If only to underline how important Hull and its surrounds was (is) as a
commercial centre and port, you may be interested to know that my bmd
spreadsheet shows that members from nine different Cat*ley trees show up in
the GRO category Hull - Sculcoates - Beverly between 1865 and 1925.
Re Nellie // Ellie //Helen? :- It is a long shot I know but I can only find
one possibility given place of birth quoted Sheffield and that is Mary Helen
Catley born GRO 3/4 1878 daughter of Thomas Newmarch2 and Charlotte Gibson.
This is just within a 5 year enumerator rounding up/down time frame. Is a
single T spelling rather than double and a William of Kirton tree member.
Tim
David, have you anything on Mary Helen? I have "nfi" (no further
information) marked against her birth entry.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter(a)health.sdu.dk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] James E.V. Cattley
Death of a Helen J Leeson registered Sculcoates 1931 age 48 so born
about
1883 and of marriagable age in 1903. Age fits the Nellie of the 1911
census. Anthony
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From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com] On Behalf
Of liz cordingley [lizcordingley(a)blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: 24 October 2012 21:52
To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] James E.V. Cattley
Hi All,
Dorothy M Leeson was born Dec Q 1919 Sculcoates and guess what her mothers
maiden name is Cattley!!
So I would say that they where probably cousins that married.
Liz
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Cattley
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 12:14 AM
To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] James E.V. Cattley
All most interesting re Claudia and this information was not known, simply
because I have not researched down collateral lines of any Cat*ley tree,
my
Cattley tree included Anthony.
Having taken on the task of researching all trees Cat*ley, I have had to
resist the temptation of chasing collaterals, however interesting, as
being
counter productive to my main objective which is the production a b/m/d
spreadsheet identifying each and every Cat*ley by date and which tree they
belong to, including those dna tested.
So far the tally is 49 trees (some are twigs which I am sure will merge
together eventually into branches and finally, into already established
trees) and the individual line entries exceed 18,500 events.
The situation is that I am now at an advanced stage of identification
thank's to the input of many listers and most of the "easy stuff" (none
will
thank me for this expression!) has thus been recorded and I am left with
the
more challenging bits.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter(a)health.sdu.dk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] James E.V. Cattley
> Those were two separate observations. The J E Cattley on the passenger
> list was on a short trip to Toulon departing 23 May 1931. Address
> (Leeds),
> age (24), profession (clerk) all match the incoming record from 4 June
> 1931. The boats were to and from Oz but he did not go that far afield. I
> notice a Claudia Cattley born 1894, so about the same age as Vladimir,
> took a trip in 1950; profession nurse. Claudia's sister was Ludmila K.
> LeFeber of Hendersonville NC and her brother Eugeny Makaroff of Oakland
> CA
> according to Ludmila's obituary in The Times-News, Hendersonville, NC of
> 19 December 1977; perhaps this was known. Anthony
>
> ________________________________________
> From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com] On Behalf
> Of Tim Cattley [felis(a)mypostoffice.co.uk]
> Sent: 20 October 2012 13:13
> To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [CATLEY] James E.V. Cattley
>
> Thank you Anthony,
>
> For your input and I think that Site Mgr:- Erica and Lister:- Joan will
> be
> interested in your comments.
>
> Vladimir Cattley and his wife Claudia nee Makeroff are known members of
> the
> Stevan Catlay of Normanton family tree as is their daughter Joan Violet
> Cattley bir 22/01/1922 Tonbridge who together were a small twiglet on one
> of
> the two "Russian Merchant" branches belonging to this tree.
>
> Your reasoning is compelling given the common denominator of Holderness
> but
> the maths does not work out IF the date of Vladimir's birth in St
> Petersburg
> in 1895 is correct given that JEV Cattley is shown as age 24 in the
> Otrano
> shipping arrival in Southampton ex Brisbane as this gives a date of birth
> of
> abt 1907 at which point Vladimir would have been some 12 years of age.
>
> I shall have to attempt to check out the Russian on line archives and
> look
> for Vladimir's birth, possibly JEVC was also born there thus cementing a
> "Russian connection"?
>
> Regards Tim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter(a)health.sdu.dk>
> To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 10:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [CATLEY] James E.V. Cattley
>
>
>> Perhaps the second initial V stands for Vladimir? Anthony
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Tim Cattley [felis(a)mypostoffice.co.uk]
>> Sent: 20 October 2012 00:54
>> To: catley @rootsweb
>> Subject: [CATLEY] James E.V. Cattley
>>
>> I have been trying without success, to link the above to any known
>> Cat*ley
>> family tree.
>>
>> There are three sisters shown on the UK GRO births Register :-
>>
>> Virginia Cattley 2/4 1939 Holderness/Hull
>> Patricia.H.Cattley 4/4 1942 Holderness/Hull
>> Angela.V.Cattley 3/4 1948 Holderness/Hull
>>
>> All above show the mothers maiden name to be Leeson.
>>
>> Ancestry indicates that a Dorothy M Leeson married a James E.V. Cattley
>> GRO 3/4 1938 Holderness.
>>
>> Try as I may, I can not find a birth for James E V Cattley and all I
>> have
>> come up with is the fact that a J.E.V.Cattley is shown in the Telephone
>> Directories in the mid 1950's in York.
>>
>> My thoughts are that maybe this James was born abroad but my research
>> system has failed to identify either birth or death.
>>
>> Can anyone identify his birth year/location and maybe his parents names
>> please?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
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