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Enclosed is a list of Wallace children of Nancy(Nannie) Elizabeth Cecil you
requested a while back. Sorry for the delay.
John W. Anderson
Descendants of Nannie Elizabeth Cecil
Generation No. 1
1. NANNIE ELIZABETH6 CECIL (ROBERT M.5, SAMUEL W.4, JAMES3, SAMUEL WITTEN2,
JOHN1) was born April.08.1866 in Tazewell County, Virginia, and died
March.27.1948 in Lexington, Kentucky Hillcrest Cemetary. She married JOHN
MORGAN WALLACE, son of WILLIAM WALLACE and MARTHA LINKOUS.
Notes for JOHN MORGAN WALLACE:
Moved from Clinch River Area in Virginia about 1882
Sisters were Mrs. Lizzie (Wallace) Nickels and Mrs. Minnie (Wallace) Pieratt
John And Nannie moved from Virginia together and married shortly thereafter
All children supposedly born in Wolfe county near Hazel Green
Children of NANNIE CECIL and JOHN WALLACE are:
2. i. WILLIAM FLOYD7 WALLACE, b. January.23.1886, Wolf County, Kentucky; d.
November.11.1962, Lexington, Kentucky Hillcrest Cemetary.
3. ii. JAMES FRANKLIN WALLACE, b. November.27.1884, Morgan County, Kentucky;
d. February.01.1936, Clark County, Kentucky.
iii. BRACK WALLACE, b. July.28.1887.
iv. BERTHA WALLACE, b. Unknown.
v. ELMER WALLACE, b. November.13.1889.
vi. EDGAR WALLACE, b. March.20.1891.
vii. VERT WALLACE, b. September.10.1894.
4. viii. THOMAS ALBERT WALLACE, b. December.31.1898; d. 1983, Fayette
County.
ix. MATTIE WALLACE, b. August.10.1900.
x. OLA WALLACE, b. December.23.1901.
xi. JOHN WALLACE, b. November.25.1903.
xii. ROBERT WALLACE, b. November.25.1903.
xiii. EUNICE WALLACE, b. November.24.1907.
Here are some comments on the Oxenbridge Line and Sir Thomas Cecil m Susan
Oxenbridge.
Melissa
-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Channing [mailto:AChanning@compuserve.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 1998 10:11 AM
To: INTERNET:mada@cmc.net
Subject: RE: Oxenbridge
Melissa,
Thanks for the Oxenbridge pedigree, which, as yet, I have only given it a
quick scan.
Re Jurer, as it happens I came across "Jurat" today shown after a persons
name. From the Shorter OED, this has the meaning as someone sitting on a
jury then "A municipal officer (esp. of the Cinque ports) holding a position
similar to that of an Alderman 1464". One of the Cinque ports is Hastings.
I am not to keen on the suggested connection Thomas Cecil (1542-1622/3) 2nd
Lord Burghley and 1st Earl Exeter > Thomas (1578-) as being the Thomas Cecil
engraver and map maker and shown as dying 1664 (can't remember the exact
date). This makes him pretty old, and I have the Thomas (1578-) as member
of the merchant tailors guild rather than anything to do with engraving.
However I think it was a condition of trading in London to be a member of
one of the recognized guilds and I don't think it always signifies the
persons trade, although I think he would have had to have been apprenticed
to a merchant tailor.
I collect Browne family names so I was interested to see the John Cissell
who m dau, of Peter Browne and the other Brownes who were of John Cissell.
I did find a Peter Browne who was on the Mayflower, but no definite link to
this guy. I tend to collect Brownes in England, but do have some in the New
World. The New World ones nearly always drop the final "e".
Below are some extract from Hasted's "History of Kent" which mention
Oxenbridge, but I have not yet tried to tie them in. There are probably
other ref to Oxenbridge in this mammoth work for which I have not taken
notes.
regards Adrian
Adrian (Surrey, UK) AChanning(a)CompuServe.Com
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Heppington is a manor and seat, at the south-west boundary of this parish,
[Nackington, Kent] which in the reign of king HenryÿII. was possessed by a
family of the name of Delce; for in the 29th year of it William de Delce
accounted at the exchequer for the tenure of this land of Hevington; [Vol x
corrections, Hebington, See Madox's Exchequer, p. 212] but this name was
extinct here before the reign of Edward III. in which it was come into the
possession of William Talbot, whose heirs possessed it in the 20th year of
that reign. The next owners of this manor were the Chich's, of the Dungeon,
as appears in a record of that time, at the beginning of king Henry IV.'s
reign, it was become the property of Fogge, and Sir John Fogge, of Repton,
by will anno 6 Henry VII. devised it to his son by his second wife, Sir
Thomas Fogge, sergeant-porter of Calais, whose two daughters and coheirs,
married to Oxenbridge and Scott, conveyed their moieties of it in 1558 and
1561, to Thomas Hales, esq. of Thanington, and he settled it on his eldest
son William, by his second wife Alice, and their son William Hales, in 1640,
conveyed the manor of Heppington, with the mansion and lands belonging to
it, to Thomas Godfrey, esq. the younger, of Lid. {fn See the descent of
Godfrey, vol. viii. p. 426.} (084 Vol ix pp 294-5)
.... Sir Thomas Moyle, to hold in capite, who alienated it [moiety of the
manor of Ham, Ham parish, Kent] in the 2d year of king Edward VI to Sir
Robert Oxenbridge, who becoming possessed of the other moiety in right of
his wife Alice, daughter and coheir of Sir Thomas Fogge, enjoyed the whole
of this manor, which his descendant passed away at the latter end of queen
Elizabeth's reign, to Edward Boys, esq. of Betshanger.
The other moiety of this manor, which in the 20th year of king Edward III.
was held by Richard, son of John Fitzbernard, passed from him into the
family of Criol, and Sir Nicholas de Cryell, or Keriell, died possessed of
it in the 2d year of king Richard II. and from him it devolved at length by
succession to Sir Thomas Keriell, who was slain in the 38th year of king
Henry VI. in asserting the cause of the house of York; on whose death, his
two daughters became his coheirs, and on the division of their inheritance,
this moiety of the manor was allotted to Alice, married to John Fogge, esq.
of Repton, afterwards knighted, and he in her right became possessed of it,
and by his will devised it to his son Sir Thomas Fogge, sergeant-porter of
Calais, both under king Henry VII. and VIII. one of whose two daughters and
coheirs Alice, upon the division of their inheritance, first carried it to
her husband Edward Scott, esq. of the Moat, in Sussex and afterwards to her
second husband Sir Robert Oxenbridge, who having purchased the other moiety
of this manor of Sir Thomas Moyle became entitled to the whole of it. The
family of Oxenbridge was seated near Winchelsea, in Sussex; in the church of
which, Camden says, there were the effigies on tombs of three knights
templars lying cross-legged, one of which, he supposes, was for one of the
family of Oxenbridge. His descendant passed away this manor as
above-mentioned, at the latter end of queen Elizabeth's reign, to Edward
Boys, esq. of Betshanger, whose descendant, Edward Grotius Boys, dying s.p.
in 1706, gave it by will to his kinsman, Thomas Brett, LL.D. rector of this
parish, being the son of Thomas Brett, gent. of Wye, by Letitia, the only
surviving sister of Jeffray Boys, esq. of Betshanger, the father of Edward
Grotius Boys, esq. above-mentioned. He not long afterwards alienated it to
Sir Henry Furnese, bart. of the same place, died possessed of it in 1733.
........ (084 vol x pp 39-40)
.... Sir Thomas Moyle, to hold in capite, who alienated it [moiety of the
manor of Ham, Ham parish, Kent] in the 2d year of king EdwardÿVI to Sir
Robert Oxenbridge, who becoming possessed of the other moiety in right of
his wife Alice, daughter and coheir of Sir Thomas Fogge, enjoyed the whole
of this manor, which his descendant passed away at the latter end of queen
Elizabeth's reign, to Edward Boys, esq. of Betshanger.
The other moiety of this manor, which in the 20th year of king EdwardÿIII.
was held by Richard, son of John Fitzbernard, passed from him into the
family of Criol, and Sir Nicholas de Cryell, or Keriell, died possessed of
it in the 2d year of king Richard II. and from him it devolved at length by
succession to Sir Thomas Keriell, who was slain in the 38th year of king
Henry VI. in asserting the cause of the house of York; on whose death, his
two daughters became his coheirs, and on the division of their inheritance,
this moiety of the manor was allotted to Alice, married to John Fogge, esq.
of Repton, afterwards knighted, and he in her right became possessed of it,
and by his will devised it to his son Sir Thomas Fogge, sergeant-porter of
Calais, both under king HenryÿVII. and VIII. one of whose two daughters and
coheirs Alice, upon the division of their inheritance, first carried it to
her husband Edward Scott, esq. of the Moat, in Sussex and afterwards to her
second husband Sir Robert Oxenbridge, who having purchased the other moiety
of this manor of Sir Thomas Moyle became entitled to the whole of it. The
family of Oxenbridge was seated near Winchelsea, in Sussex; in the church of
which, Camden says, there were the effigies on tombs of three knights
templars lying cross-legged, one of which, he supposes, was for one of the
family of Oxenbridge.
His descendant passed away this manor as above-mentioned, at the latter end
of queen Elizabeth's reign, to Edward Boys, esq. of Betshanger, whose
descendant, Edward Grotius Boys, dying s.p. in 1706, gave it by will to his
kinsman, Thomas Brett, LL.D. rector of this parish, being the son of Thomas
Brett, gent. of Wye, by Letitia, the only surviving sister of Jeffray Boys,
esq. of Betshanger, the father of Edward Grotius Boys, esq. above-mentioned.
He not long afterwards alienated it to Sir Henry Furnese, bart. of the same
place, died possessed of it in 1733. ........ (084 vol x pp 39-40)
Donna -
Thanks so much for all the wonderful information.
- Randy Jones
-----Original Message-----
From: Donna Van Zandt <donavan(a)netins.net>
To: CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com <CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 12:56 AM
Subject: Missouri Information
>
>
>Monroe County, Missouri Guardianship Bonds
>Curtis Herndon, minor orphan of John Herndon, dec'd. Guardian,
John
>Cissel. Sec. John Lang-13 Sept. 1841 (172)
>
>PERRY COUNTY, MISSOURI MARRIAGE BOOK A (1825-1841)
[snip]
�
Monroe County, Missouri Guardianship Bonds
Curtis Herndon,� minor orphan of John Herndon, dec'd.� Guardian, John
Cissel.� Sec. John Lang-13 Sept. 1841 (172)
PERRY COUNTY, MISSOURI MARRIAGE BOOK A (1825-1841)
8 Nov. 1825-Jacob Mattingly-Mary Duvall
gr. Age 23 son of Joseph Mattingly and Sarah Brewer
br age 17 dau. Of Simon Duvall and Mary Cissel
Consent wit. By Lewis Duvall and Clement Cissel
Wit:� James Hagen and Lewis Duvall
24 July 1827 Lewis Duval and Mary Hagen
gr. Age 22 ys. Son of Simon Duvall and Mary Cissel
br. Age 18 yr. 3 ms, dau. Of Aquila Hagen and� Mary Tucker
Wit:� Leo Layton and Henry Tucker
27Nov. 1827 William Stuart and Sarah Duvall
gr. Age 20 ys. Son of chas. Stuart and Elizabeth Shank
br. Age 20 ys. Dau. Of Simon Duvall and Mary Scissall
Wit:� Hillary Manning and Mary Hayden
13 Sep. 1830 Joseph D. Simson and Mary Cissell
gr. Age 21 ys. 3 ms., son of Joseph Simson and� Mary A. Montgomery
br. Age 17 ys. Dau. Of Clemon Cissell and Ann Layton
(Joseph Simson-Mary A. Montgomery married 19 Aug. 1782 in Charles
Co.Maryland)
6 Sep. 1831 Henry Tucker and Elizabeth Duvall
gr. Age 23 son of Nicholas Tucker and Mary Miles
br. Age 20 ys. Dau. of� Simon Duvall and Mary Cissell
wit. Raymond Tucker and Martina Cissell
4� Sep. 1832 Austin Layton and Thersia Duval
gr. Age 23 ys. Son of Ignatius Layton and Elizabeth Miles
br. Age 19 ys. Dau of Simon Duval and Mary Cisell
(Ignatius Layton married Elizabeth Miles 16 Nov. 1799 in Wash. Co. Ky.)
18 Sep.1832 John Thompson and Mary Ann Knot
gr. Age 27 ys. Of Barren Co. Ky. Son of James Thompson and Ann Thomas
br. Age 18 yrs dau. Of Clement Knott and Mary Elizabeth Quick
Wit:� Hilary Knott and Lucinda Brewer
15Jan. 1833 John Tucker and Christine Hagen
gr. Age 19 ys. Son of William Tucker and Sarah Hayden
br. 19 ys dau. Of Wilfred Hagen and Agnes Wheatley
Wit:� William Cissell and Elizabeth Tucker
�
16 Apr. 1833 Leo Moore and Ann Mahala Cissell
gr. Age 22 ys. Son of Isidore Moore and Leah McDaniel
br. Age 17 ys. Dau. Of Lewis Cissell and Maria Mattingly
Wit. Leo Moore and Catherine Cissell
22 Apr. 1833 Michael Tucker and Elizabeth Cissell
gr.upwards of Age 21 ys. Son of Nicholas Tucker and Mary Miles
br.upwards of Age 18 ys. Dau of Clement Cissell and Ann Layton
wit:� Raymond Tucker and Catharine Cissell
14 Jan. 1834 William Cissell and Elizabeth Tucker
gr age 23 ys son of John Cissell and Mary Morris
br age 19 ys dau of James Tucker and Thersia Hagen
wit:� Pious Hagan and Rebecca Hagen
25 Nov. 1834 Raymond Tucker and Mary Martina Cissell
gr age 22 ys. Son of Peter Tucker and Christina Hagen
br. Age 17 ys. Dau of Joseph Sissell and Ann Miles
2 Mar. 1835 Isidor Moore and Catherine Cissell
gr. Age 25 ys. Son of Isidore Moore and Lean McDaniel
br. Age 17 ys dau. Of Clement Cissell and Ann Layton
Wit:� Andrew Layton and Cecily Moore
17.Apr. 1835 Joseph Cissell and Mary Manning
gr. Age 43 ys. Widower of Ann Miles, dec'd
br. Age 34 ys. Widow of Michael Warren, dec'd
gr. Son of Bernard Cissell and Monica Pain
br. Dau. Of James Manning and Elizabeth Riley
Wit:� Wilfred Manning and Elizabeth Manning
18 Apr. 1837 Joseph Duvall and Rose Ann Layton
gr. Age 22 ys. Son of Simon Duvall and Mary Cissell
br. Age 20 ys. Dau of Ignatius Layton and Elizabeth Miles
23 Apr. 1837 John Cissell to a Miss Commonly Known by the name of
Susan Shufford but whose father's name is Mechum.
12 Sept. 1837 Simon Duvall to Mary Miles
gr. Age 19 ys. Son of Simon Duvall and Mary Ann Cissell
br. Age 19 ys. Dau. Of Henry Miles and Charity Steely
Wit:� Martin Tucker and Lucinda Hatin (Adlin? Another source- Edlin?)
7 Nov. 1837 Stephen Theodore Moore and Sarah Cissell
gr. Age 22 ys. Son of Isadore Moore Esq.. and Lier M. Daniel
br. Underage dau. Of Lewis Cissell and Alariah Mattingly, consent
21 Nov. 1837 Martin Tucker and Elinda Adlin (Edlen?)
gr. Son of John Tucker and Elina Adlin
br. Dau. Of William Adlin and Elinda Dickey
Wit:� Percy Cessel and Elinda Miles
24 May 1838 James Donohue and Elizabeth Cissell
18 Sep. 1838 Joseph Cissell and Elizabeth Moore
gr. Son of Lewis Cissell and Maria Mattingly
br. Dau. Of Isidore Moore and Lea McDaniel
Wit. Narius Cissell and Mary Ann Moore
18 Feb. 1840 Nerius Cissel and Christena Hagen
gr. Son of Joseph Cissell and Anna Miles
br. Dau of Aquilla Hagen and Mary Tucker
Wit:� John Hagan and Elizabeth Warren
9 Feb. 1841 Clement Duvall and Mary M. Tucker
gr. Son of Simon Duvall and Mary Cissell
br. Dau. Of John Tucker and Helena Miles
Wit:� Hosten Miles and Helena Miles
25 Apr. 1841 Henry D. Simpson and Helene Cissell
gr. Son of Jas. M. Simpson and Monica McAtee
br. Dau. Of Clement Cissell and Ann Layton
Wit:� Leo Cissell and Feleciane Blanford
�
�
�
�
Thanks to Peter Bales who mailed this to me from Australia. "This
Oxenbridge Pedigree Medievel Chart, showing descendent lines to Ursala mar.
Sir John Monson and to The Preacher, John Oxenbridge of 1st Church, Boston"
citing Sources: Penfolds Pedigrees of Sussex, Sussex Arch. Coll. VIII,
Harlequin Papers, and Sussex Chronicles-P.B.O. 1998. Also shows that Susan
Oxenbridge, of this line, married Sir. Thos. Cecil as her second husband.
This pedigree does not list any of Susan's children.
It is very long and covers seven generations, starting with John de
Oxenbridge of Atte Gale, Beckley, "Jurer 1329 and 1341." (What does the
term Jurer mean?)
Will send a copy via a generic word file as transcribed to my database to
all who request, because it is really too long for general posting.
Melissa Thompson Alexander
www.familytreemaker.com/users/a/l/e/Melissa-T-Alexander/
listowner: CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com; KRUTSINGER-L(a)rootsweb.com
Edmonds, WA USA
This is from The Ozarks Mountaineer.
The first part of the article just tells about the beginning of the war,
and how this county, Newton, had about 250 men of military age in 1860,
with perhaps 2/3rds of these men favoring the Union cause. Therefore
making it advisable for the rebel side turning to guerilla activity,
fighting in small bands and using hit and run tactis to ambush and
destroy supply trains and tie up federal troops in vain, and
frusttrating searches which prevented them from being used in larger
campaigns of the war
There was a number of these bands operating under such leaders as
Cooper, Patton, Greene, Caldwell and others. They fought individually
for the most part but on several occasions combined their strength under
the overall leadership of Capt. John Cecil, who has been the respected
and well loved sheriff of Newton Co. from 1842 to 1858.
Cecil was the son of Joseph Cecil who came to Newton County with his
Brother Benjamin from Tennessee around 1840. Both had large families
and were leaders in community affairs. But while John Cecil became
chief of the Confederates his younger brothers Samuel and James M.
Cecil and a cousin also named James, were Federal volunteers. James M.
Cecil died of wounds in a Springfield hospital. James Cecil was killed
in a Newton County skirmish. And Sam Cecil more than a dozen years
younger than John was first Sgt. and Scout for Captain Bailey's Co., of
the Union troopers, most of whom were enlisted from Newton County. Thus
brother fought against brother in the bitter war and often became the
most dangerous of foes because they were equally familiar with the
terrain and knew each others thinking and habits.
Service as sheriff and collector for the co. made Capt. John Cecil
indispensable to the southern cause. and the leader of a well organized
band. He was energetic, able, and possessed of a great personal
courage. Because of these qualities he was often sent on scouting
expeditions and served as a spy to keep the rebels informed of the
maneuvering of the union forces. There was no telegraph service in
these remote parts and surveillance was only possible through constant
watch by friendly agents, and friendly agents, and by foot or
horseback. Capt. Cecil had many narrow escapes. At different times the
Federals had several regiments, each consisting of two or more companies
and hundreds of men, all scouring the wilderness for one elusive rebel
and his guerrilla band.
Capt Cecil knew his people well and the entire county was as familiar to
him as his own backyard. He could organize quickly, pass the word to
gather for a raid or a skirmish and then disbnd and melt into the
thickly wooded hills afterward, leaving the heavy burdenned federals
plodding back and forth in frustrated and futile pursit.
(skipped******more info on battles and results)
Last 2 paragraphs.
Capt. Bailey and his command in which Sgt. Cecil was now chief Scout was
ordered to proceed from Berryvill, in Carrol Co., and join a search and
attack. This was young Sam Cecils oppurtunity. He had a strong hunch
where his older bro. and the guerillas could be found. When his
superiors had been tipped off, a careful plan of battle was formulated.
The two forces would surprise and attack simulataneously and from
opposite directions in a pincer movement.
It did not ome off quite as planned. The two detachments fell in with
one another and proceeded together. Cecil had moved his camp from where
it was first located to a spot some three miles distant. The dawn
attack, however, caught the rebels by suprise. Capt. Cecil tried
desperately to rally his men and persuade them to fight, but when they
saw the overwhelming odds arrayed against them, panic developed, and
soon they were throwing away their guns and fleeing in a mad race for
their lives.
Major Melton sensed his opportunity and ordered a cavalry charge, ,
riding down and slaughtering the luckless rebels. In the prusuit of
about eight miles. 30 men were killed and a number wounded. Eight were
taken prisoner, together with 23 horses and 25 stands of arms. Capt.
Cecil and Capt. Cooper who was with him, escaped together with the
greater part of their men. They managed to find safety in the Buffalo
River hills and were able to reorganize and contiue their war of
attrition with renewed anger and bitterness.
submitted to the Cecil-l(a)rootsweb.com by magin(a)hal-pc.org
What I have on John Cecils family
John Cecil, b. 10 April, 1822 place unknown by me
died 28 Feb. 1884, Kingston, Madison, Arkansas, buried Cecil Cemetery,
Kingston Arkansas
Son of Joseph Cecil and Margaret ___________________
married 2 Oct. 1845
Mary Davis
b. 8 Feb. 1825
d. 28 Feb. 1884, Kingston, Madison, Arkansas ( note both d. same day) I
only noticed that just now. Need to recheck and see if I made a mistake
on death date for each???
buried same cem. as husband.
1. Martha b. 25 June 1846 d. 15 Aug 1865
2. William Hiram b. 25 Apr 1848 d. 19 Sep 1911, m. Sarah , 4 sep 1870
3. M.L. b 2 Feb 1850, nft
4. J.W. b. 15 Dec 1852 d. 5 Jan 1855
5. J.L. b. 27 Sept 1854 d. 1938 Chico Tx. M. Mary Carroll ( He may be
named John)
6. Josep James Pinkney Springs b. 9 May 1858 d. 15 Oct 1873. buried
Cecil Cemetery,
Kingston Arkansas
source
John Cecils' Bible
John Cecil and Mary Davis Grave stone
>From a family record book
(#6. Note name always spelled Josep on any family record I can find)
I hope this helps someone on their search for our elusive and hard to
find ancestors named Cecil etc.....magin(a)hal-pc.org
Hello all!!
Although this isn't my family, I started this search because it is my
children's heritage. I hope someone will be able to connect. I haven't much
information but have most of the basics. Here goes......
James E. Cissell - b.1806 KY md.Elizabeth Lancaster(b.1817 KY)
Thomas B. Cissell - b.1841 KY md.Mary E. Mattingly (b.1848 KY)
James Alfonzo Cissell - b.27 Mar 1870 Washington Co. KY
md.Lula C. Hardin(b.Jan 1877 TX) in 1894 died in Waco, TX
James Bernard Cissell - b. 15 Aug 1895 AR d. 16 mar 1980 TX
md. Ruby Mary Powell (b.25 Jul 1897 TX) in Waco, TX
James Bernard Cissell Jr. - b.11 Oct 1915 Waco, TX
md.Delores Maria DeGonzales on 13 May 1957 in Panama
Michael Gene Cissell - (my children's father)
I do know that James B. Cissell Jr. had another son from another woman. I
don't know details except that it was taboo to talk about. The last I heard
he was living in Colarado.
Paula
Sharon -
I'm sorry, but I do not have a copy of the marriage license of
Aaron Ingram CECIL and Anna Butler SPRINGER. I'm forwarding this
to Cecil mail list in case someone on the list does.
- Randy Jones
-----Original Message-----
From: SharonHeim(a)aol.com <SharonHeim(a)aol.com>
To: rjones(a)charweb.org <rjones(a)charweb.org>
Date: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 1:01 PM
Subject: Cecil
>Randy, my line is:
>John Cecil and Elizabeth Sollers
>Samuel Witten Cecil and Rebecca White
>Zachariah Cecil and Nancy Ingram
>Aaron Ingram Cecil and Anna Butler Springer
>Samuel Cecil and Rhoda Truitt
>Aaron Albert Cecil and Emma Jane Roach
>Anna Lucile Cecil and John Lloyd List
>Mary Jance List and William Argyle Carter
>ME!
>
>I need a copy of Aaron Ingram and Anna Butler Springer's
marriage license. If
>you have a copy or know anyone with a copy I would appreciate
receiving it.
>They were married 24 Dec 1815 at Washington County, near
Springfield,
>Kentucky. DAR in Washington D. C. has the original Millikan
book on John
>Cecil but it would take me two months to get it as they
sometimes are so busy
>they put requests like mine on the "back burner" and of course,
I want it now.
>
>I am in hopes you have this copy of the certificate.
>
>Sharon
>
Donna, Randy
You two know this line better than I.
Melissa
-----Original Message-----
From: deedah [mailto:deedah@bellatlantic.net]
Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 3:43 PM
To: mada(a)cmc.net
Subject: Re: James Lemuel Cecil
Don and Melissa Alexander,
Your mention of the Cecil surname and the Fredericksburg area got my
attention! I have a Mary L. H. Cecil as a g.g.grandmother and I have
nothing else on her family except and elderly Elizabeth Cecil living with
her and husband and family in later years. My Mary was born in 1813 in
Virginia (the Elizabeth was born in 1800) and married in Caroline County,
Virginia 12/22/1835 to Thomas L. Jones (Originally from New Jersey, near
Philly) They raised their family in Caroline County (Bowling Green), very
close to Fredericksburg, VA. There is an established family of Cecils from
Maryland, and I have always theorized that Mary was part of that clan, but I
have not been able to prove it. I hope that your Cecil roots and mine can
help us establish a connection. Please let me know if any of this might be
familiar to you! Thanks a million!
David E. Wiley
deedah(a)bellatlantic.net
Don & Melissa Alexander wrote:
> Forward from Richard:
>
> (Remember, you cannot e-mail to RootsWeb lists in anything but plain text)
>
> My ancestor is James Lemuel Cecil, s/o John Grayson Cecil<B>, b 24 Jan
> > 1826, d 23 Sep 1864. He was a prisoner of war and died at the
Elmira,
> NY
> > prison camp. He was captured at the battle of Cold Harbor. His wife
> was
> > Amanda Kinzer, d/o Philip Kinzer and Ann Robertson. After his death,
> she
> > married Isaac Goodykoontz of Floyd County in 1865. The children were
> Melinda
> > A., b 1850, m 1871 Samuel F. Dobyns, Mary Ellen Cecil b. 1853, m ca
> 1871
> > Frazier O. Dobyns, Laura P. b Oct 1858, m 1875 Samuel Jackson, and
> Frazier
> > Frances, b 4 Nov 1861 (Floyd Co, VA), d 1 Mar 1954 (Hamilton Co.,
TN)
> m
> > 13 Jul 1885 Richard Alexander Kelly (Methodist Minister) b 17 May
1860
> > (Fredericksburg, VA), d 27 Oct 1833. These were my grandparents
> (daughter
> > Mary Amanda Kelly married Frank Norris Griscom, Hamilton County,
> TN).</B><B></B>
> > <P><B>Nancy Grayson, mother of John Grayson Cecil, was the daughter
of
> > John Grayson and Barbara Burdyne (Culpeper Co. Deed Book P. 687-89,
20
> > June 1765). Barbara Burdyne was the daughter of John Burdyne and
> Catherine
> > (will of Richard Burdyne, Culpeper County, 22 Jul 1761).</B><B></B>
> > <P><B>Richard Griscom</B></HTML>
According to my research he is Benj. Jr. Bro. as there was only 7 years
difference in their ages. Also Bailey m. Marilda Winningham. I hope my
math is right about their years. They were both sons of Old Benj. who
m. Pricilla Boylston. magin(a)hal-pc.org
Randy Jones wrote:
>
> Was the below William (b.c.1801) the son of Benjamin Sollers
> CECIL & Priscilla BOYLESTON, or of his son Benjamin (b.1794) who
> m. Sarah HATFIELD?
>
> - Randy Jones
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donna Van Zandt <donavan(a)netins.net>
> To: CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com <CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Date: Saturday, October 31, 1998 10:28 PM
> Subject: Re: Cecil's in Daviess Co., Mo
>
> >
> >
> >
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 03:15:34 -0600
From: David J. McCallister <David(a)Mccallister.net>
To: Randy Jones <rjones(a)charweb.org>
Subject: Witten Archives?
About a year ago, I made a post about a
Witten/Whitten document in Mixbury England. I believe it was for a
baptismal record in the 1600s or 1700s. I can't seem to locate the
particulars now. Would you or anyone on the list have that archived by
any chance?
Thanks!
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My ancestor is James Lemuel Cecil, s/o John Grayson Cecil, b 24 Jan
1826, d 23 Sep 1864. He
was a prisoner of war and died at the Elmira, NY prison camp. He was
captured at the
battle of Cold Harbor. His wife was Amanda Kinzer, d/o Philip Kinzer and
Ann Robertson.
After his death, she married Isaac Goodykoontz of Floyd County in 1865.
The children
were Melinda A., b 1850, m 1871 Samuel F. Dobyns, Mary Ellen Cecil b.
1853, m ca 1871
Frazier O. Dobyns, Laura P. b Oct 1858, m 1875 Samuel Jackson, and
Frazier Frances, b 4
Nov 1861 (Floyd Co, VA), d 1 Mar 1954 (Hamilton Co., TN) m 13 Jul 1885
Richard
Alexander Kelly (Methodist Minister) b 17 May 1860 (Fredericksburg, VA),
d 27 Oct
1833. These were my grandparents (daughter Mary Amanda Kelly married
Frank Norris
Griscom, Hamilton County, TN).
Nancy Grayson, mother of John Grayson Cecil, was the daughter of John
Grayson and
Barbara Burdyne (Culpeper Co. Deed Book P. 687-89, 20 June 1765).
Barbara Burdyne
was the daughter of John Burdyne and Catherine (will of Richard Burdyne,
Culpeper
County, 22 Jul 1761).
Richard Griscom
Forward from Richard:
(Remember, you cannot e-mail to RootsWeb lists in anything but plain text)
My ancestor is James Lemuel Cecil, s/o John Grayson Cecil<B>, b 24 Jan
> 1826, d 23 Sep 1864. He was a prisoner of war and died at the Elmira,
NY
> prison camp. He was captured at the battle of Cold Harbor. His wife
was
> Amanda Kinzer, d/o Philip Kinzer and Ann Robertson. After his death,
she
> married Isaac Goodykoontz of Floyd County in 1865. The children were
Melinda
> A., b 1850, m 1871 Samuel F. Dobyns, Mary Ellen Cecil b. 1853, m ca
1871
> Frazier O. Dobyns, Laura P. b Oct 1858, m 1875 Samuel Jackson, and
Frazier
> Frances, b 4 Nov 1861 (Floyd Co, VA), d 1 Mar 1954 (Hamilton Co., TN)
m
> 13 Jul 1885 Richard Alexander Kelly (Methodist Minister) b 17 May 1860
> (Fredericksburg, VA), d 27 Oct 1833. These were my grandparents
(daughter
> Mary Amanda Kelly married Frank Norris Griscom, Hamilton County,
TN).</B><B></B>
> <P><B>Nancy Grayson, mother of John Grayson Cecil, was the daughter of
> John Grayson and Barbara Burdyne (Culpeper Co. Deed Book P. 687-89, 20
> June 1765). Barbara Burdyne was the daughter of John Burdyne and
Catherine
> (will of Richard Burdyne, Culpeper County, 22 Jul 1761).</B><B></B>
> <P><B>Richard Griscom</B></HTML>
.is this fellow (the possible minister) from the line of John Cissell
of
St. Mary's?
That is the problem.� We do not know.� Most of our line traced from 1820
is Protestant.� We don't know if we go back to the Catholic line,
Protestant line, or a separate immigrant.� I suspect John
B.Sissel/Cissle was born circa 1750-70 in Maryland.� He married Sarah in
probably Hampshire co. Va. He had proven children mentioned in
guardianship papers:
1. Nancy� born 1797-1798 in probably Hampshire Co. WV married Solomon
White son of Andrew White and Elizabeth Neiswonger in Ohio Co. WV(
marriage registered in Wash. Co. PA) known children James, Joseph, John,
and Samuel.� She died 1 Aug. 1874 Ohio Co. WV(burial unknown)
2.� William born 12 July 1800 in probably Hampshire Co. WV married Nancy
McMahon 13 July 1826 in Belmont Co. Ohio.� She died 1840-42 and he
married 2nd� Elizabeth White Gallagher (first husband George Gallagher)
Known children:� Mary, James, Nancy, John, Sarah, Elizabeth, Arthur,
William, Margaret, Lewis K., Eliza J. Wm. & Eliza died and are buried in
Fulton co. Indiana.
3. James born 27/28 May 1799 in probably Hampshire Co. WV married Jane
McMahon 13 July 1826 in Belmont Co. Ohio.� Children:� John?, Joseph,
James M., Moses, Thomas, Mary T.,Sarah Jane, and Minerva A. He died 7
May 1881 in Vermillion co. Indiana and is buried in Edgar Co. Illinois.
4.� Mary (Polly) born circa 1805 in Ohio or Hampshire Co. WV
Suspected Children:
5. John B.� born 26 Feb. 1793 in Md.? Va.? NJ? married Sarah Beatty 19
Dec. 1819 in Meigs Co. Ohio dau. of John Beatty and Lucy.� Children:�
Mary, George W., Elizabeth, James M., William B., Thomas J., John J.
Died and buried Muskingum co. Ohio 1 Feb. 1866.
6. Henry (on tax list Hampshire Co. WV)
7.� Elizabeth born 1793-96 in Md. or Va. married James White (son of
Andrew White and Elizabeth Neiswonger) 24 dec. 1817 in Gallia co. Ohio.
(Meigs Co. is formed from it in 1819) Children:� James, John,
Washington, Jackson, Marion, Joseph, Aaron, Madison, Andrew, Jacob,
Elizabeth, Moses, Sarah, Mary,
>From tax records of Hampshire Co. WV the father of John B. may be a
William on tax records in 1780's in Hampshire Co.� Donna
Donna, what say you to this?
Melissa
-----Original Message-----
From: Pence234(a)aol.com [mailto:Pence234@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, November 06, 1998 1:14 PM
To: mada(a)cmc.net
Subject: Re: John Baptist Sissel
In a message dated 11/6/98 7:34:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, mada(a)cmc.net
writes:
<< In reading this, could it be that he was born a Catholic, or from the
Catholic branch, and because he was in a Protestant area or group of
people,
the transcriber confused the Baptist after his name as an indicator that he
was a Baptist minister?
Melissa
>>
Can't give a firm opinion on this one!! The name Jean-Baptiste is commen in
French Speaking countries, even among Catholics. I seem to be missing a
link
here...is this fellow (the possible minister) from the line of John Cissell
of
St. Mary's?
Was the below William (b.c.1801) the son of Benjamin Sollers
CECIL & Priscilla BOYLESTON, or of his son Benjamin (b.1794) who
m. Sarah HATFIELD?
- Randy Jones
-----Original Message-----
From: Donna Van Zandt <donavan(a)netins.net>
To: CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com <CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Saturday, October 31, 1998 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: Cecil's in Daviess Co., Mo
>
>
>magin wrote:
>
>> Hi I think I descend from the William who is Benj. Sollars
son. He m.
>> Rebecca Buttram, (source one of their sons marriage license
had to list
>> his parents on his marriage license) and they are both buried
Cecil
>> Cemetery, Polk Co. Arkansas. Mr. Ball and Alta Koch said this
William
>> went to Minnesota or some place like that but I think they
were wrong.
>> Do you have any idea about this? I had written the list before
but
>> couldn't answer my last post because of heavy illness in fam.
I think
>> that since one of his brothers has m. into the Butrum family
this makes
>> me think that both boys m. sisters. I just wish someone had
worked on
>> my line, so I could have someone to correspond with. Most of
this line
>> ended up in Texas. magin(a)hal-pc.org
>>
>> :
>> Using the information sent and some info. I had this looks
like the beginning of the
>> William line(son of Benjamin Sollers). Can anyone add to this
or make corrections?
>> Donna
>
>Descendants of William Cecil
>
>
>Generation No. 1
>
> 1. William5 Cecil (Benjamin Sollers4, Samuel W.3, John2,
William1) was born Bet.
>1801 - 1803 in Tennessee (Maybe Monroe County)1, and died
February 1880 in Polk
>County, Arkansas2. He married Rebecca Butrum3.
>
>Notes for William Cecil:
>
>Another source states William Harrison Cecil is a half nephew to
Francis so Bailey
>would be a half-brother to Francis. Obviously James would be,
also.
>
>Notes for Rebecca Butrum:
>
>Rebecca Butram is probably related to Polly Elmira Butram the
wife of Beatty Cecil.
>Her parents(Polly's) were Bailey Butram and Lucinda McCoy.
>
>Children of William Cecil and Rebecca Butrum are:
>+ 2 i. James6 Cecil, born 04 April, 1825 in Tennessee; died 24
December, 1917 in Polk
>County, Arkansas.
> 3 ii. Rebecca Cecil4, born Aft. 1825.
> 4 iii. John G. Cecil, born Abt. 1832 in Tennessee. He married
Margaret ??.
>+ 5 iv. Joseph Cecil, born Abt. 1836 in Arkansas (not a proven
child-probable).
>+ 6 v. Bailey Cecil, born 14 April, 1838; died 1881 in Polk
County, Arkansas.
> 7 vi. William H. Cecil5, born Abt. 1841 in Arkansas.
> 8 vii. Mary Cecil5, born Abt. 1843 in Arkansas.
> 9 viii. Sarah Cecil5, born Abt. 1846 in Arkansas.
>+ 10 ix. Francis Marion Cecil, born 11 November, 1848 in
Arkansas; died 12 March, 1940
>in Polk County, Arkansas.
> 11 x. Margaret Cecil, born Abt. 1850 in Arkansas.
> 12 xi. Alfred Cecil, born Abt. 1853 in Arkansas.
>
>
>Generation No. 2
>
> 2. James6 Cecil (William5, Benjamin Sollers4, Samuel W.3,
John2, William1)6 was born
>04 April, 1825 in Tennessee7, and died 24 December, 1917 in Polk
County, Arkansas7.
>He married (1) Miverva ??. He married (2) Mary E. Lebow.
>
>Notes for James Cecil:
>
>History of Cecil Chapel Cemetery
>
>The land for this cemetery was deeded by father and son, James
and Thomas Cecil.
>The James Cecil family consisted of twelve; James, his wife,
four sons and six
>daughters. William and Rebecca Cecil were the parents of James
and Francis Marion who
>is buried in Cecil Cemetery.
>
>
>More About James Cecil:
>cemetery: Cecil Chapel Cemetery, Polk County, Ark.
>
>More About Mary E. Lebow:
>cemetery: Cecil Chapel Cemetery, Polk County, Ark.
>
>Child of James Cecil and Miverva ?? is:
> 13 i. Rebecca7 Cecil, born Abt. 1847 in Arkansas.
>
>Children of James Cecil and Mary Lebow are:
> 14 i. Sarah J.7 Cecil8, born Abt. 1859 in Polk County,
Arkansas.
> 15 ii. James V. Cecil9, born 1864 in Polk County, Arkansas9. He
married Mary Boucher
>26 August, 1884 in Polk County Arkansas.
> 16 iii. John R. Cecil9, born 1866 in Polk County, Arkansas;
died 1950 in Polk County,
>Arkansas.
>
>More About John R. Cecil:
>cemetery: Cecil Chapel Cemetery, Polk County, Ark.
>
> 17 iv. Mira Emiline Cecil, born 1868 in Polk County, Arkansas.
She married W.H.
>Dugan 22 October, 1888 in Polk County Arkansas.
> 18 v. Thomas B. Cecil10, born 1869 in Polk County, Arkansas11;
died 1954 in Polk
>County, Arkansas11.
>
> 5. Joseph6 Cecil (William5, Benjamin Sollers4, Samuel W.3,
John2, William1) was born
>Abt. 1836 in Arkansas (not a proven child-probable)12. He
married Sarah ??12.
>
>Child of Joseph Cecil and Sarah ?? is:
> 19 i. Margaret7 Cecil12, born Abt. 1860 in Polk County,
Arkansas.
>
> 6. Bailey6 Cecil (William5, Benjamin Sollers4, Samuel W.3,
John2, William1)12,13 was
>born 14 April, 1838, and died 1881 in Polk County, Arkansas. He
married Marilda
>Wilmingham.
>
>More About Bailey Cecil:
>Burial: Cecil Cemetery, Polk County, Arkansas
>
>Child of Bailey Cecil and Marilda Wilmingham is:
>+ 20 i. William Harrison7 Cecil, born 11 January, 1877 in
Montague County Texas or
>Arkansas; died 17 March, 1957 in Perry, Noble County, Oklahoma.
>
> 10. Francis Marion6 Cecil (William5, Benjamin Sollers4, Samuel
W.3, John2, William1)
>was born 11 November, 1848 in Arkansas14, and died 12 March,
1940 in Polk County,
>Arkansas14. He married Roda Rush Lebow.
>
>Notes for Francis Marion Cecil:
>
>History of Cecil Cemetery
>
>The Cecil Cemetery is located on the late Francis Marion Cecil
homestead. ......The
>Cecil family moved to Polk County about 1850, when Francis
Marion Cecil was about two
>years old. Francis M. Cecil married Rhoda R. LeBow and settled
near the cemetery
>which bears his name. He reared a family of thirteen children.
>
>Children of Francis Cecil and Roda Lebow are:
>+ 21 i. Henry Clay7 Cecil, born 02 May, 1870 in Polk County,
Arkansas; died 26
>September, 1956 in Polk County, Arkansas.
> 22 ii. Alfred R. Cecil15, born 1872 in Polk County, Arkansas16.
> 23 iii. Charles F. Cecil17, born 06 March, 1873 in Polk County,
Arkansas18; died 20
>October, 1908 in Polk County, Arkansas18.
> 24 iv. Mary E. Cecil19, born 1875 in Polk County, Arkansas.
>+ 25 v. Hiram A. Cecil, born 1877 in Polk County, Arkansas; died
1948.
> 26 vi. William Cecil20, born 14 February, 1877 in Polk County,
Arkansas20; died 06
>April, 1877 in Polk County, Arkansas21.
> 27 vii. James M. Cecil22, born 1879 in Polk County, Arkansas.
>+ 28 viii. Marion Oscar Cecil, born 02 January, 1881 in Polk
County, Arkansas.
> 29 ix. Ode Walter Cecil23, born 05 January, 1887 in Polk
County, Arkansas.
> 30 x. Joseph Orren Cecil23, born 02 August, 1890 in Polk
County, Arkansas24; died 08
>February, 1920 in Polk County, Arkansas24.
> 31 xi. Ella Cecil25, born 19 August, 1892 in Polk County,
Arkansas.
>
>
>Generation No. 3
>
> 20. William Harrison7 Cecil (Bailey6, William5, Benjamin
Sollers4, Samuel W.3,
>John2, William1)26 was born 11 January, 1877 in Montague County
Texas or Arkansas26,
>and died 17 March, 1957 in Perry, Noble County, Oklahoma26. He
married Cora Matilda
>McCarley27, daughter of Albert McCarley and Alcie Reec.
>
>More About William Harrison Cecil:
>Died 2: 21 March, 1957
>cemetery 1: Cedar Mills Cemetery, Grayson Co. Texas28
>cemetery 2: Gordonville, Grayson Co. TX
>
>More About Cora Matilda McCarley:
>Died 2: 14 November, 1935
>cemetery: Cedar Mills Cemetery, Grayson Co. Texas
>
>Children of William Cecil and Cora McCarley are:
> 32 i. Oggie Archibole8 Cecil29.
> 33 ii. Era Earl Cecil30, born 17 July, 1898 in Cooke County,
Texas31; died 04 August,
>1981 in Grayson County, Texas32. He married Ida Minerva Meek 30
September, 1916.
>
>More About Era Earl Cecil:
>cemetery: Cedar Mills Cemetery, Grayson Co. Texas33
>
> 34 iii. Joe Bill Cecil33, born 01 June, 1903.
> 35 iv. Orda Mae Cecil33, born 21 October, 1910.
> 36 v. Cora Zae Cecil33, born 21 July, 1915.
>
> 21. Henry Clay7 Cecil (Francis Marion6, William5, Benjamin
Sollers4, Samuel W.3,
>John2, William1)33 was born 02 May, 1870 in Polk County,
Arkansas34, and died 26
>September, 1956 in Polk County, Arkansas34. He married A. Lora
??.
>
>Children of Henry Cecil and A. ?? are:
> 37 i. Olin8 Cecil34, born 16 October, 1900 in Polk County,
Arkansas34; died 13
>November, 1903 in Polk County, Arkansas34.
> 38 ii. Dessie V. Cecil34, born 18 March, 1911 in Polk County,
Arkansas34; died 19
>March, 1912 in Polk County, Arkansas34.
>
> 25. Hiram A.7 Cecil (Francis Marion6, William5, Benjamin
Sollers4, Samuel W.3,
>John2, William1)35 was born 1877 in Polk County, Arkansas, and
died 194836. He
>married Leona Mathews or Mathis37 03 November, 1895 in Polk
County Arkansas37.
>
>More About Hiram A. Cecil:
>cemetery: Cecil Cemetery, Polk County, Arkansas
>
>More About Leona Mathews or Mathis:
>cemetery: Cecil Cemetery, Polk County, Arkansas
>
>Child of Hiram Cecil and Leona Mathis is:
> 39 i. Efford8 Cecil38, born 05 May, 1899 in Polk County,
Arkansas38; died 25 May,
>1901 in Polk County, Arkansas.
>
> 28. Marion Oscar7 Cecil (Francis Marion6, William5, Benjamin
Sollers4, Samuel W.3,
>John2, William1)39 was born 02 January, 1881 in Polk County,
Arkansas. He married
>Ella Vesta Brooks39 01 October, 1905 in Little River County
Arkansas39.
>
>Children of Marion Cecil and Ella Brooks are:
> 40 i. Blanche Louise8 Cecil40, born 18 August, 1908 in Polk
County, Arkansas40; died
>30 July, 1909 in Polk County, Arkansas40.
>
>More About Blanche Louise Cecil:
>cemetery: Cecil Cemetery, Polk County, Arkansas
>
> 41 ii. Norma Ree Cecil, born 25 December, 1911 in Polk County,
Arkansas.
> 42 iii. Ralph Buckley Cecil, born 1913 in Polk County,
Arkansas41.
> 43 iv. Woodrow Wilson Cecil, born 19 December, 1918 in Polk
County, Arkansas.
> 44 v. James Cecil41, born 03 September, 1921.
>
>
>Endnotes
>
>1. Census-1830 Morgan County, Tennessee and 1860 Polk County,
Arkansas.
>2. Mortality Schedule 1880 Polk County, Arkansas.
>3. Son's Marriage record gives parents names..
>4. Family Group Sheet by Cynethia Meadows Cecil.
>5. 1860 Census Polk County, Arkansas.
>6. History of Cecil Chapel Cemetery.
>7. Cecil Chapel Cemetery Records-Polk County, Arkansas.
>8. 1860 Census Polk County, Arkansas.
>9. Arkansas IGI.
>10. History of Cecil Chapel Cemetery.
>11. Cecil Cemetery Records-Polk County, Arkansas.
>12. 1860 Census Polk County, Arkansas.
>13. E-mail May 17, 1998-magin(a)hal-pc.org.
>14. Cecil Cemetery Records-Polk County, Arkansas.
>15. Family Group Sheet by Cynethia Meadows Cecil.
>16. Family Group Sheet by Cynethia Meadows Cecil, 5606 Belcrest,
Houston, Texas
>77033-, compiled 1986.
>17. Family Group Sheet by Cynethia Meadows Cecil.
>18. Cecil Cemetery Records-Polk County, Arkansas.
>19. Family Group Sheet by Cynethia Meadows Cecil.
>20. Arkansas IGI.
>21. Cecil Cemetery Records-Polk County, Arkansas.
>22. Family Group Sheet by Cynethia Meadows Cecil.
>23. Arkansas IGI.
>24. Cecil Cemetery Records-Polk County, Arkansas.
>25. Arkansas IGI.
>26. E-mail May 17, 1998-magin(a)hal-pc.org.
>27. Family Group Sheet by Cynethia Meadows Cecil.
>28. E-mail May 17, 1998-magin(a)hal-pc.org.
>29. Family Group Sheet by Cynethia Meadows Cecil.
>30. E-mail May 17, 1998-magin(a)hal-pc.org.
>31. Family Group Sheet by Cynethia Meadows Cecil.
>32. E-mail May 17, 1998-magin(a)hal-pc.org.
>33. Family Group Sheet by Cynethia Meadows Cecil.
>34. Cecil Cemetery Records-Polk County, Arkansas.
>35. Family Group Sheet by Cynethia Meadows Cecil.
>36. Cecil Cemetery Records-Polk County, Arkansas.
>37. Arkansas IGI.
>38. Cecil Cemetery Records-Polk County, Arkansas.
>39. Arkansas IGI.
>40. Cecil Cemetery Records-Polk County, Arkansas.
>41. Arkansas IGI.
>
>
>
>
In reading this, could it be that he was born a Catholic, or from the
Catholic branch, and because he was in a Protestant area or group of people,
the transcriber confused the Baptist after his name as an indicator that he
was a Baptist minister?
Melissa
-----Original Message-----
From: Donna Van Zandt [mailto:donavan@netins.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 10:47 PM
To: CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: John Baptist Sissel
I have a dilemma. As Some of you know we had researched for 18 years
before Mickey Walkup sent us guardianship papers which gave the probable
father of our John B. Sissel. His father (not proven he was too old to
be listed in the guardianship papers) was a John " Baptist" Sissel of
Hampshire Co. Va. from tax records. If you read the paragraph starting
with "During the 1790's" you will see our dilemma our John is mentioned
but as a Baptist minister. On the other three records in Hampshire co.
he is listed as John B. Cissle/Sissel/etc. I would really appreciate
some thoughts on this. I had wondered if he possibly lived next to a
Baptist Creek or something. Would it be John Baptist the name, an
occupation or even a place designation. Thanks for any imput. Donna
; John Sissel, a "Baptist" (minister);
I have a dilemma.� As Some of you know� we had researched for 18 years
before Mickey Walkup sent us guardianship papers which gave the probable
father of our John B. Sissel.� His father (not proven he was too old to
be listed in the guardianship papers) was a John " Baptist" Sissel of
Hampshire Co. Va. from tax records.� If you read the paragraph starting
with "During the 1790's"� you will see our dilemma our John is mentioned
but as a Baptist minister.� On the other three records in Hampshire co.
he is listed as John B. Cissle/Sissel/etc. I would really appreciate
some thoughts on this.� I had wondered if he possibly lived next to a
Baptist Creek or something.� Would it be John Baptist the name, an
occupation or even a place designation.�� Thanks for any imput. Donna
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 00:43:36 -0500
From:� "Robert A. Stonerock" <rstonerock(a)cyberzane.net>
To: OHMUSKIN-L(a)rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <000f01bad80c$187c0ca0$807287d0@default>
Subject: Edwards Researchers-Muskingum Co.
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Here is a message that I got from another list.� Samuel Edwards is
mentioned
about 1/2 down the message.
TL
Robert A. Stonerock
rstonerock(a)cyberzane.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Wilmer L. Kerns [mailto:wlkerns@intr.net]
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 1998 11:12 AM
To: OLD-FREDERICK-CO-VA-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Research Tips- Hampshire County, VA
Tips For Historical and Genealogical Researchers:
Ancient Tax Records Reveal Facts About Pioneers in Old Hampshire County
By: Wilmer L. Kerns, Ph.D.
������� Do you have ancestors in Old Hampshire County, Virginia? Many
interesting personal tidbits about early settlers are found in a
recently published taxpayer data book.� Transcribed from original,
hand-written records in the Virginia State Library, Archives Division,
the publication contains information collected by county commissioners
of revenue during the years 1782 through 1799.
������� Published by a firm in Miami Beach, Florida, called L.T.C.
Genealogy,
the 308-page publication lists about 21,000 taxpayers over an 18-year
period. The data are presented by year, by name of tax collector, and by
date of collection.
������� These records were created during the process of assessing
tithables
and collecting personal property taxes at the county level.� A tithable
was a tax assessment for a male who had reached a certain age (usually
16 years or older).� Practically every resident head of household was
listed in the tax records.� Although not intended, these records now
serve as a type of annual county census for historians and
genealogists.� The lists are strategic in establishing proof of
residence for heads of families.
������� During the 1782-1799 era, old Hampshire County included all of
Mineral
County, West Virginia and the western part of what is now Morgan County,
West Virginia, as well as present-day Hampshire County.� Also, the first
portion of these tax records, from 1782 through 1785, includes all of
present-day Hardy and Grant Counties, W. Va.
������� Tax records give clues on migration residence, death, family
growth and
affluence.� Don't look for a historical narrative or explanation.� These
are raw data elements or records that are used and understood primarily
by researchers.
������� In Virginia, taxes were assessed annually on personal property,
as well
as on real estate.� In this geographic area of the old State, a horse
was often the second most valuable asset, next to real (estate)
property.� Almost every family owned at least one horse for
transportation, if not for small-time farming operations.� Horse power
was the major work unit in industry.
������� If you want to make a survey of the sheep or cattle population
in
Virginia during a given year, the personal property tax records will
provide a data base, county-by-county.
������� The article on 1813 mill owners of Old Frederick County,
published in
the February 15, 1989 issue of The West Virginia Advocate, was developed
from the personal property tax records of several counties.
������� Other kinds of personal property were occasionally assessed and
taxed
from year-to-year, such as clocks, silverware, carriages, breeding
horses, etc.,� depending on legislative authority.� Slaves were also
considered as personal property, but were not heavily populated in
Hampshire County.� Numerous free blacks were listed in the tax books,
often without a surname.
������� Surname or family profiles may be developed from the tax
records.� For
example, a relative measure of affluence can be established by charting
property ownership over time, year-by-year, and family-by-family.
Persons who owned slaves, breeding horses, or common horses, of varying
numbers, were the most affluent.� Tax profiles of families can serve as
the basis for presenting one facet in a family historical narrative.
All sources of information are worthy of consideration, but primary
records are of most value.
������� Persons who want to study the Hampshire County hand-written,
personal
property tax records on microfilm, for the 1782-1850 period, may do so
in person at the Library of Virginia in Richmond.� These microfilm reels
may also be obtained through interlibrary loan, for a small fee,� via
your local library.� Any librarian will give routine assistance on this
kind of request.
������� Old tax records are considered to be dry-bones reading, except
by
researchers.� Those who are interested in the early communities will
learn who lived in what sections of the county during the 1782-1799
period of time.� Tax collectors went from door-to-door to create records
in the order of their visits.� Generally, taxes collected on a given day
were of residents in the same neighborhood, but not always. In certain
cases, an understanding of the road system of the 1790s is helpful.� No
published county road map of the late 1700s is available.
������� Commissioners wrote notations to distinguish between persons who
had
identical names.� Sometimes this meant that the name of father was
given, such as "John Jones, son of Peter Jones", to distinguish him from
John Jones, son of John Jones Sr.� Other times a person was
distinguished by his residence, "of Pattersons' Creek" or "Little
Cacapon" or "Rock Gap"; by his occupation, "the miller" or "millwright";
by his nationality, "the Scotchman"; or by a personal characteristic,
such as "lazy." Often these symbols were abbreviated, such as "BC" for
Big Cacapon, "son o/Sa" for son of Samuel, "PC" for Pattersons' Creek,
"SM" for Scotchman, or "SB" for South Branch.� "Small John Parker" and
"Big Neck John Largent" were well-known persons during the late 1700s.
Special notations were not defined nor required, but used for
record-keeping by the collector. I have not been able to decipher all of
the abbreviations.
������� Reading old records requires imagination and skill in
interpreting
phonetic spellings of names.� Not all tax collectors were equally
literate, as evidenced by these spellings: Blew for Blue; Arnal for
Arnold; Carns for Kerns; Rine for Ryan; Polsan for Powelson; Codey for
Caudy; Mikell for Michael; Ferman for Foreman; Slain for Slane; Pew for
Pugh; Oolery or Wolary for Ullery; Huph for Huff; Yoe for Yost; Shitch
or Shits for Sheetz; Ronamus for Heironimus; Barsinger for Persenger;
Layfolit for LaFollette; Cannaday for Kennedy; Demarse for DeMoss; and
Millik for Malick
������� Occasionally,� personal comments were made about individuals.
For
example, on the 1797 tax list,� Jacob Kerns (1762-1828), my 3-great
grandfather,� was labeled a "lame man."� I have often wondered why he
owned only 20 acres of poor mountain top land on Timber Ridge, while his
brothers owned farms containing several hundred acres each.� The fact
that several children of Jacob Jr. were trained in the occupation of
coopery (manufacturing barrels, kegs and wooden containers), suggested
that Jacob Jr. may have been a cooper, himself. After learning that he
was a physically disabled person, it became plausible that his
occupation could have been a cooper rather than a farmer; that land was
not essential for that occupation.
������� Not all notations were complimentary.� Had the tax commissioner
realized that his records and notes would be preserved for public
inspection in a state archives, 200 years later, perhaps he would have
been more conservative in making personal comments.� For some reason,
the tax collector labeled John Spencer Sr. as a "madman."� In subsequent
years, John Spencer was called "madman and his son."� Spencer lived
several miles west of Romney, between Fox Hollow and Pattersons' Creek.
Why was he called the madman of Hampshire County? Did he threaten to
kill the tax collector?� Was he a caveman type? Does anyone know the
story, or was it lost forever?� Perhaps we will never know.
������� Miscellaneous information on emigration was reported on the tax
lists.
For example, in 1797, Samuel Berry moved to Frederick County; one
Benjamin Foreman moved to Berkeley County (there being several Benjamin
Foremans); James Hill lived in Romney; Jan'e Morgan (of Timber Ridge)
moved to Kentucky; Israel Brady to Berkeley County; John Downing was
"gone"; Thomas Bennett Sr. and Jr. both moved to Frederick County; Jesse
Harlin moved to Berkeley County; David Shinn moved to Hampshire County;
John O'Quin moved to Hampshire County.
������� Samuel Edwards moved to Muskingham, Ohio,� according to the 1797
tax
list.� He was a son of David Edwards and a grandson of Joseph Edwards,
the fortbuilder at Capon Bridge.� Samuel disappeared from Hampshire
County immediately upon selling his inherited land to Elias Poston in
1797, leaving no clues.� Thanks to the tax records, we now know that he
resettled in Ohio.
������� Looking beyond statistical information, we learn names of some
of the
medical doctors and ministers of that period of time.
������� In 1784, notations were made next to the names of William Blair
and
William Broughton that they were "pensioners," presumably from the
French and Indian War era.
������� Mr. Collins was a schoolmaster in the Capon Bridge area in
1798.� Six
years earlier, Thomas Frey (sometimes spelled Fry) taught school on
Timber Ridge, in the eastern part of the county.
������� In 1799, John Stewart, of the Fox Hollow area, had only one
eye.� John
Parrill and John Higgins were designated as "major", and Abram Johnson
as "captain", on the tax lists, presumably references to Revolutionary
War service status.
������� During the 1790s, occupations were listed for certain persons:
Samuel
Davidson, a carpenter; Thomas Fitzgerald, a joiner; Isaac Parsons, a
ferryman on the South Branch River; James Garrett, a tailor in eastern
Mineral County; John Smith, a cooper; John Long, a miller along
Pattersons' Creek; James White, a weaver in Pattersons' Creek area;
Catey Adams, a widowed tavernkeeper in the Frankfort area; Daniel
Arnholt, a joiner; Emanuel Host, a saddler; Job Shepherd, a surveyor;
Andrew Smalley, a tailor; Michael Sheetz, a cooper; George Miller, a
"smith"; John Dowden, a tavern keeper in what later became Mineral
County; James Dailey, a Romney merchant; Elijah Gayter, an Attorney in
Romney; Edward Dyer, a medical doctor in Romney and Hampshire County;
Dennis Daniels, a cooper; James Piercey, a doctor in lower Pattersons'
Creek Valley; John Sissel, a "Baptist" (minister); George Swagger, a
joyner; Dennis Sheridan, a merchant; Alexander King, a merchant in
vicinity of Frankfort; John Nelson (Nielson), a medical doctor; Perez
Drew, a tavern owner in the South Branch Valley; John Reed,� a tavern
operator in Romney; Thomas Williams, a doctor; William Nelson, a medical
doctor who practiced in or near Hardy County; Nathaniel Parker, a
miller; Lewis Dunn, a medical doctor in a part of old Hampshire County
that later became Mineral County; Isaac Means, a tavern owner in the
Romney area; Thomas Hughes, a tailor; John McCartney, a weaver; Matthias
Hough, a shoemaker; Samuel Clark, a "slelton"; John Rannells, minister
of the Gospel; David Parsons, "Cl for Ferry"; Thomas Williams, a doctor
in the Capon Bridge area;� Dicks Thompson, a millwright in what later
became Mineral County, W.Va.; John Ray, a joiner or carpenter;� George
Fisher, a doctor; Tom, a free black who lived in Romney during the
1790s; John Lyle, a Presbyterian minister.
������� Names of certain taxpayers are not found in other public
records.
Consider Ely Pugh, Hull South, Beal Babbs, or Beeler Stoker. In a
limited way, the tax records can serve as a substitute
late-18th-century-census in a county which lost most of the public
records during the Civil War. The first surviving Federal census for
Hampshire County was taken in the year 1810.� The 1790 and 1800 censuses
were burned by the British during the War of 1812.
������� Finally, the tax records are valuable to researchers because
they
provide clues on when certain county residents died. This is especially
important in cases where a person did not write a will; who disappeared
from the next U.S. census; and who left no further trace in public
records. Did the person immigrate, or did they die "quietly" in
Hampshire County?� If a resident died during months preceding the annual
visit by the tax collector, an entry might say "estate of Samuel Park,"
"heirs of Francis Keyes," or "widow Ely."
������� For example, in the Bloomery district, in 1799, tax collector
John
Parrill reported four recent deaths: Francis Keyes, Joseph Johnston,
John Larew, and William Robison. Longitudinal research in subsequent tax
records reveals that John Larew's wife was named Hannah.� These tidbits
become more significant after they are placed in the context of broader
data bases (land records, census, wills, estate settlements, and so
forth) which reveal a family profile over time.
������� An official at T.L.C. Genealogy informed me that plans for
future
publications include personal property tax records of Frederick County,
Virginia, 1782-1799, and Hampshire County, Virginia, 1800-1825.� Also
needed is a publication of the Hardy County, Va. tax lists for the
1786-1805 period of time.� As researchers learn about these
publications, I predict they will become very popular reference books.
Pass along this important information to your friends.
������� The 1782-1799 tax book is spiral-bound and reasonably priced.
If your
ancestors lived in Hampshire County during that time frame, they should
be listed in the book.� Orders should be addressed to: T.L.C. Genealogy,
P.O. Box 403369, Miami Beach, Florida 33140-1369.
Article written and copyrighted by Wilmer L. Kerns and published in The
West Virginia Advocate.
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Don & Melissa Alexander wrote:
> Which Thomas Cissell would have been in Pittsville to witness this will?
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> Pittsylvania co. Va. Wills
> Last Will and Testament of of
> WILLIAM REYNOLDS in perfect health, sense and
> memory.
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> Deed Book 9, pg. 37-39 written 16 January 1791,
> probated 18 July 1791
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> To my loving wife Martha REYNOLDS
> the plantation with improvements where I now live, together with one
> moeity
> of whole tract being 104 acres on the same side of the road with my
> plantation
> during her life.
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> To my beloved son Joseph REYNOLDS
> at the decease of my wife, 54 acres of said land and plantation.
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> The other 50 acres and plantation on Gease Branch
> where my beloved son Richard Coyle REYNOLDS
> now lives, to him and his heirs.
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> To my wife, two feather beds and furniture, the
> pewter, 2 chests, spining wheels, rest of the household furniture, my
> riding
> horse, her saddle, 2 cows, 1 heafer, 9 head of hogs to be hers during
> her
> lifetime. At her decease, to be sold and divided among my children:
> Sally,
> Tiffey, Betty, Thomas, Johan, Jessey, William, James, Alice, Thomas,
> Lucy,
> Joseph, Richard Cole REYNOLDS and Anna DAVIS.
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> Appoint my wife and Robert WALTER, Jr.
> executors.
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> WILLIAM (X) REYNOLDS
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> Wittnesses: Thomas CISSELL,
> Samuel CONSTABLE, John WILSON, and William
> LYNCH security for executors.
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> �Thank you Melissa, for taking the time to send all those great URL's.
> Donna
I really don't know but a good guess might be this one:
1790 Fred. Co. Md
Thos. Cecil 3 m to 16, 1 m 16+, 1 f
Not found in 1800
1810 Rowan co. North Caroline
Thos. Sissell�� 1 m 10-16, 3 m 16-26, 1 m 45+, 1 f und 10, 1 f 10-16, 2 f
16-26, 1 f 45+
1820 Rowan co. North Carolina
Thomas Cecil 1m 16-26, 1 m 26-45, 1 m 45+, 1 f 26-45
1850 Forsythe Co. North Carolina
Thomas K. Cissell 62 shoemaker Maryland
Matilda 29 NC
Milly 5 NC
Susan ? (und. 5)
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Descendants of Thomas Cecil, Sr.
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Generation No. 1
�1.� Thomas4 Cecil , Sr.� (William3, Phillip2, William1) was born Abt. 1760
in Maryland, and died Aft. 1820 in Rowan co. North Carolina.� He married
Unknown ?? Abt. 1785 in Probably Maryland.
Child of Thomas Cecil and Unknown ?? is:
�2 i. Thomas K.5 Cecil, born Abt. 1788 in Maryland; died Aft. 1850.� He
married Unknown ??.
(Alta Cecil Koch)
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