David
John Walker (transcribed Walter) is stll at Haxey in 1911 and the only person on the form.
So apart from saying he is still single and a farm labourer we do not learn much. Cannot
find him in 1901.
Anthony
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From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com on behalf of David Meredith
Sent: Tue 03-11-2009 00:53
To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Lincolnshire Catleys
Tim,
I now believe that the John W Catley married to Annie M Fox was John Walker Catley (alias
John Walter Catley) born at Haxey, LIN in 1877.
He's the lad appearing in the Gainsborough RD births for the Dec Qtr of that year.
I've found him in the 1881 & '91 census returns for Haxey living in his
aunt's household, the widow Eliza Harris of Hemswell, LIN. In both returns, he was
the sole Catley listed.
Can't locate him as yet in 1901, but he appears in the Gainsborough RD for 1911.
The Lincs.Fam.Hist.Soc submissions for the UK National Burial Index CDs have the following
which I think clinches it:
6 Sep 1952 - John Walker Catley - 74 yrs - Epworth, St Andrew
22 Nov 1969 - Hannah (Annie) Mary Catley (sic) - 80 yrs - Epworth, St Andrew
Haxey is a mere 3 miles to the south of Epworth.
David
From: Tim Cattley
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 10:09 PM
To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Lincolnshire Catleys
Thank's David,
for your John William Catley synopsis ex Free BMD, much appreciated indeed.
Based on what you have turned up, plus my own BMD notes means that there is
nothing conclusive as to who the correct J.W.C. was.
The York and Tadcaster ones look the most likely.
Birth Certificate time methink's
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Meredith" <david.meredith(a)live.co.uk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Lincolnshire Catleys
Tim,
Concerning the marriage of John W Catley to Annie M Fox in 1913 and who he
may have been.
Of the Catley births for John W's on file with FreeBMD:
Sep 1859 . John William . Gainsbro - married Mary Wright, Jun Qtr 1890
and resided in Owston, LIN - John William burd. 20 Mar 1934 aged 73 yrs at
Owston - Mary burd. 24 Jan 1935 aged 68 yrs at Owston. (Both burials as
per National Burial Index - Lincs.Fam.Hist.Soc)
Sep 1866 . John W . Leeds ... no knowledge
Dec 1868 . John William . Northampton - son of John Catley of Wakefield
(shoemaker) As per census - possibly married Jane Lightwood, Mar Qtr 1896,
Northampton RD
Jun 1872 . John William . Royston - died Mar Qtr 1922, Royston, aged 50
yrs.
Jun 1877 . John William . Tadcaster - died Mar Qtr 1878, Tadcaster RD
Dec 1877 . John Walker . Gainsbro' - no knowledge
Jun 1878 . John William . Glanford B - son of Charles & Maria Catley -
born Barrow on Humber - burd. 01 Nov 1884 aged 6 yrs at Goxhill (National
Burial Index - Lincs.Fam.Hist.Soc)
Sep 1882 . John William . York - possibly married Annie Gage, Sept Qtr
1907, York RD
Mar 1885 . John William . Glanford B - son of Charles & Maria Catley -
born Barrow on Humber - married Alice Maude Simpson, Dec Qtr 1906,
Glandford Brigg RD.
David
From: Tim Cattley
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 10:58 PM
To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Lincolnshire Catleys
Looks like David's information confirms yours Anthony,
I am working backward's from the Catley/Fox births. Yes of course, the
Glanford John William is of interest in the long term but there is only
so
much a chap can handle in one go and my immediate interest is with the
one
who married Annie Fox.
This interest has been increased since getting David's input as you will
see, from my e-mail to him and Kay.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter(a)health.sdu.dk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Lincolnshire Catleys
> Agree about the 13 Catley/Fox births but insist the Glanford Brigg John
> William Catley married Alice Simpson. In which direction are you
working?
> Is John William of no interest unless married to Annie Fox? I have wife
> and 3 kids from John William's service records and can find him with
> parents on the census. On the other hand, if you are working backwards
> from the Fox marriage you probably have the wrong John Catley. Anthony
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com on behalf of Tim Cattley
> Sent: Sun 01-11-2009 17:35
> To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Lincolnshire Catleys
>
>
>
> I am working from the straight GRO's rather than Ancestry which give
the
> full names John William for birth 1/4 1885, Glandford and John W for
> marriage 4/4 1913, Thorne..
>
> Thereafter follows a string of 13 births all attributed to maiden name
> Fox,
> the first five being registered at Gainsborough and the remaining eight
at
> Thorne.
>
> Tim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter(a)health.sdu.dk>
> To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 3:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Lincolnshire Catleys
>
>
>> The wife referred to was Annie M. Fox (FreeBMD). Presumably you have
>> searched that site for possible Catley/Thorne progeny. There are 5
>> registered Gainsborough 1914-19 and 8 registered Thorne 1921-36.
>> I notice the FreeBMD entry for the marriage does not give a middle
name
>> or
>> initial. No doubt you have ruled out a John William Catley of same age
>> who
>> married Alice Maude Simpson at Barrow-on-Humber 23 December 1906? This
>> man's service record has survived and is found both in the Burnt
Series
>> and Pension Series. Let me know if you revise your opinion and I will
>> supply details.
>> Anthony
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com on behalf of Tim Cattley
>> Sent: Sun 01-11-2009 12:14
>> To: catley @rootsweb
>> Subject: [CATLEY] Lincolnshire Catleys
>>
>>
>>
>> This is probably best addressed at both Liz and David who are our
Linc's
>> Catley experts.
>>
>> I am looking at a branch of an unknown Catley tree which seems to have
>> proliferated during the 1914-1936 period in the Gainsborough / Thorne
/
>> Scunthorpe area with a possible sub branch extending down via Hendon
to
>> Bromley and Croydon.
>>
>> There is strong evidence to suggest that the three generations that I
>> have
>> identified stem from John William Catley b 1/4 1885 Glanford Brigg m
4/4
>> 1914 Thorne, to a Miss Fox.
>>
>> John William would seem not to belong to the William of Kirton or
Thomas
>> of Ashby lines.
>>
>> Have either of you got an identification on him?
>>
>> Noted : that the birth's for Glanford 1875-1885 contain eight other
>> individuals some of which are very likely to be siblings.
>>
>> Tim
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