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Bonnie,
I look forward to your research on the census records you have on
Needham. I was looking at your 1830 censuses of Missouri and Arkansas
on the Cato Home Page and the following ages are given.
Wayne Co., Mo.
Henry Cato, age 40-50
Lewis Cato, age 40-50
Richard Cato, age 40-50
Neidom Cato, age 30-40
Starling Cato, age 30-40
Conway Co., Ark.
James Cato, age 30-40
Ransom Cato, age 20-30
So in this census we have Henry, Lewis and Richard born 1780-90;
Needham and Sterling born 1790-1800 and Ransom born 1800-1810. From
the 1850 census for all but Needham and James I figure that their
birth dates were Henry (1786), Richard (1785), Lewis (1786), Needham
(1790), James (1794), Sterling Jr. (1795), Ransom (1800). The fact
that Henry and Lewis were born in the same year suggests that they
were not brothers. I select 1790 for Needham because in the 1830
census he was born 1790-1800 but in the 1840 census he was listed as
born 1780-90. So the only date of birth that would fit both censuses
is 1790. James was listed as born in 1796 in the 1850 census but I
have given him a birth date of 1794 because he sat on a jury in
Stewart Co., Tn. in 1815 and was a tax payer in Cape Girardeau Co.,
Mo in the same year suggesting he was at least 21 years old in 1815.
Henry
I just keep enjoying reading about the Cato family, of course constantly
looking for Susannah. I will yell when 'you' find her. I have looked
until my resources have run out, just following this page.
gladys
At 08:18 AM 3/21/99 -0800, you wrote:
>CATO-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 30
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>Today's Topics:
> #1 [CATO-L] Hester Deason, who was sh [Peter Benua
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> #2 [CATO-L] Hester Deason, who was sh [VHRL43A(a)prodigy.com (DR HENRY B
BR]
> #3 [CATO-L] Nathan / Needham [VHRL43A(a)prodigy.com (DR HENRY B
BR]
> #4 Re: [CATO-L] Nathan / Needham [Mom & Meg <bpalmer(a)bihs.net>]
> #5 [CATO-L] T.F.Cato, MO [Mom & Meg <bpalmer(a)bihs.net>]
> #6 Re: [CATO-L] Nathan / Needham [VHRL43A(a)prodigy.com (DR HENRY B
BR]
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>Henry,
>In your recent message, you write:
>"Henry had one son in the 1800 census, that was born 1784-1790. That was
>probably the youngest of the 3 sons that Henry had in the 1790 census... ."
>
>Have you found a census record for Henry Cato in 1790? We have not been
>able to find this record. Please let me know if you have.
>
>Also, re: Hester Deason, I suppose her obituary is incorrect when it states
>that she was born on Lynches Creek in SC. I believe her age is basically
>correct, therefore her birthdate of c 1758. So a mistake must have been
>made in her birthplace. Is Hester Deason found on the 1850 Lancaster
>County SC Census? I do not have access to this census here.
>
>Thank you,
>Cynthia
>
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>Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 16:53:12, -0500
>From: VHRL43A(a)prodigy.com (DR HENRY B BRACKIN JR)
>To: CATO-L(a)rootsweb.com
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>Subject: [CATO-L] Hester Deason, who was she?
>
>Cynthia,
>Henry Cato is not listed in the the 1790 census of Lancaster Co., SC.
>but his son William had a family that appears to me to be a
>combination of his record and Henry's record. William was a newly wed
>at the time and had only his daughter Elizabeth as a living child. I
>believe he was living with his father and the census taker put the
>wrong name down as the head of the household. The record was William
>Cato 235. Take out William's part of the family of 102 and you have
>133 for Henry.
>
>I have not looked for Hester in the 1850 census but if she died there
>in 1857, she should be in the 1850 census probably living with one of
>her children. It may be necesaay to read the whole census.
>
>Henry
>
>______________________________X-Message: #3
>Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 17:33:36, -0500
>From: VHRL43A(a)prodigy.com (DR HENRY B BRACKIN JR)
>To: CATO-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Message-Id: <199903202233.RAA11176(a)mime2.prodigy.com>
>Subject: [CATO-L] Nathan / Needham
>
>Bonnie,
>I have no problem with Nathan being a son of Sterling. In fact Nathan
>is the son I am the most sure of. He seemed to be the one who took
>care of his father in times of distress in the middle of the 1800-
>1810 decade and also in the middle of the 1810-20 decade when
>probably Sterling's wives died.
>
>The problem is, how old is Needham?
>In the 1830 census Needham was listed as 100001-1101 (30-40 yrs.),
>born 1790-1800.
>In the 1840 census Needham was listed as 23001001-020110 (50-60 yrs.),
> born 1780-90
>In the 1850 census Needham was listed as 69 years, born 1781.
>In the 1860 census Needham was listed as 60 years, born 1800.
>
>So take your pick, anywhere from 1781 to 1800. I believe he was born
>in 1790. I think he was born after the the taking of the 1790 census
>but in the 1800 census he was one of the 2 sons listed as born 1784-
>90. I think in 1800 those two were Richard and Needham and the two
>listed as born 1790-1800 were James and Sterling. I think that Nathan
>and Lewis had already left home in 1800. Among the boys they married
>first. Placing his birth as 1790 takes a way the conflict of the 1830
>and 1840 censuses also. A person born the year of a census taking may
>in later censuses be counted in the decade before or the decade
>following. I have seen this happen time and time again. Have you read
>the 1850 and 1860 censuses or did those numbers come from an index. I
>got them from your Arkansas census records on the Cato homepage. The
>indexer is not always right as well as the census takers. In the case
>of Needham the discrepancies are unusually prominent.
>
>Henry
>
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>Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 17:33:28 -0500
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>>I think that Nathan
>> and Lewis had already left home in 1800. Among the boys they married
>> first. Placing his birth as 1790 takes a way the conflict of the 1830
>> and 1840 censuses also. A person born the year of a census taking may
>> in later censuses be counted in the decade before or the decade
>> following.
>
>According to Lewis's tombstone, he was born June 16, 1786 - Did he leave
>home at 14?
>
>I have photocopies of the census with Needham in it here at home. I'll
>double check what it looks like & let you know. It may take a day or so
>though because it's packed in the boxes I moved upstairs to the studio
>& haven't gotten unpacked & refiled yet (good excuse to get it done!).
>
>Later!
>Bonnie
>
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>Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 17:40:38 -0500
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>Subject: [CATO-L] T.F.Cato, MO
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>This was bounced back to me when the person subscribed & I'm forwarding
>it for him - please respond to him & not me!! To Don Lewis, welcome to
>the list! Please answer to:
>
>dlewis20(a)frazmtn.com
>
>
>Re. T.F.Cato, born in missouri, married to a "Cockran" moved to Oklahoma
>early 30s or 40s . Three children, Thomas,aka"TF',Abraham Lincoln,aka
>"A.L.", and Patty Marie. T.F. Cato worked as a surveyor all his life
>
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>Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 21:59:58, -0500
>From: VHRL43A(a)prodigy.com (DR HENRY B BRACKIN JR)
>To: CATO-L(a)rootsweb.com
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>Subject: Re: [CATO-L] Nathan / Needham
>
>Bonnie wrote. Lewis's tombstone has his birth as 6/16/1786. Did he
>leave home at 14 years?
>
>I would say that Lewis may have been living with Nathan in 1800. We
>do not have him in the 1800 census so we can not be sure. I doubt
>that Lewis was married in 1800. Nathan had a habit of having brothers
>live with him. Claiborn and Sterling lived with him until they were
>grown and married. In 1820 besides his own children it appears that
>Claiborn, Sterling, 1 sister and 2 (?) half sisters were living with
>Nathan.
>
>Henry
>
Bonnie wrote. Lewis's tombstone has his birth as 6/16/1786. Did he
leave home at 14 years?
I would say that Lewis may have been living with Nathan in 1800. We
do not have him in the 1800 census so we can not be sure. I doubt
that Lewis was married in 1800. Nathan had a habit of having brothers
live with him. Claiborn and Sterling lived with him until they were
grown and married. In 1820 besides his own children it appears that
Claiborn, Sterling, 1 sister and 2 (?) half sisters were living with
Nathan.
Henry
This was bounced back to me when the person subscribed & I'm forwarding
it for him - please respond to him & not me!! To Don Lewis, welcome to
the list! Please answer to:
dlewis20(a)frazmtn.com
Re. T.F.Cato, born in missouri, married to a "Cockran" moved to Oklahoma
early 30s or 40s . Three children, Thomas,aka"TF',Abraham Lincoln,aka
"A.L.", and Patty Marie. T.F. Cato worked as a surveyor all his life
Bonnie,
I have no problem with Nathan being a son of Sterling. In fact Nathan
is the son I am the most sure of. He seemed to be the one who took
care of his father in times of distress in the middle of the 1800-
1810 decade and also in the middle of the 1810-20 decade when
probably Sterling's wives died.
The problem is, how old is Needham?
In the 1830 census Needham was listed as 100001-1101 (30-40 yrs.),
born 1790-1800.
In the 1840 census Needham was listed as 23001001-020110 (50-60 yrs.),
born 1780-90
In the 1850 census Needham was listed as 69 years, born 1781.
In the 1860 census Needham was listed as 60 years, born 1800.
So take your pick, anywhere from 1781 to 1800. I believe he was born
in 1790. I think he was born after the the taking of the 1790 census
but in the 1800 census he was one of the 2 sons listed as born 1784-
90. I think in 1800 those two were Richard and Needham and the two
listed as born 1790-1800 were James and Sterling. I think that Nathan
and Lewis had already left home in 1800. Among the boys they married
first. Placing his birth as 1790 takes a way the conflict of the 1830
and 1840 censuses also. A person born the year of a census taking may
in later censuses be counted in the decade before or the decade
following. I have seen this happen time and time again. Have you read
the 1850 and 1860 censuses or did those numbers come from an index. I
got them from your Arkansas census records on the Cato homepage. The
indexer is not always right as well as the census takers. In the case
of Needham the discrepancies are unusually prominent.
Henry
>I think that Nathan
> and Lewis had already left home in 1800. Among the boys they married
> first. Placing his birth as 1790 takes a way the conflict of the 1830
> and 1840 censuses also. A person born the year of a census taking may
> in later censuses be counted in the decade before or the decade
> following.
According to Lewis's tombstone, he was born June 16, 1786 - Did he leave
home at 14?
I have photocopies of the census with Needham in it here at home. I'll
double check what it looks like & let you know. It may take a day or so
though because it's packed in the boxes I moved upstairs to the studio
& haven't gotten unpacked & refiled yet (good excuse to get it done!).
Later!
Bonnie
Cynthia,
Henry Cato is not listed in the the 1790 census of Lancaster Co., SC.
but his son William had a family that appears to me to be a
combination of his record and Henry's record. William was a newly wed
at the time and had only his daughter Elizabeth as a living child. I
believe he was living with his father and the census taker put the
wrong name down as the head of the household. The record was William
Cato 235. Take out William's part of the family of 102 and you have
133 for Henry.
I have not looked for Hester in the 1850 census but if she died there
in 1857, she should be in the 1850 census probably living with one of
her children. It may be necesaay to read the whole census.
Henry
Henry,
In your recent message, you write:
"Henry had one son in the 1800 census, that was born 1784-1790. That was
probably the youngest of the 3 sons that Henry had in the 1790 census... ."
Have you found a census record for Henry Cato in 1790? We have not been
able to find this record. Please let me know if you have.
Also, re: Hester Deason, I suppose her obituary is incorrect when it states
that she was born on Lynches Creek in SC. I believe her age is basically
correct, therefore her birthdate of c 1758. So a mistake must have been
made in her birthplace. Is Hester Deason found on the 1850 Lancaster
County SC Census? I do not have access to this census here.
Thank you,
Cynthia
Cynthia,
You ask who was living on Lynches in 1758 who may be the father of
Hester. I say no one.
Who was living there during the Rev. War? Henry Cato.
Who were her brothers who fought in the Rev. War? Burwell, William as
well as her father Henry.
Where was she born? Not Lynches Ck. She was born in Va. Look at the
1850 census and see what that says.
Henry
I have a problem with Nathan definately being Sterling's son!
Needham was born ca 1781 as is shown in the census records in AR & the
fact that he was old enough to fight in the War of 1812 in KY - the only
census that doesn't fit is the 1830 MO one where the kids & wife match,
but Needham's age is 10 years off, probably a mistake.
This would make him 9 years old when the census was taken in 1790 &
Nathan would have been 12.
Assuming Richard & Lewis are indeed brothers & the other 2 shown on the
1790 census, where does that leave Needham / Nathan??? Needham went
into MO with the others & Nathan is the one who stayed in KY.
Also, Needham is living next door to Francis LADD in MO, (& he was
witness to Tabitha/Francis's wedding in KY) so I am assuming Needham's
the older brother of Tabitha. He then followed James into AR & lived
next door to him, so I'm assuming him to be a brother of James.
Sterling & James both patented land together in MO so I'm assuming them
to be either father/son or brothers (according to which Sterling patents
the land!)
Will look over the rest tomorrow - it's the wee hours of the a.m. & I'm
about to upload the Cato page with some updates... yawn!
Best,
Bonnie
Adruian,
I am now ready to explain why the census records do not support your
premise that Lewis, Richard, Sterling, Needham, Henry and Simeon are
all sons of Sterling. I think that the first four are sons of
Sterling but I think that Henry is a son of Henry and Simeon is a son
of Lewis.
The 1790 census lists Sterling as having 3 sons. Those 3 sons are
Nathan (b. 1778), Richard (b. 1785) and Lewis (b. 1786). There is no
room for Henry in Sterling's family. Henry had one son in the 1800
census that was born 1784-90. That was probably the youngest of the 3
sons that Henry had in 1790 census and he is surely Henry (b. 1786)
who accompanied his father in the move to Christian Co., Ky.
Now let us address the matter of Simeon. First let us look at
Sterling's sons born 1800-1810. He had in his household in 1810 two
sons born 1800-10 and there were two in Nathan's house that were born
1800-10. Nathan only had one son born before 1810. He was Wiley C.
Cato. The other male in Nathan's home born 1800-10 was Claiborne
Henry Cato. We have two sons left that were in Sterling's household.
We have Ransom and William Wiat to place in the family. I think they
were the two in Sterlings's home. William Wiat in 1820 and 1830 had a
male born 1810-15 and a female born 1810-15 that were I think his
brother and sister that were born after 1810. So there is no room for
Simeon in Sterling's family but there is in Lewis' family.
In the 1810 census of Lancaster Co., SC., Lewis is married with a
male born 1800-10 and 2 females born 1800-10. In the 1830 and 1840
censuses he is listed as follows (actually he was dead in 1840 and it
was his widow Sarah who heads the household).
Sex 1830 1840 Name
son 1800-10 Simeon
dau. 1800-10 ?
dau. 1800-10 Arthemissa Tabitha
son 1810-15 Wiley
son 1815-20 1820-25 Chapman
dau. 1815-20 Nelly
son 1815-20 1825-30 Grandeson
son 1820-25 1825-30 Green
dau. 1825-30 1825-30 Elizabeth
dau. 1830-35 Louisa
There, in the last 8 names, we see the names of the heirs of Sarah
Cato except for Wiley who predeceased her and his two sons who
apparently did also. Why am I so sure that he was her son? The reason
for this is that Wiley's son Ranson was living with Sarah in the 1860
census. Now as you see there was a son and a daughter in Lewis's home
in both the 1810 and the 1830 censuses that were born before 1810.
Since Nathan had some of Sterling's children in his home in 1810 one
might ask why not Lewis also? Well Lewis was still down in Lancaster
Co., SC in 1810 so it is not likely that he would have had some of
Sterling's children. I think Simeon and the daughter older than
Artemissa Tabitha were by a first wife of Lewis and Sarah was a
second wife. It is my guess that Sterling's first wife died about the
time of the birth of the female in Nathan's home in 1810 (Nathan had
no daughters) and Nathan and his wife took in the smaller children. I
suspect that this occurred in Ky. but it might have occurred in SC.
Then Sterling married again and started a new family by his second
wife. Then she died and Sterling left his second family also with
Nathan and moved off to Missouri with his son James and later married
a third time to Jamima Frizzell. That he left suggests to me that
Sterling was quite emotionally disturbed by having such as loss twice
in his life and just could not cope with it.
Well, what do you think? Can you tear holes in this or offer some
other solution? If there is some other solution please show it to me
because sometimes one can not see the forest for the trees.
Henry
Bonnie,
I tried several times to sent this message to the new address but
each time I am told it is an invalid address. I copied it directly
from your message and as far I can see it was copied exactly as you
wrote it.
Is this something in which one has to enter that address on the
internet and then find at place on that site to post the message?
Henry
Hello everyone,
Was looking at my records and became obsessed with Hester Deason, who is
supposedly the daughter of Henry Cato of SC.
Hester's obituary, Lancaster Ledger, Sept 9, 1857:
Says she is the widow of Edmund Deason.
That she died at the age of 99 years. ( Makes her BORN in 1757 or 1758)
She has 100 grandchildren.
"several BROTHERS who were soldiers in the Revolution"
"18 of her connections were in the late War with Mexico under Gen'l Scott"
"Born ON LYNCHES CREEK in the lower part of Lancaster District"
"member of the Baptist Church for 38 years prior to her death"
WHO was living on Lynches Creek in 1757 or 1758, who would be her father?
WHO are the "several brothers" who served in the Revolution?
WHY do we consider Hester as Henry's daughter? Henry did sell land to
Edmund Deason in 1792. No relationship stated in the deed.
One of Hester Deason's children is Wiley Deason. I have a record from who
knows where that states Wiley died in 1901 and is buried at Little Hope
Cemetary (What an honest name for a cemetary!).
Does anyone know where this cemetary is located, even what state? SC or
ALA? It seems we could look at his census records and find out where
Hester was born. Can anyone tell me where this cemetary is?
One report I have states that Hester went to Alabama with her son Wiley
sometime after 1838. She is on the 1830 Lanc Co Census (Hester 60-70, 1 m
30-40, 1 f 30-40). I do not have another record for her, but the obituary
does not say she died anywhere but right there in Lancaster.
Any thoughts on all this?
Best,
Cynthia
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Found this info on the Web. Thought it was interesting.
Cynthia
Cato
Cato is the 3,192nd most popular last name (surname) in the United States;
frequency is 0.004%; percentile is 57.795 [SourceCBN]
Cato, Arkansas, United States [Place] is in Faulkner County; location is
34°55'42"N 92°15'40"W; elevation is 325 feet [SourceGSP]
Cato, Indiana, United States [Place] is in Pike County; location is
38°26'12"N 87°11'8"W; elevation is 489 feet [SourceGSP]
Cato, Kansas, United States [Place] is in Crawford County; location is
37°40'4"N 94°44'23"W; elevation is 871 feet [SourceGSP]
Cato, Mississippi, United States [Place] is in Rankin County; location is
32°5'24"N 89°52'41"W [SourceGSP]
Cato, Missouri, United States [Place] is in Barry County; location is
36°43'15"N 93°40'48"W; elevation is 1,219 feet [SourceGSP]
Cato, New York, United States [Populated Place] is in Cayuga County;
location is 43°10'5"N 76°34'24"W [SourceGSP]
Cato, New York, United States [Village]; population was 581 in 1990;
housing units was 223 in 1990; location is 43°10'N 76°34'W; land area is
2,559,000 km^2; water area is 66,000 km^2; FIPS code is 12958 [SourceCBP]
Cato, New York, United States Postal Service Zip Code is 13033 [SourcePSZ]
Cato, Oklahoma, United States [Place] is in Kingfisher County; location is
36°8'45"N 98°1'56"W; elevation is 1,210 feet [SourceGSP]
Cato, Tennessee, United States [Place] is in Trousdale County; location is
36°23'50"N 86°2'3"W; elevation is 514 feet [SourceGSP]
Cato, Wisconsin, United States [Place] is in Manitowoc County; location is
44°8'34"N 87°51'40"W; elevation is 863 feet [SourceGSP]
Cato, Wisconsin, United States Postal Service Zip Code is 54206 [SourcePSZ]
Hi all!
I know there's already a message board at GenForum for the CATO family
so I hesitated to do this because I don't like redundancy. However,
since GenForum is now being sponsored by a commercial company which
means that at some time in the future in *might* cost to get to the info
I went ahead & set up a board at Rootsweb. This has the added advantage
of indexing the info in the Surname Helper search site - a branch of the
USGenWeb - which means more people might be able to find your info.
Hence, I'd like to invite you to post your line to the new board:
http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/cat/Cato
Thanks!
Bonnie
P.S. I currently have it set up to include both CATO & CATER (&
asscociated spellings). If someone wants to set up one specifically for
CATER, just let me know & I'll delete that one from mine & just put a
link to it from the CATO board.
Henry/Bonnie
We think the following belong to Sterling in Mo now
Lewis
Richard
Sterling
Needham
Henry
Tabitha
and now are looking very hard as placing 1805 Simeon as
a brother to the above mentioned
Adruain
Bonnie,
I agree with you that the Jemima Frizzell is surely not the daughter
of Thomas Frizzell but is probably a sister, since she was born 1770-
80 according the census. As for the Uriah Cato, I have suspected that
he was the deceased husband of the Nancy Cato in 1850 Boone Co., Mo.
census and so placed him in my outline. Since he remained in Trigg Co.
, Ky until about 1838, I have thought that he was the son of Henry
(Jr.) that was born before 1810. Henry you know remained in Trigg or
Christian Co., Ky. until about 1825. As for no son named Uriah, maybe
Uriah did not like his name. Actually many times a man has not named
a son after himself until he had had a number of sons. In the case of
one of my ancestors, it was his 7th son that was named after himself.
Perhaps Uriah died before he had gone through his other priorities of
names.
Now Adruian I need for you to name the "5 boys and one girl" you are
referring to as sons and daughter of Sterling that went to Mo. so I
can be sure who you are talking about. Are you including Henry as a
son of Sterling instead of a son of Henry (Sr.)? I will then have to
restudy the census records to see if I can place Simeon in the family.
I will get back with you. I have already concluded that Tabitha Cato
that married Francis Ladd was a daughter of Sterling. Is that the
girl you are speaking of?
Later,
Henry
Cynthia has asked me to put on the Cato homepage what she sent to me
on Francis Cato of Henrico Co., Va. It goes as follows:
What I do have on Francis Cator/Cater of Henrico Co., Va.: There are
many mentions of Francis in the Henrico records. Unfortunately all of
substance I have is that he was there as early as 1686 and late as
1697 and that he was married to Martha. I have looked for Francis'
will or something that would tell us who Martha was and whether they
had any children with no luck. I take it we are trying to establish
that the Stephen Cater family and wife Sarah, children Winnefrett,
George, Syrack, Francis and Stephen (Jr.) are children of Francis.
This is perfectly possible, makes sense, but I have not seen any
direct proof. I have seen a lot of Francis Cater because the other
line I am working on (my Fail/Faile family)is also in Henrico Co. at
the same time. However I have never seen a reference in Henrico Co.
to any Cater except Francis. None of his children pot up there. It
makes me think that he sold out and moved rather dying there.
Some Francis tidbits:
There are a series of depositions in Henrico Co Court records of 1692
regarding a problem with 2 tobacco hogsheads earmarked for delivery
from Francis to Hon. Wm. Byrd by Capt. Rudd's seamen. Francis left
the 2 hogsheads at William Basse's place for pickup. When the seamen
came to roll them away, as Henry Farmer said in his deposition, "
being in his tobacco patch drawing plants the seamen came and called
this deponent and bid this deponent come and see what they got there.
He went and one of ye men took out a bundle and asked if I thought
the bundle was rotten, who replied that he thought it was. And
further saithe not, Henry Farmer" Several other depositions relate to
this matter. I wonder what the outcome was.
An earlier problem involved Francis and his apple orchard in 1688. I
am sending this because it is so funny even though it tells us not
one thing to help us tie the lines together. The deposition of
Phillip Turpin, age 33 yrs., deposeth that when Francis Cater went to
search John Womack's house for apples ye deponent was present and
Cater telling his business showed Womack a bag of apples and said
there are the apples. Cater asked where he got them. Womack said they
were in his orchard. Then Cater went and looked at them and said they
were his apples. Womack bid him to prove it. Cator answered that he
did not__ on that and said____ brought them home the night before on
the young Smith's mare and burdened her for ____the next day they
were forced to drench the blond? her and abused the said Womack much
in language, telling him he had broken open his house and was a rogue
and a thief and naming several things which he said that said Womack
had stolen. Womack answered that he need not break into his house for
a cart and oxen might go through it; after which and some other
discoursing said parties went before said Gower's judgement who being
sick and tired. It growing late ye deponent advised Womack to make an
end to it and Womack said he was willing to stand to said Gower's
judgement what he thought ye damages were but Cater refused.
This dispute goes on with depositions from the Gower household,
ending with a deposition from Joseph Tanner, age 27 years, that being
in the company of said Cater he heard said Cater say that John Womack
was a hog thief. Your deponent asked the said Cater how could tell
and he replied that Peter Ashbrook told him so. (We can probably
assume that Martha Cater maiden name was not Womack.
In the 8/1/1692 deposition William Puckett, age 38 years stated that
about the middle of last April, going into the wood with Peter
Ashbrook and Will Basse, Peter Ashbrook called this deponent and told
him that yonder was John Womack was coming along the path between
Peter Ashbrook and Francis Cater with a gang of hogs and that the
said John Womack turned out of the path and that he saw that a number
of the shoats and several of the sows were marked with Henry
Walthall's mark.
This really only shows that Francis Cater lived next door to Peter
Ashbrook and it does vindicate Francis' earlier opinion of John
Womack.
There are many references to Francis Cater witnessing things, serving
on the Grand Jury in 1693, buying a four poster bed, a moth eaten
blanket, etc."
Cynthia
HA! Looks like we all three agree that the Sterling on the census is
the son of Henry. I had a discussion with the hubby about a week ago
about how ages change on the census, the gist of it being that around 50
years old women seem to exaggerate to an earlier age & after 60 both
sexes exaggerate the opposite way, saying they're older than they are.
Even if both parties were exaggeration, however, I believe the Jemima
FRIZZEL wedding was with an older Jemima than is shown on the will &
that the earlier Jemima is probably the sister to Thomas with the will &
married our Sterling Sr. Sterling's wife in KY is his age & the wife
shown on the census is suddenly much younger - must be a different wife
& hence Jemima. (Also, Thos. lists all the married females by their
married name, but Jemima is shown as a FRIZZEL still.) Speaking of
Sterling Sr., I tend to agree that all the boys that end up in MO are
from Sterling Sr.
Also, don't know if or how the following has been covered, but I found
one of those wierd coincidences. In KY we have Uriah CATO who m. Nancy
LADD in 1827, Trigg Co.
In 1850 Boone Co., MO we have the following:
Nancy b ca 1812 (apparent widow - she's head of household)
James b ca 1828
William E.B. b ca 1830
Mary b ca 1832
John F. b ca 1833
Tabitha F. b ca 1840
W.W. b ca 1842
H.S. b ca 1844 (if this is Uriah's family, he apparently d. 1844-1850)
Also, John F. was drafted in 1864, but was in California at the time so
didn't show up.
Do you think this was Uriah's family?? The marriage date & birth date
of the first child sure seem to fit perfectly! If it is Uriah's family,
wonder where they were previously - was Uriah his proper name & he
possibly used his middle name or something? Why aren't any of the boys
named Uriah?
Later,
Bonnie
Bonnie,
I went to the State Library today to look up the Sterling Cato in
the 1830 census of Missouri as you requested. In the printed index
his name is Sterling Cate but as I read the microfilm of the census
it looks like Cato. For instance, a few names down is the name Wingo.
The ending "o" in Wingo looks the same as the ending "o" in Cato. I
checked very carefully to see if the marks for the age of the people
in the household were read correctly. It is clearly that Sterling
Cato's age was marked as 80-90 years and his wife was listed as 50-60
years. The wife's age is no problem since there is evidence that
Sterling may have married again up in Wayne Co., Mo. to Jemimah
Frizzell 7/10/1829. It would be helpful if Frizzell records would
supply us with the approximate birth date of Jemimah Frizzell.
However there is a problem with the age of Sterling. According to
this record in Madison Co. he was born 1740-50. On the other hand the
1800 census has his birth as 1755-74. I think that the two census
records are the same man. Madison Co. borders Wayne Co. on the North
and Wayne Co. on the West, counties that we have records of the
Cato's living in. Which one do we believe. I am inclined to believe
the 1800 record. When people get old they tend to exaggerate their
age. Also his birth before 1749 just not seem to fit other records.
The first evidence of his father Henry owning land was in 1758.
Surely if he had a son born as early as 1749, we would have found
evidence of earlier land ownership. Also Sterling would have had to
have started his family when he was close to 30 yrs. old . This does
not seem likely as we look at his life style in later life. He was
obviously a very active man sexually, had many children and possibly
married 3 times.
Now for the name of his neighbors. The names on page 344 with
Sterling in the middle of the page are as follows: James Hill, John
Hill, John R. North, Jeremiah Robinson, Anthony Diel, Jacob W. Miller,
Joseph ?Hater, George C. Karnick, John K. Jones, John B. ? Dillois,
Isiah Smith, Thomas Morrow, Sterling Cato, Jesse Allen, Mary Wingo,
James Lewis, John Teal, William Conaway, William Stephenson, Henry W.
Cooper, Henry Powell, Thompson Crawford, William W. Harwood, Joseph W.
St. Gemme, Charles W. Crittendon.
Well what do you think? Is this our Sterling son of Henry?
Henry Brackin
Im just starting my search on the Cato family. Does anyone have anything on
Christopher Cato of Wilkes Co. Ga in the 1850 censes. He was married to Nancy
Gollette. They moved to Gordon Co. by 1860. Some of their children were:
William, Sophronia (Ford), Elizabeth. Thanks
tim
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