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This is a reposting from sometime ago about CATO/CATES/CATE in
South Carolina before 1790-1800. Has anyone identified the wife and
children of this Joseph Cate on the Wateree in what became Fairfield
District, South Carolina. Was he an immigrant from overseas on a ship
to Charleston or did he come by land or by ship from another colony?
Any guesses as to his country of origin?
He seems a very likely candidate for the father of my husband's
Thomas Cate/Cates died in Edgefield District, South Carolina, before
April, 1794. Was he the same or a different man from Thomas
Cates/Cate/Cato who was a justice of the the peace in Orangeburg area
and shows up on some deeds. Our Cates lived in the Cloud's/Cloudy Creek
area of Edgefield that was later formed into Saluda County from
Edgefield after the Civil War.
Any suggestions appreciated. Trying to get organized for research
trip later this year. Please reply before Sunday, May16th, as I will be
unsubscribing and later resubscribing at a new e-mail address. ISP
going out of business, bought out or something.
New address will be vcates(a)ballistic.net
Vivian T. Cates, Rt. #2 Box 52-A, Alto, Texas, 75925 1-409-858-3801
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Subject: CATES-CATO-CATES S.C. bef. 1800
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Wish to hear from anyone on either the CATE-L or CATO-L who is
researching or has references to any family in up country South Carolina
whose surname spelling could even remotely be connected to my husband's
Cate/Cates/Kates and other spellings with one or two "O's." By the 1790
census his Cates/Cate/Kates were located in the Cloud's Creek area on
the west side of the Saluda River. This area was formerly 96 Dist.,
then Edgefield Dist. and is in the eastern part of Edgefield
District/County that later fell into Saluda County, South Carolina.
Also what is the URL for the CATO WEB page by ppalmer? I changed
computers and lost my url bookmarks. That is one I did not get reset.
After over 30 years of being stuck on a brick wall, we may have just
cracked my husband's Cates lineage. They may have been immigrants into
South Carolina about 1750 instead of migrating down from North Carolina.
This is a posting from the CATO-L by MOM & MEG bpalmer(a)bihs.net,
Thur. Aug. 8, 1998.
" From: Petitions for Land from SC Council Journals. Meeting of
Tuesday A.M. 6 March 1749-50. The humble petition of Joseph CATE
setting forth That your Pet'r is a Setler on the Watrees and hath a
Family Consisting of 8 persons that is to say himself, his wife, and 6
children for whom he has never yet has had any Land or Warrent of Survey
Granted him & being now desirous of Cultivating & improving some of his
majestys Vacant Land on the Wateree Creek, prays to grant him an order
for laying out 400 acres of Land on Wateree Creek, prays to grant an
order for laying out 400 acres of Land on Watree Creek as aforesaidl
The prayer there of was granted."
Tyler, Texas, library does not have this book by Brent Holcomb, but
has other volumes of his Council Journal series. Have not checked in
Lufkin, Texas, library for this volume, yet. But did find out that
these grants were reserved for immigrants to colony. Does the above
mean that he has just gotten off a ship in Charleston with just his
family or with a group or that he has been on Wateree for sometime and
was now getting title to some land he had already settled or had be been
a squatter for sometime? The Wateree section was Fredericksburgh (sp?)
Township, one of the original 11 townships authorized for settlement to
immigrants to the colony in the 1730's. Fredericksburgh eventually
became present day Camden, Kershaw, South Carolina, which is only about
50-60 miles east of where Cates families were on the 1790 census of
Edgefield District.
Taking the information from the August posting by Mrs. Palmer this
Joseph's family might have looked something like this if it were all an
original family with ages in round figures of a few years each way.
They would probably have married in the "old country" at about ages 20
for Joseph and at least 15 for his wife and figuring 6 children in 1749
born at about two year apart. From family traditon of "Norfolk" which
present day family took to be Virginia, could very well be Norfolk,
England?
Again these are rough guesses. Joseph b. c. 1710-15 wife b.c.
1715-1720 married c. 1735 depending on ages and early or late
marriage. Children: 1) b. c. 1736 2) b. c. 1738 3) b. c.
1740 4) b. c. 1742 5) b. c. 1744 6) b.c. 1746 Of course
there could have been some infant deaths. This speculation gives a
frame of reference for this Joseph Cate's family.
Joseph has been a traditional name in the Cates family to the
present day in my husband's line. We have estimated the birth date for
Thomas Cates that died in Edgefield District, South Carolina, before
April, 1794, as about at least 1735-6 which dates would very well fit
him as a possible older son of this Joseph above. There was also an
early Thomas Cate/Cato/Cates seen as a justice of the peace/magistrate
in the Orangeburgh area on at least one deed.
Would appreciated any comments on this possible lineage of the
Edgefield Cates from this Joseph Cate above. Any other possible
candidates for immigrant ancestors for Cates into South Carolina rather
than from the northern colonies? Thanks for any help in advance.
Vivian T. Cates, Rt. #2 Box 52-A, Alto, Texas 75935 1-409-858-3801
vcates(a)sosweb.net
http://www.sosweb.net/~vcates
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