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This is in response to a post on The Cecil List by Don and Melissa
Alexander. The Cecil's and Samples's were close families with children of
James Sample and both wives Elizabeth Herndon and Elizabeth marrying
Cecil's. My sources are listed but if anyone has additional info, sources
or corrections please respond.
Descendants of William Sample
Generation No. 1
1. WILLIAM1 SAMPLE1 was born in Botetourt County, Virginia, and died
March.28.1850 in Russell County, Virginia. He married NANCY WILSON1,
daughter of HARRIS WILSON.
Notes for WILLIAM SAMPLE:
Resided Botetourt County, Virginia
Signed his will March 28, 1850. It was probated 5 days later
William was deeded land from Patrick Kendricks on Sept 24, 1804 recorded in
Russell county deed book vol. 3 Page 521. It was for 50 acres on Sugar Run a
branch of the Clinch River.
Notes for NANCY WILSON:
Signed her will February 22, 1859 by mark. It was probated June 9, 1859
Children of WILLIAM SAMPLE and NANCY WILSON are:
2. i. JAMES2 SAMPLE, b. December.31.1801, Russell County, Virginia; d.
August.23.1853, Russell County, Virginia.
ii. PATSY SAMPLE, b. July.26.1791.
3. iii. CHARLES SAMPLE, b. November.19.1793, Swords Creek, Virginia; d. Mt
Sterling, Kentucky.
iv. SALLY SAMPLE, b. July.08.1791; m. ENOCH PRATT.
v. ANNA SAMPLE, b. May.08.1804; m. ABSOLEM HURT.
vi. DELILIA SAMPLE, b. September.24.1806; m. SIMEON HUNT.
vii. POLLY SAMPLE, b. December.04.1808.
viii. LEWIS SAMPLE, b. July.02.1814; m. ANN REDWINE.
Generation No. 2
2. JAMES2 SAMPLE (WILLIAM1)2 was born December.31.1801 in Russell County,
Virginia, and died August.23.1853 in Russell County, Virginia. He married
(1) ELIZABETH HERNDON2. He married (2) ELIZABETH CELIA FULLER2 June.16.1825
in Russell County, Virginia, daughter of STEPHEN FULLER and NANCY GIBSON.
Notes for JAMES SAMPLE:
Russell County,Virginia constable 1834-43, Commissioner of Revenue 1848
Lieutenant of Militia 1829
Notes for ELIZABETH CELIA FULLER:
Reportedly the daughter of Steven Fuller and a Gibson of Russell County
Steven Fuller reportedly the son of Chief Justice Fuller of the Supreme
Court
Children of JAMES SAMPLE and ELIZABETH HERNDON are:
4. i. CELIA L.3 SAMPLE, b. June.09.1842; d. Tazewell County, Virginia.
ii. LARKIN J. SAMPLE, b. June.30.1840, Swords Creek, Virginia; d.
October.19.1915, Swords Creek, Virginia; m. ELIZABETH STEELE,
September.02.1862.
Notes for LARKIN J. SAMPLE:
Married to a Miss Clark
Resided near Swords Creek, Virginia
Son Granville,Lafayette
DAughter Alice
iii. SOFIE ELIZABETH SAMPLE, b. March.16.1844; d. Abt. 1926; m. ISIAH HUNT,
June.14.1868, Swords Creek, Virginia.
iv. ELBERT SENIOR SAMPLE, b. June.1853, Swords Creek, Virginia; d. Aft.
1880, Rothwell, Kentucky; m. SALINA K. CLARK, September.23.1875, Swords
Creek, Virginia.
v. SARAH ELLEN SAMPLE, b. Abt. 1851, Virginia.
vi. NANCY J. SAMPLE, b. Abt. 1846, Russell County, Virginia; m. SHADRACK W.
RATCLIFF, June.25.1872, Russell County, Virginia.
Children of JAMES SAMPLE and ELIZABETH FULLER are:
vii. STEVEN GIBSON3 SAMPLE, b. April.06.1826; d. February.02.1907, Ezel,
Kentucky; m. LOUISA M. CECIL, January.01.1851.
viii. WILLIAM PATTON SAMPLE3, b. March.20.1830; d. November.29.1899; m.
RHODA REPASS.
Notes for WILLIAM PATTON SAMPLE:
Enlisted in The Confederate Army, as a Captain, in Virginia. After the war
came to Kentucky and settled in Maytown where he resided until his death.
5. ix. JAMES FRANK SAMPLE, b. May.22.1832, Swords Creek, Virginia; d.
August.17.1907, Ezel, Kentucky.
6. x. HENRY L. SAMPLE, b. December.30.1836, Swords Creek,Russell County,
Virginia; d. Laurel Creek, Wolfe County, Kentucky.
7. xi. LUCINDA CATHERINE SAMPLE, b. February.04.1828, Swords Creek,
Virginia; d. December.16.1900, Swords Creek, Virginia.
3. CHARLES2 SAMPLE (WILLIAM1) was born November.19.1793 in Swords Creek,
Virginia, and died in Mt Sterling, Kentucky.
Children of CHARLES SAMPLE are:
i. CHARLES3 SAMPLE, b. Abt. 1826.
ii. ELIZABETH SAMPLE, b. Abt. 1838.
iii. JAMES SAMPLE, b. Abt. 1833.
iv. JOHN SAMPLE, b. Abt. 1837.
Generation No. 3
4. CELIA L.3 SAMPLE (JAMES2, WILLIAM1)4 was born June.09.1842, and died in
Tazewell County, Virginia. She married ROBERT M. CECIL5 September.30.1862 in
Tazewell County, Virginia, son of SAMUEL CECIL and NANCY CORRELL.
Notes for ROBERT M. CECIL:
Came to Kentucky around 1880 to Baptist Fork of Stillwater Creek in Wolfe
county.Second son Sam was arount 12 years old.
Middle name Mitchel
Look in "History of Wolf County" by Women's Club Page 81
Children of CELIA SAMPLE and ROBERT CECIL are:
8. i. NANNIE ELIZABETH4 CECIL, b. April.08.1866, Tazewell County, Virginia;
d. March.27.1948, Lexington, Kentucky Hillcrest Cemetary.
ii. FRANK CECIL, b. Tazewell County, Virginia; m. LULA CHANEY.
iii. SAM CECIL, m. LULA ROSE.
iv. JOHN CECIL, m. CLARA BROWN.
v. LOU CECIL, m. ? NEFF.
vi. ELLA CECIL, m. HIRAM LONG.
vii. MOLLY CECIL, m. JOSEPH BROWN.
viii. MAGGIE CECIL, m. OTIS LINKOUS.
ix. TOM CECIL, m. (1) A. PECK; m. (2) FANNIE PECK.
5. JAMES FRANK3 SAMPLE (JAMES2, WILLIAM1) was born May.22.1832 in Swords
Creek, Virginia, and died August.17.1907 in Ezel, Kentucky. He married OLIVE
ANN GOODWIN February.1887, daughter of DAVID GOODWIN and ELIZA PIERATT.
Children of JAMES SAMPLE and OLIVE GOODWIN are:
i. EMMA4 SAMPLE.
ii. FRANK SAMPLE.
iii. ASA SAMPLE.
iv. CELIA SAMPLE.
v. OLLIE SAMPLE.
vi. WINIFRED SAMPLE.
vii. ANNE SAMPLE.
6. HENRY L.3 SAMPLE (JAMES2, WILLIAM1) was born December.30.1836 in Swords
Creek,Russell County, Virginia, and died in Laurel Creek, Wolfe County,
Kentucky. He married MARY CLARK.
Children of HENRY SAMPLE and MARY CLARK are:
i. ELLEN4 SAMPLE.
ii. LAURA SAMPLE.
iii. FRANK SAMPLE.
iv. GEORGE SAMPLE.
v. NANNIE SAMPLE.
vi. RHODA SAMPLE.
vii. REBECCA SAMPLE.
viii. DORA SAMPLE.
ix. LOU SAMPLE.
x. CALLIE SAMPLE.
xi. CELIA SAMPLE.
7. LUCINDA CATHERINE3 SAMPLE (JAMES2, WILLIAM1)6,7 was born February.04.1828
in Swords Creek, Virginia, and died December.16.1900 in Swords Creek,
Virginia. She married JAMES M. CECIL8 October.22.1845 in Russell County,
Virginia, son of SAMUEL CECIL and REBECCA SMITH.
Notes for JAMES M. CECIL:
Ten Children known
In 1858 they moved from Virginia to Morgan County, Kentucky and purchased a
farm about two miles southeast of Ezell, Kentucky.
Children of LUCINDA SAMPLE and JAMES CECIL are:
i. CHARLES W.4 CECIL9, b. 1848; m. MOLLIE SPRADLING.
ii. MARGARET E. CECIL9, b. 1850; m. PERRY CARTER.
iii. JAMES F. CECIL10, b. April.22.1853; d. February.17.1911; m. ROSA BELLE
SWANGO.
iv. ANNA CECIL, b. 1856, Virginia.
v. SAMUEL CECIL, b. 1858, Kentucky.
vi. WILLIAM CECIL, b. 1860, Kentucky.
vii. J.B. CECIL, b. Aft. 1860.
Generation No. 4
8. NANNIE ELIZABETH4 CECIL (CELIA L.3 SAMPLE, JAMES2, WILLIAM1) was born
April.08.1866 in Tazewell County, Virginia, and died March.27.1948 in
Lexington, Kentucky Hillcrest Cemetary. She married JOHN MORGAN WALLACE, son
of WILLIAM WALLACE and MARTHA LINKOUS.
Notes for JOHN MORGAN WALLACE:
Moved from Clinch River Area in Virginia about 1882
Sisters were Mrs. Lizzie (Wallace) Nickels and Mrs. Minnie (Wallace) Pieratt
John And Nannie moved from Virginia together and married shortly thereafter
All children supposedly born in Wolfe county near Hazel Green
Children of NANNIE CECIL and JOHN WALLACE are:
i. WILLIAM FLOYD5 WALLACE, b. January.23.1886, Wolf County, Kentucky; d.
November.11.1962, Lexington, Kentucky Hillcrest Cemetary; m. VIRGIL AUSTIN
LOVELACE, March.20.1918, Wolf County, Kentucky.
ii. JAMES FRANKLIN WALLACE, b. November.27.1884, Morgan County, Kentucky; d.
February.01.1936, Clark County, Kentucky; m. CLARY ALICE BLANKENSHIP.
iii. BRACK WALLACE, b. July.28.1887.
iv. BERTHA WALLACE, b. Unknown.
v. ELMER WALLACE, b. November.13.1889.
vi. EDGAR WALLACE, b. March.20.1891.
vii. VERT WALLACE, b. September.10.1894.
viii. THOMAS ALBERT WALLACE, b. December.31.1898; d. 1983, Fayette County;
m. HALLIE JONES.
ix. MATTIE WALLACE, b. August.10.1900.
x. OLA WALLACE, b. December.23.1901.
xi. JOHN WALLACE, b. November.25.1903.
xii. ROBERT WALLACE, b. November.25.1903.
xiii. EUNICE WALLACE, b. November.24.1907.
Endnotes
1. "Early and Modern History of Wolfe County" by Wolfe County Women''s Club,
abt 1952, pg 213.
2. "Early and Modern History of Wolfe County" by Wolfe County Women''s Club,
abt 1952.
3. "Early and Modern History of Wolfe County" by Wolfe County Women''s Club,
abt 1952, pg 212.
4. "Early and Modern History of Wolfe County" by Wolfe County Women''s Club,
abt 1952.
5. Will Book # 4, Tazewell County, Virginia, Page 308, Probated March 1871.
6. 1860 Census, Morgan County, Kentucky.
7. "Early and Modern History of Wolfe County" by Wolfe County Women''s Club,
abt 1952, pg 75.
8. 1860 Census, Morgan County, Kentucky.
9. "Early and Modern History of Wolfe County" by Wolfe County Women''s Club,
abt 1952, pg 75.
10. 1860 Census, Morgan County, Kentucky.
From: Paul and Dorothy Tobler <tobler(a)hctc.net>
Just a big Thanks on this. Paul
At 01:39 PM 1/20/99 -0500, you wrote:
>From: Donna Van Zandt <donavan(a)netins.net>
>
>Paul, I'm glad it was something new.� this is a little more on the
Millikan.� Is
>that the one you were interested in?� I might have that paper named I'll
have to
>look.
>�
>
>Descendants of Ann Cecil
>�
>
>Generation No. 1
>
>�1.� Ann4 Cecil� (Thomas3, John2, William1) was born Abt. 1756.� She
married (1)
>Ninian Beall Abt. 1772.� She married (2) Richard Mullikin 14 December 1785.
>
>Notes for Richard Mullikin:
>�
>
>For more information on this family see the manuscript of Mrs. Leroy Millikan
>which is deposited in several libraries including the Allen County
Library, Fort
>Wayne, Indiana.� Early Families southern Maryland Vol. I EGJ
>�
>Children of Ann Cecil and Ninian Beall are:
>�2 i. Horatio5 Beall, born Abt. 1773.� He married Harriet Barron.
>�3 ii. Elizabeth Beall, born Abt. 1775.� She married Oliver Barron 28 May
1800.
>�4 iii. George Beall, born Abt. 1780; died Abt. 1856.� He married
Elizabeth Beall
>13 September 1800.
>�5 iv. Catherine Beall, born Abt. 1783; died Abt. 1816.
>�
>Children of Ann Cecil and Richard Mullikin are:
>�6 i. Mary5 Mullikin.
>�7 ii. Catherine Mullikin.
>�8 iii. George Mullikin.
>�9 iv. Ninian Mullikin.
>�10 v. Flora Mullikin.
>�
>�
>
>Randy Jones wrote:
>
>> From: Paul and Dorothy Tobler <tobler(a)hctc.net>
>>
>> Thank you very much as have been looking for this connection for over a
>> decade at least.� Cheers, Paul
>> ================================
>>
>> At 04:56 PM 1/19/99 -0500, you wrote:
>> >From: Donna Van Zandt <donavan(a)netins.net>
>> >
>> >
>> >Descendants of Thomas Cecil
>> >
>> >
>> >Generation No. 1
>> >
>> > 1.� Thomas3 Cecil� (John2, William1)1 was born Abt. 1726 in Prince George
>> co.
>> >Maryland2, and died Abt. 1786 in Prince George co. Maryland.� He married
>> Mary ??.
>> >
>> >Child of Thomas Cecil and Mary ?? is:
>> > 2 i. Ann4 Cecil, born Abt. 1756.� She married (1) Ninian Beall Abt.
>> 1772.� She
>> >married (2) Richard Mullikin 14 December 1785.
>> >
>> >
>> >Endnotes
>> >
>> >1.� Early Families of Southern Maryland Volume I by Elise Greenup Jourdan,
>> 18.
>> >2.� Early Families of Southern Maryland Volume I by Elise Greenup Jourdan,
>> 18,
>> >>From Census.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Stephanie Cecil wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello all.
>> >> >From all of you I've received a great deal of information on the
>> descendants
>> >> of Samuel Witten and Rebecca White Cecil [my husband's ancestors] but
>> only a
>> >> little of his brother Sabrett Sollars and Mary� Beale Cecil's
descendants.
>> >> And I have nothing at all for the other brothers,
>> Zephaniah[c.1719-aft1769],
>> >> Thomas[c.1725-bef4/1801],
>> >> William[c.1732-abt 1808] and James[1734-1801] and Jane Thomas.[One child
>> >> only for them]�� Are these other lines not as prolific� or as well
>> >> researched� or have I just� not seen the� postings?
>> >> Also� Dorothy was looking for info on a Samual[Samuel?] Cecil m. Kizzie
>> >> Thomas abt 1903 --had children Sally Jane,1903-1919 and Ezekiel, b. 1905
>> >> Scott Co TN.
>> >> Does someone know who his father was?� Something� about this� sort of
>> rang a
>> >> bell.
>> >> Thanks. Steph������� stephaxi(a)mindspring.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> Please visit our home page.� It will always be under construction.� Our
>> latest addition is the World War II Memorial to the lost 52 Submarines and
>> their men.
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/3778/index.html
>
>
>
Please visit our home page. It will always be under construction. Our
latest addition is the World War II Memorial to the lost 52 Submarines and
their men.
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/3778/index.html
From: Paul and Dorothy Tobler <tobler(a)hctc.net>
Thank You for the complement Donna. We all attempt to get the correct answers
but this is a problem. Cheerfully, Paul
========================
At 01:42 PM 1/20/99 -0500, you wrote:
>From: Donna Van Zandt <donavan(a)netins.net>
>
>Certainly not confused as usual.� I have seen your homepage and I "zone
out" after
>10 generations or so.� How you keep all that straight is amazing.� I'm not
certain
>which one you mentioned is the correct one.� William I listed was the son
of John
>and Elizabeth Sollers Cecil.� Sources would be Walter V. Ball pg. 23;�
Greenup,
>Witten, Cecil by EGJ pg. 273;� Early Families of Southern Maryland Vol. I
by EGJ
>who goes on to qualify it by saying with so little known of this family we
cannot
>be certain this is the correct William.� As most of you know I am usually
inclined
>to go with WVB unless proven to the contrary.� His work with Maryland Cecil
>families was so accurate.� Donna
>�
>�
>
>Randy Jones wrote:
>
>> From: Paul and Dorothy Tobler <tobler(a)hctc.net>
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Am confused here as follows:
>>
>> Have
>>
>> 1st choice:Wm CECIL (Cissell) born 1724-1730 s/o Luke CECIL and Thomasin
>> HAYDEN
>> 2nd choice:Wm CECIL receiving 1 Stirling piece from gdfather's will
>> ������� born c 1733 s/o Wm born 1712 and named next of kin by Mary wife of
>> ������� Thomas UNDERWOOD.
>> 3rd choice: Wm B. CECIL b. 1730-32 died 1808 md Elizabeth ? in 1754
>>
>> So who is the Wm CECIL b. 17323, and died c 1808 that had wife named
Rachel ??
>>
>> ����������������������� Confused as usual, Paul
>> ===================================
>>
>> At 04:57 PM 1/19/99 -0500, you wrote:
>> >From: Donna Van Zandt <donavan(a)netins.net>
>> >
>> >
>> >Descendants of William Cecil
>> >
>> >
>> >Generation No. 1
>> >
>> > 1.� William3 Cecil� (John2, William1)1,2 was born Abt. 17323, and died
Abt.
>> >1808.� He married Rachel ??.
>> >
>> >Notes for William Cecil:
>> >
>> >
>> >The Cecil Family of Maryland by Walter V. Ball pg. 23
>> >Will Bk GMR-B, No. 1, Fol. 384
>> >
>> >"To my loving wife Rachel Cecil all of my estate, real and personal, that
>> I am
>> >possessed of, or otherwise entitled to, and I appoint my loving wife,
>> Rachel, my
>> >sole executrix." Signed by (X) mark.� Proved June 1, 1808.� It would
>> appear from
>> >this will that William Cecil had no children.� WVB
>> >
>> >(This is one to check out for that old William in Chester Co. Pa.)
>> >
>> >
>> >Endnotes
>> >
>> >1.� Early Families of Southern Maryland Volume I by Elise Greenup Jourdan,
>> 18.
>> >2.� The Cecil Family of Maryland by Walter V. Ball.
>> >3.� Early Families of Southern Maryland Volume I by Elise Greenup Jourdan,
>> 18.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Stephanie Cecil wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello all.
>> >> >From all of you I've received a great deal of information on the
>> descendants
>> >> of Samuel Witten and Rebecca White Cecil [my husband's ancestors] but
>> only a
>> >> little of his brother Sabrett Sollars and Mary� Beale Cecil's
descendants.
>> >> And I have nothing at all for the other brothers,
>> Zephaniah[c.1719-aft1769],
>> >> Thomas[c.1725-bef4/1801],
>> >> William[c.1732-abt 1808] and James[1734-1801] and Jane Thomas.[One child
>> >> only for them]�� Are these other lines not as prolific� or as well
>> >> researched� or have I just� not seen the� postings?
>> >> Also� Dorothy was looking for info on a Samual[Samuel?] Cecil m. Kizzie
>> >> Thomas abt 1903 --had children Sally Jane,1903-1919 and Ezekiel, b. 1905
>> >> Scott Co TN.
>> >> Does someone know who his father was?� Something� about this� sort of
>> rang a
>> >> bell.
>> >> Thanks. Steph������� stephaxi(a)mindspring.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> Please visit our home page.� It will always be under construction.� Our
>> latest addition is the World War II Memorial to the lost 52 Submarines and
>> their men.
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/3778/index.html
>
>
>
Please visit our home page. It will always be under construction. Our
latest addition is the World War II Memorial to the lost 52 Submarines and
their men.
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/3778/index.html
Here is what I have on the James Sample who had two different daughters from
2 different wives who married Cecil boys:
Generation No. 1
1. James1 Sample was born 3-Dec-1802 in Sword's Cr., VA (Source: Randy
Jones, rjones(a)charweb.org.), and died 23-Aug-1853 in Sword's Cr., VA
(Source: Randy Jones, rjones(a)charweb.org.). He married (1) Elizabeth
Herndon Abt. 1816 (Source: Randy Jones, rjones(a)charweb.org.). He married
(2) Elizabeth Celia Fuller 16-Jun-1825 in his 2nd marriage (Source: Randy
Jones, rjones(a)charweb.org.).
Child of James Sample and Elizabeth Herndon is:
+ 2 i. Celia L.2 Sample, born 9-Jun-1842.
Child of James Sample and Elizabeth Fuller is:
+ 3 i. Lucinda Catherine2 Sample, born Abt. 1828 in VA.
Generation No. 2
2. Celia L.2 Sample (James1) was born 9-Jun-1842. She married Robert
Mitchell Cecil 30-Sep-1862, son of Samuel Cecil and Nancy Correll.
Children of Celia Sample and Robert Cecil are:
4 i. Nannie Elizabeth3 Cecil, born 8-Apr-1866. She married John Morgan
Wallace.
5 ii. Frank Cecil.
6 iii. Sam Cecil.
7 iv. Lou Cecil.
8 v. Ella Cecil.
9 vi. Molly Cecil.
10 vii. Maggie Cecil.
11 viii. Tom Cecil.
3. Lucinda Catherine2 Sample (James1) was born Abt. 1828 in VA. She
married James M. Cecil 22-Oct-1845 in Russell Co, VA ?, son of Samuel Cecil
and Rebecca Smith.
Notes for James M. Cecil:
from the Swango Papers available from salt Lake City and 1860 census of
Morgan Co. Ky this is probably the right James F. (Frank).
Hazel Green Cemetery
Rosa B. Cecil (Rosa Belle Swango, dau. of Harry Swango) Oct. 28,
1855-Nov. 19, 1932
J. Frank Cecil, Apr. 22, 1853-Feb. 17, 1911
I haven't had a chance to enter this info. yet cuz I just did the 1860
Ky. census.
1860 Morgan Co. Ky
pg. 396
James Cecil 40 Va
Lucinda 32 Va
Charles W. 12 Va.
Margaret E. 10 Va.
James F. 7 Va.
Anna 4 Va.
Samuel 2 Ky
William R. 5/12 Ky
In 1850 they are in Taz. Co. Va.
Hope this is the right one. Donna Van Zandt
Children of Lucinda Sample and James Cecil are:
12 i. Female3 Cecil, born Abt. 1846. She married Floyd Clark Bef. 1860.
13 ii. Charles W. Cecil, born Abt. 1848.
14 iii. Margaret E. Cecil, born Abt. 1850.
15 iv. James Frank Cecil, born 22-Apr-1853 in VA; died 17-Feb-1911 in KY.
He married Rosa Belle Swango.
16 v. Anna Cecil, born Abt. 1856 in VA.
17 vi. Samuel Cecil, born Abt. 1858 in KY.
18 vii. William R. Cecil, born Abt. 1860 in KY.
19 viii. J. B. Cecil, born Aft. 1860.
Melissa
From: Paul and Dorothy Tobler <tobler(a)hctc.net>
Randy:
Some observations here:
There is a Wm Cecil that married Rachel Ball and they had a son name of
Philip Cecil b. 7 jul 1792 Frederick Co., MD died 3 May 1861 in Davidson
Co., North Carolina. Seems that Philip CECIL md a Rachel CECIL ??? They
had issue: Oliver G. CECIL b. 6 Mar 1827 in NC Died 30 Apr 1892 Davidson
Co.,
NC. They had at least one child named Samuel Alexander CECIL b. 23 Oct
1851 who died 12 Oct 1934 still in Davidson Co., N.C.
The Wm CECIL b. 1730 in New Scotland 100, P.G., MD who died 1807-08 buried
Comus, Frederick, MD married Elizabeth (who??) do you feel he md Elizabeth
WHITTEN/WITTEN/WHITON and if so how do we know this?????
I simply have never known of last name of this Elizabeth.
To continue:
Of Wm CECIL born 1730 died 1807 and Elizabeth ????
Mary CECIL b. 1753 Frederick, MD died 1816 Randolph, N.C. and buried there.
Mary md William BALL but don't know where he died or when.
George CECIL sibling of Mary b. 1756 MD died Randolph, N.C.
md Elizabeth LINTON died unknown place and time.
Philip CECIL sibling of both b. 1762 MD died Randolph, N.C.
md Rachel ??? also.
issue here was Philip CECIL brother Wm CECIL both died in "Beallsville,
Montgomery Co.,MD. This Philip appears to have md a Rachel S. ???? who also
died same place.
===========
I find it very interesting but have not been able to make a lot of sense out
of it.
The other siblings all appear to have stayed in "Comus, Montgomery Co., MD
which feel is perhaps near Cecil Co., MD or Frederick Co., MD present day.
++++++++++++++
Publish these thoughts if you wish, but feel directed to you. Paul
+++++++++
At 10:31 PM 1/19/99 -0500, you wrote:
>I have a William CECIL (d.c.1808) who married Rachel BALL, but he was born
>c.1755. This William was the son of William CECIL (1728-1807) and
>Elizabeth WITTEN.
>
> - Randy Jones
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul and Dorothy Tobler <tobler(a)hctc.net>
>To: Randy Jones <rjones(a)charweb.org>
>Date: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 8:31 PM
>Subject: Re: William Cecil
>
>
>>Hi!
>>
>>Am confused here as follows:
>>
>>Have
>>
>>1st choice:Wm CECIL (Cissell) born 1724-1730 s/o Luke CECIL and Thomasin
>>HAYDEN
>>2nd choice:Wm CECIL receiving 1 Stirling piece from gdfather's will
>> born c 1733 s/o Wm born 1712 and named next of kin by Mary wife of
>> Thomas UNDERWOOD.
>>3rd choice: Wm B. CECIL b. 1730-32 died 1808 md Elizabeth ? in 1754
>>
>>So who is the Wm CECIL b. 17323, and died c 1808 that had wife named Rachel
>??
>>
>> Confused as usual, Paul
>>===================================
>>
>>At 04:57 PM 1/19/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>>From: Donna Van Zandt <donavan(a)netins.net>
>>>
>>>
>>>Descendants of William Cecil
>>>
>>>
>>>Generation No. 1
>>>
>>> 1. William3 Cecil (John2, William1)1,2 was born Abt. 17323, and died Abt.
>>>1808. He married Rachel ??.
>>>
>>>Notes for William Cecil:
>>>
>>>
>>>The Cecil Family of Maryland by Walter V. Ball pg. 23
>>>Will Bk GMR-B, No. 1, Fol. 384
>>>
>>>"To my loving wife Rachel Cecil all of my estate, real and personal, that
>>I am
>>>possessed of, or otherwise entitled to, and I appoint my loving wife,
>>Rachel, my
>>>sole executrix." Signed by (X) mark. Proved June 1, 1808. It would
>>appear from
>>>this will that William Cecil had no children. WVB
>>>
>>>(This is one to check out for that old William in Chester Co. Pa.)
>>>
>>>
>>>Endnotes
>>>
>>>1. Early Families of Southern Maryland Volume I by Elise Greenup Jourdan,
>>18.
>>>2. The Cecil Family of Maryland by Walter V. Ball.
>>>3. Early Families of Southern Maryland Volume I by Elise Greenup Jourdan,
>>18.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Stephanie Cecil wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all.
>>>> >From all of you I've received a great deal of information on the
>>descendants
>>>> of Samuel Witten and Rebecca White Cecil [my husband's ancestors] but
>>only a
>>>> little of his brother Sabrett Sollars and Mary Beale Cecil's
>descendants.
>>>> And I have nothing at all for the other brothers,
>>Zephaniah[c.1719-aft1769],
>>>> Thomas[c.1725-bef4/1801],
>>>> William[c.1732-abt 1808] and James[1734-1801] and Jane Thomas.[One child
>>>> only for them] Are these other lines not as prolific or as well
>>>> researched or have I just not seen the postings?
>>>> Also Dorothy was looking for info on a Samual[Samuel?] Cecil m. Kizzie
>>>> Thomas abt 1903 --had children Sally Jane,1903-1919 and Ezekiel, b. 1905
>>>> Scott Co TN.
>>>> Does someone know who his father was? Something about this sort of
>>rang a
>>>> bell.
>>>> Thanks. Steph stephaxi(a)mindspring.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Please visit our home page. It will always be under construction. Our
>>latest addition is the World War II Memorial to the lost 52 Submarines and
>>their men.
>>
>>http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/3778/index.html
>>
>
>
>
Please visit our home page. It will always be under construction. Our
latest addition is the World War II Memorial to the lost 52 Submarines and
their men.
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/3778/index.html
From: Sammie Witten <SamWitten(a)worldnet.att.net>
> No, this Anne was b.c.1700.
>
> On the otherhand, if James is her father, what leads you to believe he was
> the son of William CECIL.
>
> - Randy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sammie Witten <SamWitten(a)worldnet.att.net>
> To: Randy Jones <rjones(a)charweb.org>
> Date: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 1:49 PM
> Subject: Re: Ann Cecil who married Thomas Witten, Jr. (fwd)
>
> >Randy Jones wrote:
> >>
> >> From: Don & Melissa Alexander <mada(a)cmc.net>
> >>
> >> I have obviously been asleep. Who was the grandfather of the Ann Cecil
> who
> >> married Thomas Witten, Jr? I have her father as James and mother
> Elizabeth
> >> ?-but I have never tied James to parents.
> >> Melissa
> >If the Thomas Witten (Jr) is the one that married Elizabeth (Ann) then
> >her grandfather was William Cecil. If the Ann Cecil in question b 15
> >mar 1720 in Maryland then William is her Grandfather no known name for
> >her mother as of this date. Sam Witten
> >
Considering I had not been to sleep for about 36 hrs. It is a wonder
that I know who I am. William Cecil b 1666/7 as far as I have been
able to find out was married but to whom I haven't a clue. It could be
that the Catholic Cecils in MD may be part of the Big Picture ( Been
watching to much impeachment stuff) and their line I have not tried to
follow.
Sam
Candy, I too found the notation in notes that this Ann Cecil b c 1692, was
the daughter of a James Cecil and Elizabeth unknown, and that she had a
brother James, who would have been b c 1680-1800+. Any more thoughts on who
her brother could have been-let alone her father.
Melissa Thompson Alexander
www.familytreemaker.com/users/a/l/e/Melissa-T-Alexander/
listowner: CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com; KRUTSINGER-L(a)rootsweb.com
Edmonds, WA USA
Randy Jones wrote:
>
> From: Wbm91837(a)aol.com
>
> As I noted earlier there is a problem here (1) James Timothy Cecil (1805-1871)
> is the son of Samuel Cecil and Catherine Peavyhouse and grandson of Benjamin
> Sollers Cecil and Priscilla Boyleston. Ezekiel is not in the list of 16
> children I have for James Timothy Cecil. Ezekiel Cecil is a half brother of
> James Timothy Cecil and a son of Samuel Cecil and Jame Chrisman,
> Walt
>
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Hello Walt,
Do you have any information on the descendants of Henry Barton Cecil, b.
17 Feb 1888, s/o Beaty Cecil and Polly Elmira Buttram. Based on the
above I believe this is your line.
Milton Jones >skamp(a)earthlink.net
Thanks to Pat for sending this article by Michael John Neill.
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To: PSRoots-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Boolean searches explained...
This article by Michael John Neill was in the Ancestry Daily News with a
note "Please feel free to circulate this newsletter to other genealogy
enthusiasts!" Some great ideas on how to find those elusive ancestors....
"SEARCHING FOR PETER BIEGER'S PICKLED PEPPER WEB PAGE: USING BOOLEAN
SEARCHES
TO LOCATE GENEALOGICAL INFORMATION"
by Michael John Neill
======================================================
Note: Readers unfamiliar with the basics of Boolean operators (using "ands"
and "ors") should reference the article which provides a basic overview of
these terms and their uses in Tuesday's edition of the Ancestry Daily News.
It is available online at:
http://www.ancestry.com/dailynews/01_19_99.htm
************************************************************
The Internet contains a vast amount of information. One significant
difficulty is locating web sites that might be useful in researching a
specific genealogical problem. Lists of links are one way to deal with this
problem.
However, they have several drawbacks:
1) The links might be outdated.
2) I must understand the list's organizational structure.
3) The list might not be complete or contain the site I want or need.
4) The list of links will not include EVERY surname that appears on a given
web page or site.
While not to criticize lists of links, these drawbacks limit the
effectiveness with which any set of links can be used. Using search engines
is a much broader approach to finding web pages and is not limited to those
pages that have been categorized on a list of links. However, search engines
have their own limitations, including:
1) They don't contain every page on the Internet.
2) They contain hundreds of millions of pages.
3) Frequently, query boards are not searched by search engines.
4) Online databases are not searched by use of search engines.
5) I might have wrong information that hinders my ability to locate the page
I need, including:
a) Incorrect spelling of surname
b) Incorrect location(s)
c) Incorrect dates of vital events
Some of these limitations can be hurdled more easily than others. It should
be remembered that not every page containing genealogical information is
included in the search engines.
An extended example will concentrate on a German immigrant, Peter Bieger.
Peter was born in Germany in the 1830s and emigrated to Warsaw, Hancock,
Illinois.
His wife's name was Barbara. As Bieger is not a common name, it might be
best
to begin with a simple search such as
peter AND bieger
This search assumes the web page will contain the spelling of "bieger." This
spelling may be incorrect, or may be one of many variants. Alternate
spellings could be incorporated into the search.
peter AND (bieger OR bickert OR berger OR beger)
All the variant spellings are placed in one parenthesis, replacing the one
spelling of the surname. Alternate spellings are connected with ORs and not
ANDs as one page may not contain all possible surname variants. (It should
be noted that there are other possible spelling variants which are omitted
in the interest of brevity.)
If a search returns too many hits, it may be necessary to refine the search
further (this would be especially true if the names were extremely common).
The search could be refined by using other known information about the
subject, such as Peter's birthplace.
peter AND (bieger OR bickert OR berger OR beger) AND germany
Or the state of Illinois could be used
peter AND (bieger OR bickert OR berger OR beger) AND illinois
There are potential pitfalls to using a location in order to refine the
search.
One is that a web page containing information on Peter might not mention the
word "Germany" or "Illinois." A more serious problem is that the location
may be abbreviated, "Ger" for Germany and "Ill," "Ills.," or "IL" for
Illinois (while Ills. is generally no longer used as an abbreviation for
Illinois, it may appear in the transcription of an original document).
These abbreviations can also be incorporated into the search.
Replacing "Germany" with the broader search of "germany OR ger" yields
peter AND (bieger OR bickert OR berger OR beger) AND (germany OR ger)
Again the parenthesis are added around the last portion as we are replacing
the search for Germany with the broader search of "germany OR ger."
It may be necessary to perform a similar search involving Illinois
peter AND (bieger OR bickert OR berger OR beger) AND (illinois OR ill OR
ills)
A search can also be conducted that combines both locations.
peter AND (bieger OR bickert OR berger OR beger) AND ( (germany OR ger) AND
(illinois OR il) )
Analyzing this search to fully understand it may be in order. We can think
of this search as being conducted in several parts:
~ Searching for Peter
~ Searching for bieger OR bickert OR berger OR beger
~ Searching for germany OR ger
~ Searching for illinois OR il OR ills
The last two searches are grouped together with a parenthesis in the
original search term, which indicates that the entire search in this set of
parenthesis groups two searches [and begins with the second "(" and ends
with the final ")"-referred to as Pot 3]. The way this search is
constructed, we can think of three large pots:
~ Pot 1 is pages that contain Peter
~ Pot 2 is pages that contain bieger OR bickert OR berger OR beger
~ Pot 3 is pages that contain (germany OR ger) AND (illinois OR il)
All three pots are connected with ANDs. This means the only pages that will
appear in the final pot are those pages that appear in Pots 1, 2, and 3.
Pots 1 and 2 are fairly straightforward. A closer look at Pot 3 is in order.
Pot 3 is a more complex search, which can be thought of in two parts. Part 1
locates those pages that contain "Germany" or "ger." Part 2 locates those
pages that contain "illinois" or "il." Parts 1 and 2 are connected with an
AND, which means that only pages that appear in both Part 1 and in Part 2
will appear in the combination, which has been termed Pot 3.
The previous search requires that both Germany and Illinois (or one of the
variant spellings) appear on the web page. It would be reasonable to modify
the search so that only one of the locations needed to be on the page. This
could be done by replacing the final AND with an OR, obtaining:
Peter AND (bieger OR bickert OR berger OR beger) AND ( (germany OR ger) OR
(illinois OR il) )
USING COUNTIES AND OTHER LOCALITIES
A search conducted using just states and countries as the only localities
may still result in a large number of matches, especially if the first and
last names being used are common. Using more specific geographic information
will narrow your search and should only be done if broader searches produce
too many results to search effectively.
The county can be added very simply
peter AND (bieger OR bickert OR berger OR beger) AND hancock
In this case the names are unusual enough that using just the county is not
a problem. However, there is more than one Hancock County in the United
States and this may result in hits outside the area of research. In this
case, a more focused search would be:
peter AND (bieger OR bickert OR berger OR beger) AND ( hancock AND (illinois
OR il) )
VARIANT SPELLINGS
Variant spellings can always be included in your search. If I'm searching
for:
john AND trautvetter
I can replace the search with:
john AND (trautvetter OR troutfetter OR trautfetter OR trantvetter)
Including variant spellings is easy. Replace the original word with a set of
parenthesis that contains variant spellings connected with OR. Don't use AND
or else it will require all the variant spellings to be on the same page.
Nicknames present a similar problem to alternate spellings and location
abbreviations. They can be dealt with in a similar manner.
A search for:
elizabeth AND rampley
can be more effectively entered as:
(elizabeth OR betsy OR beth OR eliza) AND rampley
Including variant spellings is easy. Replace the original word with a set of
parenthesis that contains variant spellings connected with OR. Don't use
AND or else it will require all the variant spellings to be on the same
page.
WHY NOT USE GENEALOGY?
You can use the word "genealogy" as a part of your search (by adding "AND
genealogy") to your search phrase. However, not all pages that have
genealogical information contain the word "genealogy." The word genealogy
can also be misspelled in one of several ways ("geneology" being the most
prevalent).
It might seem easier to just search for "Peter Bieger." However, a search of
this type (where the phrase "Peter Bieger" is searched for) will not catch
references where the word "Peter" is not directly in front of the word
"Bieger." The page will not be returned as a hit if the phrase involving
Peter Bieger appears as "Bieger, Peter" (as it might in an index); as Peter
middle name Bieger (as it might if someone knows his middle name); or as a
phrase similar to "the first Bieger ancestor was named Peter." Chances are
you do not want to miss those references.
PROXIMITY OPERATORS
Some search engines allow the use of the NEAR operator in addition to ANDs
and ORs. NEAR functions similarly to an AND, but the difference is that the
words on either side of the NEAR must be within a certain number of words of
each other (a "word" is generally defined to be a series of characters not
separated by a space). Some search engines allow the user to enter a number
to indicate just how "near" and others have only one setting. Users should
read the help pages for the specific search engine they are using to
determine if the near operator can be used (not all sites support it) and
how to specify the word distance. If the distance is not specified, a
default value will be used (generally ten).
The search for Peter Bieger search can be refined using NEAR, as in:
peter NEAR bieger
This search would result in those pages where the words "peter" and "bieger"
are near each other (how "near" depends upon the search engine). The
advantage to using NEAR is that the researcher may not be interested in
those pages where "peter" and "bieger" are 1,200 words apart. Use of NEAR
may be especially desired when searching for common first names or surnames.
If the researcher were looking for web pages on Hancock County, Illinois, a
search could be entered using the NEAR operator as:
hancock NEAR illinois
The following phrases (among others) would be located with this search:
"Hancock County, Illinois"
"Town, Hancock, Illinois"
"In Illinois, Hancock County I think"
"State of Illinois, County of Hancock"
and similar phrases where Hancock and Illinois are within ten words of each
other.
BUT I DON'T WANT TO TYPE ALL THOSE SEARCHES!
You don't have to. Use the power of your computer. Type the searches into
your word processor and then simply cut and paste them from that program
into the search box at search engine's web site. Once you have the searches
entered in your word processor you can use them in whatever search engines
you are using (assuming they support Boolean searches and use of the word
NEAR). I would not enter the same search in fifty search engines. Using two
or three of the major ones should catch the majority of pages. The searches
should be saved so that you can use them again a few weeks or months later
in order to search for pages again. Somewhere in the document that contains
the text of your searches keep the search engine's name and URL and the date
you performed the searches. Remember, it's just as important to track
online research as it is to track offline research.
AVOID OVERLY COMPLEX SEARCHES
It's possible to create searches more complicated than the ones used here.
However, the more complex your search, the greater the chance that it might
not search in exactly the way you think it will (especially if several sets
of nested parenthesis are used). If you aren't certain how the search will
be conducted, you should not use it. Not knowing what you are searching for
is not effective and is not good genealogy.
SEARCH ENGINES
ALTAVISTA (http://www.altavista.digital.com) uses the advanced search
feature which supports Boolean searches.
HOTBOT (http://www.hotbot.com)
METACRAWLER (http://www.metacrawler.com)
Good Luck!
************************************************************
Michael John Neill, is the Course I Coordinator at the Genealogical
Institute of Mid America (GIMA) held annually in Springfield, Illinois, and
is also on the faculty of Carl Sandburg College in Galesburg, Illinois.
Michael is the education columnist for the FGS FORUM and is on the editorial
board of the Illinois State Genealogical Society Quarterly. He conducts
seminars and lectures on a wide variety of genealogical and computer topics
and contributes to several genealogical publications, including Ancestry and
Genealogical Computing.
Thanks Candy. That's a good place to start.
Melissa
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Subject: Re: Ann Cecil who married Thomas Witten, Jr. (fwd)
Hi!
With so much more experienced opinions, I hesitate to add anything, but here
goes: I have the parents of Ann Cecil as James Cecil and Elizabeth, source
"Corys of America Ancestors and Descendants 2nd Ed. Volume I Book 2". I
cannot verify his information, but thought I would pass it on.
Regards, and thanks to all for being such stimulating list-partners,
Candy
Don & Melissa Alexander wrote:
> Yes All, but my notes show that this Thomas Witten, Jr. who married
Eleanor
> Cecil had a mother. His father was a Thomas Witten, his grandfather was a
> Thomas Witten-so to that extent, his father is a Thomas Witten, Jr. Any
> way, his mother is one Ann Cecil, b c 1692, d c 1775. What I do not know,
> nor does, it seems, Paul or Randy or Penny, nor is it addressed by Ball,
is
> who were the parents of this Ann Cecil. Thank you.
> Melissa Thompson Alexander
> www.familytreemaker.com/users/a/l/e/Melissa-T-Alexander/
> listowner: CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com; KRUTSINGER-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Edmonds, WA USA
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> Subject: Re: Ann Cecil who married Thomas Witten, Jr. (fwd)
>
> My notes from Walter V Ball et al have always shown that Thomas Witten Jr.
> married Eleanor Cecil daughter of Samuel Cecil and Rebecca White Cecil.
> Samuel
> was the son of John Cecil and Elizabeth Sollers Cecil.
> Walt
Yes All, but my notes show that this Thomas Witten, Jr. who married Eleanor
Cecil had a mother. His father was a Thomas Witten, his grandfather was a
Thomas Witten-so to that extent, his father is a Thomas Witten, Jr. Any
way, his mother is one Ann Cecil, b c 1692, d c 1775. What I do not know,
nor does, it seems, Paul or Randy or Penny, nor is it addressed by Ball, is
who were the parents of this Ann Cecil. Thank you.
Melissa Thompson Alexander
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Subject: Re: Ann Cecil who married Thomas Witten, Jr. (fwd)
My notes from Walter V Ball et al have always shown that Thomas Witten Jr.
married Eleanor Cecil daughter of Samuel Cecil and Rebecca White Cecil.
Samuel
was the son of John Cecil and Elizabeth Sollers Cecil.
Walt
Folks, understand that the fact that one line was Protestant (Anglican) and
one was Catholic, does not mean they were not closely related, or that there
were not crossover conversions. Research has shown (the first source that
comes quickly to mind is Sir David Cecil's family history "The Cecils of
Hatfield House") that some of the Cecil's had converted to Catholicism prior
to this immigration period, to the point of one Cecil subsidizing his two
brothers in Paris if they would convert and remain Catholics. I think one
killed the other, so much for the conversion, but this Catholic brother may
very well have subsidized other family members to become Catholics as well.
Melissa
RE:
> > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/3778/index.html
One item that I haven't seen is the fact that there were more that two
lines of Cecil's that were immigrants into Maryland and adjacent
colonies. One was Catholic Cecils of St. Mary's County and the
Protestant Cecil's of Prince George's County. William Cecil ancestor of
part of the line that married with the Wittens was a Protestant.
Consider the age that these people lived in. There was verylittle
tolerance for either side of the religious coin. Also, the social level
of the different families, Cecils, Wittens Greenup families were from
planters with small holding and there may have been very litte crossing
of the social status line to the upper class of land holders ie. Lords
Baltimore, Calverts. I beleive that if we keep these divisions in mind,
then our research would be more logical.
At least that is my thought. Sam Witten
==== CECIL Mailing List ====
Cecil list for the surnames Cecil, Cissell, Cisal, Sessell, Sesil, and all
other variation.
Okay folks:
Who is the Silas Cissell who married Martha Jane Mayes? I think this is the
one I have married to Martha Mayo 15 Apr 1844 in Union Co, KY-but I do not
have his parents. Don't have Celestine Cissell. Dorothy, can you help on
the e-mail Barbara forwarded from Leslie E Westerman <les(a)mwr.is>
From: Paul and Dorothy Tobler <tobler(a)hctc.net>
It was Peter Bulkeley, Esq., Major that went to England for treaty with
King regards laws 1676-1679 (s/o Lucian and Edward 'Allen' Bulkeley, Rev.)
Think it shakes out that most research has assumed that Wm Bulkeley was not
the s/o Rowland 'Colton' Bulkeley & Hester but was of the MA group. Think
this is correct and not the way we had it. Cheers, Paul
================================
Descendants of John Bulkeley
Generation No. 1
1. JOHN1 BULKELEY was born Abt. 1390, and died 1450 in Haughton, Cheshire,
England. He married AUDREY TITLEY, FITLEY.
Child of JOHN BULKELEY and AUDREY TITLEY is:
2. i. HUGH2 BULKELEY, b. Abt. 1430; d. Woore, Salop, England.
Generation No. 2
2. HUGH2 BULKELEY (JOHN1) was born Abt. 1430, and died in Woore, Salop,
England. He married HELEN WILBRAHAM Abt. 1450.
Child of HUGH BULKELEY and HELEN WILBRAHAM is:
3. i. HUMPHREY3 BULKELEY, b. Abt. 1465, Woove, England.
Generation No. 3
3. HUMPHREY3 BULKELEY (HUGH2, JOHN1) was born Abt. 1465 in Woove, England.
He married GRISSELL-CECILY MOULTON Abt. 1480.
Child of HUMPHREY BULKELEY and GRISSELL-CECILY MOULTON is:
4. i. WILLIAM 'MOULTON'4 BULKELEY, b. Abt. 1480, Oakley, England; d. 04
March 1570/71, Oakley, Salop., England.
Generation No. 4
4. WILLIAM 'MOULTON'4 BULKELEY (HUMPHREY3, HUGH2, JOHN1) was born Abt.
1480 in Oakley, England, and died 04 March 1570/71 in Oakley, Salop.,
England. He married BEATRICE HILL Abt. 1500.
Child of WILLIAM BULKELEY and BEATRICE HILL is:
5. i. THOMAS 'HILL'5 BULKELEY, b. 1515, Buntingsdale, Shropshire, England;
d. 1591, Woore, Shropshire, England.
Generation No. 5
5. THOMAS 'HILL'5 BULKELEY (WILLIAM 'MOULTON'4, HUMPHREY3, HUGH2, JOHN1)
was born 1515 in Buntingsdale, Shropshire, England, and died 1591 in Woore,
Shropshire, England. He married ELIZABETH RANDEL GROSVENOR 1538 in Woore,
Shropshire, England, daughter of RANDALL GROSVENOR and ANNE CHARLETON.
Children of THOMAS BULKELEY and ELIZABETH GROSVENOR are:
6. i. EDWARD 'GROSVENOR'6 BULKELEY, D.D., REV., b. 1540, England; d.
January 1620/21, O'Dell Bedfordshire England.
7. ii. ROWLAND 'GROSVENOR' BULKELEY, b. 1542, Buntingsdale, Shropshire,
England; d. Aft. 1596.
iii. MARGARET 'GROSVENOR' BULKELEY, b. 1542, Buntingsdale, Shropshire,
England; m. THOMAS SMYTH, Abt. 1560.
iv. ANN 'GROSVENOR' BULKELEY, b. 1544, Buntingsdale, Shropshire, England;
m. WILLIAM GREENE, Abt. 1562.
v. CATHERINE 'GROSVENOR' BULKELEY, b. 1546, Litchfield, Shropshire,
England; d. Aft. 1623; m. GEORGE PARKER-BAKER?, Abt. 1566.
Generation No. 6
6. EDWARD 'GROSVENOR'6 BULKELEY, D.D., REV. (THOMAS 'HILL'5, WILLIAM
'MOULTON'4, HUMPHREY3, HUGH2, JOHN1) was born 1540 in England, and died
January 1620/21 in O'Dell Bedfordshire England. He married OLIVE-ORLIF
IRBY 1566 in Goldington, England.
Children of EDWARD BULKELEY and OLIVE-ORLIF IRBY are:
8. i. DORCAS7 BULKELEY, b. 1577, O'Dell, Bedfordshire, England; d. 21
October 1616.
9. ii. PETER 'IRBY' BULKELEY, M.A., REV., b. 31 January 1581/82, O'Dell,
Bedfordshire, England; d. 09 March 1658/59, Concord, Middlesex, MA.
10. iii. SARAH 'IRBY' BULKELEY, b. Abt. 1583, O'Dell, Bedfordshire,
England?; d. 1611, England.
7. ROWLAND 'GROSVENOR'6 BULKELEY (THOMAS 'HILL'5, WILLIAM 'MOULTON'4,
HUMPHREY3, HUGH2, JOHN1) was born 1542 in Buntingsdale, Shropshire,
England, and died Aft. 1596. He married ELIZABETH BARKER Abt. 1560,
daughter of GEORGE BARKER and UNKNOWN STEVENTON?.
Child of ROWLAND BULKELEY and ELIZABETH BARKER is:
11. i. WILLIAM 'BARKER'7 BULKELEY, b. Abt. 1565.
Generation No. 7
8. DORCAS7 BULKELEY (EDWARD 'GROSVENOR'6, THOMAS 'HILL'5, WILLIAM
'MOULTON'4, HUMPHREY3, HUGH2, JOHN1) was born 1577 in O'Dell, Bedfordshire,
England, and died 21 October 1616. She married ANTHONY INGOLDSBY.
Child of DORCAS BULKELEY and ANTHONY INGOLDSBY is:
i. OLIVE8 INGOLDSBY, b. Abt. 1598.
9. PETER 'IRBY'7 BULKELEY, M.A., REV. (EDWARD 'GROSVENOR'6, THOMAS
'HILL'5, WILLIAM 'MOULTON'4, HUMPHREY3, HUGH2, JOHN1) was born 31 January
1581/82 in O'Dell, Bedfordshire, England, and died 09 March 1658/59 in
Concord, Middlesex, MA. He married (1) JANE-JUNE ALLEN 12 April 1613 in
St. Mary's Church, Goldington, Bedford, ENG, daughter of THOMAS ALLEN and
MARY FAIRCLOTH. He married (2) GRACE CHITIWOOD, CHETWOOD April 1635.
More About PETER 'IRBY' BULKELEY, M.A., REV.:
Immigrated: 1635, Came to American Colonies
More About GRACE CHITIWOOD, CHETWOOD:
Fact 7: 4 children
Children of PETER BULKELEY and JANE-JUNE ALLEN are:
12. i. EDWARD 'ALLEN'8 BULKELEY, REV., b. 12 June 1614, O'Dell,
Bedfordshire, England; d. 02 January 1694/95, Chelmsford, MA (Concord).
ii. DANIEL 'ALLEN' BULKELEY, b. Aft. 1615, O'Dell, Bedfordshire, England;
d. 1648, Fairfield, CT.
iii. GEORGE 'ALLEN' BULKELEY, b. Aft. 1615, O'Dell, Bedfordshire, England;
d. Abt. 1695.
iv. JOHN 'ALLEN' BULKELEY, b. Aft. 1615, O'Dell, Bedfordshire, England.
v. JOSEPH 'ALLEN' BULKELEY, b. Aft. 1615, O'Dell, Bedfordshire, England;
d. Unknown.
vi. MARY 'ALLEN' BULKELEY, b. Aft. 1615, O'Dell, Bedfordshire, England; d.
Abt. 1624.
vii. RICHARD 'ALLEN' BULKELEY, b. Aft. 1615, O'Dell, Bedfordshire,
England; d. Unknown.
viii. ZABEZ 'ALLEN' BULKELEY, b. Aft. 1615, O'Dell, Bedfordshire, England;
d. Unknown.
ix. WILLIAM 'ALLEN' BULKELEY, b. Abt. 1616.
x. THOMAS 'ALLEN' BULKELEY, b. Abt. 1617, O'Dell, Bedfordshire, England;
d. Unknown.
xi. NATHANIEL 'ALLEN' BULKELEY, b. Abt. 1618, O'Dell, Bedfordshire,
England; d. 1628.
13. xii. ELIZABETH 'ALLEN' BULKELEY, b. Bef. 1626, O'Dell, Bedfordshire,
England\Barbados?; d. Unknown.
Children of PETER BULKELEY and GRACE CHITIWOOD are:
xiii. GERSHOM 'CHETWOOD'8 BULKELEY, b. January 1635/36.
xiv. ELEAZER 'CHETWOOD' BULKELEY, b. 1638.
xv. DOROTHY 'CHETWOOD' BULKELEY, b. 02 August 1640.
xvi. PETER 'CHETWOOD' BULKELEY, b. 12 August 1643.
10. SARAH 'IRBY'7 BULKELEY (EDWARD 'GROSVENOR'6, THOMAS 'HILL'5, WILLIAM
'MOULTON'4, HUMPHREY3, HUGH2, JOHN1) was born Abt. 1583 in O'Dell,
Bedfordshire, England?, and died 1611 in England. She married OLIVER ST.
JOHN, SIR Abt. 1600 in England.
Child of SARAH BULKELEY and OLIVER ST. JOHN is:
14. i. ELIZABETH 'BULKELEY'8 ST. JOHN, b. 1605, England; d. 03 March
1670/71, Lynn, MA?.
11. WILLIAM 'BARKER'7 BULKELEY (ROWLAND 'GROSVENOR'6, THOMAS 'HILL'5,
WILLIAM 'MOULTON'4, HUMPHREY3, HUGH2, JOHN1) was born Abt. 1565. He
married MARIE COLTON Abt. 1587, daughter of RICHARD COLTON and .
Child of WILLIAM BULKELEY and MARIE COLTON is:
15. i. ROWLAND 'COLTON'8 BULKELEY, b. Abt. 1590, Plaistow, Essex, England;
d. 1679, Plaistow, Essex, England.
Generation No. 8
12. EDWARD 'ALLEN'8 BULKELEY, REV. (PETER 'IRBY'7, EDWARD 'GROSVENOR'6,
THOMAS 'HILL'5, WILLIAM 'MOULTON'4, HUMPHREY3, HUGH2, JOHN1) was born 12
June 1614 in O'Dell, Bedfordshire, England, and died 02 January 1694/95 in
Chelmsford, MA (Concord). He married LUCIAN 1637 in Concord, MA.
Children of EDWARD BULKELEY and LUCIAN are:
i. ELIZABETH9 BULKELEY, b. 1638; d. 04 September 1693.
16. ii. PETER BULKELEY, ESQ., MAJOR, b. 03 January 1639/40, Concord, MA; d.
24 May 1688, Concord, MA.
iii. JOHN BULKELEY, b. Aft. 1642; d. Abt. 26 February 1654/55, Marshfield,
Plymouth, MA.
iv. MARY BULKELEY, b. 1643-1653; d. 02 December 1700, Chelmsford, MA
(Concord); m. THOMAS CLARKE.
v. JANE BULKELEY, b. 1645; d. 28 April 1706, Concord, MA; m. EPHRAIM FLINT.
13. ELIZABETH 'ALLEN'8 BULKELEY (PETER 'IRBY'7, EDWARD 'GROSVENOR'6,
THOMAS 'HILL'5, WILLIAM 'MOULTON'4, HUMPHREY3, HUGH2, JOHN1) was born Bef.
1626 in O'Dell, Bedfordshire, England\Barbados?, and died Unknown. She
married JOSEPH EMERSON 07 December 1665 in Concord, MA.
More About JOSEPH EMERSON:
Fact 7: Uncle of Ralph Waldo Emerson
Child of ELIZABETH BULKELEY and JOSEPH EMERSON is:
i. EDWARD9 EMERSON, b. 26 April 1670, Malden, MA; d. 09 May 1743, Malden, MA.
14. ELIZABETH 'BULKELEY'8 ST. JOHN (SARAH 'IRBY'7 BULKELEY, EDWARD
'GROSVENOR'6, THOMAS 'HILL'5, WILLIAM 'MOULTON'4, HUMPHREY3, HUGH2, JOHN1)
was born 1605 in England, and died 03 March 1670/71 in Lynn, MA?. She
married SAMUEL WHITING, D.D., REV. 06 August 1629 in England.
Child of ELIZABETH ST. JOHN and SAMUEL WHITING is:
i. SAMUEL 'ST.JOHN'9 WHITING, REV., b. 25 March 1633, England; d. 28
February 1712/13, Billerica; m. DORCAS CHESTER, 12 November 1657.
15. ROWLAND 'COLTON'8 BULKELEY (WILLIAM 'BARKER'7, ROWLAND 'GROSVENOR'6,
THOMAS 'HILL'5, WILLIAM 'MOULTON'4, HUMPHREY3, HUGH2, JOHN1) was born Abt.
1590 in Plaistow, Essex, England, and died 1679 in Plaistow, Essex,
England. He married HESTER Abt. 1610.
Child of ROWLAND BULKELEY and HESTER is:
17. i. WILLIAM9 BULKELEY, b. Abt. 1618, St. George Parish, Barbados, BWI;
d. 1713, Isle of Wight.
Generation No. 9
16. PETER9 BULKELEY, ESQ., MAJOR (EDWARD 'ALLEN'8, PETER 'IRBY'7, EDWARD
'GROSVENOR'6, THOMAS 'HILL'5, WILLIAM 'MOULTON'4, HUMPHREY3, HUGH2, JOHN1)
was born 03 January 1639/40 in Concord, MA, and died 24 May 1688 in
Concord, MA. He married REBECCA WHEELER 16 April 1667 in Concord, MA,
daughter of JOSEPH WHEELER and SARAH GOLDSTONE.
More About PETER BULKELEY, ESQ., MAJOR:
Baptism: 03 November 1641, O'Dell, Bedfordshire, England
Fact 7: 1660, Harvard
Fact 8: 1673-1676, Concord deputy to Gen. Court
Fact 9: 1676-1679, to England for treaty with King regards laws
Children of PETER BULKELEY and REBECCA WHEELER are:
i. JOSEPH10 BULKELEY, CAPT., b. 07 September 1670, Concord, MA; d. 24
September 1748, Concord, MA (Littleton?); m. (1) REBECCA JONES, MINOTT, 19
March 1695/96; m. (2) SILKENCE JEFFREY, 25 May 1713, Concord, MA?.
ii. EDWARD BULKELEY, b. 18 March 1667/68, Concord, MA; d. 18 December
1713, Concord, MA.
iii. JOHN BULKELEY, b. 10 July 1673.
18. iv. REBECCA BULKELEY, b. 24 August 1681, Concord, MA; d. 1747, Concord,
MA.
17. WILLIAM9 BULKELEY (ROWLAND 'COLTON'8, WILLIAM 'BARKER'7, ROWLAND
'GROSVENOR'6, THOMAS 'HILL'5, WILLIAM 'MOULTON'4, HUMPHREY3, HUGH2, JOHN1)
was born Abt. 1618 in St. George Parish, Barbados, BWI, and died 1713 in
Isle of Wight. He married FRANCES Abt. 1635 in Barbados, BWI.
More About WILLIAM BULKELEY:
LDS ID: AFN: 9HV3-MP
Child of WILLIAM BULKELEY and FRANCES is:
19. i. MARY10 BULKELEY, b. 1636, Barbados, BWI; d. Unknown.
Generation No. 10
18. REBECCA10 BULKELEY (PETER9, EDWARD 'ALLEN'8, PETER 'IRBY'7, EDWARD
'GROSVENOR'6, THOMAS 'HILL'5, WILLIAM 'MOULTON'4, HUMPHREY3, HUGH2, JOHN1)
was born 24 August 1681 in Concord, MA, and died 1747 in Concord, MA. She
married JONATHAN 'HOAR' PRESCOTT., DR., JR. 09 July 1701 in Concord, MA,
son of JONATHAN PRESCOTT and ELIZABETH HOAR.
Children of REBECCA BULKELEY and JONATHAN PRESCOTT. are:
i. PETER 'BULKELEY'11 PRESCOTT, b. 17 April 1709.
ii. ABEL 'BULKELEY' PRESCOTT, b. 07 April 1718.
19. MARY10 BULKELEY (WILLIAM9, ROWLAND 'COLTON'8, WILLIAM 'BARKER'7,
ROWLAND 'GROSVENOR'6, THOMAS 'HILL'5, WILLIAM 'MOULTON'4, HUMPHREY3, HUGH2,
JOHN1) was born 1636 in Barbados, BWI, and died Unknown. She married
THOMAS WITTEN, SR., WHITON 31 December 1656 in Christ Church, Barbados,
BWI, son of THOMAS WITTEN, WHITTON.
More About THOMAS WITTEN, SR., WHITON:
Baptism: 12 June 1670, Mixbury, Oxford, Eng.
Fact 7: Roman Catholic
Fact 8: may have had Bulkeley, b. 26 Jun 1675; William b. 26 Sep 1678; and
Fact 9: George b. 9 Oct 1683 with surname of (Witter)
LDS ID: !ANCESTRAL FILE: 9HV3-KC
Immigrated: 1632, England to Maryland
Child of MARY BULKELEY and THOMAS WITTEN is:
20. i. THOMAS11 WITTEN, JR., WHITON, b. 09 February 1671/72, England; d.
Abt. 1740, Prince George Co., MD.
Generation No. 11
20. THOMAS11 WITTEN, JR., WHITON (MARY10 BULKELEY, WILLIAM9, ROWLAND
'COLTON'8, WILLIAM 'BARKER'7, ROWLAND 'GROSVENOR'6, THOMAS 'HILL'5, WILLIAM
'MOULTON'4, HUMPHREY3, HUGH2, JOHN1) was born 09 February 1671/72 in
England, and died Abt. 1740 in Prince George Co., MD. He married ANN CECIL
1711-1712 in Barbados, daughter of JAMES CECIL and ELIZABETH.
More About THOMAS WITTEN, JR., WHITON:
LDS ID: AFN:9HV3-H1 ver 4.01.
More About ANN CECIL:
LDS ID: AFN: 9HV3-J6 vers 4.01
Moved: fm MD to Barbados with family bef age 15
Children of THOMAS WITTEN and ANN CECIL are:
i. JOHN 'CECIL'12 WITTEN, WHITTEN, b. 1712, Probably Barbados; d.
1760-1780, Bedford Co., VA; m. RUTH MERRILL, Abt. 1734, Maryland.
More About JOHN 'CECIL' WITTEN, WHITTEN:
Lived location: Peaks of Otter, Bedford Co., VA
Moved: From MD to Bedford Co., VA toTazewell to Bedford
ii. ROBERT 'CECIL' WITTEN, b. Abt. 1717, Prince George Co., MD, ?; d.
Unknown.
iii. THOMAS J. 'CECIL' WITTEN, SR., WHITTON, b. 10 September 1719, Prince
George, MD; d. 1794, Tazewell, Montgomery Co., VA; m. ELIZABETH 'GITTINGS'
CECIL, 1742, Prince George Co., MD.
More About THOMAS J. 'CECIL' WITTEN, SR., WHITTON:
Burial: Across the road from his home
Lived location: Tazewell, VA
More About ELIZABETH 'GITTINGS' CECIL:
Baptism: New Scotland 100, Prince George's, MD
Fact 7: May have been Adopted child
Fact 8: By John Cecil b. 24 December 1689 and his wife Elizabeth Sollars
Lived location: Tazewell, VA
Marriage Notes for THOMAS WITTEN and ELIZABETH CECIL:
Note:
WFT Vol 7 #684 probably Prince George, MD
iv. WILLIAM 'CECIL' WITTEN, SR., b. 1724, Prince George Co., MD; d. Unknown.
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From: Sammie Witten <SamWitten(a)worldnet.att.net>
> From: Donna Van Zandt <donavan(a)netins.net>
>
> Certainly not confused as usual. I have seen your homepage and I "zone out" after
> 10 generations or so. How you keep all that straight is amazing. I'm not certain
> which one you mentioned is the correct one. William I listed was the son of John
> and Elizabeth Sollers Cecil. Sources would be Walter V. Ball pg. 23; Greenup,
> Witten, Cecil by EGJ pg. 273; Early Families of Southern Maryland Vol. I by EGJ
> who goes on to qualify it by saying with so little known of this family we cannot
> be certain this is the correct William. As most of you know I am usually inclined
> to go with WVB unless proven to the contrary. His work with Maryland Cecil
> families was so accurate. Donna
>
>
>
> Randy Jones wrote:
>
> > From: Paul and Dorothy Tobler <tobler(a)hctc.net>
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > Am confused here as follows:
> >
> > Have
> >
> > 1st choice:Wm CECIL (Cissell) born 1724-1730 s/o Luke CECIL and Thomasin
> > HAYDEN
> > 2nd choice:Wm CECIL receiving 1 Stirling piece from gdfather's will
> > born c 1733 s/o Wm born 1712 and named next of kin by Mary wife of
> > Thomas UNDERWOOD.
> > 3rd choice: Wm B. CECIL b. 1730-32 died 1808 md Elizabeth ? in 1754
> >
> > So who is the Wm CECIL b. 17323, and died c 1808 that had wife named Rachel ??
> >
> > Confused as usual, Paul
> > ===================================
> >
> > At 04:57 PM 1/19/99 -0500, you wrote:
> > >From: Donna Van Zandt <donavan(a)netins.net>
> > >
> > >
> > >Descendants of William Cecil
> > >
> > >
> > >Generation No. 1
> > >
> > > 1. William3 Cecil (John2, William1)1,2 was born Abt. 17323, and died Abt.
> > >1808. He married Rachel ??.
> > >
> > >Notes for William Cecil:
> > >
> > >
> > >The Cecil Family of Maryland by Walter V. Ball pg. 23
> > >Will Bk GMR-B, No. 1, Fol. 384
> > >
> > >"To my loving wife Rachel Cecil all of my estate, real and personal, that
> > I am
> > >possessed of, or otherwise entitled to, and I appoint my loving wife,
> > Rachel, my
> > >sole executrix." Signed by (X) mark. Proved June 1, 1808. It would
> > appear from
> > >this will that William Cecil had no children. WVB
> > >
> > >(This is one to check out for that old William in Chester Co. Pa.)
> > >
> > >
> > >Endnotes
> > >
> > >1. Early Families of Southern Maryland Volume I by Elise Greenup Jourdan,
> > 18.
> > >2. The Cecil Family of Maryland by Walter V. Ball.
> > >3. Early Families of Southern Maryland Volume I by Elise Greenup Jourdan,
> > 18.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Stephanie Cecil wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hello all.
> > >> >From all of you I've received a great deal of information on the
> > descendants
> > >> of Samuel Witten and Rebecca White Cecil [my husband's ancestors] but
> > only a
> > >> little of his brother Sabrett Sollars and Mary Beale Cecil's descendants.
> > >> And I have nothing at all for the other brothers,
> > Zephaniah[c.1719-aft1769],
> > >> Thomas[c.1725-bef4/1801],
> > >> William[c.1732-abt 1808] and James[1734-1801] and Jane Thomas.[One child
> > >> only for them] Are these other lines not as prolific or as well
> > >> researched or have I just not seen the postings?
> > >> Also Dorothy was looking for info on a Samual[Samuel?] Cecil m. Kizzie
> > >> Thomas abt 1903 --had children Sally Jane,1903-1919 and Ezekiel, b. 1905
> > >> Scott Co TN.
> > >> Does someone know who his father was? Something about this sort of
> > rang a
> > >> bell.
> > >> Thanks. Steph stephaxi(a)mindspring.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > their men.
> >
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One item that I haven't seen is the fact that there were more that two
lines of Cecil's that were immigrants into Maryland and adjacent
colonies. One was Catholic Cecils of St. Mary's County and the
Protestant Cecil's of Prince George's County. William Cecil ancestor of
part of the line that married with the Wittens was a Protestant.
Consider the age that these people lived in. There was verylittle
tolerance for either side of the religious coin. Also, the social level
of the different families, Cecils, Wittens Greenup families were from
planters with small holding and there may have been very litte crossing
of the social status line to the upper class of land holders ie. Lords
Baltimore, Calverts. I beleive that if we keep these divisions in mind,
then our research would be more logical.
At least that is my thought. Sam Witten
From: MLarson101(a)aol.com
Paul,
Thanks for pointing out my dumb mistake! Jeez! Rebecca White CECIL m. James
B. WITTEN and Rachel WHITE m. James Wilkerson McKinder WITTEN s/o James B. and
Rebecca. No wonder I can't keep it straight! That's what I get for trying to
type from memory and not referring to my notes again.
Now, will send a message to the group again to try and straighten out the mess
I created!
Melinda
From: Paul and Dorothy Tobler <tobler(a)hctc.net>
If Mary Bulkeley b. 1636 BWI was d/o Wm Bulkeley and he was s/o Rev. Peter
'Allen' Bulkeley (came to colonies 1635); s/o Edward Bulkeley, D.D.,
Rev.then I have got us back to Sir Alexander Standish b. 1400 and beyond to
Charlemagne of 742 A.D. See below. Cheers, Paul
PS: Will need lots of grooming and will need help.
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Descendants of Peter Bulkeley, M.A., Rev.
Generation No. 1
1. PETER5 BULKELEY, M.A., REV. (EDWARD4, THOMAS3, WILLIAM2, HUMPHREY1)1,2
was born 31 January 1581/82 in O'Dell, Bedfordshire, England3, and died 09
March 1658/59 in Concord, Middlesex, MA3. He married (1) JANE-JUNE ALLEN
12 April 1613 in St. Mary's Church, Goldington, Bedford, ENG3, daughter of
THOMAS ALLEN and MARY FAIRCLOTH. He married (2) GRACE CHITIWOOD4 Unknown.
More About PETER BULKELEY, M.A., REV.:
Immigrated: 1635, Came to American Colonies5
More About GRACE CHITIWOOD:
Fact 7: 4 children6
Children of PETER BULKELEY and JANE-JUNE ALLEN are:
2. i. EDWARD 'ALLEN'6 BULKELEY, REV., b. 12 June 1614, O'Dell,
Bedfordshire, England; d. 02 January 1694/95, Chelmsford, MA (Concord).
ii. DANIEL 'ALLEN' BULKELEY6, b. Aft. 1615, O'Dell, Bedfordshire, England;
d. 1648, Fairfield, CT6.
iii. GEORGE 'ALLEN' BULKELEY6, b. Aft. 1615, O'Dell, Bedfordshire,
England; d. Abt. 16956.
iv. JOHN 'ALLEN' BULKELEY6, b. Aft. 1615, O'Dell, Bedfordshire, England7.
v. JOSEPH 'ALLEN' BULKELEY8, b. Aft. 1615, O'Dell, Bedfordshire, England;
d. Unknown.
vi. MARY 'ALLEN' BULKELEY8, b. Aft. 1615, O'Dell, Bedfordshire, England;
d. Abt. 16248.
vii. RICHARD 'ALLEN' BULKELEY8, b. Aft. 1615, O'Dell, Bedfordshire,
England9; d. Unknown.
viii. ZABEZ 'ALLEN' BULKELEY10, b. Aft. 1615, O'Dell, Bedfordshire,
England10; d. Unknown.
ix. THOMAS 'ALLEN' BULKELEY10, b. Abt. 1617, O'Dell, Bedfordshire,
England; d. Unknown.
x. NATHANIEL 'ALLEN' BULKELEY10, b. Abt. 1618, O'Dell, Bedfordshire,
England; d. 1628.
3. xi. WILLIAM 'ALLEN' BULKELEY, b. Abt. 1618, St. George Parish, Barbados,
BWI; d. Unknown.
4. xii. ELIZABETH 'ALLEN' BULKELEY, b. Bef. 1626, O'Dell, Bedfordshire,
England\Barbados?; d. Unknown.
Generation No. 2
2. EDWARD 'ALLEN'6 BULKELEY, REV. (PETER5, EDWARD4, THOMAS3, WILLIAM2,
HUMPHREY1)11 was born 12 June 1614 in O'Dell, Bedfordshire, England12,13,
and died 02 January 1694/95 in Chelmsford, MA (Concord)14. He married
LUCIAN15 1637 in Concord, MA16.
Children of EDWARD BULKELEY and LUCIAN are:
i. ELIZABETH7 BULKELEY17, b. 163818; d. 04 September 169318.
ii. PETER BULKELEY, ESQ., MAJOR19,20, b. 03 January 1639/40, Concord,
MA21; d. 24 May 1688, Concord, MA21; m. REBECCA WHEELER22, 16 April 1667,
Concord, MA23,24.
More About PETER BULKELEY, ESQ., MAJOR:
Fact 7: 1660, Harvard
Fact 8: 1673-1676, Concord deputy to Gen. Court
Fact 9: 1676-1679, to England for treaty with King regards laws25
iii. JOHN BULKELEY26, b. Aft. 164227; d. Abt. 26 February 1654/55,
Marshfield, Plymouth, MA28.
iv. MARY BULKELEY29, b. 1643, Karen has 1653.
v. JANE BULKELEY29, b. 164530; d. 28 April 1706, Concord, MA30; m. EPHRAIM
FLINT31.
3. WILLIAM 'ALLEN'6 BULKELEY (PETER5, EDWARD4, THOMAS3, WILLIAM2,
HUMPHREY1)32 was born Abt. 1618 in St. George Parish, Barbados,
BWI33,34,35,36, and died Unknown. He married FRANCES37 Abt. 1635 in
Barbados, BWI.
More About WILLIAM 'ALLEN' BULKELEY:
LDS ID: AFN: 9HV3-MP
Child of WILLIAM BULKELEY and FRANCES is:
i. MARY7 BULKELEY38, b. 1636, Barbados, BWI39; d. Unknown; m. THOMAS
WITTEN, SR., WHITON, 31 December 1656, Christ Church, Barbados, BWI39.
More About THOMAS WITTEN, SR., WHITON:
Baptism: 12 June 1670, Mixbury, Oxford, Eng.40
Fact 7: Roman Catholic40
Fact 8: may have had Bulkeley, b. 26 Jun 1675; William b. 26 Sep 1678; and
Fact 9: George b. 9 Oct 1683 with surname of (Witter)41
LDS ID: !ANCESTRAL FILE: 9HV3-KC
Immigrated: 1632, England to Maryland
4. ELIZABETH 'ALLEN'6 BULKELEY (PETER5, EDWARD4, THOMAS3, WILLIAM2,
HUMPHREY1)42 was born Bef. 1626 in O'Dell, Bedfordshire, England\Barbados?,
and died Unknown. She married JOSEPH EMERSON42 07 December 1665 in
Concord, MA42.
More About JOSEPH EMERSON:
Fact 7: Uncle of Ralph Waldo Emerson42
Child of ELIZABETH BULKELEY and JOSEPH EMERSON is:
i. EDWARD7 EMERSON, b. 26 April 1670, Malden, MA42; d. 09 May 1743,
Malden, MA42.
Endnotes
1. Karen Salisbury email <ksalisbury(a)ccsinc.com>.
2. Colonial Dames, Ancestral Records and Portraits, Grafton Press 1910.
3. FTM site of Julia Cristina RICE.
4. Ancestral Records & Portraits, Grafton Press 1910.
5. Colonial Dames, Ancestral Records and Portraits, Grafton Press 1910.
6. Aldermans in America, LDS,582 fm Karen Salisbury.
7. Karen Salisbury email <ksalisbury(a)ccsinc.com>.
8. Aldermans in America, LDS,582 fm Karen Salisbury.
9. Karen Salisbury email <ksalisbury(a)ccsinc.com>.
10. Aldermans in America, LDS,582 fm Karen Salisbury.
11. Karen Salisbury email <ksalisbury(a)ccsinc.com>.
12. Aldermans in America, LDS,582 fm Karen Salisbury.
13. Vol 4 WFT 1841.
14. Aldermans in America, LDS,582 fm Karen Salisbury.
15. Vol 4 WFT 1841.
16. Aldermans in America, LDS,582 fm Karen Salisbury.
17. Karen Salisbury email <ksalisbury(a)ccsinc.com>.
18. Aldermans in America, LDS,582 fm Karen Salisbury.
19. Karen Salisbury email <ksalisbury(a)ccsinc.com>.
20. Vol 4 WFT 1841.
21. Aldermans in America, LDS,582 fm Karen Salisbury.
22. Vol 4 WFT 1841.
23. Aldermans in America, LDS,582 fm Karen Salisbury.
24. Vol 4 WFT 1841.
25. Vol 4 WFT 1882.
26. Karen Salisbury email <ksalisbury(a)ccsinc.com>.
27. Aldermans in America, LDS,582 fm Karen Salisbury.
28. Vol 4 WFT 1882.
29. Karen Salisbury email <ksalisbury(a)ccsinc.com>.
30. Aldermans in America, LDS,582 fm Karen Salisbury.
31. Karen Salisbury email <ksalisbury(a)ccsinc.com>.
32. Vol 5 WFT 203.
33. WFT Vol 7 #684WFT Vol 5 #202 by Broderbund
34. FTM site of Julia Cristina RICE.
35. Vol 5 WFT 203.
36. Karen Salisbury email <ksalisbury(a)ccsinc.com>.
37. Elise Jourdan in Early Families of Southern MD.
38. Karen Salisbury email <ksalisbury(a)ccsinc.com>.
39. WFT Vol 7 #684
40. Vol 7 WFT 684.
41. Elise Jourdan in Early Families of Southern MD.
42. Aldermans in America, LDS,582 fm Karen Salisbury.
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In a message dated 1/19/99 8:42:48 AM Pacific Standard Time,
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<<
Think you have to agree on this one and later, hopefully much later you
will be able to ask St. Peter when and if you get there. For now I think
this is it. Have felt this was true for long time. Affectionately, Paul
>>
Hi Paul: I'll add it to my list! Old Pete will have to direct me to a lot
of folks because I have LOTS and LOTS of questions. But I think that I'll
start with Old William himself...
Hope all is well! Penny
<<
Ihave seen some cecil children who were made wards of a higgenbottom in
md.
could someone pleasr explain dorothy
>>
Hi Dorothy: don't know anything about wardship. However, it would not have
been surprising!
Dorinda Cecil, b. Dec 13, 1814, m. S. W. Higginbotham in 1837. They had at
least three children: John, Samuel and James, all born in Tazwell County, CA
Thomas Zachariah Cecil, b. Feb 9, 1850, m. Hannah Higginbotham on Nov 10,
1875. They had children: Estill, Flavius, Joe A. and Lettie. Also in
Tazewell, VA.
Hope this helps.
Mary D. McCauley, DVM wrote:
>
> Is there any kind-hearted soul on the Cecil list who could photocopy and
> mail me a copy of Walter V. Ball's book on the Cecil family for a
> reasonable cost? Please email me privately if you can help.
>
> TIA,
>
> Mary McCauley
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Hi Mary,
I was told the main library in Ft Wayne, IN will copy the book. A few
years back the cost was about $30.00. Don't know what it would cost
today.
Milton Jones, skamp @earthlink.net