I just located this list & subscribed. Right now I am answering on my blackberry &
it is tedious to type. There are several questions here I would like to get into when I am
sitting at a keyboard. Some questions might better be referred to other members of the
Chapman Family Association. That is were I would prefer to accumulate family trees. Will
try to work on a link with CFA web master. More later.
Ernie Chapman
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 01:01:29
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Subject: CHAPMAN-DNA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 2
Today's Topics:
1. Haplogroup G (Pat Pulasky)
2. Re: Haplogroup U1? (anne sanda)
3. Re: Haplogroup U1? (Sybil Chapman)
4. Re: Haplogroup G (Jones, Bryce)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 01:31:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Pat Pulasky <wva2calif(a)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [CHAPMAN-DNA] Haplogroup G
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To add to Bryce Jones' post, here is my line, which connects to the line of
Bryce's wife, Joan.???
This family is Haplogroup G. ? ? ? Patty (aka Pat) Pulasky Brown
Bob Chapman, first cousin of Patty Chapman Pulasky Brown
2. Clyde Chapman
3. James Chapman
4.? William and Sarah (surname unknown) Chapman (of Brooke Co, VA, then Washington Co,
OH)
5.? George Chapman, jr and Nancy Chapman? (a cousin) (of Brooke Co, VA/WV)
6.? "Captain" George Chapman and Joanna Lemaster (of Frederick Co, Va, then
Brooke Co, VA/WV)
7.?
William Chapman and Elizabeth Cullen (of Ireland, then Marcus Hook, Pa then Winchester,
in Frederick Co, VA)
8.? Thomas Chapman (Ireland, then Marcus Hook, PA and yes, there definitely is proof these
folks came from Ireland ca 1743)
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 08:32:26 -0400
From: anne sanda <annersanda(a)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CHAPMAN-DNA] Haplogroup U1?
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I totally agree with this posting. I think it would encourage other testers if they could
see the lineages and locations of those who have tested and be able to contact them
freely. My male cousin from another line tested and our SHORT project is very open and
YDNA broke a brick wall down for us that had been in place for at least 75 years. Being
able to access pedigrees and email addresses is important to the collabortion.
I have a chapman brick wall that I have spent a lot of time on -I cannot find a living
Chapman male willing to donate. I resorted to autosomal DNA testing. I was able to prove
my earliest ancestor, Francis A Chapman b. about 1812 KNOX TN was brother to Asahel P
Chapman b. 1818 KNOX TN. A female descendent and I did the test and we shared DNA at a
level to support what the paper trail suggests. Sure there are many trees on the internet
that say they were brothers but no one had any PROOF that they were brothers. I still
don't know who their father was. I have ideas but no definitive proof.
i think once you are a part of a project you should be allowed certain access. And for
those of us still on the outside, it would encourage people like me to try harder to find
that living CHAPMAN- my last male chapman died 1960's and I have traced all my
gggrandfather's brother's lines to try to find a MALE Chapman. If after finding
this unknown Chapman he agreed to test for this distant crazy cousin (namely me), I would
feel just like Bryce.
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 12:30:44 -0500
From: brycej(a)truman.edu
To: chapman-dna(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CHAPMAN-DNA] Haplogroup U1?
My wife is a Chapman and I have done a lot of research on her line. Her
brother Jerry took
the 37 marker test for Y-DNA on
familytreedna.com and it was posted in
the Chapman area,
To see the area you need a kit number and a password and since we paid
for half of the test,
we got the kit number and password from Jerry.
It turns out that my wife and Patty Chapman P. Brown seem to be fairly
closely related.
35 out of 37 match. 90% within 12 generations. I have some pretty good
circumstantial evidence that the links merge within about 8 generations
with a Wm Chapman of Winchester, VA. I won't go through the
circumstantial evidence here.
Now the information on the website is password protected and it does not
list the names or the email addys for those who took the test. Now I
guess Ernie Chapman can, with the permission of another person, give out
the name and email.
I understand that there should be some privacy here, but I am puzzled by
one thing. If a person agrees, why can't that person put his name and
email on the list? Most of us want to be found by distant cousins so
that we can share that information.
If nothing else, perhaps we could if we so chosse to post the
information on this group.
Most of us are not wanted by the police. We are trying to find cousins
and find info.
To put it bluntly, people can have their privacy if they want but they
should also be able to disseminate the information freely if they want.
Maybe I am overboard on this issue. I am willing to listen to
counter-arguments.
Bryce Jones (wife is Joan Chapman Jones)
1, Jerry, brother of Joan
2. John Chapman
3. Dwight
4. John Milton Chapman (Ind)
5. George Washington Chapman (b. 1818) (Oh-Ind)
6. James Chapman (b. around 1776-7) (Pa or VA and then to Ohio)
7. Joseph or Thomas Chapman (prob brothers)
8. Wm Chapman of Marcus Hook PA and later Winchester, VA
9. Thomas Chapman (Ireland and yes, there is proof he came from
Ireland)
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 09:45:27 -0400
From: Sybil Chapman <sybilchapman(a)cebridge.net>
Subject: Re: [CHAPMAN-DNA] Haplogroup U1?
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I paid for my brother's [Cedric Thomas] Y-DNA test with
familytree.com and I
have the password and access to the information, Only one surnane match was
ever found and we can't find a common ancestor. Several close matches were
found with other surnames. I am not6 familiar with autosomal testing,.
How does it differ fron y-DNA? How is
rootsweb.com involved?
On Mon Sep 27 7:32 , anne sanda <annersanda(a)hotmail.com> sent:
I totally agree with this posting. I think it would encourage other
testers if they could see the lineages and locations of those who have
tested and be able to contact them freely. My male cousin from another
line tested and our SHORT project is very open and YDNA broke a brick wall
down for us that had been in place for at least 75 years. Being able to
access pedigrees and email addresses is important to the collabortion.
I have a chapman brick wall that I have spent a lot of time on -I cannot
find a living Chapman male willing to donate. I resorted to autosomal DNA
testing. I was able to prove my earliest ancestor, Francis A Chapman b.
about 1812 KNOX TN was brother to Asahel P Chapman b. 1818 KNOX TN. A
female descendent and I did the test and we shared DNA at a level to
support what the paper trail suggests. Sure there are many trees on the
internet that say they were brothers but no one had any PROOF that they
were brothers. I still don't know who their father was. I have ideas but
no definitive proof.
i think once you are a part of a project you should be allowed certain
access. And for those of us still on the outside, it would encourage
people like me to try harder to find that living CHAPMAN- my last male
chapman died 1960's and I have traced all my gggrandfather's brother's
lines to try to find a MALE Chapman. If after finding this unknown Chapman
he agreed to test for this distant crazy cousin (namely me), I would feel
just like Bryce.
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 12:30:44 -0500
From: [1]brycej(a)truman.edu
To: [2]chapman-dna(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CHAPMAN-DNA] Haplogroup U1?
My wife is a Chapman and I have done a lot of research on her line. Her
brother Jerry took
the 37 marker test for Y-DNA on
familytreedna.com and it was posted in
the Chapman area,
To see the area you need a kit number and a password and since we paid
for half of the test,
we got the kit number and password from Jerry.
It turns out that my wife and Patty Chapman P. Brown seem to be fairly
closely related.
35 out of 37 match. 90% within 12 generations. I have some pretty good
circumstantial evidence that the links merge within about 8 generations
with a Wm Chapman of Winchester, VA. I won't go through the
circumstantial evidence here.
Now the information on the website is password protected and it does not
list the names or the email addys for those who took the test. Now I
guess Ernie Chapman can, with the permission of another person, give out
the name and email.
I understand that there should be some privacy here, but I am puzzled by
one thing. If a person agrees, why can't that person put his name and
email on the list? Most of us want to be found by distant cousins so
that we can share that information.
If nothing else, perhaps we could if we so chosse to post the
information on this group.
Most of us are not wanted by the police. We are trying to find cousins
and find info.
To put it bluntly, people can have their privacy if they want but they
should also be able to disseminate the information freely if they want.
Maybe I am overboard on this issue. I am willing to listen to
counter-arguments.
Bryce Jones (wife is Joan Chapman Jones)
1, Jerry, brother of Joan
2. John Chapman
3. Dwight
4. John Milton Chapman (Ind)
5. George Washington Chapman (b. 1818) (Oh-Ind)
6. James Chapman (b. around 1776-7) (Pa or VA and then to Ohio)
7. Joseph or Thomas Chapman (prob brothers)
8. Wm Chapman of Marcus Hook PA and later Winchester, VA
9. Thomas Chapman (Ireland and yes, there is proof he came from
Ireland)
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 09:34:22 -0500
From: "Jones, Bryce" <brycej(a)truman.edu>
Subject: Re: [CHAPMAN-DNA] Haplogroup G
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I think we could encourage more people to take the test if it was easier to contact
potential cousins.
Yes, we should ask their permission for their info to be public.
I know this is not Ernie's fault, it is undoubtedly a rule of the website.
By the way my brother-in-law's (Jerry Chapman) markers are on the first line of the G
group.
I don't whether you are supposed to be proud or ashamed of your marker numbers, but
whatever...
BTW Pat, did you say there were two others close to ours? Which ones?
And Harold, if I offended you, I apologize. If your ancestors came from Beaver in the
early 1800s, there is a strong likelihood
that you are related to my wife and brother-in-law's Chapman line and to Pat's.
If you haven't already, it might help if you took the test. If you have taken it, I
will share my information with you as to markers and other info.
And if this is our info, can't we post our market info here or on some other website?
Bryce Jones (w/ Joan Chapman Jones, sister of Jerry Chapman)
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Of Pat Pulasky
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 3:32 AM
To: chapman-dna(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CHAPMAN-DNA] Haplogroup G
To add to Bryce Jones' post, here is my line, which connects to the line of
Bryce's wife, Joan.???
This family is Haplogroup G. ? ? ? Patty (aka Pat) Pulasky Brown
Bob Chapman, first cousin of Patty Chapman Pulasky Brown
2. Clyde Chapman
3. James Chapman
4.? William and Sarah (surname unknown) Chapman (of Brooke Co, VA, then Washington Co,
OH)
5.? George Chapman, jr and Nancy Chapman? (a cousin) (of Brooke Co, VA/WV)
6.? "Captain" George Chapman and Joanna Lemaster (of Frederick Co, Va, then
Brooke Co, VA/WV)
7.?
William Chapman and Elizabeth Cullen (of Ireland, then Marcus Hook, Pa then Winchester,
in Frederick Co, VA)
8.? Thomas Chapman (Ireland, then Marcus Hook, PA and yes, there definitely is proof these
folks came from Ireland ca 1743)
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