Seasons Greetings to everyone....
Hi there Tim,
As my American husband pointed out over a comment he made to his brother in
the US some people have no idea what Boxing Day is and that its a holiday
some parts of the world (old Empire stuff) - mind you some who have Boxing
Day are also probably in the dark too.
Adding to this - I find it amusing that we in NZ (and probably Australia )
can buy Christmas cards depicting snow, when we are (meant to be) in the
middle of summer !
Jocelyn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Cattley" <timjhcat(a)tiscali.co.uk>
To: <CATLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [CAT...] Wiltshire Catleys
How do Mick,
I must thank you twice, once for all the Anstey info you sent to me by
attachment and secondly for doing it on Boxing Day!
It is much appreciated indeed.
With your input, I now have four sources of Anstey information and they
all
overlap but with some differences on the edges if you follow me.
Re the Wiltshire connection:- I think that these are circumstances where
it
is quite reasonable to suppose that a Hertfordshire family of
agricultural
land workers must have moved to a similar situation in Wiltshire. This by
the inclusion of the Newman name. It can hardly be a co-incidence.
I find myself in an interesting spot in that the Anstey info I now have
indicates that all four of you "inputters" have the central core of the
tree
the same but with differences.... all of you have individual
additional
information to add to make a collective total.
I need to make contact with David Henry Catley who sent me the original
data
that I have and ask him to make contact with all of you.
The Tom Doig name is familiar because I had some dealings with a Valerie
Olesen back in the early 1980's who was an Anstey Catley herself and she
constantly referred to Tom in her letters to me. She eventually moved away
from Newbury in Berkshire down to the West Country and I lost contact with
her, more is the pity.
As "co-ordinator" it is my job to attempt to place things Cat(t)ley
together
(although in truth Chris Newall is doing a far better job of it than
I
ever
can) but the best I can hope to do is to spot things and highlight
them as
I
am attempting to do with the Ansteys.
I will attempt to draw up a tree based on all the info that has come my
way
and send it out to all you Anstey research members because to do it
on an
individual basis would be to take up too much time this end ... I am in
the
middle of a four way multiplier which could get out of hand very
easily!
If only to answer one question for you Mick: the "missing Australian
Catleys
of the Anstey line" that I referred to come from Edmund Catley
on your
list
b 1835 son of William who married Mary Copeland in 1832.
This Edmund seems to have married and had nine children by a Mary Ann
Warren and his son Charles spelled Cattley 1860-1947 married Sarah Coxall
in
1885 (in my PRO Marriage lists) and their eldest son Edward Charles b
1885
(also as Cattley in my lists) married a Dorothy Bartington (Cattley lists)
and they emigrated to Aussie in 1923.
They had a son Reginald Charles Cattley (PRO lists) b 4/9/1919 who
obviously
emigrated with them.
RCC had two sons born as Edward Reginald and Peter John Cattley b 1943 and
1951 in WA.
Thus you Catleys in Australia have genuine Cattley cousins!
I know this to be accurate because I have had contact with Edward Reginald
back in 1992 along with his wife Florence.
At that time their address was as follows:- E.R. Cattley
40.
Swincer Way
Koondoola
6064 WA
It is a bit late at night now to go further but hopefully this all helps?
Regards Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: Mick Catley <catleym(a)netspeed.com.au>
To: <CATLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: [CAT...] Wiltshire Catleys
> G'day Tim,
>
> Seasons greeting to you and all the other listers.
>
> Sharon and I have had several exchanges of e-mails over the Wiltshire
> Catleys which we believe started with James Catley c. Barkway 7 Nov
1740.
>
> As with all genealogical matters I should say that there is no absolute
> proof but some documented records and educated guesses support this
belief.
>
> Firstly, I have examined the microfilms of the Barkway C of E parish
> registers and found the record for James christening where the entry
states
> "son of Charles Catley". Over a period of several years around this
time
> there are several other christening records for children of
Charles
Catley
> but their spacings suggest they are siblings. Some of the
records also
> include the mother's name as Mary.
>
> I have assumed this family is that of Charles Catley and Mary Newman,
whose
> marriage is entered in the Barkway registry on 30 July 1738.
>
> The only other information I have about James Catley at Barkway came
from
> Tom Doig a professional historian in the hamlet of Nuthampstead
within
the
> parish of Barkway who advised me:
>
> "James (bp7.11.1740 son of Charles & Mary), labourer, was alive at
> Barkway 1764 (re Militia List.) He is not listed as 'married with
> children' however he could have been married as 'married with children'
> indicated 'more than three children' - if you see what I mean! James
> disappears from Barkway after 1764 and I have no record of what happened
to
> him. There was also a James buried at Barkway on 20.5.1759 - it clearly
> was not
> him!"
>
> The next piece of information is the IGI christening records for Tisbury
> Independent Church in Wiltshire where there are eight children listed as
> children of James and Martha. The christening dates, 1766-1784 are
> consistent with the expected fathering period of James. The forename
> "Newman" for one of the children is a strong link to the Barkway Catleys
> where it appears several times in different branches of the family.
>
> I have not done any detailed research on lines of the Barkway Catleys
apart
> from my own. However I have documented records as I have come across
them.
> I cannot send attachments to the list so I will send to you directly the
> descendants of James and Alice Catley of Barley, which are my earliest
records.
>
>
>
>
> At 03:30 PM 24/12/03 +0000, Tim Cattley wrote:
> >Hello Mick and Sharon
> >
> >Happy Christmas to you (and all the other listers by the way) before I
> >forget.
> >
> >I am doing a bit of digging into the Anstey Tree myself at the moment
using
> >my PRO extracts,the Roger Tamplin Anstey Parish Record chart supplied
by
> >David Henry Cattley of Stotfold and the Anstey
Chappell/Cattley list
> >together with Candis Cattley-Sanders own work and have a couple of
questions
> >for you:-
>
> Regards,
>
> Mick Catley
>
>
>
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