Hi there Tim,
Yes, this is very helpful.
Is John of Sawston not considered to be a match with Melbourn/Royston/Barley
trees now or has it been absorbed into Royston tree ?
Also is there still a separate tree for William of Wheathamstead ? I'm
asking these questions as I'm looking at this area again in relation to
Zachariah Catley's parents John and Elizabeth.
In terms of the FTDNA results I give my approval for my test and my fathers
to be made available in the Catley project page.
Kind regards
Jocelyn
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Cattley [mailto:t.cattley@mypostoffice.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2015 11:17 p.m.
To: Jocelyn and Bert Prvanov <prvanov(a)xtra.co.nz>; catley(a)rootsweb.com
Cc: Jocelyn and Bert Prvanov via <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Another Cat*ley Familytreedna test coming up
Jocelyn,
There is a security section on the FTDNA site and so unless individuals give
their agreement, the test results are hidden from others. Only the
co-ordinator has full view of the as to the overall situation within the one
name study file.
This is my take on the progress so far on the trees tested and you must
await Liz's report for the full results:-
Charles Cattley of Greenwich 1867................no matches
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Emery Catley of MidsomerNorton 1731..............no matches
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John Catley of Hackney 1803......................no matches
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Thomas Catley of Bath 1819.......................no matches
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William Catley of Kirton in Lindsey 1709............matches with Thomas
Catley of Bottesford Thomas Catley of Bottesford
1742....................matches with William Catley of Kirton
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James Catley of Barley 1709.........................matches with Joseph
Catley of Melbourn and Joseph Catley of Royston.
Joseph Catley of Melbourn 1804......................matches with James
Catley of Barley and Joseph Catley of Royston Joseph Catley of Royston
1771.......................matches with James of Barley and Joseph Catley of
Melbourn
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Stevan Catlay of Normanton 1580.....................matches with Robert
Catley of Garforth and Edmund Catley of Bilton Robert Catley of Garforth
1690......................matches with Stevan Catlay of Normanton and Edmund
Catley of Bilton and John Catley of Leeds.
Edmund Catley of Bilton 1724........................matches with Robert
Catley of Garforth and Stevan Catlay of Normanton and John Catley of Leeds
John Catley of Leeds 1825...........................matches with Robert
Catley of Garforth and Edmund Catley of Bilton.
The fact that we have "regional matches" is hardly a surprise and simply
confirms that which we expected, in that there were regional common Catley
ancestors.
From the above you will be able to see that there are seven different
Cat*ley dna profiles. What is more of a surprise is however, that the
MidsomerNorton and Bath trees have no connection because we know that there
is a quite large pool of Catley dna in the Somerset/Wiltshire area, there
are Welton, Cucklington and Kilmersdon Catley trees to add to the mix which
surely must be related either the MSN or Bath trees?
I have yet another Yorkshire Cattley dna test waiting results (Robert
Cattley of Rothwell 1830) because a possible direct link has been found on
paper that connects it to the Bilton tree, if this is supported by dna as we
expect, it will give us a 5-way Yorkshire Cat*ley tree match !
Hope this helps
Tim
On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 13:45:53 +1200
Jocelyn and Bert Prvanov via <catley(a)rootsweb.com> wrote:
Hi there Tim (and Liz),
Thanks for the update on the number of Cat*ley DNA tests that have
been done.
For some reason I can't see any information about these DNA results
our FTDNA Cat*ley projects page. The
Ysearch.org doesn't show 13
different results either. Am I doing something wrong ?
Kind regards
Jocelyn
-----Original Message-----
From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:catley-bounces@rootsweb.com]
On Behalf Of Tim Cattley via
Sent: Friday, 7 August 2015 2:16 a.m.
To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CATLEY] Another Cat*ley Familytreedna test coming up
Listers may recall that we have some 13 different Cat*ley dna tests
lodged with FTDNA in the United States which have already shown that
regionally, some share common ancestors.
Thus the two Lincolnshire trees:- Thomas of Bottesford 1742 and
William of Kirton 1709 are connected
as are
The three Hertfordshire/Cambs/Essex ones:- James of Barley 1709.
Joseph of Royston 1771 and Joseph of Melbourn 1804.
and also
The four Yorks ones:- Stevan of Normanton 1580. Robert of Garforth 1690.
Edmund of Bilton 1724 and John of Leeds 1825. So close is the match
between Robert of Garforth and Edmund of Bilton (marker distance 1)
that the connection that joins them is now known.
However, new research has just come to light which indicates very
strongly that a connection exists between the Garforth-/-Bilton Catley
tree and that of Robert Catley of Rothwell. In the light of this news,
I have today got a a bona fide Rothwell male to volunteer to take the
test. Fingers crossed for another marker distance 1 result
We should not of course, overlook our four lonely dna tested trees
where no match has been found :-
Emery of Midsomer Norton 1731 Somerset John of Hackney 1803 Thomas of
Bath 1819 Charles of Greenwich 1867.
I suspect that the Emery of MSN tree is linked in to the Thomas of
Welton line, has anybody got any contact with a Welton male who would
take the test?
Regards
Tim
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