Hi Andrew,
I have 2 trees running Thomas of MSN and Emery. Both lines are connected
somewhere but without me actually looking and merging I have kept them
separate for some reason.
I have Aubrey but dont have any info on Robert. Now I do have Robert in
Wellow also Thomas.
Can you let me know more info so I can see if I can put it together my end.
Email me direct.
Cheers
Liz
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Hayes
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 10:52 AM
To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CATLEY] John Catley's 1650 Welton Copyhold
Dear all,
Browsing on the British Newspaper Archive recently I came across a
reference to Aubrey Catley advertising his life interest in one John
Catley's tenement, part of the Duchy of Cornwall manor of Welton. As
there seems to be no suitable 18th century John I reasoned that he might
be the same John in the 1641 Lay Subsidy and some references in the few
surviving MSN BTs.
On a subsequent visit to the National Archives I consulted a 1650 survey
of the confiscated lands of Charles Stuart, late Prince of Wales. Sure
enough a John Catley appeared on the second page, with a copyhold that
seemed to match some details of the 19th century ad. He was aged 60 and
had been granted the copyhold in year 10 James I (c1813). In the
reversion were his sons Thomas, aged 28, and Robert, aged 22. Thomas
would be a little too old to be having children in the early 18th
century, but perhaps he was the grandfather of the Thomas of Welton
line. He must surely be connected in some way for that lineage to be in
the possession of his copyhold in the 19th century. His brother Robert
is presumably the Robert Catley, yeoman, that makes an appearance in the
earliest register and the Wells marriage licences.
If anyone is interested in having a further look I can provide a
transcription of the entries, together with the customs of the manor,
and original images. The obvious next step would be to find out if the
Duchy of Cornwall archive has any manorial records relating to
Welton/MSN to link John and his sons to the lineage(s) recorded in the
PRs. Has anyone ever tried to make a search there?
Regards
Andrew Hayes (grandson of Eliza Catley, daughter of James Catley and
Eliza Anne Ford)
PS If there are any other offspring of the above couple out there in the
Catley cyberspace I have made substantial progress on that lady's
ancestry, going back to the mid 16th century for some lineages. Drop me
a line if you'd like to know more.
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