Hi Kay (M)
Good to know you are still monitoring the messages and "waiting in hope re
links etc" for anyone else to stumble upon key information.
Like you, am waiting the other dna test info with great interest. The fact
that my haplogroup reads R1b1c indicating that my ancestors were probably
chasing reindeer on the Russian Steppes 50,000 years ago and migrated
Westwards and then down to the Iberian peninsular to avoid the last Ice Age
is not especially newsworthy and pretty predicable but the fact that the
Pennsylvania Cattleys and myself are a 99.9% match is most noteworthy
because this adds the Edmund Catley of Bilton Ainstey, Yorkshire tree (that
Liz has resolved) into the Stevan Catlay of Normanton main tree.
I am hopeful that any other Yorkshire dna tests show the same match results
and, if we can get a trace on some Lincolnshire Cat*leys dna, it will be
fascinating to see if there are links there as well.
OK on the Farndon Notts connection, thanks for the confirmation.
Am interested to learn that both your Catleys and the Thomas Catley
(publican) moved up to Sheffield from Notts for economic reasons and I guess
the situation was pretty bad for many rural agricultural families in the
1840+50's (the number of emigrations to places like New Zealand at this time
rather says it all) and it swelled the Cat*ley numbers in Yorkshire; adding
to the "native Cat*leys" who had already been there for some 250 years
........... but where did they come from, some central ex Lincolnshire
Catley "pool" maybe?
I you must be correct in thinking that the Thomas in Sheffield b 1814 in
Walkeringham (actually 03/10/1813) and the Joseph in Rotheram b 1803
Walkeringham were brothers because a quick IGI check reveals that both had
parents names William and Sarah. However I could not find a marriage in the
area that fits a William and Sarah. You don't have one on your tree do you?
Best wishes Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kay" <chantrey2000(a)btinternet.com>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Nottinghamshire Cat*leys
Hi Tim
Yes, I'm still here reading the messages and hoping someone else will find
links to my Catley's. :-)
I really enjoyed reading the emails about the DNA tests and am eagerly
waiting to see what the ultimate results are. It's amazing what science can
tell us. :-)
You are correct; your notes should say Farndon, Notts. :-))
My CATLEY's moved to Sheffield after William (DOB 1821) was accidentally
killed at Normanton on 31 August 1865. I know that two of his 3 daughters
married and lived in Sheffield and suspect that the third one married in the
Wortley registration district (near Sheffield not Leeds), but don't have the
proof as I haven't seen her marriage certificate containing her father's
name.
William had one son, Thomas who died aged 33, and as far as I'm aware he
wasn't married, so the CATLEY name from this particular branch died with
Thomas in September 1883. The next time I send for GRO certificates I will
be sending for Thomas's death certificate, so will hopefully be able to
confirm that he was a bachelor.
I have checked my tree and can't see a Joseph CATLEY from Walkeringham, but
wouldn't be surprised if his family is linked with mine somewhere.
I have seen a CATLEY family from Walkeringham in Sheffield census records
from 1851-1881, the head of the household - Thomas CATLEY was born around
1814. I spotted his grave when I was looking around All Saints grave yard at
Ecclesall, Sheffield and took a photo just in case it was of interest to
anyone on this list, Thomas died on 17 August 1884 aged 70. His wife Sarah
is buried with him and she died on 27th July 1872 aged 53 years. I'd like to
bet that this Thomas is linked with the Joseph you mention.
I have searched records from the Sheffield Flood of 11 March 1864 as several
members of my other family branches were affected by it and have noticed
that a claim was submitted by the Thomas CATLEY from Walkeringham:
Claimant: Thomas Catley, Publican
of: South Street Hotel, Sheffield Moor
Claimed: £59
Award: Assessed by Consent at £35 4s
Granted: 22 February 1865
I would suspect that the families moved to Rotherham, Sheffield and Leeds
for economic reasons. I'm sure that my particular branch was very poor. I've
seen the area they lived in and know that it was very industrialized, dirty
and polluted and can only think that they would have left the countryside
because they were on the breadline, especially after William died. I too
wouldn't be surprised if the families from Yorkshire were all linked
together with the ones from Nottinghamshire.
Please let me know if you want me to look at anything else.
Best regards
Kay (M)
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Hi Tim
I have a William son of William CATLEY and Ann, who was baptized in Farndon,
Notts, on 10 May 1778, whether this is of relevance I don't know as I don't
have a marriage or any other details for him.
I think its really interesting to find where your relatives came from and to
find the Pennsylvania match linking the families together.
Best wishes
Kay (M)
-----Original Message-----
From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:catley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Cattley
Sent: 20 March 2007 16:44
To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Nottinghamshire Cat*leys
Hi Kay (M)
Good to know you are still monitoring the messages and "waiting in hope re
links etc" for anyone else to stumble upon key information.
Like you, am waiting the other dna test info with great interest. The fact
that my haplogroup reads R1b1c indicating that my ancestors were probably
chasing reindeer on the Russian Steppes 50,000 years ago and migrated
Westwards and then down to the Iberian peninsular to avoid the last Ice Age
is not especially newsworthy and pretty predicable but the fact that the
Pennsylvania Cattleys and myself are a 99.9% match is most noteworthy
because this adds the Edmund Catley of Bilton Ainstey, Yorkshire tree (that
Liz has resolved) into the Stevan Catlay of Normanton main tree.
I am hopeful that any other Yorkshire dna tests show the same match results
and, if we can get a trace on some Lincolnshire Cat*leys dna, it will be
fascinating to see if there are links there as well.
OK on the Farndon Notts connection, thanks for the confirmation.
Am interested to learn that both your Catleys and the Thomas Catley
(publican) moved up to Sheffield from Notts for economic reasons and I guess
the situation was pretty bad for many rural agricultural families in the
1840+50's (the number of emigrations to places like New Zealand at this time
rather says it all) and it swelled the Cat*ley numbers in Yorkshire; adding
to the "native Cat*leys" who had already been there for some 250 years
........... but where did they come from, some central ex Lincolnshire
Catley "pool" maybe?
I you must be correct in thinking that the Thomas in Sheffield b 1814 in
Walkeringham (actually 03/10/1813) and the Joseph in Rotheram b 1803
Walkeringham were brothers because a quick IGI check reveals that both had
parents names William and Sarah. However I could not find a marriage in the
area that fits a William and Sarah. You don't have one on your tree do you?
Best wishes Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kay" <chantrey2000(a)btinternet.com>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Nottinghamshire Cat*leys
Hi Tim
Yes, I'm still here reading the messages and hoping someone else will find
links to my Catley's. :-)
I really enjoyed reading the emails about the DNA tests and am eagerly
waiting to see what the ultimate results are. It's amazing what science can
tell us. :-)
You are correct; your notes should say Farndon, Notts. :-))
My CATLEY's moved to Sheffield after William (DOB 1821) was accidentally
killed at Normanton on 31 August 1865. I know that two of his 3 daughters
married and lived in Sheffield and suspect that the third one married in the
Wortley registration district (near Sheffield not Leeds), but don't have the
proof as I haven't seen her marriage certificate containing her father's
name.
William had one son, Thomas who died aged 33, and as far as I'm aware he
wasn't married, so the CATLEY name from this particular branch died with
Thomas in September 1883. The next time I send for GRO certificates I will
be sending for Thomas's death certificate, so will hopefully be able to
confirm that he was a bachelor.
I have checked my tree and can't see a Joseph CATLEY from Walkeringham, but
wouldn't be surprised if his family is linked with mine somewhere.
I have seen a CATLEY family from Walkeringham in Sheffield census records
from 1851-1881, the head of the household - Thomas CATLEY was born around
1814. I spotted his grave when I was looking around All Saints grave yard at
Ecclesall, Sheffield and took a photo just in case it was of interest to
anyone on this list, Thomas died on 17 August 1884 aged 70. His wife Sarah
is buried with him and she died on 27th July 1872 aged 53 years. I'd like to
bet that this Thomas is linked with the Joseph you mention.
I have searched records from the Sheffield Flood of 11 March 1864 as several
members of my other family branches were affected by it and have noticed
that a claim was submitted by the Thomas CATLEY from Walkeringham:
Claimant: Thomas Catley, Publican
of: South Street Hotel, Sheffield Moor
Claimed: £59
Award: Assessed by Consent at £35 4s
Granted: 22 February 1865
I would suspect that the families moved to Rotherham, Sheffield and Leeds
for economic reasons. I'm sure that my particular branch was very poor. I've
seen the area they lived in and know that it was very industrialized, dirty
and polluted and can only think that they would have left the countryside
because they were on the breadline, especially after William died. I too
wouldn't be surprised if the families from Yorkshire were all linked
together with the ones from Nottinghamshire.
Please let me know if you want me to look at anything else.
Best regards
Kay (M)
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