Hello Michael,
I appreciate your attempts to revitalise the List. Your right it is
slowly fizzling out into nothing. My apologies in advance if I
offend anyone, in particular yourself, however you have to admit the
List has not been the same since John Chant was barred for what was a
very minor indiscretion. His contributions to the List was immense. I
am sure many Listers have lost interest since his enforced
retirement. I know I have been reluctant to contribute for this very
reason. I am not good at blowing my own trumpet, bit what the heck I
will give it a go. Listers will be aware that I also spent many hours
contributing to the List, willing to share like others expensive
subscriptions to user-pay online indexes.
LIke yourself Michael I sincerely hope that the List can be the
vibrant, sharing place it once was.
Regards,
Sean
Sean - glad you have blown you own trumpet and Johns' - it would be great to
get back to the List as it was.
Christine
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From: chant-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:chant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of Sean Leyland
Sent: Thursday, 8 February 2007 12:43 PM
To: CHANT(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CHANT] Roll Call
Hello Michael,
I appreciate your attempts to revitalise the List. Your right it is
slowly fizzling out into nothing. My apologies in advance if I
offend anyone, in particular yourself, however you have to admit the
List has not been the same since John Chant was barred for what was a
very minor indiscretion. His contributions to the List was immense. I
am sure many Listers have lost interest since his enforced
retirement. I know I have been reluctant to contribute for this very
reason. I am not good at blowing my own trumpet, bit what the heck I
will give it a go. Listers will be aware that I also spent many hours
contributing to the List, willing to share like others expensive
subscriptions to user-pay online indexes.
LIke yourself Michael I sincerely hope that the List can be the
vibrant, sharing place it once was.
Regards,
Sean
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3:33 PM
OK Sean
Happy to SHARE
Can I have the contact details of Robert Chant 1862-1940 descendants
Robert brother of my 3x great grandfather Luke Chant 1844-1911
and Richard Chant 1858-1916
Not one cousin contacted so far has said they had privacy concerns
like suggested and all were very happy to hear from me.
So lets revisit the descendant lines of James Chant and Mary Bunter
my 4x and 3x great grandparent's and your wife's 3x great grandparents.
I have lots queries.
regards
Michael Cheeseman
-----Original Message-----
From: chant-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:chant-bounces@rootsweb.com]On
Behalf Of Sean Leyland
Sent: Thursday, 8 February 2007 10:43 AM
To: CHANT(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CHANT] Roll Call
Hello Michael,
I appreciate your attempts to revitalise the List. Your right it is
slowly fizzling out into nothing. My apologies in advance if I
offend anyone, in particular yourself, however you have to admit the
List has not been the same since John Chant was barred for what was a
very minor indiscretion. His contributions to the List was immense. I
am sure many Listers have lost interest since his enforced
retirement. I know I have been reluctant to contribute for this very
reason. I am not good at blowing my own trumpet, bit what the heck I
will give it a go. Listers will be aware that I also spent many hours
contributing to the List, willing to share like others expensive
subscriptions to user-pay online indexes.
LIke yourself Michael I sincerely hope that the List can be the
vibrant, sharing place it once was.
Regards,
Sean
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G'Day listers
For those new to the list I have been researching my Chant origins
since 1979. The reason that I started in 1979 as a young man
was a comment by my grandmother. In 1979 Western Australia was
celebrating the 150th year since Captain James Stirling arrived
in Gage Roads off the coast of Fremantle on the "Parmelia" to
colonise Terris Nullius Australis and Claim the land for England.
Back in 1979 we had a rose coloured version of settlement that made no
mention of aboriginal people at all nor the maltreatment, murders, rapes,
stealing land, slavery etc.
In 1976 Alex Hailey's book and subsequent mini-series Roots had been on TV
only
a year or two earlier and people started looking into their family history
in
greater numbers. Before this it was an excentric hobby of a very few, mostly
I found when I started they tended to be retired teachers. So in 1979
people here in WA started looking into their Roots the free settlers and
Shame oh shame many in WA had Convict ancestors. Grandchildren of those
convicts
were ashamed of that history and their parents and themselves hid it from
their
family. Children were seen and not heard and such things were talked about
in
whisphers behind closed doors, as was children out of wedlock, drunkeness
and
all the other disfunctional aspects families tried to hide. Basicly there
was a
front put on that everyone was nice, polite, respectful and followed
victorian
or Edwardian societal expectations.
So why did I start. Well my grandmother told me we were descended from a man
that
was in the 1788 1st Fleet that arrived in New South Wales. I asked how did
she know that
and she said she wasn't sure. So I asked who were her parents. Who were my
grandfather's
parents. That's when I heard the name Chant. My great grandmother was Alice
Chant and my
grandmother had some papers a cousin Dick Chant in Geraldton had sent her.
Dick or Richard
Chant was the son of Alice's younger brother Leslie Chant youngest child of
Richard Chant 1858
ded Fremantle WA 1916.
Anyway what had intereted Dick into looking into the family was a letter in
1970 from
James Oswald Chant from South Australia asking for information to see if
they were related.
For those that dont know. James Oswald Chant researched James Chant who
arrived in South Australia
in 1864 a descendant line from West Chinnock. James was also in contact with
a distant cousin
David Chant who had been researching the West Chinnock Chant's since 1952. I
have contact with
J.O. Chant's son who has been very helpful regards his father's work and the
book produced in 1981.
Anyway Dick Chant had a Chart on our family that had arrived in Geraldton in
1896 to meet up with
their Bunter cousins.
Two Brothers Luke Chant my 3x great grandfather and Richard Chant d 1916
Fremantle. Dick knew
the Chant's had come from Dubbo and Mittigong but due to some family secrets
that people then
still living wanted kept secret, discussions about the Eastern State cousins
were fobbed off.
My grandmother and father were equally evasive on details. Armed with Dick's
basic and incomplete
chart so the search began.
In 1978 the IGI was on Microfiche and searching through that I found details
of West Chinnock Lines
and others(at the time not knowing if they were related or not and New South
Wales details. I obtained
certificates, contacted local muesum in Dubbo and started researching
Richard's family while there
discovering brother William. From a card index in the Western Australian
Geneological Society and
and WABI - Western Australian Biographical Index (started after the 1929 100
anniversary of settlement.
I found the references to the burial of Luke Bunter in 1911 and his
daughters including my
2x great grandmother Margaret Chant memorial to Luke. Soon progressing to
the names of siblings and
cousins names. Then in the Alexander Library - WA State Library they had New
South Wales shipping lists
in booklets with surnames by a fellow name McCleland. In them I found James
and Mary Chant arriving on
the ship the "Sea" in 1849 using that detail I was able to find the
microfilm to search for actual copies
of their emmigration arrival records held in Sydney.
Researching all lines, by now I knew the names and details of my eight great
grandparents, their children,
grandchildren, siblings and cousins and eight of the 16 ggreat grandparents.
In the mid 1990's I travelled
a lot visiting Chant cousins and writting lots of letters to Chant's in New
South Wales. About that Time I
contacted Clive Chant a descendant of William Chant 1841-1911 and a lady
whose Husband was a Bateup relation
to William's son's family. I searched the GRD each year and wrote to people
researching Chant's a number
have at one time or another since been on this list. So by 1995 I was
writting letters weekly to NSW, UK, NZ
etc to Chant researchers and was getting actively online since 1994.
By the time Sean Leyland contacted me in 1997 via email about posible
connections. He had just started
researching his wife's ancestor George Chant as Sean was a brit from the UK
and so could not easily
research his Leyland family from Australia.
We discussed what I knew and agreed to work together on the Chant's. I was
to let Sean cover the New South Wales
research as Sean was more appropriately located to make visits and send me
contact details of cousins he found
and info he located.
I was to focussed on UK Chant's as I had heaps of contacts that could help
me with UK records and by then was
building a big database on all Chant's I info I could find believing they
might be related. Something David Chant
of the West Chinnock Lines did not agree with me in letters we exchanged. By
now I had traced
over 100 ancestors names and made thousands of contacts across the globe.
Helping overseas researchers with
queries on WA convicts as I had done a lot of research in that area and
could help others with their convict
research.
I recieve many letters still from people without computers including from
people with queries on Chant family
lines after hearing about me from other researchers I have helped or
corresponded with.
Anyway Next the Sherborne Chant's
regards
Michael Cheeseman