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Hello
I am seeking information on the ancestors or descendants of Ralf E. Cave
and Elizabeth Fern who are buried in Osceola Cemetery, in St. Clair County
Missouri.
The "E" in Ralf, may be short for Ernest.
Thomas
Hello everyone:
I have just been sent this email with a list of Caves individuals from
Butler County, resting in the Hamton/Hoffman Cemetery. This is the family I
am interested in and have been search for these past two years. I am going
to have to try and find obituaries, but, wondering if any of you have
anything on them that might help me.
Subj: Re: Butler County Mo Caves Surname
Date: 7/15/00 1:39:06 PM Central Daylight Time
From: mongo9(a)oz-online.net
Reply-to: mongo9(a)oz-online.net
To: Travelback4u(a)aol.com
your are welcome!
Hamtown/Hoffman Cem
Located on what was the Hoffman farm. This information given
on the Cave family you requested is taken from cem records
and lists on the date of burial.
Caves:
Edey A Sept. 13, 1899
Gabriel R Oct. 6, 1891
Ethal March 8, 1892
Rhoda Nov. 21, 1894
Charlie M March 5, 1897
Joseph A Nov. 26, 1899
Infant (son of John) June 18, 1907
Bell July 8, 1907
Willie June 1916
Ella, ____ of J. R. March 12, 1920
I don't find any Caves in the 1910 census and have not finished with
the 1920. Mary is posting all the Butler County census
on her site as they are being finished. Hope this helps.
Brenda
Travelback4u(a)aol.com wrote:
Hello
I am sending this to the St. Clair County, Missouri Mailing List, and
related surname lists in the hopes that somebody knows something of this
information, that might help. Even if you can provide one single piece of
the puzzle, please contact me.
Thomas
Subj: Thomas Rush of Virginia
Date: 7/14/00 4:26:38 PM Central Daylight Time
From: Travelback4u
To: dlpaal(a)juno.com
Hello there:
I just finished up revisiting your site and information on the descendants
of Thomas Rush of Virginia.
What I have been researching for over two years, is a Merit Cave who
resided in St. Clair County Missouri in 1860 Census. In St. Clair County,
Missouri, there is a marriage of Merritt H. Cave to a Mary Earles in 1861.
The Cave family members that I am researching include a Merit Cave, age 8, in
the St. Clair County Missouri 1860 Census.
Now, what I am suspecting is this. Your Merrit H. Cave married Catherine
(Kitty) Rush June 21, 1835 in Monroe County, Missouri, as shown in your
information. I found a Merrot Cave marrying a Fannie Geary on June 23, 1872
in Monroe County Missouri. I also found a Merritt H. Cave marrying a Mary
Earles on May 14, 1861 in St. Clair County, Missouri. Now, my great
grandfather, Merritt Cave, age 8, born 1852 in Missouri, was residing in St.
Clair County in the 1860 Census with sister Josephine Cave age 13, and
another sister Martha Ann Cave age 18, with Martha's husband Charles F.
Ashworth age 22, and Martha and Charles' daughter Sarah C. Ashworth 10 months
old, born October 12, 1859. Martha Ann Cave and Charles F. Ashworth (actual
name: Charles Fenton Mercer Ashworth) were married November 23, 1856 in St.
Clair County Missouri, and are raising Martha's brother and sister. It is not
known yet why Martha Ann Cave and her husband are raising Martha's brother
and sister. But I suspect that Merritt Cave is deceased, having died between
1890 and 1915 in a forest fire in the Mark Twain National Forrest. (From
Family Rumors pasted down thru the family to my mother and I).
So, your Merritt H. Cave married Catherine (Kitty) Rush on June 21, 1835
in Monroe County Missouri. They may have had children: Martha Ann Cave, born
1842, Josephine Cave born 1847 and Merrit Cave born 1852. Catherine (Kitty)
Rush may have died in child birth when Merrit was born in 1852, but such is
speculation. (Merritt H. Cave may have remarried, marrying Mary Earles on May
14, 1861, but who is Merrot Cave who married Fannie Geary on June 23, 1872
back in Monroe County, Missouri, where your Catherine (Kitty) Rush married
Merrit H. Cave)
My grandfather, Martie Caves (spelled with the s) is the son of Merritt
Cave and Jenny, who were residing in Butler County, Missouri, with their son
Charles A. Cave, age 2, born in Illinois, in the 1880 Census. (Charles A.
Cave is likely named after the man who raised him, Charles F. Ashworth)
Martie Cave is said to have been raised by grandparents (likely that of his
mother) after his father was killed in a forest fire in the Mark Twain
National Forest sometime between 1890 and 1915. Martie had a half sister
named Panzie of whom's whereabouts have not been found. Martie also had a
full blooded sister who resided somewhere in Iowa in 1954, the year Martie
died. The year I was born.
I am seeking to know anything you find out in your research about your
Merrit H. Cave, ancestors of Catherine (Kitty) Rush and their descendants.
Thomas W. Rogers
924 E. Jackson Street
Morton, Illinois 61550
travelback4u(a)aol.com
Subj: Re: [MOSTCLAI-L] 1860/St. Clair
Date: 7/14/00 7:50:58 PM Central Daylight Time
From: Travelback4u(a)aol.com
To: MOSTCLAI-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subj: Re: [MOSTCLAI-L] 1860/St. Clair
Date: 7/14/00 6:55:44 PM Central Daylight Time
From: EPERRY4616
To: Travelback4u
Thomas --
I believe that your Cave's are descended from Benjamin Cave. These Caves are
related to the Owsley's. You might like to take a look at this webpage and
see if there are any names there that you recognize.
I am from William T. Hatfield, Sr. whose brother Zachariah C.P. Hatfield
married Elizabeth Owsley. William T. Hatfield, Jr. married Lucinda Whitley
who was from Speedwell Twp., St. Clair Co. MO. All of these folks --- Caves,
Hatfields, Owsleys, Coles, Halls are related. Goodluck in your search.
<A
HREF="http://www.grin.net/~rickshay/cavescove/families/bc1ben/PS01/PS01_317.ht
m">Benjamin Cave Families</A>
<A HREF="http://home.dwave.net/~skeeter/genealogy/g0000022.html">OWSLEY.dwave
</A>
I rec'd this today and wanted to pass it along to other
Cave family researchers ... Lynna Kay
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Kelly Cave" <kaeci(a)mindspring.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 19:32:27 -0500
Hi,
My name is Kelly Cave. I was excited to find your information on Robert B. Cave. I am almost positive he the father of my great grandfather, James Strawther Cave. In the 1880 US Census for Texas, James B. Cave is listed as the father of James S. Cave in Wood Co. TX which is where James lived at the time. I do have a question, is Dicey's middle name Rebeker? On the census for that year, his wife was listed as Rebeker. If your Robert Cave turns out to be the same as mine, I would be happy to share the information on the family that I have after him. My neice and I are researching the Cave family. I would very much like to preserve the family history for the future generations.
Thank you,
Kelly Cave
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Lynna Kay Shuffield
P. O. Box 16604
Houston, Texas 77222
telephone: 713/692-4511
e-mail: friday(a)argohouston.com
My webpages:
"Milam County, Texas: List of Honor -- Individuals Who
Have Given Their Lives in the Defense of Their Country
from World War I through Vietnam"
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/2670/
County Coordinator for the San Jacinto County TXGenWeb
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/2670/SANJAC-01.htm
"Our Loose Ends" Genealogy Column by Lynna Kay Shuffield
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/2670/COLUMN-001.htm
"My Loose Ends" Family Tree Database by Lynna Kay Shuffield
http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=friday
Shuffield Racing
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/2670/PURPLE-001.htm
"USS Houston (CA-30) Crew List - 1 Mar 1942"
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/2670/crew.htm
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Hello
I am interested in discussing Martha Ann Cave, who married (Fenton Merser
Ashworth, Fenton Mercer Ashworth, Charles Fenton Mercer Ashworth) on November
23, 1856 in Speedwell Twp., St. Clair County, Missouri. I descend from her
brother Merit. Their other siblings are Josephine, and possibly a Sarah.
Also, I am looking for somebody who has researched the Cave Families of
Burlington Iowa, or who are buried in Burlington Iowa.
Thomas W. Rogers
Hello all:
I am forwarding you all this information in the hope that somebody might
have seen something or know something on this line. My mother's grandfather,
Merritt Cave is as far back as we have gotten after years of looking. She is
81, frail and would very much like to know who his parents were and where
they came from. Merrit is said to have died young, like his parents, and we
are hoping to find out something of them. Family lore passed down has
stories of a forest fire in the Mark Twain National Forest, which killed some
of the Cave Family line.
Here is information on Martha Ann Cave and Charles Ashworth:
Charles Ashworth - actual name is : Charles Fenton Mercer
Ashworth.
10/11/1850 Census - St. Clair Co., Mo., 79th District
#356-356
Ashworth, Lewis R. ,44, born Va., School Teacher,
Rev 100 (md. within the year)
Minerva ,22, " Tenn.
Cotesworth P. ,17, " Va., farmer
Fenton M. ,14, " Va.
*****************
Amelia C. ,12, " Va.
Susan K. ,10, " Mo.
Eloisa J. ,08, " "
Martha M.C. ,06, " "
Singleton C. ,04, " "
Basey, Nancy ,40, " Mexico
08/15/1860 Census - St. Clair Co., Mo., Speedwell Twp., P.O.
Howard Mill
#738-704
Ashworth, Charles F. ,22, born Va., laborer, PEV 50
*********************
Martha Ann ,18, " Mo.
CRW
Sarah C. ,10/12, born Mo.
Cave, Josephine ,13, born Mo., in school
Cave, Merit ,08, " " "
Note: This appears, from dates, that Martha Ann Cave, Sarah Cave,
Josephine Cave, and Merit Cave are all siblings. Did their parents die young,
leaving Martha Ann Cave to raise them at age of 14? This Merit Cave is my
great grandfather. There are Cave Family individuals buried in Burlington
Iowa, which, I believe are relatives, but I have not had a chance to go there
to research them yet. Hope to later this year.
Thomas
William Rogers
"
Missouri, St. Clair Co., Vital Records,
Marriages, Volumes A-E
Volume A, Page 14
This is to certify that I did Solemnise the
writes of Matrimony between Charles Mercer Ashworth and Martha Ann Cave on
the 23rd day of November A.D. 1856 in St. Clair County State of Missouri
this the 5th day of February A.D. 1857.
John M. Elkins J P
Filed for record February the 5th 1857
James M. Beck Recorder
Lewis Richard Ashworth was a plantation and slave owner and later a teacher
and preacher. It is said that he was shot by the Kansas Red Legs because he
would not tell where his sons were, while living in Osceola, Mo. At the
time of his death, ca. 1865, his family was close together, but after the
Civil War and between 1866-1870, the children in this family seemed to
scatter and lived with other families. Also, it seems possible that the
first nine or more children (13 in all) had three given names. While
living in Virginia this family was using one particular given name and
continued to use it up to 1865 or 1870. After this it seems the entire
family started using a different given name. This is showing up in
documents, census records and just recently (1988) descendants of Lewis
Richard Ashworth. The story about Lewis and the Kansas Red Legs, has not
been proven as of yet, but it is still being worked on. This family has
been extremely hard to research, as they do not want to stay in one place.
What may be of interest to you, Lewis and family left Va. between 1838 &
1840 going to Rives Co., Mo.(which became Henry Co., Mo. 10/15/1841) and
later his location fell within the boundaries of St. Clair Co., Mo. Lewis
and family were in Monegan Township, Rives Co., in 1840. He is also noted,
without moving, as being one of the early settlers in Cedar Co., Mo. which
was formed from Dade Co & St. Clair Co., in 1845.
Charles married Martha Ann Cave and they had at least one child-Sarah
C. Josephine and Merit and Martha Ann Cave - seems to me to be
brothers/sisters. The above Records are from the actual Census Records on
Microfilm and read by me. I will get back to you after I look into a few
other things about this family.
-- Please forward this to anyone you think might be
interested --
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I will be going to Milam Co., TX on Saturday, July 8th
to the Hurt-Graham Cemetery in Milano ...
The purpose of this trip is to install two (2) Confederate
gravemarkers we rec'd for Wayne CAVE and F. M. (Francis
Marion) CAVE, sons of Henry W. CAVE ... the brothers died
during the Battle of Glorietta Pass campain near Santa Fe,
NM ... they were buried in mass graves and therefore are
classified as non-recoverable ... we were able to get
the two gravemarkers free from the Veteran's Adm. because
of their military service ... they are "In Memory" markers
...
We will be leaving Houston early Sat morning and driving
up ... we hope to be there by 10am ... if you need direction,
please let me know ...
Additionally, I will be bringing paperwork to take an
inventory/census of the cemetery to prepare the
application for designation as a "Texas Historic
Cemetery" by the Texas Historical Commission ... if
you'd like to learn how to do this, come by and check
out the process ... we'll also be cleaning some of
the older Cave Family gravemarkers ...
If you come by, be sure and bring a hat, bug spray,
camera, sun screen ... we'll have enough food for everyone
for lunch, cold drinks, and water ...
Lynna Kay
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Lynna Kay Shuffield
P. O. Box 16604
Houston, Texas 77222
telephone: 713/692-4511
e-mail: friday(a)argohouston.com
My webpages:
"Milam County, Texas: List of Honor -- Individuals Who
Have Given Their Lives in the Defense of Their Country
from World War I through Vietnam"
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/2670/
County Coordinator for the San Jacinto County TXGenWeb
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/2670/SANJAC-01.htm
"Our Loose Ends" Genealogy Column by Lynna Kay Shuffield
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/2670/COLUMN-001.htm
"My Loose Ends" Family Tree Database by Lynna Kay Shuffield
http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=friday
Shuffield Racing
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/2670/PURPLE-001.htm
"USS Houston (CA-30) Crew List - 1 Mar 1942"
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/2670/crew.htm
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from the Mobile Register, Sunday June 25, 2000, p.6E
CAVE-Eckert Wedding
Mary Susan Eckert (27) and Dr. Luther Davenport CAVE (29) were married at
Spring Hill Baptist Church. The Rev. Terry Richey performed the ceremony.
Parents of the bride are Mr. and Mrs. Francis Robert Eckert of West
Virginia. The bridegroom is the son of Mr. and Mrs. Luther Wayne CAVE.
Given in marriage by her father, the bride chose Sally Higginbotham and
Katie Eckert as maids of honor. Also attending the bride were Joy CAVE,
Melissa Green, Lisa Hinajosa, Jessica Upton of Collins, MS, Rebecca Eckert,
Andrea Eckert, and
Emma Eckert. The bridegroom was attended by his father as best man. The
groomsmen were the bridegroom's brother, Vince CAVE, Sr., Dr. Brian Green,
John Luce, Clint Hill, Jason McCormick, Rex Morgan, Jimmy Higginbotham of
Birmingham, AL, Lane Upton of Collins, MS and Mike Fuquay of New York City.
Lauren Michelle CAVE was flower girl. Vincent Wayne CAVE, Jr. was a ring
bearer. Ushers were Jay Manning, Vincent Eckert and Francis Eckert, Jr.
A reception was held at the Country Club of Mobile. Following a honeymoon
in the Cayman Islands, the couple will reside in Mobile.