Thanks and keep up the great work on Caves Cove Rick. Can't wait to see
the Census information posted the way the Cave Census information is on Caves
Cove.
You might miss this one, so I'll give ya a heads up, and send it out to
the lists as well.
In the 1900 Census of Adams County, Illinois, (an area of great interest
to me personally) a A. S. Swisher or Absolom Swisher can be found, age 69,
listed as residing with his wife of 2 years, Melissa, son Orustus and
grandson Martie W. Caves born March 1888.
This Martie W. Caves is my grandfather. This has been the only Census
data I have found on him. Martie W. Caves married Beulah Estella Simmons of
Greenbush, Warren County, Illinois, Knox County Illinois in 1915. On his
marriage license, Martie W. Caves listed his parents as Merit Cave and Jennie
Swisher.
I have found a Merit Cave with wife Jennie in St. Clair and Butler County
Missouri in 1880 Census. There first son Charles A. Cave(s) born in Illinois
1878 is found in the 1880 Census, but have never found him anywhere else
after that. Merit Cave and Jennie had a child in 1880 in Brown County, but no
name was listed, so unknown if lived or died.
So from this, I take it that Merit Cave married Jennie Swisher somewhere
near Brown or Adams County in Illinois, had child in 1878 named Charles A
Caves in Illinois, had a child in 1880 in Brown County Illinois which may or
may not have lived,
and was in Black River, Butler County Missouri in 1880 for Census, listed as
being 25 years of age, with wife Jennie and son Charles A.
There is a John Caves born abt 1883, that was in the 1900 Census of Adams
or Brown County that may also be a child of this family. There is also a
Female Caves residing in a Boarding House in Adams County Census, 1900, that
may be another child of this elusive family. There is Ralf E. Caves, wife
Fern, residing in Osceola, St. Clair County, Missouri that might be family.
Martie W. Caves had a brother named Bert Caves who married a Panzie
Unknown.
There is also a sister to Martie W. Caves who resided in Attomwa Iowa, but
have no name for her. My mom thought her name was Panzie, but that may be
mistakenly as Bert's wife was Panzie, and they had children: Donna Mae and
Panzie named after her mother. One of these girls, possibly Donna Mae may
reside in Iowa today. It was said that the girls got into Motion Pictures,
according to family stories.
Interestingly enough, Martie W. Caves, wrote that he was born in Pine
Bluff Arkansas, when he filled out his marriage license. If he was born
March 1888 in Pine Bluff Arkansas, I have never found any record of that. The
March 1888 date of birth is from the 1900 Census of Adams County Illinois.
This, even though Martie W. Caves gave many different dates of birth thru his
lifetime, and family thought his birthday was April 18, 1890. He listed
himself as 23 years of age on his marriage license in 1915. Much of the
family goes by middle names, and attempted to conceal or hide themselves from
records, for what ever reason. The living family members won't speak out
about the dead, as they say it. My mother stated that my grandmother Beulah
(Simmons) Caves, tore the pages of genealogy out of the family bible and
burnt them, telling her it was nobody's business.
Somehow, this family connects to Merit Cave who married Catherine Rush
down in Kentucky and James Brown Cave. However, the Cave(s) that were around
Rock Island Illinois are also directly connected in some way. Martie W. Caves
may have had half brothers and sisters from what has been told to me by
family.
This Cave/Caves Family, moved around a great deal, as you can see.
Decendants have moved to and from California, Arizona, Iowa and other
locations, not ever really settling.
Merit Cave, born abt 1852, is related to the following information. His
father may be the Merit Cave who married Catherine Rush in Monroe Kentucky on
June 21, 1835. I believe this Gabriel below, is Merit Cave's brother.
1880 Census Butler County, Missouri
CAVE, Gabriel; Age: 41; Born: Missouri; Color: white; Relationship: head;
1850
CAVE , Jane D. ; Age: 35 ; Born: Missouri ; Color: white ; Relationship: wife
CAVE , Sarah C. ; Age: 15 ; Born: Missouri ; Color: white ; Relationship:
daughter
CAVE , John R. ; Age: 13 ; Born: Missouri ; Color: white ; Relationship: son
CAVE , Joseph A. ; Age: 10 ; Born: Missouri ; Color: white ; Relationship:
son
CAVE , Charles M. ; Age: 5 ; Born: Missouri ; Color: white ; Relationship:
son
Location: Butler Co. ; Volume: 41; E.D.: 11; Page: 19; Line: 16;
------------------------------1850 Census
Below--------------------------------------------------
CAVE, Catherine; Age: 33; Born: KY
CAVE, Gabriel; Age: 12; Born: MO;
CAVE, Martha A.; Age: 7; Born: MO
CAVE, Susan F.; Age: 6; Born: MO
CAVE, Margaret; Age: 3; Born: MO
CAVE, James R.; Age: 1; Born: MO
Location: Pettis Co., 68th Dist.; LDS Volume: 443617; Page: 112A/223; Line 24
Thomas