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Listers,
Does anyone have connections to the Shropshire CHANT's? From the 1881 Census, 1891 Census for London and the Vital Records Index I've the following:
- Mary b.1801 Little Wenlock, her daughter, Martha, b.1846 Little Wenlock
- Sarah b.1803 Wellington
- Robert b.1833 Shrewsbury
- John b.1833 S.Heath
- George b.1835 Roddington
- John b.1838 Withington
- Henry b.1841 Shrewbury
- Robert b.1842 Wellington
- Sarah b.1846 Wenlock
- Thomas b.1850 Wenlock
- John b.1867 s.Henry and Hannah
Andy.
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UPDATE: I have finally visited Hants RO in Winchester and located Henry
CHANT's baptism in the Upham Parish Registers
Date 15 Feb 1829
Henry son of Mary CHANT (no father)
Abode: Upham
Occupation: Servant
Sadly no other snippets for clues. Mary didn't marry James BLAKE until 1831,
and HRO haven't any Bastardy Orders on record for Upham Parish.
Chris, Clanfield Hants UK
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From: "David & Christine Judd" <Judd.Clan(a)btopenworld.com>
To: <CHANT-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 4:41 PM
Subject: Hampshire CHANTs
> Hello Listers especially Andy
> With the invaluable help of a BLAKE researcher, Irene Dredge, I believe I
> have found where I 'belong' in the CHANT scheme of things.
> Irene sent me the an extract from the Chilcomb 1851 census:
>
> Henry CHANT 23 b. Upham ) [m. 14Aug1848 Romsey. Henry CHANT's
> father stated as James BLAKE]
> Mary CHANT 24 b. Romsey ) [bride Mary Jane BULPITT father James
> BULPITT]
> Henry (Harry) CHANT 1 b. Chilcomb (my gt. grandfather)
>
> Oliver CHANT 20 b. Tytherley
>
> neighbours:
>
> James BLAKE 44 b. Bagshot
> Mary BLAKE 43 b. Tytherley
> Ann BLAKE 20 b. Tytherley
>
> This ties in with the marriage Andy gave me of James BLAKE and Mary CHANT
> 5Apr1831 in Fisherton Anger; Ann being their daughter and half sister to
> Henry, and b. 1831 Tytherley. (IGI)
> Oliver CHANT also in Chilcomb 1851 is I believe the son of George & Phebe
> &
> bpd. 17 Apr1831 East Tytherley, and therefore Mary CHANT/BLAKE's nephew,
> with she and George being from parents George & Margaret (Edwards?) m.West
> Tytherley 1793?. (Mostly IGI entries)
> I'm hoping one of the List experts will be able to confirm/refute my
> feeble
> findings! regards to all Chris.
>
forwarded to correct address
regards
Michael
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From: Kimestes1(a)aol.com [mailto:Kimestes1@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2004 5:55 AM
To: CHANT-D-request(a)rootsweb.com
Subject:
Hello Listers!
I am enjoying the posts on the Chant lines with great enthusiaum! I keep
hoping that some of the information that is posted might match the Chant
names I
am researching. I keep searching and looking and slowly make headway.
Enjoying every minute of it of course!
If any of you kind Chant listers ever come across stats for Edward Chant &
his bride Sophia Blake I would be very appreciative (DOB's: unknown but can
be estimated around early 1800). Edward & Sophia's first son, Henry WIlliam
was born December 30, 1828. (Locations: Somerset/ Isle of
Guernsey/Battisford/Suffolk) I would love any little tidbits that anyone
may happen upon.
Hopefully the tidbits I have and any clues thrown at me along the way, will
continue
to help me put all the little pieces together. Thanks!
Kim
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Hello Janette,
I am fairly certain that this is Thomas Chant born Lambeth on the 1881
census:
William CHANT Head M Male 51 Lambeth Carpenter
Mary Ann CHANT Wife M Female 42 Lambeth
Thomas CHANT Son U Male 22 Lambeth Box Maker
Isabella CHANT Daur U Female 17 Lambeth
Alice CHANT Daur Female 7 Lambeth
William CHANT Son Male 5 Lambeth
Philip CHANT Son Male 3 Lambeth
Dwelling 11 Frazer St
Census Place Lambeth, Surrey, England
I will look at the family further on the 1871 census later on.
At first glance I did not find the other Thomas born Southwark.
Regards,
Sean
On Sunday, November 14, 2004, at 09:23 AM, Janette Pfeifer wrote:
> Dear Sean,
> It's Janette here. Thanks for your email filling me in on the
> changes to make to my records.
> ** I had Charles chris 2.7.1833 recorded twice in my records & have
> now deleted him off Charles & Charlotte's sheet. On Chas & Louisa's
> sheet.I had a birth date for him as14.5.1833 Sherborne. By the way I've
> got Charles 1833 as married to Jane Everett who was born 1827/1828 on
> Honest, Dorset. Is that right?.
> ** I've now also trfrd Fanny Baker over to wife of George 1860. with
> their 2 children.
> I took a while fixing up my computor records but thanks for putting
> me straight.
> ==========================
> I've got a query for you. On the 1901 census printout I've got for the
> Chants there are two entries for Thomas Chant as follows:---
> 1) Thomas 43 born Lambeth, London was at St.George the Martyr & was a
> packing case maker.
> 2) Thomas 43 born Southwark, London was also at St.George the Martyr
> and was down as an ironer.
> Query....Who are their parents please ?.
>
> Regards,
> Janette.in Oz
Hello Janette,
Thanks for the reply, however I hate to be a killjoy. The Charles Chant
you have baptised on the 2nd July 1833 is in fact the son of Charles
Chant and Louisa Beazely. This Charles Chant was baptised at Oborne on
the 6/5/1804 and was married to Louisa on the 13/9/1829 at Sherborne .
Charles's father was John Chant and mother Elizabeth ? Andy Chant has
undetaken a lot of research on the Oborne line, and he has kindly helped
me out. It is often difficult sorting out the various strands of the
Sherborne and Oborne branches given the close geographical proximity of
the two settlements.
As for George born 1823, son of Charles and Charlotte I am afraid he did
not marry Fanny Baker. In fact it was George's nephew, George Chant born
c. 1860, son of Thomas Chant born 1827 who married Fanny Baker. I have
searched high and low for George born 1823 without luck. As I say he is
listed on the 1841 census, living with his widowed mother Charlotte and
brother Thomas at Sherborne. The other brother, Isaac is also listed at
Sherborne, however as a 15 yr printer appentice, not living with his
mother or siblings Isaac also disappears from the records after 1841.
Did George and brother Isaac migrate between 1841 and 1851 ?
Thanks for your help Janette.
Regards,
Sean
Hello to John,
Janette here!.
Re those East Chninock Banns. The James who married Eliza Andrews in 1890 is the James son of Wm & Hannah. In the 1901 census I have him down as a contractors carter & Eliza was a leather glovemaker in East chinnock with their 5 children Elsie, Arthur, Ralph, Andrew & Jesse.
Re that Samel born 1827 Martock & wife Anne born Dorchester & daughter Sarah & son Samuel. .I've just found Sarah aged 45 a laundress in Martock..mother Anne must have died after the 1881 census. I haven't got this Samuel linked to anywhere yet.
Regards,
Janette in Oz.
Hello Sean,
It's Janette here!. I was just reading your note to Andy re the family of Charles Chant & Charlotte Lockyer. I've got another child for Charles & Charlotte, a son Charles chris.2.7.1833 in Sherborne.
You said their 2 eldest sons were a mystery well I've got info.re George. I had George born 1823 married to Fanny Baker in my un-matched file & found him in the 1901 census. He married about March 1879 at St.Saviour, London. They had 2 children as follows:--
1) Arthur Thomas (known as Thomas) born c 1880 who married an Ethel.
2) Lilian Kate (Lily) born c.Dec 1895 in St.Saviour, Southwark, London.
*** Arthur Thomas is on the CWCI list .He died WW1 25..9.1916. He was with the Canadian Infantry. when he died Ethel was living at 331, S.Flower Street, Los Angeles, California.USA then.
In 1891 George & Fanny lived at Collington street, Borough Road, St.George The Martyr, London.
In 1901 George 42 & Fanny 47 were with Lillie 5 at St.George the Martyr, London.as at the census.
Regards,
Janette in Oz
Hello Andy,
Good to hear from you.
Charles Chant married Charlotte Lockyer on the 30th March 1823 at
Sherborne. Charles was the eldest child of George Chant and Elizabeth
Noakes. The reason why there is a large gap between Thomas b. 1827 and
Mary Ann Morgan b, 1841 is that Charles died during 1828. His wife
Charlotte was remarried to Charles Morgan a few months after the birth
of their child, Mary Ann Morgan Chant in 1841.
Charles and Charlotte's eldest two sons, George b 1823 and isaac b. 1825
are a mystery after 1841. They are both on the census at Sherborne
during 1841 and then gone, no burial dates, no marriage etc etc. The
third child Thomas was married to Mary Ann Tucker, remained in Sherborne
until the 1860's and moved to Henstridge, Somerset. He was still alive
in 1901.
Regards,
Sean
On Friday, November 12, 2004, at 11:38 AM, andrew chant wrote:
> Sean,
>
> From the PR's transcibed by Michael Fraser - OPC volunteer - John CHANT
> was baptised 25/08/1846 at Oborne the (third) son of George CHANT and
> Ann (nee BABSTOCK). John married Maria HULL (b.1844 Wincanton) on
> 11/2/1868 at Oborne and I've 10 children listed for them. 1861/1871 he
> was in Oborne, 1881 in Idmiston Wilts, 1891 at "Folly" Poyntington and
> 1901 in Poyntington.
>
> For George CHANT and Charlotte LOCKYER, I have 4 children only:
> - George b.1823
> - Isaac b.1825
> - Thomas b.1827
> - Mary Ann Morgan b.1841
> There's a big gap in there so there's probably more!
>
> Andy.
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Hello Sean,
Re your email of the 10th November.
In my main files I've just found I've got a John Chant born 1847 in Oborne the son of George Chant 1816 & wife Anne Babstock. I have this John married 11.2.1868 in Oborne to Marina Hull & I have 9 children for them.
1) William born c1865 Sherborne
2) Maria Jane c1869 Sherborne married c1883 to Albert Cartledge
3) Herbert c1876 Oborne married a Flora..He was a farmer/carter at Poyntington, Dorset in 1901
4) Louisa c1878 Oborne was a domestic in 1891 in Oborne
5) Ellen c1880 Obrne was a silk dresser in 1901
6) Ernest c1884 Poyntington was carter on a farm in 1901
7) Lucy c1887 I have born Wiltshire
8) Beatrice c1888 Poynington was school teacher in 1901
9) Hilda c1897 Poytington.
I reckon the William born c1871 Sherborne who married Amelia Elizabeth Burt c.1891 is the son of John & Maria If William c1865 died. William aged 30 born Sherborne was a farm carter at North Wootton on the 1901 census.
Regards.
Janette in Oz
Hello Michael,
Noticed this burial entry for Henry Chant, son of Edward, grandson of
Noah Chant and Eliza Slade:
Henry Chant Duloe Jany 12 1903 19 yrs T R Horley Vicar
Duloe is a village in Beds.
Regards,
Sean
Hello Michael,
Mary daughter of William and Hannah bap 1818 is a new one to me.
You may have missed out Daniel, son of James and Mary. Baptised 5th
April 1831 and buried aged 3 yrs old 24th July 1833.
Any ideas about what I have sent regarding James Chant possibly being
the son of Ben and Sarah of Oborne. To be honest I am fairly convinced
he is the son of George and Mary, however there are doubts. Andy Chant
thinks son, and the fact that a grandaughter of James, Mahala Coles
eventually married Philip Chant of Oborne (they were cousins) is tricky !
Regards,
Sean
Hello Janette and Michael,
Yes I would have to agree with Michael, I rechecked my data and noticed
that Selah was born 1822 as opposed to 1823. Sorry if I indicated
otherwise.
Regards,
Sean
Hello Beryl,
George, husband of Fanny born c. 1860, son of Thomas and Mary Ann
Tucker. Thomas was born 1827 the son of Charles Chant and Charlotte
Lockyer. Charles was the eldest son of George and Elizabeth. Charles
died during 1828 at Sherborne.
I am interested that you have 12 children for George and Elizabeth, I
have no where near that. Can you send me your list ?
Regards,
Sean
G'day listers
One of our members has contacted me having problems with sent
messages getting through. Has anyone else had similar problems.
One of Rootsweb's servers is down but it should not be affecting
this list.
Let me know if anyone else has a access problem.
regards
Michael Cheeseman
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Hello all,
It's Janette here. I've just found a couple of mistakes in my email of Mon 8th November.
** I said that Marnhull is approx.8-10 miles West of Sherborne BUT it is East of Sherborne.
** I had that William 1835 married Marina in 1811..that's wrong, that's when his father Thomas married. I haven't got a marriage date for William but going by the 1st born child I have it would be c.1864.
Regards,
Janette in Oz.
Nice to see the Chant mailing list coming to life again, however I still
feel left out as I have been unable to link into anybody yet on my Chant
line.
I am still stuck on my great, great, great grandfather William Chant.
In reverse order this is the following I have:-
He died on the 29th Oct 1829 age 33 in Howden Yorkshire. He is buried with
his wife Mary (Johnson), his wife's brother Thomas Johnson, wife's sister in
law Caroline Johnson and wife's nephew Watson L Johnson, this leads me to
suspect that William had no other family in Howden Yorks as he was buried in
his wife's families plot. Mary's parents appear to be a Thomas Johnson &
Sarah Dowson.
William Chant christened 4 children:-
Ann Chant 13 May 1829
Thomas Chant 16 May 1827 (Grandfather & Uncles Christian name)
Sarah Chant 19 Jun 1825 (Grandmother & Aunts Christian name)
William Chant 24 Apr 1824 (Father & Uncles Christian name)
William Chant married Mary Johnson on 22 May 1823 in Howden Yorkshire.
So far my research has proven that children's names were used to match
family names, therefore I was hoping that someone may be able to identify
William as the son of one of their descendants, the names William and Ann
would appear to tie in with his family as I have no Ann's on the Johnson
side.
As William died in 1829 I have no census records to show where he was born.
Can anybody suggest any way of progressing my line further or does anyone
have a possible stray William Chant born c1796, please help.
Regards
David Chant
Hello to Sean,
I've been through my un-matched Dorset sheets & I've got the following:---
Thomas DAW married 16.7.1769 Sherborne Wesleyan to a Susanna CHANT.....no details known about her.
William CHANT born c.1871 Sherborne was marr..to Amelia Elizabeth BURT born c.1870 Gillingham, Dorset & had Elsie c1892, George c1895, Bessie c 1899 & Edwin c.1900.
Roger CHANT married 17.9.1621 Sherborne Wesleyan, Dorset to Margaet CALLOW...no further info.
============================
By the way in the Atlas I've got (4miles to 1") I see Marnhull is about 8-10miles west of Sherborne. I've got 4 lots of family sheets I've linked to Marnhull ancestors.
They are as follows:---
John CHANTE c1690 marr.to Joanne WILLS down to Benedict & Mary nee Parsons & family.
Joseph CHANT marr 1858 to Salome GIBBS down to Walter Joseph & Emily nee Ayles.
Hubert c 1846 & Ellen c1846 & down to Stanley 1873 & wife Mary.
Thomas 1784 marr 1811 to Phillis JARVIS down to William 1835 who marr.1811 to Marina.
I was thinking, seeing Marnhull isn't that far away from Sherborne maybe the above could be connected somehow.
Regards,
Janette in Oz.
2. WILLIAM2 CHANT was baptised July 20, 1771 in Sherborne.
He married HANNAH (ANNA) PHILLIPS July 23, 1798 in
Sherborne.
Eight children of William Chant and Hannah Phillips are:
i. RICHARD CHANT, b. January 26, 1799, Sherborne.
ii. SUSANNA CHANT, b. January 31, 1801, Sherborne.
iii. SALLY PHILIPS CHANT, b. February 12, 1803, Sherborne.
iv. SAMUEL ROGERS CHANT, b July 9, 1808
Samuel's entry not previously located in PR. Came from
Dorset OPC Transcription.
v. NOAH CHANT, b. June 01, 1811 Chant's in Sherborne
vi. DANIEL CHANT, b. November 20, 1813. died aged 16
vii. WILLIAM CHANT, b. March 06, 1816. NZ Chant line
viii. MARY CHANT, b. March 31, 1818.
5. GEORGE2 CHANT was baptised August 14, 1779 in Sherborne.
He married ELIZABETH NOAKES 15 December 1799 in Sherborne.
Seven children of George Chant and Elizabeth Noakes are:
i. CHARLES CHANT, b. April 26, 1800, Sherborne.
ii. ANN CHANT, b. October 18, 1803, Sherborne.
iii. SAMUEL CHANT, b. July 27, 1805, Sherborne. died 1806
iv. SAMUEL CHANT, b. October 10, 1807, Sherborne.
v. ELIZA CHANT, b. March 02, 1811, Sherborne.
vi. HARRIET CHANT, b. October 25, 1813, Sherborne.
vii. JAMES CHANT, b. May 04, 1816, Sherborne.
(James b 1816 Michael Cheeseman's 4x and 3x Great grandfather)
5. JAMES2 CHANT was baptised May 28, 1787 in Sherborne.
He married MARY CEVIL 8 January 1809 in Sherborne.
Six children of James Chant and Mary Cevil are:
i. ANN CHANT, bap 18th June 1809
ii. SUSANNAH CHANT bap 9th Sep 1812
iii. GEORGE CHANT bap 11 Jan 1816
iv. MARY CHANT bap 24th Oct 1818
v. SELAH CHANT Bap 24th Aug 1822
vi. HANNAH CHANT 29th Oct 1825
regards
Michael Cheeseman
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