There should be all sorts of links between Royston, Melbourn and Barley/Barkway/Anstey
Catley's because we have dna evidence that connects them. As to Sawston Catley's
and dna which is what Jocelyn is asking about, to my knowledge, we have never had a
Sawston tree member tested, because there are no living members to provide a sample
surely?
Tim
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 23:16:35 +0100
"lizcordingley" <lizcordingley(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Tim,
I have entries for Mick in Australia having links with Sawston, Melbourne
and Cambridge. Not sure if its one I pieced together.
Liz
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Cattley via
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 10:05 PM
To: Jocelyn and Bert Prvanov
Cc: catley(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Another Cat*ley Familytreedna test coming up
You have a copy, albeit an old one and now out of date, of my grand bmd
spreadsheet which gives in colour code, the evidence as to which trees have
got a dna profile. Those trees that have not yet been tested are all
depicted by the name being in sky blue font. Thus you will see that John of
Sawston is so coloured from which you would be correct in thinking that a
dna test has thus not been done.
This is one of a number of trees who seemingly do not have living members,
the pedigree having fizzled out.
Tim
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 06:12:39 +1200
"Jocelyn and Bert Prvanov" <prvanov(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> Hi there Tim,
> Yes, this is very helpful.
> Is John of Sawston not considered to be a match with
> Melbourn/Royston/Barley
> trees now or has it been absorbed into Royston tree ?
> Also is there still a separate tree for William of Wheathamstead ? I'm
> asking these questions as I'm looking at this area again in relation to
> Zachariah Catley's parents John and Elizabeth.
>
> In terms of the FTDNA results I give my approval for my test and my
> fathers
> to be made available in the Catley project page.
>
> Kind regards
> Jocelyn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Cattley [mailto:t.cattley@mypostoffice.co.uk]
> Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2015 11:17 p.m.
> To: Jocelyn and Bert Prvanov <prvanov(a)xtra.co.nz>; catley(a)rootsweb.com
> Cc: Jocelyn and Bert Prvanov via <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
> Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Another Cat*ley Familytreedna test coming up
>
>
> Jocelyn,
> There is a security section on the FTDNA site and so unless individuals
> give
> their agreement, the test results are hidden from others. Only the
> co-ordinator has full view of the as to the overall situation within the
> one
> name study file.
>
> This is my take on the progress so far on the trees tested and you must
> await Liz's report for the full results:-
>
> Charles Cattley of Greenwich 1867................no matches
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Emery Catley of MidsomerNorton 1731..............no matches
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> John Catley of Hackney 1803......................no matches
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Thomas Catley of Bath 1819.......................no matches
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> William Catley of Kirton in Lindsey 1709............matches with Thomas
> Catley of Bottesford Thomas Catley of Bottesford
> 1742....................matches with William Catley of Kirton
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------
> James Catley of Barley 1709.........................matches with Joseph
> Catley of Melbourn and Joseph Catley of Royston.
> Joseph Catley of Melbourn 1804......................matches with James
> Catley of Barley and Joseph Catley of Royston Joseph Catley of Royston
> 1771.......................matches with James of Barley and Joseph Catley
> of
> Melbourn
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------------------------------------------
> Stevan Catlay of Normanton 1580.....................matches with Robert
> Catley of Garforth and Edmund Catley of Bilton Robert Catley of Garforth
> 1690......................matches with Stevan Catlay of Normanton and
> Edmund
> Catley of Bilton and John Catley of Leeds.
> Edmund Catley of Bilton 1724........................matches with Robert
> Catley of Garforth and Stevan Catlay of Normanton and John Catley of Leeds
> John Catley of Leeds 1825...........................matches with Robert
> Catley of Garforth and Edmund Catley of Bilton.
>
> The fact that we have "regional matches" is hardly a surprise and simply
> confirms that which we expected, in that there were regional common Catley
> ancestors.
>
> From the above you will be able to see that there are seven different
> Cat*ley dna profiles. What is more of a surprise is however, that the
> MidsomerNorton and Bath trees have no connection because we know that
> there
> is a quite large pool of Catley dna in the Somerset/Wiltshire area, there
> are Welton, Cucklington and Kilmersdon Catley trees to add to the mix
> which
> surely must be related either the MSN or Bath trees?
>
> I have yet another Yorkshire Cattley dna test waiting results (Robert
> Cattley of Rothwell 1830) because a possible direct link has been found on
> paper that connects it to the Bilton tree, if this is supported by dna as
> we
> expect, it will give us a 5-way Yorkshire Cat*ley tree match !
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 13:45:53 +1200
> Jocelyn and Bert Prvanov via <catley(a)rootsweb.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi there Tim (and Liz),
> > Thanks for the update on the number of Cat*ley DNA tests that have
> > been done.
> > For some reason I can't see any information about these DNA results
> > our FTDNA Cat*ley projects page. The
Ysearch.org doesn't show 13
> > different results either. Am I doing something wrong ?
> > Kind regards
> > Jocelyn
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:catley-bounces@rootsweb.com]
> > On Behalf Of Tim Cattley via
> > Sent: Friday, 7 August 2015 2:16 a.m.
> > To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
> > Subject: [CATLEY] Another Cat*ley Familytreedna test coming up
> >
> >
> > Listers may recall that we have some 13 different Cat*ley dna tests
> > lodged with FTDNA in the United States which have already shown that
> > regionally, some share common ancestors.
> >
> > Thus the two Lincolnshire trees:- Thomas of Bottesford 1742 and
> > William of Kirton 1709 are connected
> >
> > as are
> >
> > The three Hertfordshire/Cambs/Essex ones:- James of Barley 1709.
> > Joseph of Royston 1771 and Joseph of Melbourn 1804.
> >
> > and also
> >
> > The four Yorks ones:- Stevan of Normanton 1580. Robert of Garforth 1690.
> > Edmund of Bilton 1724 and John of Leeds 1825. So close is the match
> > between Robert of Garforth and Edmund of Bilton (marker distance 1)
> > that the connection that joins them is now known.
> >
> > However, new research has just come to light which indicates very
> > strongly that a connection exists between the Garforth-/-Bilton Catley
> > tree and that of Robert Catley of Rothwell. In the light of this news,
> > I have today got a a bona fide Rothwell male to volunteer to take the
> > test. Fingers crossed for another marker distance 1 result
> >
> > We should not of course, overlook our four lonely dna tested trees
> > where no match has been found :-
> >
> > Emery of Midsomer Norton 1731 Somerset John of Hackney 1803 Thomas of
> > Bath 1819 Charles of Greenwich 1867.
> >
> > I suspect that the Emery of MSN tree is linked in to the Thomas of
> > Welton line, has anybody got any contact with a Welton male who would
> > take the test?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Tim
> > --
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> >
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