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D'Ann, I have a cable connection, not quite the same as DSL but fast.
We are thinking of changing to DSL in the future, our Cable site seems
to be down alot. Dodn't know if that is any help. I've been gone just
catching up on my mail! Cindy Klein
DAStoddard(a)aol.com wrote:
>
> I need to know how many people (besides me) have DSL connection? You can
> e-mail me privately. It has to do with the new site a few of us have been
> working on.
>
> D'Ann
Dear NC Chamblee researchers:
Audrey Griffin, for you Chamblee-Griffin researchers phoned me and she
indicated she is now on AOL. Her e-mail address is Oleau2(a)aol.com
She is concentrating on her lines of Pendergrass, Amos, Sanders, etc. at the
moment, but 'if you are confused about the Griffins, I'm sure she could
answer your question. I do not know if she is going to join this list...yet.
Before alot of the Chamblees left Wake/Franklin/Johnston/Nash counties areas
and migrated to AL, MS, etc., they intermarried a few times with the Griffin
clan. So, some of your "horizontal lines" if they were worked out, would go
into the Griffin family, particularly the families in the James Chamblee clan.
Audrey a great resource for understanding NC research sources, etc., too.
D'Ann
Right on, folks!
"Bobbe J. Duvall" wrote:
> Sometimes your research leads you into what is for you a pretty
> >alien culture. Many of the old timers in my Chamblee/Overton lines still
> >live in extremely rural settings and areas. Think "Deliverance" with the
> >people living in a little bit better housing.....<G>
>
> Now that's living! No kidding, I'd put up with an outhouse again to visit
> the house where my grandma Chamblee lived when I was a child. It had open
> fireplaces, and a great wood stove, fabulous old feather beds with iron
> frames, and the most formal looking sofa I have ever seen. We had to haul
> water up a steep hill from the well, and it was the best tasting water in
> my experience. Grandpa Chamblee built the house himself. I can smell the
> woodsmoke from the stove, and biscuits baking, coffee boiling, bacon
> frying, even now. They had chickens, and a horse, and acres of land with a
> great climbing tree and blackberry patches. It was a real child's paradise.
> Don't know if I'd find it quite as charming in this weather though.
>
> I'm still trying to figure out who the outlaw kin were that reportedly came
> to Itawamba and hid out for a while. Supposedly they had committed murder
> and were hiding, then went back to face their accusers. With all the
> murderous tempers in the family, it's hard to run down that rumor.
>
> Re outlaws
> I hear tell that my grandfather's cousin was a bootlegger, but I hesitate
> to give his name since it may offend. Besides, at that time a bootlegger
> was somebody who made liquor in a dry county. I don't think it was even
> illegal unless offered for sale. Although it was a scandal within my
> primitive Baptist family.
At 02:02 PM 7/6/2000 -0400, you wrote:
> Sometimes your research leads you into what is for you a pretty
> >alien culture. Many of the old timers in my Chamblee/Overton lines still
> >live in extremely rural settings and areas. Think "Deliverance" with the
> >people living in a little bit better housing.....<G>
>
>Now that's living! No kidding, I'd put up with an outhouse again to visit
>the house where my grandma Chamblee lived when I was a child. It had open
>fireplaces, and a great wood stove, fabulous old feather beds with iron
>frames, and the most formal looking sofa I have ever seen. We had to haul
>water up a steep hill from the well, and it was the best tasting water in
>my experience. Grandpa Chamblee built the house himself. I can smell the
>woodsmoke from the stove, and biscuits baking, coffee boiling, bacon
>frying, even now. They had chickens, and a horse, and acres of land with a
>great climbing tree and blackberry patches. It was a real child's paradise.
>Don't know if I'd find it quite as charming in this weather though.
My first experience was at about age 5. There was a death in the family
and my mother and father traveled from Birmingham up to the old home place
late at night. I was thrown into a bed in which there were 3 or 4 other
young cousins that I'd never met before. I remember us all snuggling down
under heavy quilts because it was winter and the only heat in the house was
from the kitchen stove or the fireplace in the main room and whispering to
one another who we were. That was my first exposure to a farm. I remember
vividly watching aunt Zora Overton (Chamblee) cooking breakfast the next
morning and thinking that I wasn't about to eat a brown egg......<G>
>I'm still trying to figure out who the outlaw kin were that reportedly came
>to Itawamba and hid out for a while. Supposedly they had committed murder
>and were hiding, then went back to face their accusers. With all the
>murderous tempers in the family, it's hard to run down that rumor.
Well, my mother and dad ran off to Itawamba and got married in 1949, but I
certainly hope they didn't kill anyone in the process.
>Re outlaws
>I hear tell that my grandfather's cousin was a bootlegger, but I hesitate
>to give his name since it may offend. Besides, at that time a bootlegger
>was somebody who made liquor in a dry county. I don't think it was even
>illegal unless offered for sale. Although it was a scandal within my
>primitive Baptist family.
Well lets have a name kiddo.....ya never know...ya just never know.......My
line over here was primitive and we wuz Baptists but everything I've ever
heard indicats that we'un's were right proud of the quality of our corn
squeezins'
Sometimes your research leads you into what is for you a pretty
>alien culture. Many of the old timers in my Chamblee/Overton lines still
>live in extremely rural settings and areas. Think "Deliverance" with the
>people living in a little bit better housing.....<G>
Now that's living! No kidding, I'd put up with an outhouse again to visit
the house where my grandma Chamblee lived when I was a child. It had open
fireplaces, and a great wood stove, fabulous old feather beds with iron
frames, and the most formal looking sofa I have ever seen. We had to haul
water up a steep hill from the well, and it was the best tasting water in
my experience. Grandpa Chamblee built the house himself. I can smell the
woodsmoke from the stove, and biscuits baking, coffee boiling, bacon
frying, even now. They had chickens, and a horse, and acres of land with a
great climbing tree and blackberry patches. It was a real child's paradise.
Don't know if I'd find it quite as charming in this weather though.
I'm still trying to figure out who the outlaw kin were that reportedly came
to Itawamba and hid out for a while. Supposedly they had committed murder
and were hiding, then went back to face their accusers. With all the
murderous tempers in the family, it's hard to run down that rumor.
Re outlaws
I hear tell that my grandfather's cousin was a bootlegger, but I hesitate
to give his name since it may offend. Besides, at that time a bootlegger
was somebody who made liquor in a dry county. I don't think it was even
illegal unless offered for sale. Although it was a scandal within my
primitive Baptist family.
At 11:59 AM 7/6/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>I need to know how many people (besides me) have DSL connection? You can
>e-mail me privately. It has to do with the new site a few of us have been
>working on.
>
>D'Ann
You are kidding....I presume..... <picking up his hammer and chisel to
return to work....>
>What makes you sure they are not coconuts? Maybe we should reclassify our
>ancestors, et. al. as "nutty" familes. "The Nuts on the Net". The imagery is
>compelling to choose from:
I haven't shaken any coconuts out yet that I know of.....at least they
didn't do serious or permanent damage when they fell out.
Seriously, you never know what you're going to discover when you start
researching different branches on the tree. I've met, gotten to know and
continue to enjoy contact with many many distantly related members of my
extended family lines over the years. I've also met a few that I wouldn't
want to share a cab ride with. I'm a city boy, born and raised on
concrete. Sometimes your research leads you into what is for you a pretty
alien culture. Many of the old timers in my Chamblee/Overton lines still
live in extremely rural settings and areas. Think "Deliverance" with the
people living in a little bit better housing.....<G> Sometimes these
lines, especially those in such rural settings, have a history of being
involved in somewhat less than legal activity such as bootlegging. I know,
I know....it's hard to believe but you hear these and similar stories from
family members that have generally been gradually removed from the core
group over succeeding generations. Confirming the stories and information
can be tricky at times. It has taken me a number of years to become
accepted into the family group that attend the annual Chamblee/Overton
reunion at the old homeplace. Accepted to the point that I can ask a
question about relatives that are now deceased without seeing a blank look
and some non-committal mumbling from the person that I'm speaking
to. Accepted by the old timers that remember not only the things that
happened in this century but also the stories about the long deceased
family members.
Hell, I've heard the stories since I was a kid. Stories overheard from
parents conversations. Stories about this Uncle so and so making moonshine
or cousin so and so being killed by a couple of brothers and the cousins
kin taking care of the brothers. I remember when I was a young man my
Dad's youngest brother was shot to death by his wife. It was a long story
but his wife's family were powerful people in the county and she was never
so much as arrested. I can still hear the words spoken when one of my
Dad's uncles asked him at the funeral how he and my Dad's older brother
intended to " take care of that woman" and my Dad replied that he guessed
they'd just let the courts take care of it. The Uncle replied " horseshit,
you take care of your own boy". An illustration of how strong family ties
are with these people.
>The entire newspaper article is pretty interesting actually. What I have
>really loved are those who take my personal e-amil or US mail, put them on
>gedcom files (or websites) which are sold to those commercial companies.
>Really enjoy reading them on CD's at our FHC. Kinda weird, kinda etheral,
>kinda surrealistic, kinda yucky.
You want that Uncles phone number? <G>
At 05:08 PM 7/5/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>Well...ahhhh.....Steve.........
>
><<When you shake a tree you're generally looking to see what will fall out.
>Often it
>will be a nut.....<G> Just count yourself lucky when it's an acorn and not a
>coconut......!!>>
>
>What makes you sure they are not coconuts? Maybe we should reclassify our
>ancestors, et. al. as "nutty" familes. "The Nuts on the Net". The imagery is
>compelling to choose from:
>
>The entire newspaper article is pretty interesting actually. What I have
>really loved are those who take my personal e-amil or US mail, put them on
>gedcom files (or websites) which are sold to those commercial companies.
>Really enjoy reading them on CD's at our FHC. Kinda weird, kinda etheral,
>kinda surrealistic, kinda yucky.
Need to know which cousin websites currently have pictures of our ancestors
besides Bob Chamblee, Tommy Strickland, Bobbe. My mind is blank as usual.
Making a list of those sites for the new site. I can also upload the same pix
at the new site since there is now such a collection if those site authors
would wish, but I'd never do that without asking permission.
Steve, I'm not kidding about this either, lol.
NOT kidding. Hmm, just thought it may have hit your parts of the country like
it has hit here is all. It will, never fear. Just wonder'. Just needed help
on somethin' while I was gone again.
For now, Monsieur Herring you can just edit the info on those pix and that
will be helpful.
I need to know how many people (besides me) have DSL connection? You can
e-mail me privately. It has to do with the new site a few of us have been
working on.
D'Ann
<< I remember when I was a young man my
Dad's youngest brother was shot to death by his wife. >>
Did you ever tell me this before, Steve?
Bobbe and I are keeping a mental list of all the "interesting" people who so
engaged in such activities.
So far.....
Jarred, 1775-1836, son of Robert convicted and punished
Lafayette Chamblee 1867-1892 of Blount Co AL, indicted (killing his brother),
convicted, served
Woodson Chamblee 1815, convicted of murdering L. Bunn
There are more, they elude me..some probably shouldn't be in printed here
anyway
Bobbe has knows another one in oral history
Others?? I guess there are NONE from the "Chamlee" (no "b") side of the
family?
Such cases created interesting paper trails that unearthed other records. As
ever, it's best to not judge the circumstances since we didn't lead their
lives. Still, it's interesting info to collect and our family history is very
colorful.
If you want to understand the conflicted and difficult lives they lead, go to
a courthourse or an archive and read the divorce papers of long ago. Same for
bastardy bonds. Many secrets there! In Nash Co there are so many bonds I
wonder who is legitimate. Only some of the bonds for Nash are extant, but the
court minutes refers to so many more, and elude to liaisons that probably
would alter genealogy if people could face it.
Hi D'Ann,
What's the scary part? I find a lot about genealogy and genealogist's
themselves entertaining, interesting, funny, insightful and any number of a
host of other narrative descriptions that would be applicable. When you
shake a tree you're generally looking to see what will fall out. Often it
will be a nut.....<G> Just count yourself lucky when it's an acorn and not
a coconut......!!
At 03:53 PM 7/5/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>"HORROR ON THE WEB by Myra Vanderpool Gormley, C.G. wrote an easy to
>understand article about the great misunderstandings of what is "fair" to use
>on genealogy websites. The first paragraph says it all...
>
>"Many Internet genealogists are cyber thieves, plagiarists, and copyright
>infringers. Most of them are nice people, but there are a few bad apples in
>the cyber barrel. One thief, when confronted with her crime of stealing
>dozens of Web pages, retaliated against the author by placing an ugly GIF
>(graphics image) on her home page and labeled it with the author's name. This
>reminds me of something a grade-school kid might do." (See:
>http://www.ancestry.com/columns/myra/Shaking_Family_Tree10-29-98.htm)
>
>Myra goes in her syndicated column about this subject.
Well...ahhhh.....Steve.........
<<When you shake a tree you're generally looking to see what will fall out.
Often it
will be a nut.....<G> Just count yourself lucky when it's an acorn and not a
coconut......!!>>
What makes you sure they are not coconuts? Maybe we should reclassify our
ancestors, et. al. as "nutty" familes. "The Nuts on the Net". The imagery is
compelling to choose from:
Peanuts
Brazil - Ah, so part of the family speaks Portugese.
Hazelnuts:
Almonds
Pecans
Spanish:
Macadmia
Pistachio
Cashews: Our wealthy ancestors, the Cash-You's
Then there is always:
Flange nut
Flange nylon insert nut
Square nut
Coupling nut
KEP nut
I. P. S. panel nut
Castle nut
The entire newspaper article is pretty interesting actually. What I have
really loved are those who take my personal e-amil or US mail, put them on
gedcom files (or websites) which are sold to those commercial companies.
Really enjoy reading them on CD's at our FHC. Kinda weird, kinda etheral,
kinda surrealistic, kinda yucky.
"HORROR ON THE WEB by Myra Vanderpool Gormley, C.G. wrote an easy to
understand article about the great misunderstandings of what is "fair" to use
on genealogy websites. The first paragraph says it all...
"Many Internet genealogists are cyber thieves, plagiarists, and copyright
infringers. Most of them are nice people, but there are a few bad apples in
the cyber barrel. One thief, when confronted with her crime of stealing
dozens of Web pages, retaliated against the author by placing an ugly GIF
(graphics image) on her home page and labeled it with the author's name. This
reminds me of something a grade-school kid might do." (See:
http://www.ancestry.com/columns/myra/Shaking_Family_Tree10-29-98.htm)
Myra goes in her syndicated column about this subject.