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-----Original Message-----
From: Mtnflower9(a)aol.com [mailto:Mtnflower9@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 1998 6:37 PM
To: donavan(a)netins.net
Subject: Re: The Widow Cecil
OH! Donna!
I think that you have opened a door for me in regards to a son of Capt. John
Vertrees of whom I have no lineage information.
Here goes
Capt, John Vertrees - B. April 27, 1741 - Monocacy, Maryland
D. 1802 Elizabethtown, Kentucky
M. 1st - 1767
Rebecca Burris
D. 1785
Children
Daniel Hardin Vertrees - B. July 21, 1768 - Killed by Indians in Kentucky
Joseph Vertrees - B. January 4, 1770 (my ex-husbands line)
(Captured by Indians at age 9 and excaped at age 18)
D. May 10, 1823 - Hardin Co. Kentucky
M. June 8, 1793 - Nelson Co. Kentucky7
Margaret LaRue Hodgen - daughter of Robert & Sarah (LaRue) Hodgen
B. May 14, 1776 - Frederic Co. Virginia
D. October 16, 1852
Rebecca Vertrees - B. October 4, 1772
D. before November 19, 1802 - will proved January 18, 1803
M. July 22, 1793 - Hardin Co. Kentucky
John Allison
Mary Vertrees - B. August 2, 1774
M. August 1, 1795
John Maurice Miles
Sarah Vertrees - B. December 27, 1776
M. 1st = May 18, 1797
Edward Rawlings
M.2nd - ________ Gunterman
John Vertrees Jr. - B. February 14, 1779 - Elizabethtown, Kentucky
D. November 16, 1856 - Morgon Co. Illinois
M. January 2, 1800 - Haycrafts Ft. - Elizabethtown, Kentucky
Nancy Haycraft - daughter of Samuel & Margaret (VanMeter) Haycraft
Sr. B. September 11, 1781 - Elizabethtown, Kentucky
D. August 30 (20), 1865 - Illinois
Isaac Miles Vertrees - B. February 2, 1781
D. 1832 (probably Monogahila, W. Va.)
M. February 24, 1803 - Hardin Co. Kentucky
Sally Luallen (Llewellyn) (Lewallan according to records in Hardin Co.
Kentucky
D. 1812
Jacob Vertrees - B. July 20, 1783/85
D.
M. December 13, 1807
Elizabeth Young (This is probably the family that you have run into and I
have no other information about)
As to Jacob Vertrees calling the Cecil children his sons and daughters (back
in those days families took care of one another. I have no information as
to
Jacob and Elizabeths children whatsoever. Other than my ex-husbands direct
lineage the rest of the information on the VERDRIESS -
Vertrees/Vantreese/Vantrease/Virtries/Vontreese etc lineages have come to me
from descendants and I have just compiled them all into a book. The early
early people just weren't very imaginative about names so each generation
always had the same names and you have to have dates of birth etc to figure
out who belongs to whom. HAHA Now the conlusion I have right now as to
your
question with what you have sent to me is this. Susan Cecil was a widow and
these were her Children. Perhaps a son of Jacob and Elizazabeth married
into
the Cecil family. Now there were two Jacob Vertrees marrying Elizabeth
Young
* on in 1806 and one in 1807. So any research this is going to have to be
watched. The other Jacob Vertrees and Elizabeth Young marriage in 1807
produced no offspring, but from relatives that I personally spoke to said
the Jacob was quite the squallyway. If you get my drift.
Back to Capt. Johns Jacob wife Elizabeth if they had no children and widow
Susan Cecil was a close neighbor is could be that Jacob and Elizabeth took
this family in and helped to raise the Cecil children. A lot of that went
on also. If you come up with anymore info please do let me know. Right now
I am working on some new information that has been sent to me and perhaps I
may come across the answer.
Well this is quite long and I must run.
Again thanks for the info that you sent and if I come across anything I will
let you know. It has been said that if we all go back far enough everybody
is a kin.
The original family name is Verdriess and because of whomever was taking
down information they wrote what they heard. It is also said that Capt.
John Vertrees for whatever reason changed the name to Vertrees in this
family. The Vantrease/Vantreese/ Van Treese/ Van Trease were mostly in
Tennessee. So you see tracing a family you have to really be a detective
but oh is it fun when you find something.
Again thanks
Sheila Vertrees
Mtnflower9(a)aol.com
I have sent this before but I have collected a little more information.�
Does anyone know who this widow Susan Cecil is?� Donna
This is what I have:
1840 Hardin Co. Kentucky
Susan Cecil 2 m und 5, 1 m 15-20, 2 f 5-10, 1 f 40-50
1850 Hardin Co. Kentucky
Dist. # 3
Susan Cecil 51 Ky
Jo. V. (or A.?) 25 Ky
Lucinda E. 19 Ky
Maria 17 Ky
Lafayette 14 Ky
Miles V. 12 Ky
Warren M. 9 Ky
Martha 7 Ky
John Bennett 19 NC
1860 Clark Co. Missouri pg. 552
Jos. Cecil 31 KY
Mary A. 26 Mo.
Susanna 6 Mo.
Sarah A. 5 Mo.
Jno. F. 3 Mo.
Mary C. 5/12 Ky
Miles Cecil 21 Ky
pg. 554
Thomas P. Moore? 24 Ky
Sarah 26 Indiana
Warren Cecil 19 Ky
Susan R. Cecil married Robert B. England 10 Feb. 1858-Hardin co. Ky
Some marriage performed in Hardin Co. Ky in 1831-1833 are performed by
C. Cecil who I presume to be Charles Cecil brother to Benjamin Peregrine
Cecil who married Eliza Dimmit VonTress.� Charles was a priest in Hardin
Co. Ky according to Webb 1884 and Hist. Union Co. Ky pg. 869
-1886-.(Lampkin)� Charles Cecil brother to Benjamin and son of Wilford
and Cecelia Clark died in 1833. (I would like to see those estate papers
naming the rest of his bro and sis) :-D
Bennett, John and Lucinda Cecil marriage 3 Oct. 1850 surety Michael
Bennett, Mary Bennett , man's mother, gave written consent;� witnesses
Abm Lewis and Michael Bennett.� Susan Cecil, girl's mother, gave written
consent;� witnesses Abm Lewis and Joseph A. Cecil. -J. Rogers
Pearman, Enos K. and Louisa Jane Cecil 6 Jan. 1849 Surety Bryan R.
Young.� Man of age.� B. R. Young girl's guardian, consented in person.
7 Jan. 1849-M. Stith
Wright, Martin G. and Elizabeth Cecil 22 June 1844 Surety Joseph Cecil.
Man of age.� Susan Ceil, girl's mother, gave written consent.� Witnesses
Abm. Lewis and Joseph Cecil- no return
Hardin Co. Kentucky Will book E 1837-1866 V. 2
pg. 110
In the name of God, Amen.� I Jacob Vertrees of Hardin County, Kentucky,
being of sound and disposing memory, make and ordain this my last will
and testament.
������� Item 1st - After the payment of debts, including funeral
expenses, I will and bequeath to my wife, Elizabeth Vertrees, the place
upon which I now live, together with all the appertinances therewith
belonging, during her natural life.� I, also, will to my said wife,
Elizabeth Vertrees, my man, Jack, and woman, Munsey (?), and their
children, Rachel, John, Ben, Frances, Diane & all the increases of said
Negroes during the life of my said wife.
������� I, also, will and bequeath to my said wife, all my stock of
every description, including horses, cattle, hogs, sheep, all my
household and kitchen furniture, farming utensils & everything else
attached to the premises, during her natural life.
������� Item 2nd - After the death of wife, Elizabeth Vertrees, I will
and bequeath to my daughter (called) Louisa Cecil, the tract of land
upon which I now live to be bounded as follows (Viz) Running the whole
length of Wm. B. Vertrees lower line, thence from said Wm. B. course
with my line until it reaches the second valley to a stone marked
(marking on stone), thence a straight line to my crop fence to another
stone marked (marking on stone), thence with that fence, until it comes
to the upper fence of my meadow, continuing that course until it crosses
the creekthence up the creek far enough so that a line running out from
the creek will leave all the improved land below, running out to
Hardaways line, & thence up to said Wm. B. Vertrees line to the
beginning.� I, also, will and bequeath to my daughter, Louisa Cecil, my
black girl, Rachel & boy John, after the death of my wife.
������� Item 3rd - After the death of my wife, I will and bequeath to my
son, called Lafayette Cecil, all the land below that I have willed to
his sister, Louisa, on both sides of the creek, adjoining Ben & L.P.
Hardaway running with my line until it reaches a hickory tree corner
between said L.P. Hathaway and myself and thence with my line near to
the fence where the widow Cecil now lives and thence parallel with said
fence some ten yards distant from it till it comes to the corner and
then to turn with the fence and run its course until it strikes the line
between myself and William Bowman.� And thence with my line to first
stone marked (marking on stone) in the line of the land willed to Louisa
Cecil.� After the death of my wife, I will and bequeath to my son,
Lafayette Cecil, my black boy, Ben and girl, Frances.
������� Item 4th - I will and bequeath to my daughter called Martha
Cecil, all the balance of my tract of land adjoining the land willed to
her brother, Lafayette, L.P. Hathaway & old man Harmon, the same upon
which the widow Cecil now lives & I will that Mrs. Susan Cecil shall
continue to occupy said land and use it as her own until Martha becomes
of age or during her life.� In case my daughter, Martha, shall die, I
will and bequeath to Mrs. Susan Cecil, the above described land during
her life & at her death, I will and bequeath it to her three children,
Maria Cecil, Miles Cecil, and Wanca Cecil.
������� Item 5th - At the death of my wife, I will and bequeath to my
daughter, Martha Cecil, my black girl, Diana & the first living child my
woman Nancy (?) may have.� (Winny instead of Nancy)
������� Item 6th - At the death of my wife, I will that my man, Jack, be
free and that Winny with all her increases.� After the above devises be
equally divided between my three children, Louisa, Lafayette & Martha
Cecil, share and share alike.� It is my will that my three children, to
wit, Louisa, Lafayette & Martha Cecil shall take care of my man Jack &
see that he shall be comfortable.
������� Item 7th - I will and bequeath that if either of my above named
children shall die (Viz), Louisa, Lafayette or Martha Cecil or if any
two of them shall die, that the two surviving shall have the land and
negroes devised, except the land devised to Martha, this being disposed
of above.
������� Item 8th - After the death of my wife, I will the personal
estate which may be on hand, to be equally divided (without a sale)
between my three above named children.
������� Item 9th - It is my desire that my beloved wife, Elizabeth
Vertrees & my friend, Dr. B.R. Young, act as my executors & executrix &
that they shall not be required to give security as such.� In testimony
whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal this 26th day of August,
1846.
Attest James W. Hayes��������������������������������������������� Jacob
Vertrees (seal)
�������� Geo. L. Miles
At a county court began and held for Hardin County at the courthouse in
Elizabethtown on Monday the 12th day of April, 1847, the within
instrument of writing purporting to be the last will and testament of
Jacob Vertrees, deceased, was produced in open courtand was proven in
part by the oaths of James W. Hays, one of the subscribing witnesses
thereto, to be the true last will and testament of said Jacob Vertrees,
and the same was continued for further proof.� And afterwards, to wit,
at a court began and held for said county and courthouse aforesaid on
Monday the 19th day of May 1847, came George L. Miles, the other
subscribing witness who being sworn establisehed said will according to
law.� And thereupon I have truly recorded the same in my office this
10th day of June, 1847.
������������������������������������������������������� Saml. Haycraft,
Clerk
�
�
�
�
Greetings,
I have posted this information in other places and have been helped
tremendously by Donna Van Zandt. Perhaps someone on this list can help me
piece the puzzle together.
I am trying to find a solid connection between Joseph Cecil and Samuel S
Cecil. My information includes the following:
I have two records of Joseph Cecil in Daviess county:
1860 Jackson township
J.G. Cecil 28 Tenn
Elizabeth 22 Va
Sarah P 5 Iowa
Missouri A. 3 (f)
George R. 1 Missouri
1870 Harrison township
Joseph Cecil 42 Tenn
Elizabeth 33 Tenn
Sarah J 15 Iowa
Missouri A 12 Iowa
George 10 Mo
Hopkins 8 Mo
Columbus 6 Mo
Martha 4 Mo
By 1880 the only Cecil that fits into this family that I could find was
1880 Harrison township
Ann Ceicel 23 neice Mo Tenn Va
Ann, who I believe is Missouri A., is living with this family:
Hale, Richard 55 Ky Va NC
- , Mauda 45 Va Tn Tn
_ , Jacob 22 Mo Ky Va
Is Mauda,(Maude?), the sister of Elizabeth? There is also a marriage record
of Ann Cecil and Henry B Tuggle in 1885 in Daviess county.
My ggrandfather was Daniel C Cecil. I believe that his middle name was
Columbus. By 1900 he is back in Daviess county. I can not find any
information concerning the rest of this group.
Any help is appreciated,
Larry
Cecil to a Henry B. Tuggle in Daviess county in 1885.
larry
robbins(a)lightspeed.net
Bakersfield, CA
Mail to this address from the list. is being bounced. If you know this
person let them know.
jamyers(a)tstar.net
Melissa Thompson Alexander
www.familytreemaker.com/users/a/l/e/Melissa-T-Alexander/
listowner: CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com; KRUTSINGER-L(a)rootsweb.com
Edmonds, WA USA
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:50:46 EDT
From: Pence234(a)aol.com
To: rjones(a)charweb.org
Subject: Re: Cecil Biography
In a message dated 10/18/98 9:11:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
rjones(a)charweb.org writes:
<< worth,
>which the public is not slow in recognizing, as well as from
>distinguished family connections, he being a direct descendant
of Sir
>Robert Cecil, who was an exile from England on account of
religion, and
>who first settled Cecil County, Md. >>
Hi Randy et al: This isn't in my line and I can't help...but the above tidbit
is of interest. Never heard of Sir Robert being an exile. He was a fanatical
Protestant anyway....and still can't find us in Cecil County (except for some
cryptic hints that Samuel Cecil's sons MAY have been born in Elkton, Cecil
County; and the fact that Samuel leased land from a Mr. Bordley...who was of
Elkton, Cecil County.)
Just a thought!! Penny
Thank you Donna for sharing your continuing Cecil research with us.
Melissa Thompson Alexander
www.familytreemaker.com/users/a/l/e/Melissa-T-Alexander/
listowner: CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com; KRUTSINGER-L(a)rootsweb.com
Edmonds, WA USA
No, I kinda had the two names confused. You and Pat Place helped me
straighten it out. Thanks.
Melissa Thompson Alexander
www.familytreemaker.com/users/a/l/e/Melissa-T-Alexander/
listowner: CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com; KRUTSINGER-L(a)rootsweb.com
Edmonds, WA USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Jones [mailto:rjones@charweb.org]
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 1998 8:57 AM
To: CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: Sarah Mattingly who married Lewis Cissell
Melissa
- I have Sarah's parents as Joseph MATTINGLY and Sarah BREWER.
I do not have her siblings.
- Randy
-----Original Message-----
From: Don & Melissa Alexander <mada(a)cmc.net>
To: CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com <CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Saturday, October 17, 1998 11:11 PM
Subject: Sarah Mattingly who married Lewis Cissell
>Carol
>Who were the parents and sibs of the Sarah (Louisa?) Mattingly
who married
>Lewis Cissell?
>
>Melissa Thompson Alexander
>www.familytreemaker.com/users/a/l/e/Melissa-T-Alexander/
>listowner: CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com; KRUTSINGER-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Edmonds, WA USA
>
>
I believe (correct me if I am wrong) that this is James S. Cissell, b c
1790, m to Elizabeth Edelen. He is the son of James Rodolph Cissell and
Mary Ann Stewart. James Rodolph is the son of Ignatius Cissell and
Elizabeth ?. Ignatius is the son of James Cissell and Margaret Vowels.
James is the son of James Cissell and Rachel Adams (I have no clue on
Rachel's parents other than her mother was a Melton), This James was the
son of John Baptist Cissell (the immigrant) and Mary Shircliffe. Elizabeth
Edelen was the daughter of Joseph Edelen and Catherine Wathen.
Melissa Thompson Alexander
www.familytreemaker.com/users/a/l/e/Melissa-T-Alexander/
listowner: CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com; KRUTSINGER-L(a)rootsweb.com
Edmonds, WA USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Jones [mailto:rjones@charweb.org]
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 1998 9:12 AM
To: CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: Cecil Biography
Does anyone know to which James S. CISSEL they refer?
- Randy Jones
-----Original Message-----
From: Donna Van Zandt <donavan(a)netins.net>
To: CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com <CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Friday, October 16, 1998 4:35 PM
Subject: Cecil Biography
>
>
>
>BIOGRAPHICAL AND HISTORICAL MEMOIRS OF NORTHEAST ARKANSAS
>The Goodspeed Publishing Company
>1889
>
>pg.. 482-483
>
>A.L. Cissell. Among the representative members of this county
none
>are more favorably known or more highly respected than the
>above-mentioned gentleman. His prominence arises from personal
worth,
>which the public is not slow in recognizing, as well as from
>distinguished family connections, he being a direct descendant
of Sir
>Robert Cecil, who was an exile from England on account of
religion, and
>who first settled Cecil County, Md. Mr. Cissell was born in Barr
>Township, Daviess County, Ind., in 1844, and is the son of J.A.
Cissell,
>who came with his father, James S. Cissell, from Nelson County,
Ky.,
>when a boy, and settled in Indiana. Here James A. Cissell
changed his
>name from Cecil to Cissell, and so it has since been continued
by the
>Kentucky branch of the descendants. A.L. Cissell was reared at
>Loogootee, Ind., until eighteen years of age, and upon the
bursting of
>the war cloud which had hovered above the country for so long a
time, he
>enlisted in the Fifty-second Indiana Volunteer Infantry, and
served four
>years, taking part in the campaign from Fort Donelson to
Mississippi, or
>Harrisburg, where in 1864 he was severely wounded. He was then
sent to
>the Overton Hospital in Memphis, and from there home on a
furlough. In
>August 1864, he returned to the regiment at Jefferson Barracks,
Mo., and
>was afterward in a fight at Franklin, Mo., with Gen. Price.
After this
>he was put in charge of the wounded and sent to the marine
hospital at
>St. Louis, where he remained for some time, later going home to
vote.
>Subsequently he rejoined his regiment at St. Louis, just from
the raid
>after Gen. Price in Missouri, and from there accompanied it to
>Nashville, Tenn., although classed as noncombatant, owing to the
wound
>in his right shoulder. He was sent to the hospital, and rejoined
his
>regiment at Montgomery, Ala., just prior to being mustered out
at
>Indianapolis, Ind., in September, 1865. Mr. Cissell then
returned to
>Loogootee, Ind., where he rented land of his father, and was
there
>united in marriage to Miss Sarah C. Brown, daughter of Felix
Brown, of
>Loogootee. In 1869, in company with his father and brother, Mr.
Cissell
>made a prospecting tour to Mississippi, County, Ark., and there
bought
>218 acres of land, while his father bought 160 acres, mostly
timber
>land. The next year they brought their families and settled on
land
>situated on Carson's Lake, about six miles southwest of Osceola,
where
>he cleared some 200 acres. There A.L. Cissell remained until
1879, when
>he engaged in mercantile business at Osceola, and continued in
this for
>two years, when he sold out at a loss of $13,000. After paying
every
>cent he was left in debt to the amount of $928 which, in 1884,
he
>managed to place in the hands of one man. He then resumed
agriculture
>pursuits, and is now the owner of 505 acres, with 165 under
>cultivation. In 1888 he was a candidate for sheriff of
Mississippi
>County, but was defeated, owing to the fact that he left the
field in
>the heat of the contest to undergo the most trying ordeal which
can
>befall a man, the loss of a true and loving wife. She died July
9,
>1888, leaving three children: Maggie is Mrs. O.W. Stacey, and
now lives
>on a farm near her father's; Nora is the wife of J.H. Meyers,
whose
>sketch appears elsewhere in this volume, and Tilden is at home.
Mr.
>Cissell is a member of the A. O. U. W., located at Osceola, and
is a
>member of the Catholic Church, as was also his wife, who died in
that
>faith, holding membership in the church of St. Mathew, at
Osceola.
>
>
Does anyone know to which James S. CISSEL they refer?
- Randy Jones
-----Original Message-----
From: Donna Van Zandt <donavan(a)netins.net>
To: CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com <CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Friday, October 16, 1998 4:35 PM
Subject: Cecil Biography
>
>
>
>BIOGRAPHICAL AND HISTORICAL MEMOIRS OF NORTHEAST ARKANSAS
>The Goodspeed Publishing Company
>1889
>
>pg.. 482-483
>
>A.L. Cissell. Among the representative members of this county
none
>are more favorably known or more highly respected than the
>above-mentioned gentleman. His prominence arises from personal
worth,
>which the public is not slow in recognizing, as well as from
>distinguished family connections, he being a direct descendant
of Sir
>Robert Cecil, who was an exile from England on account of
religion, and
>who first settled Cecil County, Md. Mr. Cissell was born in Barr
>Township, Daviess County, Ind., in 1844, and is the son of J.A.
Cissell,
>who came with his father, James S. Cissell, from Nelson County,
Ky.,
>when a boy, and settled in Indiana. Here James A. Cissell
changed his
>name from Cecil to Cissell, and so it has since been continued
by the
>Kentucky branch of the descendants. A.L. Cissell was reared at
>Loogootee, Ind., until eighteen years of age, and upon the
bursting of
>the war cloud which had hovered above the country for so long a
time, he
>enlisted in the Fifty-second Indiana Volunteer Infantry, and
served four
>years, taking part in the campaign from Fort Donelson to
Mississippi, or
>Harrisburg, where in 1864 he was severely wounded. He was then
sent to
>the Overton Hospital in Memphis, and from there home on a
furlough. In
>August 1864, he returned to the regiment at Jefferson Barracks,
Mo., and
>was afterward in a fight at Franklin, Mo., with Gen. Price.
After this
>he was put in charge of the wounded and sent to the marine
hospital at
>St. Louis, where he remained for some time, later going home to
vote.
>Subsequently he rejoined his regiment at St. Louis, just from
the raid
>after Gen. Price in Missouri, and from there accompanied it to
>Nashville, Tenn., although classed as noncombatant, owing to the
wound
>in his right shoulder. He was sent to the hospital, and rejoined
his
>regiment at Montgomery, Ala., just prior to being mustered out
at
>Indianapolis, Ind., in September, 1865. Mr. Cissell then
returned to
>Loogootee, Ind., where he rented land of his father, and was
there
>united in marriage to Miss Sarah C. Brown, daughter of Felix
Brown, of
>Loogootee. In 1869, in company with his father and brother, Mr.
Cissell
>made a prospecting tour to Mississippi, County, Ark., and there
bought
>218 acres of land, while his father bought 160 acres, mostly
timber
>land. The next year they brought their families and settled on
land
>situated on Carson's Lake, about six miles southwest of Osceola,
where
>he cleared some 200 acres. There A.L. Cissell remained until
1879, when
>he engaged in mercantile business at Osceola, and continued in
this for
>two years, when he sold out at a loss of $13,000. After paying
every
>cent he was left in debt to the amount of $928 which, in 1884,
he
>managed to place in the hands of one man. He then resumed
agriculture
>pursuits, and is now the owner of 505 acres, with 165 under
>cultivation. In 1888 he was a candidate for sheriff of
Mississippi
>County, but was defeated, owing to the fact that he left the
field in
>the heat of the contest to undergo the most trying ordeal which
can
>befall a man, the loss of a true and loving wife. She died July
9,
>1888, leaving three children: Maggie is Mrs. O.W. Stacey, and
now lives
>on a farm near her father's; Nora is the wife of J.H. Meyers,
whose
>sketch appears elsewhere in this volume, and Tilden is at home.
Mr.
>Cissell is a member of the A. O. U. W., located at Osceola, and
is a
>member of the Catholic Church, as was also his wife, who died in
that
>faith, holding membership in the church of St. Mathew, at
Osceola.
>
>
Melissa -
I have Lewis CECIL (b.1823) below, son of Joseph CECIL & Mary Ann
MILES, as having married Louisa MATTINGLY.
I have Lewis CECIL (b.c.1784), son of Bernard Emil CECIL & Monica
PAYNE as marrying Sarah Ann MATTINGLY. Sarah Ann's prenom is
shown in a variety of forms. Am I confused over Louisa & Sarah
Ann?
- Randy Jones
-----Original Message-----
From: Don & Melissa Alexander <mada(a)cmc.net>
To: CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com <CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Saturday, October 17, 1998 11:43 AM
Subject: FW: [MATTINGLY-L] Re: Cissell in MO
>Thanks to Carol for this information
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Carol99(a)aol.com [mailto:Carol99@aol.com]
>Sent: Friday, October 16, 1998 10:30 PM
>To: MATTINGLY-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: [MATTINGLY-L] Re: Cissell in MO
>
>Don't know if anyone has this data form "Pioneer Families of MO"
by Lucas.
>Cissell, Joseph & wife Mary Ann (Miles), came from KY & settled
at Perry Co,
>MO 1803. They had 5 ch: son 1) Vincent Cissell m Caroline French
& had 8 ch.
>son 2) Lewis Cissell m Sarah Mattingly & had 9 ch, known listed
below:
>1) John V m Melissa Brewer, m2) Theresa Brewer
>2) Loretta m Wilfred Brewer
>3) Leo F m1) Katie Frazier, m2) Louisa Brewer
>4) Emanuel m Emma Mattingly
>5) Ezekiel m Louisa Rankin
>6) Kendrick m Alice Brewer
>7) Jane F n William Difani
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- I have Sarah's parents as Joseph MATTINGLY and Sarah BREWER.
I do not have her siblings.
- Randy
-----Original Message-----
From: Don & Melissa Alexander <mada(a)cmc.net>
To: CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com <CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Saturday, October 17, 1998 11:11 PM
Subject: Sarah Mattingly who married Lewis Cissell
>Carol
>Who were the parents and sibs of the Sarah (Louisa?) Mattingly
who married
>Lewis Cissell?
>
>Melissa Thompson Alexander
>www.familytreemaker.com/users/a/l/e/Melissa-T-Alexander/
>listowner: CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com; KRUTSINGER-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Edmonds, WA USA
>
>
Carol
Who were the parents and sibs of the Sarah (Louisa?) Mattingly who married
Lewis Cissell?
Melissa Thompson Alexander
www.familytreemaker.com/users/a/l/e/Melissa-T-Alexander/
listowner: CECIL-L(a)rootsweb.com; KRUTSINGER-L(a)rootsweb.com
Edmonds, WA USA
Thanks to Carol for this information
-----Original Message-----
From: Carol99(a)aol.com [mailto:Carol99@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, October 16, 1998 10:30 PM
To: MATTINGLY-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [MATTINGLY-L] Re: Cissell in MO
Don't know if anyone has this data form "Pioneer Families of MO" by Lucas.
Cissell, Joseph & wife Mary Ann (Miles), came from KY & settled at Perry Co,
MO 1803. They had 5 ch: son 1) Vincent Cissell m Caroline French & had 8 ch.
son 2) Lewis Cissell m Sarah Mattingly & had 9 ch, known listed below:
1) John V m Melissa Brewer, m2) Theresa Brewer
2) Loretta m Wilfred Brewer
3) Leo F m1) Katie Frazier, m2) Louisa Brewer
4) Emanuel m Emma Mattingly
5) Ezekiel m Louisa Rankin
6) Kendrick m Alice Brewer
7) Jane F n William Difani
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BIOGRAPHICAL AND HISTORICAL MEMOIRS OF NORTHEAST ARKANSAS
The Goodspeed Publishing Company
1889
pg.. 482-483
A.L. Cissell.������ Among the representative members of this county none
are more favorably known or more highly respected than the
above-mentioned gentleman.� His prominence arises from personal worth,
which the public is not slow in recognizing, as well as from
distinguished family connections, he being a direct descendant of Sir
Robert Cecil, who was an exile from England on account of religion, and
who first settled Cecil County, Md.� Mr. Cissell was born in Barr
Township, Daviess County, Ind., in 1844, and is the son of J.A. Cissell,
who came with his father, James S. Cissell, from Nelson County, Ky.,
when a boy, and settled in Indiana.� Here James A. Cissell changed his
name from Cecil to Cissell, and so it has since been continued by the
Kentucky branch of the descendants.� A.L. Cissell was reared at
Loogootee, Ind., until eighteen years of age, and upon the bursting of
the war cloud which had hovered above the country for so long a time, he
enlisted in the Fifty-second Indiana Volunteer Infantry, and served four
years, taking part in the campaign from Fort Donelson to Mississippi, or
Harrisburg, where in 1864 he was severely wounded.� He was then sent to
the Overton Hospital in Memphis, and from there home on a furlough.� In
August 1864, he returned to the regiment at Jefferson Barracks, Mo., and
was afterward in a fight at Franklin, Mo., with Gen. Price.� After this
he was put in charge of the wounded and sent to the marine hospital at
St. Louis, where he remained for some time, later going home to vote.�
Subsequently he rejoined his regiment at St. Louis, just from the raid
after Gen. Price in Missouri, and from there accompanied it to
Nashville, Tenn., although classed as noncombatant, owing to the wound
in his right shoulder.� He was sent to the hospital, and rejoined his
regiment at Montgomery, Ala., just prior to being mustered out at
Indianapolis, Ind., in September, 1865.� Mr. Cissell then returned to
Loogootee, Ind., where he rented land of his father, and was there
united in marriage to Miss Sarah C. Brown, daughter of Felix Brown, of
Loogootee.� In 1869, in company with his father and brother, Mr. Cissell
made a prospecting tour to Mississippi, County, Ark., and there bought
218 acres of land, while his father bought 160 acres, mostly timber
land.� The next year they brought their families and settled on land
situated on Carson's Lake, about six miles southwest of Osceola, where
he cleared some 200 acres.� There A.L. Cissell remained until 1879, when
he engaged in mercantile business at Osceola, and continued in this for
two years, when he sold out at a loss of $13,000.� After paying every
cent he was left in debt to the amount of $928 which, in 1884, he
managed to place in the hands of one man.� He then resumed agriculture
pursuits, and is now the owner of 505 acres, with 165 under
cultivation.� In 1888 he was a candidate for sheriff of Mississippi
County, but was defeated, owing to the fact that he left the field in
the heat of the contest to undergo the most trying ordeal which can
befall a man, the loss of a true and loving wife.� She died July 9,
1888, leaving three children:� Maggie is Mrs. O.W. Stacey, and now lives
on a farm near her father's;� Nora is the wife of J.H. Meyers, whose
sketch appears elsewhere in this volume, and Tilden is at home.� Mr.
Cissell is a member of the A. O. U. W., located at Osceola, and is a
member of the Catholic Church, as was also his wife, who died in that
faith, holding membership in the church of St. Mathew, at Osceola.
�
Hi group....
My mother and I are documenting this thread of the Cecil
line. We'd be delighted to know of others who are looking
in the same direction.
Peter Yoakum
eChannel, Inc.
Seattle, Washington
206 727 2702
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Direct Descendants of Samuel W Cecil
1 Samuel W Cecil b: March 23, 1720/21 d: March 28, 1786
.. +Rebecca White b: August 20, 1723 d: March 16, 1815
..... 2 Thomas Cecil b: September 3, 1756 d: August 20, 1823
......... +Nancy Grayson b: August 12, 1763 d: September 14, 1814
............ 3 [3] Rebecca Cecil b: July 13, 1789 d: November 3, 1862
................ +[2] John Cecil b: December 25, 1785 d: February 25, 1872
................... 4 [1] Samuel Finley Cecil b: August 3, 1812 d:
February 28, 1860
................... *2nd Wife of [1] Samuel Finley Cecil:
....................... +[4] Elizabeth W. McMurray b: February 28, 1829 d:
1898
.......................... 5 [5] Joseph Finley Cecil b: November 12, 1849
d: October 18, 1942
.............................. +[6] Harriet Florence Parkhurst b: August
22, 1860 d: February 1933
................................. 6 [7] Kirk Parkhurst Cecil b: January
30, 1887 d: July 30, 1966
..... 2 Zachariah Cecil b: 1764-1766 d: August 20, 1823
......... +Nancy Ingram b: 1765 d: 1833
............ 3 [2] John Cecil b: December 25, 1785 d: February 25, 1872
............ *2nd Wife of [2] John Cecil:
................ +[3] Rebecca Cecil b: July 13, 1789 d: November 3, 1862
................... 4 [1] Samuel Finley Cecil b: August 3, 1812 d:
February 28, 1860
................... *2nd Wife of [1] Samuel Finley Cecil:
....................... +[4] Elizabeth W. McMurray b: February 28, 1829 d:
1898
.......................... 5 [5] Joseph Finley Cecil b: November 12, 1849
d: October 18, 1942
.............................. +[6] Harriet Florence Parkhurst b: August
22, 1860 d: February 1933
................................. 6 [7] Kirk Parkhurst Cecil b: January
30, 1887 d: July 30, 1966
Samuel CECIL, son of Benjamin Sollers Cecil and his wife, Priscilla Cecil, was
married to Jane Chrisman, daughter of Isaac and Judy (Walling) Chrisman, in
1806 in Wayne Co., KY. They later are found in Morgan Co., TN for some time
before returning to Wayne Co., KY by 1850. I'd like to correspond with anyone
researching their family. Your response is appreciated.
C. Ward
CMW12635(a)aol.com
On checking further I have completely detached James E. Cissel from all parents
and he is floating out there in Family Tree Maker Cyberspace.� I suspect from
census that Bennet would be a good candidate for his father.� The early census
shows Bennet had children the right age to have a male James E. born 1814 and a
Teresa born cir. 1813.� However, there are so many unknowns that there are
several more that would fit.
1820 Union co. Ky Cissell, Elias�� 3 m und 10, 2 m 10-16, 1 m 16-18, 1 m 16-26,
1 m 26-45, 1 f und 10, 1 f 10-16, 1 f 26-45
1820 Wash. Co. Ky� Cissoll, Ben (Bennett?) 2 m 10-16, 1 m 45+, 5 f und 10, 1 f
10-16, 1 f 26-45
1830 Wash. Co. Ky�� Cissell, Bennett 1 m 20-30, 1 m 50-60, 1 f 10-15
1830 Union Co. Ky Cissle, Elias 1 m und 5, 1 m 40-50, 3 f 5-10, 1 f 10-15, 1 f
15-20
�
�
gary tennill wrote:
> Donna,
> I finally found my James Raphael Cissell.� He is the son of James E. and
> Elizabeth Cissell.� I found his brothers and sisters also. Elizabeth,
> Thomas, Rosella, Sarah and Mary.� Do you have any more on this family????
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donna Van Zandt <donavan(a)netins.net>
> To: Gary Tennill <garytennill(a)email.msn.com>
> Cc: Jim Cissel <dorothy(a)montana.com>; Don & Melissa Alexander <mada(a)cmc.net>
> Date: Saturday, April 25, 1998 9:44 PM
> Subject: James Raphael Cissel
>
> >Hello, I received a cc from Melissa on your line.� You have James
> >Raphael Cissel born 1843 and married 1854.� did you mean married 1864?
> >He would only be eleven.� I show� the following in my database:
> >James R. born abt Aug 1845 probably Nelson Co. Ky son of Hilary and
> >Henrietta Reid.
> >James born cir.1843 to James and Martha Dinkims in Daviess co. Ind.
> >James R. born abt. 1843 probably in Marion co. Ky to James E. and
> >Elizabeth
> >I only have a part of my info in the database.� Do you have a state for
> >birth?� or any other information like where he lived?� Donna
> >
>1840 Marion co. Kentucky
>James Cissel� 1m 30-40, 1 f 0-5,� 2 f 20-30
>You can see he is probably newly married here.� I cannot find a marriage
>record for him.� It seems it would be a marriage cir 1835 in Kentucky
>for an E. or James to an Elizabeth.� The IGI says his wife was an
>Elizabeth Lancaster so there may be a record somewhere giving this as
>her maiden name but I have never seen it.� (IGI dau Lucinda born to
>James E. and Elizabeth Lancaster 19 June 1851 at Marion, Loretto Holy
>Cross Catholic Parish� submitted 1979/80)
>
>1850 Marion co. Ky.Census
>James E. Cissel 44 farmer born Ky
>Elizabeth 33� Ky
>Elizabeth 11 Ky
>Thomas B. 9 Ky
>James R. 7 Ky
>Rosella 5 Ky
>Sarah A. 3 Ky
>Mary 6/12 Ky
>Troca Cissel 37 Ky
>William D. Walker 21 Ky
>( obviously the biggest clue here is the Troca or Teresa here. Probably
>an unmarried sister? )
>
>1860 Marion co. Ky
>James E. Cicel 54 Ky
>Elizabeth 40 Ky
>Ellen 21 Ky
>Thomas 19
>James 17
>Rose 15
>Sarah 13
>Mary 11
>Lucinda 9
>Amanda 7
>Catherine 5
>Josephine 2
>
>1870 Marion co. Ky
>James Cissel 64 Ky
>Millie 58 Ky
>James R. 27
>Sallie 23
>Mary 20
>Lucy 18
>Amanda 16
>Kate 14
>Cyrene 12
>Edward 9� all b. Ky
>It looks like his wife died and he remarried cir 1865 probably Marion
>co. Ky.
>Another clue may be that he is found by Bennet Cissel who may be a
>brother.
>In 1850 census James E. is the next household after:
>1850 Marion co, Ky pg. 385
>William Lucas 37 Ky
>Ann� 45
>Bennett Cissel 53 Ky
>In� 1860 Marion co. Ky census
>
>
>
>
>Bennett Cecil� 60 farmer 400 RE, 200 PE,� b. Ky
>Teresa Cecil� 45 Ky ( is this a sister or wife?) The Troca from 1850? or
>a new wife
>William Lucas 50 Ky
>Anna Lucas 57 Ky
>Angeline Cecil 9 Ky
>Got to get something done.� Donna� I keep wondering if Bennet and John
>E.'s father is this one
>1830 Wash co. Ky
>Bennett Cissell 1m 20-30, 1 m 50-60, 1 f 10-15.� Sometimes the name
>Bennett was John Bennett Cissell
>
>1820 Wash. co. Ky� ????????
>Cissoll. Ben 2 m 10-16, 1 m 45+,� 5 f und 10, 1 f 10-16, 1 f 26-45
looking at land records it looks like James S. of Daviess Co. iniana was the son
of James Rhodie and a brother to Eleazor.
On 30 Oct. 1838 (but the indenture was ack. 3 Oct. 1838, recorded 19 Oct. 1838)
James S. Cecil and Eliza his wife of Daviess Co. Indiana, heirs and
representatives of James R. Cecil decd. sold to Eleazor S. Cecil of Bullitt co.
Ky for $50, a certain 150 A. of land lying in Bullitt and Nelson Counties at the
mouth of the Spring Branch......(Lampkin)
So it looks like the James S. who married Elizabeth Edelen (and 2 other wives )
was the son of James Rhodie and depending on the land sold a brother to
Eleazor??? Lampkin shows him (Eleazor) and James S. as the sons of James
Rhodie.��� Can anyone add more or totally refute this?
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> online. It may be accessed either from New River Notes (URL
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> As usual with these old documents, there are no doubt places that the
> transcription is incorrect, it was difficult to read in places, and one
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