This is so true and I know Bill Massey very well worked with him on my
Massey line for over 5 years. One of the best finds in his book for my
line was the fact that Arthur Massey was the son of John Massey.
Bill sent me a copy of his book before it was released lost of good work
in it for sure I am very thankful to his for that. He and I have one
bone of contentions and we agree to not agree. He believes that the
Elias Massey (B) 1792 is the son of Arthur and Elizabeth Massey. But we
have given him lots of proven facts that disprove this statement. We
believe the Elias (1792) was the son of Alston and first wife UNK or
Oliver. He feel my Elias (B) 1760 is the son of a unknown and no
documents to prove Alexander Massey, no proof he even lived anywhere
NC/Va as well as a very large mountain of proof this wrong. Plus
Elizabeth age when this Elias was born 54to55 and she died cir 1803 and
Arthur's death is well known 1801 no guardianship was made for this
Elias. There was a Alexander Massey in MD and did have a son Elias but
much older and died in Md. So don't get me started on this, Bill is a
friend of mine and am happy to say so, we just don't agree on this point
and that's OK.
I think in one of my earlier messages I said that Theron and I have
found mistakes in there books but it is also very funny how some take
the word Hypothesis as being the truth. Theron will be the first to say
there are some mistakes found. I will and I can say from newer research
and documents Bill has some mistakes in his book and if you find a book
that doesn't have mistakes please I want a copy ASAP. In the time frame
Judge Massey wrote the books I no from my own research data was hard to
find and incomplete when you found it. So all I can say is I take my hat
off to Judge Massey and Theron for the 4 books they gave us lots and
lots of work went into them. I the Massey researcher today would not be
as far along as they are with out this work. Thanks to Bill for the book
he wrote I no how important is research is to him and I thank him for
all the time he spent helping me and I hope what I found for him help him.
Are you sure the Artimissia Cato was not Artemisa Cato?
Donna
Cynthia Benua wrote:
These are Judge Frank A. Massey's books, I think. I have
consulted them. The Massey LIST has some very interesting comparisons and discussions of
the info found in Judge Massey's books versus the info found in the book "Massey
Genealogy 2000" released 2001 by William W. Massey of Florida. I do not have a copy
of Mr Wm Massey's book, but would like one!
Best,
Cynthia
> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 13:23:27 -0500
> From: massedixs(a)sbcglobal.net
> To: cato(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [CATO] Stepping on Toes
>
> Cynthia,
> These books are not on just one line of Massey's but on many.
> The Massey books I referred to are
> (1) My Massey Family in England
> (2) Massey on Censuses
> (3) Massey Addendum
> Donna
>
> Cynthia Benua wrote:
>
>> Hi Donna,
>>
>> No, I didn't misunderstand, no worries! I just think that we might be able to
prove at least one of Henry and Tabitha's children, 100%, with records or deeds or
something similiar. Even DNA can't do that.
>>
>>
>>
>> Know what you mean about relying on the internet.... I live in Ireland and so
rely on the internet and the kind help of many researchers who are able to visit
courthouses and Archives. Plus I have the help of a wonderful professional genealogist who
specializes in records found at the National Archives in Washington.
>>
>>
>>
>> Perhaps you would send the titles/author's name of the books on the Massey
family which your friend has written?
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Cynthia
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:34:52 -0500
>>> From: massedixs(a)sbcglobal.net
>>> To: cato(a)rootsweb.com
>>> Subject: Re: [CATO] Stepping on Toes
>>>
>>> I truly agree with what you said, I am sorry if you misunderstood what I
>>> was saying. When you said and I quote "NOT ONE PERSON male or female
>>> has been proven to be a child of Henry and Tabitha Cato That being said,
>>> I do believe there is a 99.95% probability that Burrell Cato of SC and
>>> Mississippi is a son.
>>>
>>> That to me said you were wanting 100% before you would believe he was there
son, that is why I replied the way I did.
>>> I am the one who said we can't be 100% sure of anything in Genealogy or
Life. I have learned this the hard way. I know from my own research, the last 9 years I
have had to rely on the internet and fellow researcher to do my research. I think I told
you in my first email because of my health problems back in 2001 and near death ended my
going outside of my home to research this was a hard thing to give up. So now all my
research is in my home. I am thankful for all and any persons help and what I find and
have found on the internet that aids in the truth. When I started researching well over 15
years ago, because of my mother illness and my love for history and family. I research to
remind myself and show my grandchildren and great grandchildren what our families went
through to give use what we have today. Mother was in WWII in the 11 evac. Army unit a
commanding office of Army nurses 126 under her. When she returned she had PTSD they
didn't known back then what that wa!
>>>
s !
> a!
>
>> n!
>>
>>
>>> d left to her own means. I started researching in 1984 when mother came to
live with use. She died in 1993 at the VA. hospital Dallas TX she was 100% service
connected. I feel the same as you do that earlier researcher would be very happy with the
new data we have found and if I were a betting person that they would give there eye teeth
to be researching today and as I have told many many researcher over the years if it were
not for the early researcher we wouldn't be this far along in any of our family lines.
>>> That wasn't my point I feel if you can confirm some 99.95% you are past
the point of just a probability of this person being the child or parent if we had those
odds in anything else we would jump for joy. When I was give a 60/40 chance I was down
right happy.
>>> Guess because I'm from Texas I don't word thing the same way some do
when I said step on anyone toes. It wasn't that I thought you or anyone else on the
list had a ego all I was saying was if you or anyone else are looking for 100% proof the
best way to do that is DNA and even the head of the DNA project will tell you not to count
on 100% proof of your line.
>>> My reasons for researching is for the love of genealogy and all that comes
with it. I could and have worked 12 to 14 hours a day many times, it is my second love my
first love is my family and I do the research for them also. I do agree with you on this:
>>> Past researchers were at a disadvantage in many ways. They would be
absolutely amazed at the records we can access, without even leaving our homes. I think
they would be thrilled with the opportunities we have to correct some lines, and add to
our knowledge of other lines. It's great to have forums like this, and I really think
we can eventually prove at least SOME of the children of Henry and Tabitha Cato, but only
if we keep digging around in the original records and making connections.
>>> I don't pretend that I am a guru on genealogy or for that matter
anything. I am just a person who loves research and finding family and am more then glad
to find the truth in anyway I can and where I can. In researching my Massey line I had a
wonderful man who has researched for 60 years and help write 3 books on the Massey line
with more original documents on the Massey line then you could find anywhere, and I was so
very very very lucky to have him in my life he was and still is a dear friend. A lot of my
Massey info he sent to me over the years so I don't have original records but i would
stake my life on what he says. He and I together corrected some of Judge Massey and his
research. He has told me over and over in genealogy you can never be 100% sure of
anything. DNA is the best way to confirming a person's line but again that is not
100%.
>>> I truly hope this clears up what I said earlier today and maybe you
understand me a little better an how important genealogy is to me.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cynthia Benua wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Donna writes:
>>>>
>>>> "....This is not to step on anyone toes but after living as long as
I have
>>>> and what I have been through in my life. I can say this and make no
>>>> excuses for it . I agree with your statement that we can't be 100%
sure
>>>> of anything. older research or the new research...."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Donna and List,
>>>>
>>>> I don't mean to speak for everyone on this List, but did want to say
that I don't think there's any need for anyone to worry about "stepping on
toes"..... surely we are all here to share info, to learn about the past, and to try
to put together what we can of this family history! Don't know about everyone else,
but I have no ego left after all these years of research.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think I said "we can't be 100% sure of
anything" !
>>>>
>>>> Actually, we CAN be sure of LOTS of things! My point was, past
researchers were at a disadvantage in many ways. They would be absolutely amazed at the
records we can access, without even leaving our homes. I think they would be thrilled with
the opportunities we have to correct some lines, and add to our knowledge of other lines.
It's great to have forums like this, and I really think we can eventually prove at
least SOME of the children of Henry and Tabitha Cato, but only if we keep digging around
in the original records and making connections. Which we are all doing! Thanks again,
Donna, for the deeds, and for the will of Oliver Massey.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Cynthia
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