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Hello again
Sorry I am getting confused with having had both yourself and another
Charleton researcher contacting me on the same day regarding the same
subject of the Charletons of Sandiacre etc.
In reply to your question, yes I have no objection with this information
being shared so long as it stimulates others to add to or help clarify the
subject as to where the family fits together.
Stephen
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From: "Deana Carter-Smith" <Jaguarkat(a)cox.net>
To: <CHARLTON-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:27 AM
Subject: Re: [CHARLTON] Re: Charleton
> Would you be willing to share this information with the board?
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> From: <burkett.martin(a)ntlworld.com>
> To: <CHARLTON-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 2:29 PM
> Subject: [CHARLTON] Re: Charleton
>
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> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.
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> > Surnames: Charlton
> > Classification: Query
> >
> > Message Board URL:
> >
> > http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/GWI.2ACIB/150.3.1
> >
> > Message Board Post:
> >
> > I have a paper copy of a family tree for the Charltons of Sandiacre
dated
> > 1842. This was researched by Thomas Broughton Charlton of Chilwell who
is
> > buried in Attenborough churchyard. He is descended from Thomas Charlton
> > of Sandiacre (1561-1631) who is buried under the alter of Sandiacre
> > church.
> >
> > Sir Richard Charleton, Lord of the manors of Hillingdon, Edmonton and
> > Ickenham did indeed die at the battle of Bosworth fighting on the side
of
> > Richard III. As this was the losing side, his family was attainted by
act
> > of parliament and lost the arms and the rights to their lands. Thomas
> > Charlton (1561-1631) of Sandiacre regained the arms of the family by
deed
> > of confirmation from the Herald's College in 1612.
> >
> > The family tree I have claims the Charltons of Sandiacre were descended
> > from the Charletons of Hillingdon, Ickenham and Edmonton, but there is a
> > gap in the line of about 50 years between the death of Sir Richard and
the
> > birth of Thomas' father who I think is your Thomas born about 1520. I
> > don't know what proof they gave the College of Arms in 1612 but I would
be
> > very interested to find any information you have on this as my wife is
> > descended from the Charltons of Sandiacre and Chilwell. I can give you
> > copies of my data from the paper tree. If the link between Sandiacre
and
> > Edmonton can be proved it adds another ten generations of the family.
> >
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Dear Deana
Many thanks for replying to my posting of some time back I think.
Yes I have been working on and off on the Charletons of Sandiacre for some
time, mainly as I am the editor for the Sandiacre History Group's
newsletter.
My interest began when writng an article for the newsletter based on a
number of Charleton wills I obtained from the PRO.
Thinking it would be relatively straight forward to follow this prominent
family back I began to gather as much material as possible, only to find
that every one who had followed this line back came unstuck at the point at
which the first Charleton to arrive at Sandiacre about the time of Edward VI
circa 1550 ish.
However there did appear, as you mentioned, the link to the Charletons of
Hillingdon and Sir Richard who died at Bosworth in 1485.
Then there is the link via the arms of the Charletons of Sandiacre with
being almost identical with those of Sir Richard.
I have since discovered that Sir Richard's wife was left with a certain
amount of wealth (how much I don't know) after her husands death, and that
he let a son John who was 8 years old at the time of Bosworth. Sir Richard
also left at least 1 daughter.
Assuming he grew to manhood and married in his early 20s he would have been
producing a son or sons around 1500.
Recently I have made contact with a gentleman at Chilwell whose property
stands over the remains of one of the Chilwell Halls and who has given me a
basic tree claiming/showing/suggesting, that our first Thomas Charleton born
circa 1520, was the son of a Michael Charleton of Lancashire.
Taking into account the time period, it would or could be that Michael was
the son of Sir Richard's son John. The second Thomas Charleton as you
probably know christened his eldest son and heir with the name of Michael, I
think he died in his early 20s and the line passed to the next son and heir.
If the information I have gathered is correct, this would appear to finally
link our Charletons to Sir Richard and therefore back even further.
It did occure to me that after Thomas' arrival at Sandiacre around the mid
1500s, the family grew to some considerable standing within a very short
period of time. Something one would expet from a family with already close
ties to other persons of influence i.e land owners, money men etc etc.
I would be very keen to see or hear of what you have regarding this family
as I have had my mebers at the History Group on tender hooks for ages
waiting for me to crack the mystery.
Anything thing which may add to or disprove what I have would be of great
interest and very gratefully received
Stephen Flinders (Tel: 0115 854 8373) at Sandiacre.
Would you be willing to share this information with the board?
----- Original Message -----
From: <burkett.martin(a)ntlworld.com>
To: <CHARLTON-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 2:29 PM
Subject: [CHARLTON] Re: Charleton
> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.
>
> Surnames: Charlton
> Classification: Query
>
> Message Board URL:
>
> http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/GWI.2ACIB/150.3.1
>
> Message Board Post:
>
> I have a paper copy of a family tree for the Charltons of Sandiacre dated
> 1842. This was researched by Thomas Broughton Charlton of Chilwell who is
> buried in Attenborough churchyard. He is descended from Thomas Charlton
> of Sandiacre (1561-1631) who is buried under the alter of Sandiacre
> church.
>
> Sir Richard Charleton, Lord of the manors of Hillingdon, Edmonton and
> Ickenham did indeed die at the battle of Bosworth fighting on the side of
> Richard III. As this was the losing side, his family was attainted by act
> of parliament and lost the arms and the rights to their lands. Thomas
> Charlton (1561-1631) of Sandiacre regained the arms of the family by deed
> of confirmation from the Herald's College in 1612.
>
> The family tree I have claims the Charltons of Sandiacre were descended
> from the Charletons of Hillingdon, Ickenham and Edmonton, but there is a
> gap in the line of about 50 years between the death of Sir Richard and the
> birth of Thomas' father who I think is your Thomas born about 1520. I
> don't know what proof they gave the College of Arms in 1612 but I would be
> very interested to find any information you have on this as my wife is
> descended from the Charltons of Sandiacre and Chilwell. I can give you
> copies of my data from the paper tree. If the link between Sandiacre and
> Edmonton can be proved it adds another ten generations of the family.
>
>
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Surnames: Charlton
Classification: Query
Message Board URL:
http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/GWI.2ACIB/150.3.1
Message Board Post:
I have a paper copy of a family tree for the Charltons of Sandiacre dated 1842. This was researched by Thomas Broughton Charlton of Chilwell who is buried in Attenborough churchyard. He is descended from Thomas Charlton of Sandiacre (1561-1631) who is buried under the alter of Sandiacre church.
Sir Richard Charleton, Lord of the manors of Hillingdon, Edmonton and Ickenham did indeed die at the battle of Bosworth fighting on the side of Richard III. As this was the losing side, his family was attainted by act of parliament and lost the arms and the rights to their lands. Thomas Charlton (1561-1631) of Sandiacre regained the arms of the family by deed of confirmation from the Herald's College in 1612.
The family tree I have claims the Charltons of Sandiacre were descended from the Charletons of Hillingdon, Ickenham and Edmonton, but there is a gap in the line of about 50 years between the death of Sir Richard and the birth of Thomas' father who I think is your Thomas born about 1520. I don't know what proof they gave the College of Arms in 1612 but I would be very interested to find any information you have on this as my wife is descended from the Charltons of Sandiacre and Chilwell. I can give you copies of my data from the paper tree. If the link between Sandiacre and Edmonton can be proved it adds another ten generations of the family.
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Surnames: Charlton / Sanders
Classification: Query
Message Board URL:
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GWI.2ACIB/583
Message Board Post:
Seeking info. on this couple...They were in Calloway Co.Ky. when Judah/Judeth/Judith died in 1852.(dau. of John Sanders)Its says on census he was born in New Hampshire...Just trying to find out if he is kin to my Charlton's that also were in same county??
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Surnames: Charlton,Fowler, Holley,Jackson,etc.
Classification: Query
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Message Board Post:
Seeking info. on Ann Jane Charlton, dau. of Elijah Charlton & Jane Fowler....She had siblings Richard Alfred Charlton, Wm. Edwin Charlton (Bur. in Marshall Co.TN.), Mary Scott Charlton,James Henry Charlton d.in Calloway Co.Ky., Frederick Geo.Charlton, Robert Turner b.1830-d.in Calloway Co.Ky, Harriett Catherine married John Robert Holley in Calloway Co.Ky.but they died around Garland Texas, Melville Monroe Charlton, may be buried in Marshall Co.TN?? Any info. at all and would love old photos of any of them.!!! I have James Henry's photo.who was my ggGrandfather..
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Surnames: Charlton
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Seeking info on this Frederick George Charlton, probably born in Va or Tn.?? Son of Elijah & Jane (Fowler) Charlton..Elijah & Jane married about 1816 in Cumberland Co. Va. & was named in Marshall Co.TN. and may have lived in Calloway Co.Ky., also..Their daughter Harriett Catherine married John Robert Holley in Calloway Co.Ky.But they died around Garland Texas..Where did the other siblings live, die, marry, etc.??
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Seeking info on Mary Scott Charlton, maybe born in Va?? Daughter of Elijah & Jane (fowler) Charlton
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Surnames: Charlton
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Message Board Post:
Seeking info. on Richard Alfred Charlton b.abt.Feb.7,1818,maybe in VA. son of Elijah & Jane (Fowler) Charlton.
I would like to know what proof there is that Christopher Charlton [Chalton]
is the father of Abraham Charlton who appears in in court proceedings, land
transfers, etc in VA in 1756.
Ann at annh1198(a)aol.com
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Surnames: Charlton, Blanton, Anglea, Graff, Mell, Carpenter
Classification: Query
Message Board URL:
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GWI.2ACIB/535.1.1
Message Board Post:
Clarence, are your relatives from Abraham and Judith Blanton? They were my 4th Great Grandparents by way of John M, Lewis Cass, Lucy Jane Charlton who married Lafayette Mell. They had Susan Mary Mell my Grandmother.
You mentioned family Trees. Where can I research more on the Charlton's.
I have more info on them if you need more. I will be moving back to SW Missouri this summer and will be going to Hickory County to do hands on.
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Surnames: Charlton, Graff, Anglea, Kennedy, Mell, Carpenter
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Jerry, my Great Great Grandfather was Lewis Cass Charlton brother to your Benjamin Franklin. Lewis was born 15 Aug. 1848 making him 2 years older than Benjamin.
I have other info on the family if you need anymore.
I will be moving back to SW Mo. where I will do more on hands research in Hickory Co. Mo.
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I am so glad that you were able to use the posted information and that it filled in some blanks for you. If you should need anything else, let me know and I will see what I have.
Your reply makes the search worthwhile! Mary
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Surnames: Charlton, Graff, Mell, Carpenter, James
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Mary, this posting answered questions my family has had. I could go back as far as Marcus Graff b 1820 MD who married Susan M. b 1822 KY but could go back no further.
Thanks to your info. I have more to go on. Marcus's daughter Mary Emily Graff married Louis Cass Charlton. They had Lucy Jane 1871 who married Lafayette Mell. They were my Great Grandparents.
The Graff and Charlton crosses again. There alot of Charlton relatives in SW Missouri. If anyone wants more on them, just e-mail me.