like other companies have, they could even sell
their/our
data to Broderbund!
I remain comfortable with either or both firms. I am also comfortable with
several others. Sharing information is the thing that keeps genealogy
alive. I would still go for wide spread distribution to reach all the
Chases who ever come along. But, I also support going with Gendex.
Dave White
List Owner for Chase-L Mailing List
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Hello Chase-folk:
Just to keep you up to date, I wired the search funds to Keith Hume today.
The exchange rate should be about 1.6925 to the dollar when the wire goes
out in the morning. The fee was $30 !!! Bank of America said it is the
wire fee, regardless of the amount wired. I took $15 from the $200 and
tossed in the other $15 so something would still end up in Keith's account.
I am happy not to be routinely engaged in international finance. (Though,
if we do something like this again, I would probably serve.)
Keith has the ten contributor's names and addresses. Thanks to all. And
here is hoping we get some new information.
Dave White
List Owner for Chase-L Mailing List
E-mail: boda(a)ix.netcom.com
CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html
To subscribe or unsubscribe from the Chase-L list, send a NEW
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