I am a descendent of Thomas Witten (b.c.1630) as well
the Cecil family. The Cecil family intermarried
extensively with the Witten family; in fact, one large
group of them moved together from Prince George's Co.,
MD to Pulaski/Tazewell Co., VA c.1767. Thomas Witten
was born in Barbados and probably first became a
acquainted with the Cecils there. His son Thomas
(b.1672) married 1719 Ann Cecil (b.c.1700), daughter
of James Cecil (b.c.1670). James is shown on the 1715
Census of Barbados. I am not sure how James fits in
with the rest of the Cecils, and how he is related to
my primary Cecil ancestor William Cecil (b.c.1665)
except that James's grandson Thomas Witten ((b.1719)
married William's grandaughter Elizabeth Cecil
(b.c.1719) daughter of Phillip Cecil (b.1692). I
suspect they were cousins.
As Melissa said, they key is probably Barbados.
- Randy Jones
--- Melissa Alexander <ma.da(a)gte.net> wrote:
John Cissell (as opposed to John Cecil ?***?): from
Karen Salisbury: In
Colonial Settlers of St. Clement's Bay 1734-1780,
St. Mary's County, Md, by
Mary Louise Donnelly, Will: Probated 16 June 1698,
Appraised 26 July 1698,
...Ship Martha Constant...
He had the ship I believe-we know he had money since
he seems to have bought
land immediately: "Colonial Settlers, St. Clement's
Bay 1734-1780, St.
Mary's County, Maryland" by Mary Louise Donnelly,
states "John Cissell
(Cecil), a Catholic, immigrated to the Province of
Maryland in 1658 from
Wales, England (Patents 4:29). He married Mary
__________. Upon his
arrival, John Cissell was a man of means as he
purchased a number of tracts
in St. Mary's County. He became possessor of 150
acres of "White Acre"
which on 12-Nov-1652 had been patented for William
Brough on 25-Nov-1642,
who died in 1651leaving his total estate to his wife
Sarah (w 1:37).
He also married a Calvert as his second wife. So I
do not think he is the
same as the indentured Cecil's you mention below. I
do think, though, that
the Barbados records could be key, along with the
ownership records of the
"Constant Martha." I wonder if any one else has
done research on this and
noted something that would help.
MELISSA THOMPSON ALEXANDER
ma.da(a)gte.net
edmonds, washington, usa
-----Original Message-----
From: Pence234(a)aol.com [mailto:Pence234@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 1:36 PM
To: ma.da(a)gte.net
Subject: Re: new info available through LDS IGI
brings doubt that Thomas
Cecil father ...
In a message dated 1/11/01 9:34:01 PM Pacific
Standard Time, ma.da(a)gte.net
writes:
<<
"John and family had a sailing vessel called the
"Martha Constant" that
plied between Barbados Colony and the Maryland
Colony, plus visits to
Nevis,
Virgin Islands. Some of these sailings could have
been made for the
transport of indentured servants. Barbados dated
from 1627 with the
British, Maryland dated 1632 and Nevis dated from
1627-28 with the
British."
>>
Hi Melissa et everybody!
I don't know source of John Cecil (or Cissell)
having a ship called the
"Martha Constant." I DO know that from February of
1658 to March of 1680,
at
least 13 people were indentured servants from
England sent to Barbados,
Nevis, Maryland and Virginia. These men and women
were indentured to John,
Richard, Walter, James, John Jr. Cecil. Two of
these people, both
indentured
James and John Cecil, were transported on the ship
"Martha Constant."
There were several Cecils in Barbados at the
time--including a James and
Martin Cecil. Also living in Barbados about 1656
was Captain John
Higginbotham. This is of note because he migrated
to Maryland and his
descendants ended up in Tazewell, Virginia, about
the same time that my
Cecil
line moved there. Katherine Higginbotham is a
descendant of both lines, and
did lots of genealogy in the past (I don't believe
that she is still
living.)
Anyway, the puzzle gets more convoluted! If anybody
wants more detail on
this (such as names, etc.) I have them. Just don't
know WHICH Cecils are
involved, but it suggests a contact between those
Cecils of Barbados and the
Cecils of Maryland and Virginia.
Penny
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