Hello Roger and all,
I'm sending my reply to the list so that all can see.
Below is an outline descendant tree from the info I have inserted in my own
family tree file, thanks to Caroline and others. I apologise for the fact that
this makes a very lengthy mail, but I cannot send an attachment via the list. If
those more knowledgeable than I spot any big "boo-boos" please shout!
Please could everyone write to the list with queries/info so that all can see,
rather than to each other, unless it's a private message.
Descendants of John Challenger
1 John Challenger
......... 2 Job Challenger b: 1743 Baptism: March 4, 1742/43 Chelwood
Independant
............. +Mary Perry
.................... 3 Edmond Challenger b: Abt. 1760
........................ +Betty
............................... 4 [2] Benjamin Challenger b: 1784
................................... +[1] Mary Ann Tucker b: 1784 d: 1839 in
Clutton, somerset m: May 21, 1809 in Temple church, Bristol
.......................................... 5 [3] James Challenger b: 1822
Baptism: September 30, 1822 Midsomer Norton Wesleyan
.......................................... 5 [4] Benjamin Challenger b: 1809
Baptism: December 25, 1809 Clutton, somerset
............................................... +[5] Grace Rogers m:
December 25, 1835
.......................................... 5 [6] Ann Challenger b: 1812
Baptism: December 27, 1812 Clutton, somerset
............................................... +[7] James Simmons
.......................................... 5 [8] Jonas Challenger b: 1815
Baptism: April 30, 1815 Clutton, somerset
.......................................... 5 [9] Thomas Tucker Challenger b:
1817 Baptism: October 5, 1817 Midsomer Norton Wesleyan
.......................................... 5 [10] Martha Challenger b: 1820
Baptism: July 12, 1820 Midsomer Norton Wesleyan
.......................................... 5 [11] George Challenger b: 1827
Baptism: February 18, 1827
......... 2 William Challenger b: 1735
............. +Martha Britten m: September 18, 1760 in St Nicholas,
Radstock
.................... 3 Samuel Challenger b: November 16, 1760 in Midsomer
Norton
........................ +Elizabeth White m: January 1, 1787
.................... 3 Jane Challenger b: 1762 in Midsomer Norton Baptism:
April 11, 1762 Midsomer Norton
........................ +Thomas Tucker m: February 2, 1784 in Midsomer
Norton
............................... 4 [1] Mary Ann Tucker b: 1784 d: 1839 in
Clutton, somerset
................................... +[2] Benjamin Challenger b: 1784 m:
May 21, 1809 in Temple church, Bristol
.......................................... 5 [3] James Challenger b: 1822
Baptism: September 30, 1822 Midsomer Norton Wesleyan
.......................................... 5 [4] Benjamin Challenger b: 1809
Baptism: December 25, 1809 Clutton, somerset
............................................... +[5] Grace Rogers m:
December 25, 1835
.......................................... 5 [6] Ann Challenger b: 1812
Baptism: December 27, 1812 Clutton, somerset
............................................... +[7] James Simmons
.......................................... 5 [8] Jonas Challenger b: 1815
Baptism: April 30, 1815 Clutton, somerset
.......................................... 5 [9] Thomas Tucker Challenger b:
1817 Baptism: October 5, 1817 Midsomer Norton Wesleyan
.......................................... 5 [10] Martha Challenger b: 1820
Baptism: July 12, 1820 Midsomer Norton Wesleyan
.......................................... 5 [11] George Challenger b: 1827
Baptism: February 18, 1827
............................... 4 William Tucker b: 1785 in Midsomer Norton
Baptism: May 25, 1785 Midsomer Norton
................................... +Almira Parfitt m: 1811 in Clutton
.......................................... 5 Ann Tucker b: May 24, 1812 in
Clutton, somerset
.......................................... 5 William Tucker b: May 12, 1816 in
Clutton, somerset d: January 12, 1845 in Bedwellty, Monmouthshire
............................................... +Matilda b: Abt. 1820 m:
Abt. 1839 in Bedwellty, Monmouthshire
...................................................... 6 Elizabeth Tucker b:
Abt. 1840
.......................................... 5 Mary Tucker b: June 18, 1820 in
Clutton, somerset
.......................................... 5 Sarah Tucker b: August 10, 1823
.......................................... 5 George Blacker Tucker b:
September 23, 1827 in Clutton, somerset
.......................................... 5 David Tucker b: Abt. 1829
.......................................... 5 Almira Blacker Tucker b: October
18, 1835
............................... 4 Thomas Tucker b: 1789 in High Littleton,
Somerset Baptism: November 1, 1789 High Littleton, Somerset
............................... 4 Elisha Tucker b: 1792 in High Littleton,
Somerset Baptism: January 28, 1792 High Littleton, Somerset
................................... +Hester Pickford m: 1813 in Clutton
.......................................... 5 Henry Tucker b: December 25, 1813
in High Littleton, Somerset
.......................................... 5 Harriet Tucker b: April 16, 1815
.......................................... 5 Mercy Tucker b: July 14, 1816 in
Clutton, somerset
.......................................... 5 Thomas Tucker b: May 17, 1818 in
Clutton, somerset
.......................................... 5 Elijah Tucker b: December 5, 1819
in Clutton, somerset
.......................................... 5 Hester Tucker b: June 10, 1821 in
Clutton, somerset
.......................................... 5 George Tucker b: June 22, 1823 in
Clutton, somerset
.......................................... 5 James Tucker b: May 8, 1825 in
Clutton, somerset
.......................................... 5 Melinda Tucker b: February 18,
1827 in Clutton, somerset
.......................................... 5 Elijah Tucker b: June 15, 1828 in
Clutton, somerset
.......................................... 5 Matilda Tucker b: November 7,
1830
............................... 4 Aaron Tucker b: 1794 in High Littleton,
Somerset Baptism: January 5, 1794 High Littleton, Somerset
................................... +Ann b: 1791
.......................................... 5 Martha Tucker b: 1817 Baptism:
July 7, 1817 St Augustine's church, Clutton
.......................................... 5 Mary Tucker b: 1817 Baptism:
July 7, 1817 St Augustine's church, Clutton
.......................................... 5 John Tucker b: 1822 Baptism:
September 30, 1822 Midsomer Norton
.......................................... 5 Thomas Tucker b: 1822 Baptism:
September 30, 1822 Midsomer Norton
.......................................... 5 David Tucker b: 1824 in Midsomer
Norton Baptism: July 19, 1824 Midsomer Norton
.......................................... 5 Aaron Tucker b: 1827 in Clutton,
somerset d: January 23, 1901 Baptism: January 15, 1827 Midsomer Norton Burial:
St Augustine's church, Clutton
............................................... +Charlotte b: 1830 in Litton d:
July 5, 1887 Burial: St Augustine's church, Clutton
...................................................... 6 David Tucker b: 1859
in Farmborough d: December 18, 1901 Burial: St Augustine's church, Clutton
...................................................... 6 Enoch James Tucker b:
1865 in Farmborough
.......................................................... +Catherine Wyatt
m: January 29, 1891 in High Littleton
...................................................... 6 Thomas Tucker b: 1867
in Farmborough
...................................................... 6 Susan Tucker b: 1869
in Farmborough
...................................................... 6 Rhoda Tucker b: 1871
in Farmborough
.......................................... 5 Mercy Tucker b: 1829 Baptism:
July 6, 1829 Midsomer Norton
............................... 4 Moses Tucker b: 1796 in Clutton, somerset
Baptism: December 12, 1796 St Augustine's church, Clutton Burial: August 17,
1881 St Augustine's church, Clutton
................................... +Honor Dagger b: 1800 in Clutton, somerset
Baptism: June 29, 1800 St Augustine's church, Clutton m: May 27, 1822 in
Temple church, Bristol
.......................................... 5 Elizabeth 1 Tucker b: 1823 in
High Littleton, Somerset Baptism: January 12, 1823 High Littleton, Somerset
Burial: July 24, 1842 High Littleton, Somerset
............................................... +John Brooks m: March 18,
1842 in High Littleton
...................................................... 6 Elizabeth Tucker
Brooks b: July 24, 1842 Burial: September 6, 1843 High Littleton, Somerset
.......................................... 5 George Tucker b: June 19, 1825 in
High Littleton, Somerset Burial: February 2, 1840 High Littleton, Somerset
.......................................... 5 Enos Tucker b: September 6, 1829
in High Littleton, Somerset
............................................... +Mary Ann b: 1835 in Nailsea,
Somerset
...................................................... 6 Albert Tucker b: 1870
in Radstock, Somerset
...................................................... 6 Rosa Tucker b: 1875
in Radstock, Somerset
.......................................... 5 Emma Tucker b: June 23, 1833 in
High Littleton, Somerset
.......................................... 5 Sarah Ann Tucker b: January 8,
1837 in High Littleton, Somerset d: 1842 in High Littleton, Somerset Burial:
June 2, 1842 High Littleton, Somerset
.......................................... 5 Henry Tucker b: April 26, 1840 in
High Littleton, Somerset Residence: 1881 24 Moon St Roath Glamorgan
............................................... +Mary b: 1842 in High
Littleton, Somerset
...................................................... 6 Alice Tucker b: 1866
.......................................... 5 Elizabeth Tucker b: October 29,
1844 in High Littleton, Somerset
...................................................... 6 Sarah Emma Tucker b:
1862 in Clutton, somerset d: 1951 in Toronto, Ontario Baptism: September 7, 1862
Clutton, somerset Emigration: Bet. 1881 - 1891 Went to Ontario
.......................................................... +John Milling
m: in Ontario
................................................................. 7 John
Haward Milling
...................................................... 6 Gilbert Tucker b:
August 31, 1868 in Clutton, somerset Residence: June 1894 33 Arthur
Street, Roath
.......................................................... +Rose Annie Tucker
b: Abt. 1870 m: June 9, 1894 in Cardiff Register Office
............................................... +Richard Gough b: 1830 in
Ludford, Shropshire d: Abt. 1895 Baptism: June 13, 1830 Ludford, Shropshire
m: November 15, 1873 in Clutton Register Office Residence: 1881 12 Moon St,
Roath, Glamorgan
...................................................... 6 Henry John Gough b:
1874 in Clutton, somerset Baptism: September 27, 1874 St Augustine's church,
Clutton
...................................................... 6 Amy Jane Gough b:
1876 in Clutton, somerset d: 1903 in Glossop, Derbyshire
.......................................................... +John Ellis Chadwick
b: 1877 in Woolley Bridge, Hollingworth d: 1959 in Glossop, Derbyshire m:
February 1, 1896
...................................................... 6 Arthur Ernest Gough
b: January 7, 1878 in Cardiff d: October 1974 in Cardiff Honour: 1966
Knighthood Residence: 2 Tydraw Road, Cardiff
.......................................................... +Florence Tomkins
................................................................. 7 unknown
Gough
...................................................... 6 Theodore Alfred Gough
b: 1882 in Cardiff d: July 31, 1918 in Somme, France Burial: Crouy British
Cemetery, Crouy-Sur-Somme
...................................................... 6 Elsie Gough b: 1884
in Cardiff Emigration: 1928 Windsor, Ontario
.......................................................... +Mr Williams d:
Bef. 1928
...................................................... 6 Edward Charles Gough
b: 1886 in Cardiff d: Aft. 1951
...................................................... 6 Alice Mabel Gough b:
1887 in Cardiff Emigration: Bef. 1928 Windsor, Ontario
............................... 4 David Tucker b: 1799 in Clutton, somerset
Baptism: March 24, 1799 St Augustine's church, Clutton Residence: 1881 14
Wesleyan Row, Bedwelty, Monmouth
................................... +Elizabeth Phipps b: 1803 in Kingswood,
Gloucester m: December 29, 1824 in Kingswood
.......................................... 5 Aaron Tucker b: 1845 in
Kingswood, Gloucester
............................................... +Elizabeth b: 1848 in Tredegar,
Monmouth
...................................................... 6 Henry Tucker b: 1868
in Tredegar, Monmouth
...................................................... 6 Sarah Ann Tucker b:
1872 in Blackwood, Monmouth
............................... 4 Henry Tucker b: 1802 in Clutton, somerset
Baptism: August 8, 1802 St Augustine's church, Clutton
................................... +Maria Beacham m: May 14, 1833 in
Clutton
.......................................... 5 Henry Tucker b: 1837 Baptism:
April 2, 1837 Clutton, somerset
.......................................... 5 Thomas Tucker b: 1840 Baptism:
July 26, 1840 Long Ashton
.......................................... 5 Elizabeth Tucker b: 1842
Baptism: October 4, 1842 Clutton, somerset
.......................................... 5 Edwin Tucker b: 1846 Baptism:
June 12, 1846 Clutton, somerset
............................... 4 John Tucker b: 1806 Baptism: January 10,
1806 High Littleton, Somerset
................................... +Jane Dando m: December 25, 1831 in
Farmborough
.......................................... 5 Thomas Tucker b: 1834
.......................................... 5 Henry Tucker b: 1839
.......................................... 5 John Tucker b: 1843
.......................................... 5 Jabez Tucker b: 1846
.................... 3 Aaron Challenger b: October 9, 1763 in Midsomer Norton
........................ +Betty Summers m: November 3, 1801
.................... 3 John Challenger b: March 8, 1767 in Midsomer Norton
........................ +Mary Venn m: October 23, 1793
.................... 3 Phebe Challenger b: May 25, 1770 in Midsomer Norton
........................ +John Harding m: February 24, 1791
.................... 3 Sarah Challenger b: April 25, 1771 in Midsomer Norton
........................ +John Rowswell m: June 19, 1797
In generation 6, Amy Jane Gough and John Ellis Chadwick were my father's
parents.
----- Original Message -----
From: "roger.challenger" <roger.challenger(a)ntlworld.com>
To: "Marion Teague" <mummy(a)teagues.fsworld.co.uk>;
<glassborow01(a)Infonie.Fr>
Cc: "RogerHome" <roger.challenger(a)ntlworld.com>
Sent: 12 October 2001 01:07
Subject: Re: [CHALLENGER] Re: Where your lines meet.
Hi Marion & Barbara,
I hope you are well and feeling fit as I have some questions to you both
about your lines. I think that If you agree with all I say below then it
will definately help me understand your lines.
Marion kindly forwarded to me the very informative message that Caroline
Saunders sent: 05 October 2001 04:22 Subject: [CHALLENGER] Caroline
Saunders.
From what you have both told me, you are both descended from William
Challenger b1735 Midsomer Norton (Brother of Job b.1743).
Am I correct? I base this on the what Caroline say's and what you both
have sent me about yourselves ( included below the *****'s.)
Do you agree with what Caroline also say's :-
Job Challenger married Mary Perry of Clutton.
Job was baptised at Chelwood Independent 4 March 1743 son of John
Challenger.
Job was also the brother of William who was bapt Chelwood Independent on
the 5 Sept 1735. William Challenger of Clutton & Martha Britten of the
parish of Midsomer Norton married at St Nicholas church, Radstock on the 18
Sept 1760.
Caroline say's William Challenger had 7 children. The eldest was "Samuel
Challenger bapt 16 Nov 1760 Midsomer Norton, = Elizabeth White 1 Jan 1787 at
Radstock ( these are my 4x ggparents)".
Are these Carolines 4x ggparents?
She also mentions the 2nd of William's children :- "Jane Challenger bapt
11 April 1762 Midsomer Norton, = Thomas Tucker 2 Feb 1784 at Midsomer Norton
( Marian Teague & Maureen Simmons line )"
This is Marion's Jane Challenger of "Jane + Thomas Tucker " Yes?
In the 1841 and 1851 cencus' (cenci?) that Caroline includes, Henry
Challenger(? b1850?) Clutton was 9 & 19. This makes his b Abt 1842 not
b1850. Do you agree?
Did Benjamin Challenger b1810 Clutton (Son of Benjamin Challenger b 1784 +
Mary Ann Tucker b Abt 1785) marry Grace Marr b.1810 Cluuton?
Please let me know your views on the above.
regards
Roger
**************************************
In a previous message Marion, you replied to me:
>
> My line goes John Challenger > William> Jane + Thomas Tucker > Moses >
Elizabeth
>
Barbara provided me with :-
John Challenger
had sons William and Job
Job had son Edmond who married Betty
Their son Benjamin b 1784 died 22.10.1839 Clutton
He married Mary Ann Tucker 21.05.1809 Temple, Bristol
they had son
Benjamin b 1810 Clutton
he married Grace b 1810 Clutton
they had children
Ellen b1837
Martha b1839
Henry b1850 Clutton
Marion Teague is doing this line she maybe able to help you more
*************************************
Barbara in the same message said :-
" my line is
John Challenger
son William b1735 Midsomer Norton married Martha Britten 1760 Radstock
eldest son Samuel b1760 Radstock
married Elizabeth White 1787 Radstock
their 9th child John b1801 Dunkerton
married Susanna Jenkins 1834 Radstock
their 3rd child Charles born Camerton 1838
married Ann
Their 2nd child
Sarah b1871 married
my g grandfather Robert Marr and in 1887 my grandfather James Marr was born
in Oakenshaw Durham