Kay,
Would you like to respond to this bearing in mind your Heath contact and
what he has done so far?.
Jocelyn,
It would seem that the samples are stable enough to stand travel via normal
post and there is no time limit put onto them that I am aware of, thus
whether national or international, it matters not. As for Biosecurity ....
good point, I do not know the answer but presumably a query to one of the
many labs offering such tests would resolve the question?
As I see it, the whole process was originally American driven and as their
quest for roots is usually within Europe (or West Coast Africa) I would be
surprised if this issue has not already been addressed. A sample in a
sealed container exudes no germ/virus but a passenger boarding an aircraft
travelling between continants can be a far more infectious time bomb.
LM,
I agree with you that £240 or even £180 is still very expensive (see Kays
response if she chooses to send one) and in any case, too few Cat(t)leys
have shown an interest in my opinion.
However I think you should expect a little more than what you assert in your
3rd point. There would be absolutly no point in having a test done for it
to simply remain on file as a datum reference for future comparisons. The
idea was to get a number of CURRENT comparisons done and see if any DNA
links could be found.
Thanks for your input, much appreciated.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: <prvanov(a)xtra.co.nz
To: <CATLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 3:35 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [CAT...] DNA testing
Another thing to consider - how would swabs of cheeks cells travel
internationally. I don't how stable the base substance in the test kit is.
Also, I'm not sure if these things would get stopped at the border by
Biosecurity. I would have to persaude one of my 2 brothers, or one of their
4 boys, or my father to do the test. If it was cheaper to do in Australia, I
would get my brother over there involved.
Jocelyn
> From: "L L Milnes"
<landairwater(a)xnet.co.nz
> Date: 2005/06/27 Mon PM
02:05:45 GMT+12:00
> To: CATLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [CAT...] DNA testing
> I am still willing but see many difficulties, Tim, and I
am not rushing
to
> write a cheque.
> 1. Heavy female preponderance in my family, hardly any
males and those
> there are are rather unlikely to feel enthusiastic. Don't relish the
task
> of asking for a sample.
> 2. I find GBP180 quite high (NZ $500, the income of an
average NZ
family
> for a week).
> 3. All I would expect to get from it is a datum to put
on file and
maybe
> benchmark further possible data against in the future.
> 4. And it might be better to delay doing it until the
future, when it
> might be cheaper because more people are doing it? Somewhat countered
by
> the possibility that valuable participants might die in the
meantime or
lose
> interest.
> 5. I am wondering if in the USA, where people love
western medicine
and
> genealogy, there might be a cheaper but still reliable service
on offer.
> LM
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Cattley" <timjhcat(a)tiscali.co.uk
> To: <CATLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:24 PM
> Subject: [CAT...] DNA testing
> > >From the responses
written I conclude that there are some six
Cat(t)ley
> > >outposts including mine, who agree in principle to the
general idea
of
> > >DNA testing if the cost was not outrageous.
>
> > I note that the Oxford test (see the
genetealogy.com
web site I gave
in my
> > last contact) charges some £180 Stirling for this service
and will not
> > only report upon common Y chromosome links between individuals but can
> > also place said individuals into one of the various 16 "clans" within
the
> > UK which have been found to exist so far.
>
> > In my opinion, just six individual separate Trees
are not a sufficient
> > number to make the idea work and we should think about recruiting more
> > people to come in with us?
>
> > I fully accept Mick Catleys points regarding the
maternal link break
and
> > note that in the Normanton Parish records circa late
1500's where my
own
> > family were based at the time, there are numerous entries
of
illegitimate
> > births which could very well disrupt a male line continuity
test.
>
> > Is the distinct possibility of illegitimacy
somewhere along
everybody's
> > male line sufficient reason to veto the idea of undertaking
a DNA
test?
>
> > Comparison tests that
come back negative, would not be proof positive
that
> > NO connection exists.
>
> > Suppose it depends if one thinks positive or
negative on the subject!
>
> > It goes without question that any DNA tests should
not replace basic
> > research Mick, it was never my intention to suggest this but I still
think
> > that many people could be curiously interested to see if
any DNA trace
> > "commonality" might exist which would "fix" various Catley
houses
together
> > and enthuse further research to attempt to prove this?
This is
positive
> > thought process I hope?
>
> > Can only throw the subject open to all the Listers
on this Net and see
> > what the majority consensus turns out to be?
>
> > If sufficient (what number is that?) agree, then
maybe we can
formulate
> > something?
>
> > Regards TimC
>
>
>
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