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Subject:
������� Re: CECILS'
�� Date:
������� Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:05:15 -0400 (EDT)
�� From:
������� cecil(a)gowebway.com
���� To:
������� Donna Van Zandt <donavan(a)netins.net>
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Donna-----I just returned from the court house here in Vanderburgh
County. The
Death Certificate of George Harrison Cecil shows his parents to be
Ignatuis
Cecil and Sarah Kerrick both borned in Kentucky. It also revealed George
was
borned in 1836, not 1838. I'm confussed as to who or whom you think are
Ignatuis' ancestors. Of course, I have information on Georges' children
and
grand children. Your thoughts would be appreicated. I hope my input has
helped .
Jerry
�
With this e-mail after many years of wondering we finally have
confirmation that Ignatius J. Cecil married to Sarah Kerrick and James
and Sarah of Indiana are one and the same person.� I had tried for a
long time to find out who this was:
1860 Perry co. Indiana
Cybert Cecil 35 Ky
James 66 Ky
Sarah 59 Ky
George 23 Ky
Alex� 21
Frances 17
Felix 15 all born Ky
Chas. 6 Indiana
Chas. Falls 3 Indiana
Elisbert 5/12�� Ark.Using 1850 census and trying to trace the children
over 10 it looked very much like it might be Ignatius especially when
the children missing on 1860 census had marriage records in Perry Co.,
Indiana between 1850 and 1860.� This is waht we have put together for
Ignatius.� Can anyone help out with parents???? or add more
information.� Some of the children must have gone to Arkansas can anyone
help out there?� I suspect there is a connection to James S.of Martin
and Daviess Co. Indiana son of Rhody has anyone done research on that
group in Indiana?�� Here is what we have pieced together.� Note this
family consistently used the "Cecil" spelling although I have used
Cissell just because I had them in my Catholic file with that spelling.
Could this be a clue?� Donna
�
Descendants of Ignatius James Cissell
�
Generation No. 1
1.� IGNATIUS JAMES1 CISSELL was born Bet. 1794 - 1796 in Kentucky
(Source: Census Narrowing.), and died Aft. 1860 in (resided Perry Co.
Ind. 1860).� He married SARAH ANN KERRICK 24 April 1825 in Spencer co.
Kentucky.� She was born Abt. 1802 in Kentucky, and died Aft. 1860.
Notes for IGNATIUS JAMES CISSELL:
�
24 Apr. 1825 Ignatius Cecil married Sarah Ann Kerrick in Spencer Co.
Kentucky
1830 Spencer co. Ky
Ignatius Cissel� 1 m und 5, 1 m 30-40, 2 f und 5, 2 f 20-30,
1840 Mead co. Kentucky
Ignatius J. Cesil�� 2 m und 5, 1 m 10-15, 1 m 40-50, 2 f und 5, 2 f
5-10, 2 f 10-15, 1 f 30-40
1850 Mead Co. Kentucky
Ignatius Cecil 54 carpenter Ky
Sarah 48 Ky
Elizabeth 23 Ky
Sarah 19 Ky
Helen 17
Lucinda 14
George 12
Alexander 10
Catherine 9
Frances 7
Josiah 5 all born Ky
1860 Perry co. Indiana
Cybert Cecil 35 Ky
James 66 Ky
Sarah 59 Ky
George 23 Ky
Alex� 21
Frances 17
Felix 15 all born Ky
Chas. 6 Indiana
Chas. Falls 3 Indiana
Elisbert 5/12�� Ark.
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More About IGNATIUS JAMES CISSELL:
Misc.: At least 12 children
Resided: 1850, Spencer co. Kentucky
�
Children of IGNATIUS CISSELL and SARAH KERRICK are:
�i. FEMALE2 CISSELL, b. Bet. 1825 - 1830, Spencer co. Kentucky (Source:
1830 Census Spencer County, KY.).
2. ii. SEIBERT P. CISSELL, b. 17 April 1825, Spencer co. Kentucky-IGI
says Elizabethtown, Hardin Co., Ky.; d. August 1900.
3. iii. ELIZABETH A. CISSELL, b. Abt. 1827, Spencer co. Kentucky; d.
Arkansas?.
�iv. SARAH ANN CISSELL, b. Abt. 1831, Spencer co. Kentucky.
�v. HELEN CISSELL, b. Abt. 1833, Spencer co. Kentucky.
�vi. LUCINDA CISSELL, b. Abt. 1836, Spencer co. Kentucky.
4. vii. GEORGE HARRISON CISSELL, b. 26 November 1836, Spencer or Shelby
co. Kentucky; d. 22 March 1911, Vanderburgh County, Indiana.
�viii. ALEXANDER CISSELL, b. Abt. 1840, Spencer co. Kentucky.
�ix. CATHERINE CISSELL, b. Abt. 1841, Spencer co. Kentucky.
�x. FRANCES CISSELL, b. Abt. 1843, Spencer co. Kentucky.
5. xi. FELIX JOSIAH CISSELL, b. Abt. 1845, Spencer co. Kentucky.
�
Generation No. 2
2.� SEIBERT P.2 CISSELL (IGNATIUS JAMES1) was born 17 April 1825 in
Spencer co. Kentucky-IGI says Elizabethtown, Hardin Co., Ky., and died
August 1900 (Source: Jerry Cecil E-mail 20 April 1999.).� He married
SARAH SCULLY.� She was born 1856 (Source: Jerry Cecil E-mail 20 April
1999.), and died 01 November 1904.
Notes for SEIBERT P. CISSELL:
I cannot find a marriage for Seibert to Sarah Scully but did find this
marriage.
John C. Falls married Elizabeth A. Cecil 12 Feb. 1856 Perry co. Indiana
Lucina Cecil married James C. Bright 9 May 1858 Perry co. Indiana
Sipert P. Cicil married Jane Keenan 3 March 1862 Perry co. Indiana
Cecil, Sarah R. to Henry Chew 6 Nov. 1857-Perry co., Indiana
Cecil, Felix Josiah married Mary Dunlevy 19 Oct. 1865 Perry co. Indiana
Ciple, Francis W. to Amanda E. Biveon 15 Apr. 1864 Perry Co., Ind.
Cemetery Records:� St. Michael's Cemetery Perry Co., Indiana
Sarah daughter of S.P. and M.A. Cecil 3 October 1853-7 March 1855
Was he married 3 times????
Indiana IGI Seibert P Cecil married Sarah Scully 20 May 1865 Perry Co.,
Indiana-I haven't found this marriage.
�
Child of SEIBERT CISSELL and SARAH SCULLY is:
6. i. FRANCISCUM ALEXANDER3 CISSELL, b. 18 December 1880, Assumption,
Evansville, Vanderburgh Co., Indiana.
3.� ELIZABETH A.2 CISSELL (IGNATIUS JAMES1) was born Abt. 1827 in
Spencer co. Kentucky, and died in Arkansas?.� She married JOHN C. FALLS
12 February 1856 in Perry Co. Indiana.
�
Children of ELIZABETH CISSELL and JOHN FALLS are:
�i. CHARLES3 FALLS, b. Abt. 1857, Indiana.
�ii. ELSBERT FALLS, b. Abt. 1860, Arkansas.
4.� GEORGE HARRISON2 CISSELL (IGNATIUS JAMES1) (Source: (1) Jerry Cecil
E-mail 20 April 1999., (2) Death Record Vanderburgh County, Indiana,
Parents:� Ignatius and Sarah Kerrick Cecil.) was born 26 November 1836
in Spencer or Shelby co. Kentucky (Source: Jerry Cecil E-mail 20 April
1999.), and died 22 March 1911 in Vanderburgh County, Indiana.� He
married ARTIEMECIA ANN ANDERSON 19 June 1862 in Dubois County, Indiana
(Source: Indiana Marriage CD.), daughter of WILLIAM ANDERSON and
ELIZABETH MASON.� She was born 29 January 1842 in Pike County, Indiana
(Source: Jerry Cecil E-mail 20 April 1999.), and died 17 January 1904.
Notes for GEORGE HARRISON CISSELL:
�
1880 Pope County, Illinois soundex
Cecil, George 46 Ky
Arteanissa? 35 Ind
William 14 Ky
George 10 Ind.
Edward 6 Ind
Auty? 3 (f) Illinois
Spenny? 1/12 (f) Illinois
(Could there be a connection?� Nancy Cecil married John Thompson 26
Sept. 1837 Pope County, Illinois)
More About GEORGE HARRISON CISSELL:
Cemetery: St. Joseph Cemetery, Evansville, Vanderburgh County, Indiana
More About ARTIEMECIA ANN ANDERSON:
Cemetery: Locust Hill Cemetery, Evansville, Vanderburgh County, Indiana
�
Children of GEORGE CISSELL and ARTIEMECIA ANDERSON are:
�i. WILLIAM A.3 CISSELL, b. 28 April 1866, Henderson, Henderson County,
Kentucky; d. 20 August 1935; m. STELLA LAMAR.
�ii. GEORGE HARRISON CISSELL, JR., b. 01 April 1870, Evansville,
Vanderburgh County, Indiana; d. 08 August 1913; m. MARGARET ROSCHRIB, 04
September 1895, Vanderburgh County, Indiana.
�iii. ALEXANDER CISSELL, b. 21 March 1872, Evansville, Vanderburgh
County, Indiana; d. 19 September 1874.
�iv. EDWARD A. CISSELL, b. 16 September 1874, Evansville, Vanderburgh
County, Indiana; m. MINNIE M. GREEN, 29 June 1898, Vanderburgh County,
Indiana.
�v. ARTIE B. CISSELL, b. 07 March 1877, Rosiclare, Hardin County,
Illinois; d. 25 May 1916; m. WILLIAM L. POWELL, 03 September 1908,
Vanderburgh County, Indiana.
�vi. BENJAMIN CISSELL, b. 09 November 1879, Hardin, Illinois; m. NANCY
DEAN.
�vii. OSCAR ROY CISSELL, b. 24 March 1882, Pope County, Illinois; d.
1958; m. VELMAR SHELTON.
Notes for OSCAR ROY CISSELL:
�
Twin to Austin Roy
�viii. AUSTIN ROY CISSELL, b. 24 March 1882; d. 01 December 1934; m.
EMMA DIEGNAR, 05 September 1904, Vanderburgh County, Indiana.
5.� FELIX JOSIAH2 CISSELL (IGNATIUS JAMES1) was born Abt. 1845 in
Spencer co. Kentucky.� He married (1) MOLLIE J. HEADLEY 19 June 1870 in
Vanderburgh County, Indiana.��� He married (2) MARGARET REYNOLDS 31 July
1879 in Vanderburgh County, Indiana.
Notes for FELIX JOSIAH CISSELL:
�
1880 Pope Co. Illinois Soundex
Cecil, F. J. 35 Ky
Margaret 19 Tenn
Emma 7 Indiana
Felix J. Cecil married Margaret Reynolds 31 July, 1879 in Vanderburgh
co. Ind.
�
Child of FELIX CISSELL and MOLLIE HEADLEY is:
�i. EMMA D.3 CISSELL (Source: Family History Center CD.), b. 30 June
1873, Assumption, Evansville, Vanderburgh Co., Indiana.
�
Generation No. 3
6.� FRANCISCUM ALEXANDER3 CISSELL (SEIBERT P.2, IGNATIUS JAMES1)
(Source: Family History Center CD.) was born 18 December 1880 in
Assumption, Evansville, Vanderburgh Co., Indiana (Source: Family History
Center CD.).� He married KATHERINE E. O'DONAVAN (Source: Indiana IGI.)
12 June 1906 in Evansville, Vanderburgh County, Indiana.
�
Children of FRANCISCUM CISSELL and KATHERINE O'DONAVAN are:
�i. JAMES FRANCIS4 CISSELL (Source: Indiana IGI.), b. 03 June 1908,
Evansville, Vanderburgh County, Indiana (Source: Indiana IGI.).
�ii. EUGENE DONAVAN VARNER CISSELL (Source: Indiana IGI.), b. 05
November 1909, Evansville, Vanderburgh County, Indiana.
�iii. JOHN SEIBERT CISSELL (Source: Indiana IGI.), b. 29 August 1919,
Evansville, Vanderburgh County, Indiana (Source: Indiana IGI.).
�iv. JOSEPH ANTHONY PAUL CISSELL (Source: Indiana IGI.), b. 24 September
1921, Evansville, Vanderburgh County, Indiana (Source: Indiana IGI.).
�
Francine
Did someone send you information? I note you have Peter Cissell, b 1764,
married to Eleanor Cissell, b 1724-not likely. This Eleanor Cissell would
prob have been born 1760-1782. She could possibly be the daughter of
Ignatius Cissell (c 1735-1788) and Elizabeth Unknown. This Eleanor was born
22-Jun-1776. Does anyone else have a marriage for this Eleanor, or a better
idea on which Eleanor Cissell married Peter Cissell.
Melissa Thompson Alexander
I'm forwarding this message to a couple of groups. I'm renewing my search of
John Anselm/John Hanson/John M. Bright.
I hope someone can help.
Francine Conn Halter
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In a message dated 5/2/99 3:00:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
JHigdon(a)Bellsouth.net writes:
<< Subj: Bright line
Date: 5/2/99 3:00:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From: JHigdon(a)Bellsouth.net (Charles Higdon)
Reply-to: <A
HREF="mailto:JHigdon@Bellsouth.net">JHigdon(a)Bellsouth.net</A>
To: LFHalter(a)aol.com
Francine,
Were you not looking for information on Charles Bright? I found some
this afternoon while looking through a book by Thompson on the Rolling
Fork Settlement; present day Marion Co. - Washington Co. before 1834.
You may well have this already, but just in case thought I would bring
it to your attention. There are a number of early church records here,
mixed with research done by Thompson.
198: "John Anselm Bright 'John M.' b. 1789. Ward of Mark Brewer in
1808. m. Theresa 'Treacy' Cissell, d/o Peter & Eleanor Cissell, bond
8/09/1808, Washington Co., KY, Bk 1, pg. 83. Her father had died in the
fall of 1803. See Wash. Co. Will Bk 1, pgs. 283-284. f/o Charles b.
ca. 1809, Valentine b. ca. 1811 & Mary b. ca. 1813. d. 4/21/1837, aged
abt. 48 yrs., g. Sacred Heart Cemetery, St. Vincent, Union Co., KY.
Hanson Bright was the surety for the bond for the marriage of John Drury
U his fiancee's sister, Catherine Cissell, dated 4/30/1808, Washington
Co., KY. John & Catherine were md. 5/04/1808 by Father Charles
Nerincky, Bk. 1, pg. 83."
There are Bapt. information regarding Charles Bright, Mary Bright, and
Valentine Bright. The marriage data of a Susan Bright to Wendell Bright
bond in 1829. Also, a description of Theresa (Cissell) Bright which is
similar to the one given for her husband above.
If this is of interest I shall copy it for you.
Regards, Jackie >>
Jackie, thanks for the info.
How do you read this? What was John Bright's real name?
John Anselm Bright?
John Hanson Bright?
John M. Bright?
It sure makes it difficult looking for records of him?
I can't seem to find anything about him before ward of Mark Brewer 1808 &
marrying Teresa Cissell in 1808.
Wonder why he was a "ward" of Mark Brewer. I can't find any previous
connection between them?
I haven't sent a query in a long time to the Cecil/Cissell list. I'm trying
to find connections and/or information about these lines. This is a direct
line for me.
Francine Conn Halter
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1 Peter Cissell b: June 29, 1764 in St. Mary's Co., MD d: Bef.
November 07,
1803 in Washington Co., KY
.. +Eleanor Cissell b: 1724 in St. Mary's Co., MD d: December
11, 1772 in
St. Mary's Co., MD m: April 01, 1798 in Nelson Co.,KY
Father: Arthur Cissell Mother: Mary Doyne
.. 2 Theresa Cissell b: 1790 in St. Mary's Co., MD d: October
1833 in
Washington Co., KY
...... +John Anselm "Hanson" Bright b: Abt. 1789 in St.Mary's Co., MD
d:
April 21, 1837 in St. Vincent, Union Co., KY m: August 09,
1808 in
Washington Co., KY
...... 3 Isabelle Bright
.......... +James Thompson
...... 3 Charles Bright b: May 05, 1809 in Washington Co., KY d:
December
27, 1859 in Graves Co., KY
.......... +Mary Ann Margery Shanks b: September 20, 1813
in Nelson Co., KY
d: February 10, 1902 in Graves Co., KY m: April 16,
1833 in St.
Vincent's, Union Co., KY Father: Charles
Shanks Mother: Lydia
Wethington
...... 3 James Valentine Bright b: March 1811 in Washington Co., KY
d:
Abt. 1840 in Graves Co., KY
.......... +Belinda A. Pierceall b: June 14, 1813 in
Washington Co., KY
(Marion Co.) d: November 28, 1887 in Indian Creek
Cem., Monroe
Co., MO m: March 07, 1831 in St. Vincent's, Union
Co., KY
Father: Joseph Pierceall Mother: Elizabeth
Abell
...... 3 Mary B. Bright b: May 02, 1813 in Washington Co., KY d:
July 07,
1855
.......... +Charles Girten d: July 03, 1855 m: August 02,
1831 in Union Co., KY 3 Catherine Martina Bright b:
Abt. 1819 d: August 1869
.......... +William L. Shanks m: August 25, 1840 in Union
Co., KY
...... 3 Teresa Bright b: October 26, 1820 in Union Co., KY d:
October 13,
1839
.......... +George Alvey d: March 17, 1848 m:
April 04, 1837 in Union Co.,
KY
...... 3 John H. Bright, Jr. b: September 06, 1824 in Union Co.,
KY d: 1878 in
Union Co., KY
.......... +Matilda Girten b: Abt. 1829 d: March 28, 1901
...... 3 Casimir Bright b: September 06, 1827 in Union Co., KY
.. 2 Catherine Cissell
..... +John Drury m: April 30, 1804 in Washington Co., KY
Father: Joseph Drury 2 Mary Cissell b: 1790 d: Bef. 1815
...... +John Burch m: September 13, 1811 in Washington Co., KY