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Hi Chappy cousins,
I have a Chapman family book called "A Genealogy of the Chapman Family" from
1700 to 1952. I bought it from ebay a year or so ago. It is not my branch of
the Chapmans. I would be willing to pass it on to anyone who is of this
branch. The writer was Rev. Hamilton E. Chapman of Worcester, Mass. There is a
newspaper obituary, (that was cut out and is loose inside the cover) of Levi S.
Chapman it includes a picture of him in the article and is dated Feb. 11, 54
in ink pen at the top. The book starts with John Chapman, the progenitor of
North Stonington, Connecticut and Westerly, Rhode Island who married Sarah
Brown. He was the son of John and Joanna Sumner Chapman of London, England.
This is a hand made booklet type book and seems pretty complete as far as
places, dates, marriages and children are concerned. If this is your ancestor
please contact me on this list. Thanks.
Peggy Chapman
mari,
Please remove me from the Chapman email list
Carl Lefevre
--- Mari <ddmmjm(a)netins.net> wrote:
> At 04:45 PM 11/20/2004,OLDNONI(a)cs.com wrote:
> >Hi Ho Rees and Gang!
>
> <snipped>
>
> >So Rees, get the DNA kit and get to swabbing!! We
> may be related!!
> >
> >Cuz Noni
>
> Oh my Word!!!
>
> Noni and Rees?!
>
> Lookout everyone! LOL
>
> Mari
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For part of that time, Rootsweb server was down for Lists5, which if memory
serves, includes the Chapman-L.
As for removing a post from the Archives, RW usually won't do so unless it
is of dire need that it be done.
Sooooo am afraid your post, Bridgett, is there for posterity! <g>
Mari
Former Chapman List Admin
At 06:25 PM 11/22/2004,Bridgett wrote:
>Phil, at least it wasn't bad. I answered a post some time ago for my Jacob
>Chapman. Without every changing the subject line a "major bashing" began to
>take on a life of its own all under the heading of my poor old ancestor. I
>would like to have it removed but am afraid to ask.
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
> > To: CHAPMAN-L(a)rootsweb.com
> > Subject: Traffic
> >
> > Anyone - Is it just me, or is there no one posting to this list. I
>haven't
> > received a message since October 30. Phil White
> >
James Ira CHATMAN was born in Falls O' Rough or Louisville, Kentucky
between 1898-1900. His mother was Mary Elizabeth POTTS (also known as
Lizzie B.) who married Jeremiah MCGREW and at the 1910 census had been
married about 10 years. The earliest record I have of James Ira is the
1910 census when the family was in Breckinridge Co., Kentucky. James
Ira is shown as 12 at that time though his draft registration card
indicates he was born 30 Aug. 1900. I would very much like to find his
exact birth information and place of birth as well as his father's name.
James Ira's last name on his draft registration card looks like it could
be CHAPMAN. The family moved to Arkansas by 1915. Can anyone help?
Thanks.
Deborah
Interesting that you have a Chapman+Davis connection in New York. My
Grandmother, Carrie Frances Davis, married Rupert Leander Chapman Sr in Bruce, MS.
This Davis line goes back to Virginia, though, with no detectable New York
connection.
Rupert L. Chapman III
I don't think that it is personal when people do not respond to your posted
message.......they don't connect to the people that your message is about and
they probably delete.......I have posted many messages that I never get a
reply to.......just like you.......and I have deleted many messages that I don't
connect to............but if we keep posting a message from time to time,
some day, someone is going to respond and it will be a NEW COUSIN. Now, how
fun will that be???!!!! We have to be patient......and persistent.
Marsha
I don't post anymore as I don't think anyone reads anything I post. They
don't reply either. So now I just read whatever comes in.
CHAPMAN-D-request(a)rootsweb.com wrote:
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> ATTACHMENT part 6 message/rfc822
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:26:04 -0500
From: "Phillip White"
To: CHAPMAN-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Traffic
Anyone - Is it just me, or is there no one posting to this list. I haven't
received a message since October 30. Phil White
Dear Friends,
The preponderance of CHAPMAN as a given name over 4 generations
strongly suggests a link between the CHAPMAN and DAVIS families,
which is why I am appealing to readers of the CHAPMAN mailing list.
The question is, can anyone show a link between a CHAPMAN family and
my DAVIS line in that time period on Long Island, or perhaps CT, MA,
RI, etc. or even New York City? Here is the background.
Chapman DAVIS (1758-1837) was the son of Eliakim DAVIS (1721-1808)
and Thankful _____ (b. 1730, d 8 Apr 1815). Chapman DAVIS m.
Elizabeth CORWIN and they had 7 children, one of whom was named
Chapman, Jr. (1789-1848). Chapman Jr. and his wife, Mary WELLS,
named one of their 4 children John Chapman DAVIS. John Chapman DAVIS
and his wife, Mary Ann TERRY, had a son, John Chapman DAVIS Jr., who
died at age 6. The family lived in the Town of Brookhaven, Long
Island, NY, possibly in the hamlet of Mt. Sinai or nearby.
Eliakim was the son of Benjamin DAVIS (1690-1770) and Phebe _____.
I will appreciate any help - suggestions - insight - and I thank you!
If additional details would be helpful, please ask - I may have
overlooked some useful information. I posted a similar inquiry last
October, but overlooked mentioning a location (Brookhaven, Long
Island), and was in error in giving the name of Benjamin DAVIS' wife,
which was Phebe, NOT Rebecca.
Regards,
Stu Hotchkiss, Williamson, NY
stuh(a)verizon.net
I love to send stuff - if I think it is appreciated. It mystifies me how you
can prove a relationship 10 different ways, are happy to share, only to find
the person receiving is ? afraid? to change what they have already. Then you
realize you have not contacted a researcher but a collector of information. I
am afraid that there are many such persons on the internet. I recently
contacted a woman with a bunch of "misinformation" I felt good about it, like I
had given her a gift that took 30 years and I dug out every nuggett at quite an
expense.
She said "are you sure" "where can I download this information" I find that
collectors, unlike researchers, do not have an understanding of what research
is about. Well, I have blathered on long enough.
Carla
In a message dated 11/20/2004 10:59:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,
kkcm_2000(a)yahoo.com writes:
I don't post anymore as I don't think anyone reads anything I post. They
don't reply either. So now I just read whatever comes in.
Hi
I read all of the Chapman List messages. I reply to the ones who connect to
my line or where I can contribute.
(I haven't done any research on the Isaac who is currently under discussion,
but I am most interested in reading the posts from the ones who have.)
Please continue to post. You never know who may read your current message or
archived messages.
If the subject has a name/location & date (exact or estimated) it is more
likely to be read.
Good luck
Sandi
descendant of the following through my maternal grandfather
Isaac>John>George>Archibald(Archer)>Archibald Webster>Archibald
Webster>George Chapman
Ya got me. I never heard of these particular Chapmans. Although, it's
certainly not the first time DAR accounts differed from the ancestral record
- our Isaac's origins included.
Rees
>Rees
>
>Do you have any info on Thomas Chapman & Lydia Harding that was in the DAR?
>I
>have Anna Chapman as daughter to Jabez Chapman & Anna Beebe. I found this
>info in the CT records. I can't find any proof at this time to back up the
>Thomas
>& Lydia.
>
>Jabez Chapman & Anna Beebe
>children
>Anna (mine) that married Russell Day
>Oliver
>Hosea
>Oliver
>Rosena
>Utilla
>Jabez
>Warren
>I would like to know why in the DAR they think otherwise. Carol
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Hi everyone
The Chapman list is on List5. The server was down for maintenance for over a
week. You will see post come through that were posted a while ago. The list is
working fine and you should be able to send and receive mail now. Carol
Rees
Do you have any info on Thomas Chapman & Lydia Harding that was in the DAR? I
have Anna Chapman as daughter to Jabez Chapman & Anna Beebe. I found this
info in the CT records. I can't find any proof at this time to back up the Thomas
& Lydia.
Jabez Chapman & Anna Beebe
children
Anna (mine) that married Russell Day
Oliver
Hosea
Oliver
Rosena
Utilla
Jabez
Warren
I would like to know why in the DAR they think otherwise. Carol
I read each and every post dealing with my Chapman line. The great majority of these posts do not apply to my direct line, however, some times, there is a reference to a name that "rings a bell" and leads me to another connection to my ancestory. Please, don't stop posting here. Those of us who are "ancestorily challenged" need to see your posts and continue making connections. I, for one, appreciate your efforts.
Michael in Las Vegas
Michael in Las Vegas
I don't post anymore as I don't think anyone reads anything I post. They don't reply either. So now I just read whatever comes in.
CHAPMAN-D-request(a)rootsweb.com wrote:
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> ATTACHMENT part 6 message/rfc822
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:26:04 -0500
From: "Phillip White"
To: CHAPMAN-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Traffic
Anyone - Is it just me, or is there no one posting to this list. I haven't
received a message since October 30. Phil White
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Thomas Chapman, Sr.
B 1775 Frederick Co VA
M 24Dec1797 Frederick Co VA to Mary "Polly" Stone
D Sep1843 Madison Co OH near Newport
-----Original Message-----
From: OLDNONI(a)cs.com [mailto:OLDNONI@cs.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 4:46 PM
To: CHAPMAN-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CHAPMAN] Isaac / Thomas Chapman
Hi Ho Rees and Gang!
Lets put to bed the "Thomas & Elizabeth Chapman" in
Charles Co. Maryland first. They had 2 children, Thomas (Jr.)
born 1690, then Mary in 1693.----Thomas (Sr.) died in 1701,
Elizabeth his wife was Admr. of his Estate. (which I have a
copy of)--------- George Roberts work in tying Thomas
Chapman back to the Thomas of 1610, I fully believe was a
lot of "wishful" thinking and with only a few records at his time.
Now I would like to locate your Isaac also, and also the Israel
that I did find in Charles Co. VA. I have proven my own line now
back to Richard & Mary Chapman in Frederick Co. VA in 1730/40.
But where did they come from ????? --Giles Chapman and family
were there at the same time, but we know where in England he was
born. Gets confusing, doesn't it!
So Rees, get the DNA kit and get to swabbing!! We may be related!!
Cuz Noni
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Hi Ho Rees and Gang!
Lets put to bed the "Thomas & Elizabeth Chapman" in
Charles Co. Maryland first. They had 2 children, Thomas (Jr.)
born 1690, then Mary in 1693.----Thomas (Sr.) died in 1701,
Elizabeth his wife was Admr. of his Estate. (which I have a
copy of)--------- George Roberts work in tying Thomas
Chapman back to the Thomas of 1610, I fully believe was a
lot of "wishful" thinking and with only a few records at his time.
Now I would like to locate your Isaac also, and also the Israel
that I did find in Charles Co. VA. I have proven my own line now
back to Richard & Mary Chapman in Frederick Co. VA in 1730/40.
But where did they come from ????? --Giles Chapman and family
were there at the same time, but we know where in England he was
born. Gets confusing, doesn't it!
So Rees, get the DNA kit and get to swabbing!! We may be related!!
Cuz Noni
Hey, Chapmans, lissen up!
Noni posted on the VaGiles list:
>John Chapman's father was Isaac Chapman, born in Charles Co., Maryland and
>married Sarah Cole in Culpeper Co., Virginia.
Once again whoopin' on that dead horse, I responded:
>I continue to challenge the "myth" that Isaac Chapman (who married Sarah
>Cole) was of the Charles Co. MD line through Thomas. Like most myths, it
>could be true, but there's no supporting evidence, save a terribly flawed
>document from a genealogist-for-hire: George Roberts Genealogy of Joseph
>Peck (1955).
At which point, we heard from Paula. . .
>As chance would have it I live in Charles Co., MD, what do we need on Isaac
>to prove this one way or the other? Do we have identifying data on the
>Isaac Chapman of Charles Co.? Or perhaps a copy of Robert's work? I'm not
>promising anything because Chapman is a common name here and always has
>been, but I would be willing to give it a try. Paula
plwiegand(a)comcast.net
. . . to which I responded:
>Great question, great offer!
I've got Roberts' work somewhere with the questionable references, and below
I've attached the relevant portions of an old posting I made about the
issue. And I've copies of what minimal stuff seems to exist on Isaac of
Orange county, including the inventory at his death in the 1740s.
Were I to spend some time in Charles Co., I'd start at the historical
society asking a few open-ended questions. Then, I'd look for records of
any Isaac born or living there in the early 1700s; I believe I found at
least a couple in an online search a while back. Are there any references
to an Isaac in Orange (or Culpeper) county in Charles county records, such
as other Chapman wills? As well, I'd look for any sign of Sarah Cole, whom
he married, in the area, especially any record of their marriage.
But, hey! Let's find a few honest-to-God Chapmans descended from an Isaac or
Thomas living in Charles county, swab their throats, and send off the DNA -
and see how far back their lineage intersects with known descendents of John
of Giles.
Thanks again!!!
So, listmembers, do we have other ideas/directions for Paula? I'd gladly
forward them to her.
Rees
_________________________________________________
Most descendants of Isaac, through the Giles County Chapmans including
Isaac, John, and Jemima, believe their line passes through Thomas Chapman
who came to America at Jordons Journey in 1610 on the Tryall. To quote
some of my cousins, genealogy without documentation is mythology. In this
spirit, I am again challenging the Isaac>Thomas connection.
I believe it all started with George Roberts Genealogy of Joseph Peck
(1955) which traces Isaac Chapman of Culpeper VA back to Thomas Chapman of
1610 Colonial Virginia, and lays out the following lineage:
Thomas Chapman I (b. 1590) came to Jordon's Journey VA on the Tryallin
1610, m. Ann ? in 1618, had 2 children: Thomas II (b. 1619) and Ann (b.
1622), both in Jordon's Journey.
Thomas II settled Elizabeth River VA (probably Norfolk), married ? Had
a son Thomas III b. ca. 1642.
Thomas III settled in Charles Co. MD in 1662? and supposedly m.
Elizabeth Craxon in 1689. Had 2 children: Thomas IV (b. 3-26-1690) and Mary
(b. 8-19-1693). Thomas III would have 48 years old, and Elizabeth (b. 1644)
would have been 46, when Thomas IV was born; 51 and 49 respectively for
Mary.
Thomas IV ultimately settled in Orange Co, probably what became
Culpeper Co., VA
I know, 49 year old women in Colonial America, such as Elizabeth Craxon
Chapman in 1693, did have kids - but it was quite unusual. In August 1705
there is a Thomas Chapman married to Margaret Chapman in Stafford Co, VA,
across and a bit up the Potomac River, whose property Thomas is giving to
her son by a previous husband William Perkins. Roberts assumes it's the same
Thomas as was previously married to Elizabeth Craxon. Within four months, we
have Thomas Chapman in Charles Co. MD (June 15, 1695) and in Stafford Co. VA
(September 30, 1695). There's evidence of another Thomas Chapman in Roberts'
work in Kent Co. MD (further up the Chesapeake Bay) in 1659, whose father
was Richard Chapman - obviously not the same direct lineage as Thomas III.
With multiple Thomases around the Chesapeake Bay in the 1600s and the age of
Thomas III, I believe the Thomas (Tryall) Chapman I and Thomas Chapman IV
connection is questionable.
According to Roberts, the Thomas Chapman born March 26, 1690 in Charles Co.
MD is the same Thomas Chapman whose death inventory we find in Culpeper VA
dated Nov. 18, 1782. Later, says Roberts, "it may have been his son, b. ca.
1810-12." What???
Culbertson's Hunter Genealogy lists Thomas' children as Nathaniel, George,
John, and an unidentified daughter; NO Isaac. For some reason, says Roberts,
"to this we would add Isaac." And "We are certain that Isaac was a son of
Thomas IV." Why???
Johnson's History of Middle New River Settlements mentions an Isaac Chapman
born in Charles County, MD; about 1716, although there is apparently no
record of this birth in county records. For reasons that are unclear,
Roberts therefore assumes Isaac's father must have been born in Charles Co.
MD.
Then, Roberts goes on to state that there is no recorded evidence that the
other members (i.e., Nathaniel and George) were brothers of Isaac and John,
therefore, they shall not be considered further.. ." SO -we have no Isaac
born in Charles Co., but he must be the son of Thomas born in Charles Co. in
1690, who must be the same Thomas who died in Culpeper in 1782. And although
there is apparently evidence that Thomas had children George and Nathaniel,
there is no evidence of Isaac being brother of George and Nathaniel - thus,
we dismiss them as Thomas' sons. Very sloppy reasoning! It leads me to
suspect that Roberts felt competed to graft Isaac Chapman's family tree onto
Thomas', thus stretching the lineage back to 1610.
So, where did Isaac of Orange Co. VA come from? Here, other historical
documents are incomplete and contradictory. The Pearisburg Virginian in
March 15, 1928 quotes Mrs. W. P. Miller at the unveiling of the D.A.R.
marker for the grave of his son John Chapman: The Chapmans who were of
English origin, immigrated to America and settled in Connecticut long prior
to the Revolutionary War. From there they moved to Charles County,
Maryland. Leaving Maryland before the beginning of the revolution, a part
of them came to Culpeper county, Virginia. Isaac Chapman was among this
number, and there he married Sarah Cole, by whom he had threes sons and one
daughter, namely, Isaac, John, Richard, and Jemima. But, a letter by
Isaac's grandson Henley Chapman reads "My grandfather was named Isaac
Chapman; he emigrated to Virginia from England, the year unknown; he settled
in Virginia, perhaps in Culpeper County."
Turner, Puckett, Chapman, Jennings, Boysworth, Timmerman and Jones
----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil Carrick" <neil(a)1works.net>
To: <CHAPMAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAPMAN] A DNA Match !!
> Let me know what other names you have from Saluda SC. Maybe I can help.
>
> Regards,
>
> neil carrick
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Margie King" <heyred(a)knology.net>
> To: <CHAPMAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAPMAN] A DNA Match !!
>
>
> > My great grandfather was George Henry Jackson Chapman from Saluda County
> > South Carolina do you have any from SC?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rees Chapman" <winwinsit(a)hotmail.com>
> > To: <CHAPMAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 5:01 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAPMAN] A DNA Match !!
> >
> >
> >> Jack,
> >>
> >> Is your George Chapman the notorious George of Dewberry Baptist Church
in
> >> neighboring Hall county? The church split in the 1840s after a
> >> churchmember, hoping to demonstrate the predestination of our actions
by
> >> God's will, declared that God had planned for him to eat the piece of
> > fried
> >> chicken he held. Forever chaos-promoting troublemakers, the Chapman
> >> among
> >> them (George) snatched the uneaten drumstick out of his hand and tossed
> >> it
> >> across the room where, in a
> >> universe-shaking challenge to divine fatalism, it was devoured by a
dog.
> >> Never recovering from the existential and spiritual crisis this
fomented,
> >> the church split, and most of the members (including George) created
> >> Dewberry Number 1, even though it was really the 2nd successive
> >> Dewberry.
> >>
> >> I'm, by the way, a Lumpkin County Chapman - although my line originates
> >> in
> >> Orange/Giles counties in VA. If you're not local and need a lookup or
> > two,
> >> let me know.
> >>
> >> Rees Chapman
> >> winwinsit(a)hotmail.com
> >>
> >> >Are any of these Chapmans from Lumpkin County, Georgia? I think my
> > Cherokee
> >> >Indian mix may have started there, possible with George S Chapman
> > marrying
> >> >Harmuth (Harriett) Chapman.
> >> >
> >> >Jack Milam
> >>
> >>
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