Hi Diane
I can tell you a bit about those strange property transactions, which were
quite commonplace before the modern system of conveyancing was introduced.
It was a way of selling land without the cost and restrictions of enrollment
in a public registry. The lease made William McGillivray William Morgan's
tenant, thereby giving McGillivray current interest in the property. The
next day, Morgan executed a release to McGillivray, giving up his interest
in the property. The effect was to transfer the title to McGillivray,
because he now owned both the current and future interests in the land, but
without the administrative costs and limitations imposed by the Statute of
Enrolments.
Re DNA, there IS a way to study female ancestral DNA, but the problem is
that going back up the female line is very difficult, because the surname
changes at every generation. The best way for a lady to participate in
surname projects like the Chan(d)ler project is to get a close male relative
(brother, father, uncle) with an unbroken male Chandler line to participate.
The man's Y chromosome is passed down the male line, along with the surname,
from generation to generation, virtually unchanged. As long as the family
relationship between the lady and that man is sound, that man's Y chromosome
tells the story for his female relative too. Do let me know if you want
more details about this.
Please take a look at the CFA web site page
http://www.thecfa.org/genetic_chandler_families.html which we have not yet
made public. When you have read what is on that page, scroll down and click
on one of the underlined family numbers - mine is 7C. The family number for
descendants of Rev Isaac Chanler is 31 and we would really like to work with
you and Lew to create an attractive and interesting story of your line.
That photo of your GG grandfather would be a terrific part of it. Hopefully
these genetic family pages will attract others who may belong to the same
genetic family and get them to test, which may provide extra information to
help us all. You can choose to be anonymous or not. Each page will start
with the genetic Chandler family number, the earliest known ancestor of your
line, and the dates and location where he lived. These keywords would be
picked up by internet search engines, so that anyone interested in Chandlers
in your ancestor's area would be pointed to your story. We would help you
to put your story into an attractive web format. If you are interested,
please put together as much as you know, including a picture or two, and we
will take it from there, then agree the product with you. Would you be able
to work with Lew on this? This would not cost you anything, other than your
time.
I look forward to hearing from you again. You can e-mail me directly at
dchandler(a)sunwave.net
Best wishes
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Diane" <diane(a)pedleynets.net>
To: <chandler(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [CHANDLER] Rev. Isaac Chanler
Thank you so much. Yes Lew and I are related. We have the same GG
Grandfather tho different GG Grandmothers. And he actually had a
picture of that GG Grandfather in his civil war uniform. So it was
wonderful to have found him.
I recently got copies of lease agreements made between William Morgan
and William McGillivray for WM's plantation. Since it gives a
description of it I was hoping to find someone who might have the
experience to draw out that plantation on a copy of an old map. That
may be too big a fantasy. At any rate I'm in the process of
transcribing these documents (transcribing because the handwriting of
the recorder is difficult to read), using a magnifying glass. It's a
puzzle to me because these two documents seem to indicate that on one
day William leased William McGillivray the plantation "for a pepper
corn" and then the next day sold it to him. So I'd really like to find
someone who could interpret it for me. Maybe someone will know what it
is they were doing. Seems so strange. :-)
I understand that the male dna is how you have to go for the surname;
but do you know if either the male or female dna can be used to even
vaguely identify female ancestors? It sure would be nice if someday
they can do that.
I do have a copy of that will of Isaac Chanler. What I'm hoping for is
that descendants of other of his children will have had more
information possibly handed down to them. I will keep in touch.
Diane
Dick Chandler wrote:
> Hi Diane
>
> We have a descendant of Rev Isaac Chanler in the Chandler DNA project.
> The
> little we know about Rev Isaac is quoted below from our Project Report:
> Rev. Isaac Chanler of Ashley River, South Carolina
> REV. ISAAC CHANLER is said by some to have been born at Bristol, England,
> in
> 1700, while others (including a family biographer) suggest a somewhat
> earlier birth date at an unknown place. He was a minister on Ashley River
> near Charleston, SC, from about 1733 until his death in 1749. He left a
> long
> and interesting will dated May 20, 1749. His son ISAAC took his medical
> degree at the University of Edinburgh before returning home, where he was
> among the founders of what became the Medical University of South
> Carolina.
> The surname of this line is consistently spelled "CHANLER" in recent
> times,
> but consistent spelling is not to be expected before the 19th century. We
> have already included one descendant in the project and hope to include
> at
> least one more to pin down the ancestral DNA pattern.
>
>
> Additionally, Diane, there is a Pedigree Resource File submission on the
> FamilySearch web site showing him as a Baptist Minister born Bristol
> England
> 1701 (elsewhere I have read May 10, 1700) died 30 Nov 1749 in or near
> Charleston SC, wife Elizabeth Hunley born Uxbridge England died 1774.
> The
> submitter was Llewellyn Toulmin of 13108 Hutchinson Way, Silver Spring,
> MD
> 20906. It may be worth writing to him to see if he has more information.
>
> We would be very interested to hear from you with any additional
> information
> you or your Mom find out about this line e.g. details about Mary
> Chanler's
> marriage to William Morgan - anything like that.
>
> Finally, I should point out that this CHANDLER mailing list is fairly
> inactive these days. There is more action on the Chandler board at
> Rootsweb
> which is copied to the CHANDLER-L mailing list, not this one, and I would
> advise you to post your enquiry there
>
http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.chandler/mb.ashx
>
> Best wishes to you and your Mom
>
>
>
> Dick Chandler in Salmon Arm, British Columbia, Canada
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Diane" <diane(a)pedleynets.net>
> To: <chandler(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 10:10 AM
> Subject: [CHANDLER] Rev. Isaac Chanler
>
>
>
>> Hello............
>>
>> Currently I am in the middle of Texas with my elderly parents and
>> nowhere near an LDS library.
>>
>> Is there someone who knows about the Chanlers of the Charleston area in
>> South Carolina? I believe it was through reported newspaper entries
>> that we learned that Mary Chanler, daughter of Rev. Isaac Chanler and
>> William Morgan were married. I don't remember the exact date as I don't
>> have my papers in front of me right now but I think it was the earlier
>> 1770s. Willaim and Mary were my 5th G.Grandparents.
>>
>> If there is anyone with information about these people we would love to
>> hear from you. My Mom is 89 years old, and I can't tell you what all
>> this new availability of information has meant for her. I find clues at
>> night when I'm up here in the RV that we stay in while here; give them
>> to her and she does "her rsearch" to find more. This stuff keeps her
>> sharp and interested, and GOING. So I'm looking for more information,
>> not just for our research which we all want, but for "her" research.
So
>> if someone has some information they can share; I will show her a little
>> "clue" that I "found" and let her do the research to
"find" the rest of
>> it. They say that the people of do this mental exercising with the
>> computer are living longer and I truely believe it. I'm watching it.
>>
>> Thank you, in advance..............
>>
>> Diane
>>
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