As far as I can see, there is no connection with the Thomas of Escrick
branch. I've had a look at the photographs of Messrs Catley & Ayres, and
neither gent looks like any of our 19th century Ca(t)leys - though that
certainly doesn't rule out a connection through an as yet unknown collateral
branch.
Re the timber + sawmill businesses in York, my grandmothers' brother, Jack
Cattley, was described in his will as "timber merchant, retired", but I have
been unable to pin down which business it was. Family tradition has it that
it was Cattley & Ernest, but I'm not at all convinced of this.
Peter
2009/11/16 Tim Cattley <felis(a)mypostoffice.co.uk>
Have had a look at the L/G for the 1860's-70's but could not
find anything
on Catley & Ayres and have not yet been able to locate the patent that
Ingrid spotted either.
It was a Normanton Cattley tree branch that had a succession of
fathers/sons
running the timber + sawmill business in York and there are connections to
Hull via another cousin branch but there does not look to be any business
or
matrimonial connection between Ayres and this tree that I can find.
There were also members of the Thomas Cattley of Escrick tree in and around
York at this time, so there may be some involvement there or, maybe it was
not a mis-spelling of Catley/Cattley and there were some regular Catleys at
large in York?
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Meredith" <david.meredith(a)live.co.uk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Catley & Ayres road steam vehicle 1869
> Tim,
>
> There might be an interesting tale behind this.
>
> The census returns for York are showing a John Ayre (bth. 1816 Hull) who
> seems to have settled in the city some time between 1842 - 1846 based on
> stated issue's birth locations etc.
>
> In 1851 his stated occupation was that of a 'Bookkeeper and Publican'.
>
> However, by 1861 he had risen to being an 'Iron founder employing 130 men
> with 50 boys'.
>
> The 1871 returns list him under the same occupation.
>
> There are 'Cattleys' appearing in the census returns for York, but they
> seem to have been 'Timber Merchants'.
>
> If wealthy, perhaps they invested in the business.
>
> Might be worth having a browse of the online London Gazette to see if
> there is anything for them partnership wise.
>
> David
>
>
>
>
> From: Tim Cattley
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:34 PM
> To: catley @rootsweb
> Subject: [CATLEY] Catley & Ayres road steam vehicle 1869
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> The Internet has a number of entries for a steam powered three wheeled
> road vehicle weighing a bit less than a 1000 Kgs produced in 1869, in
> York, by messrs Catley and Ayres.
>
> One site at least, has a photograph showing the machine in question with
> two individuals who are presumably Mr Catley and Mr Ayres?
>
> All the sites that I have looked at, give exactly the same word perfect
> text description which suggests a single and unrevealed source of
original
> information.
>
> If I recall correctly, Chris' Catley database has a Catley // Ayres
> connection but whether this is a York's associated event, or even
anything
> other than purely coincidental, I know not.
>
> Does anyone have any knowledge as to who this Catley was?
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
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