All the Cat*ley family titles have so far, been taken from the local place
name of where the earliest known member resided and I think that for my
purposes, your "new tree" should continue in this tradition. Aldgate seemed
appropriate being a large ward within the St Katherine Cree Church parish.
Whilst the parish of St Katherine Cree is recognised in GENUKI using a
parish title is out of sync with the rest of us.
If Aldgate does not appeal : then how about William of London City? This
would seem more in keeping than William of St Katherine Creechurch ?
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter(a)health.sdu.dk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:10 AM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Wheathampstead Catleys a link to Weaverham?
Aldgate is a convenient handle but it is as you state a ward and the
parish of St Katherine Cree in the City of London is recognized by GENUKI.
More importantly, it was from this parish that Joseph's brother William
and then his widow Naomi (nee Bunyan) received relief and to there that
his niece Lydia was removed (I have further info on Lydia that I have not
yet posted). In the church register (available on Ancestry) both William
Catley and Susanna Carter are of this parish. It is of note that in 1793
Elizabeth Catley otp married George Rumph otp at St Katherine Cree with
Wm. Catley as a witness.
I have found our couple as Balderson in the 1871 census. He is farmer of
10 acres at Haslington. She is born Watford, London; London is crossed out
and Herts scribbled in but the transcripts show London.
Anthony
________________________________________
From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com] On Behalf
Of Tim Cattley [felis(a)mypostoffice.co.uk]
Sent: 04 April 2010 01:01
To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Wheathampstead Catleys a link to Weaverham?
For the purposes of recording the progression of "all Cat*leys" in my BMD
spreadsheet and if both Chris & Anthony are happy with my proposal, I
intend
to merge the two lines of William of Wheathamstead (1768)and Joseph of
Weaverham (1821) into a single tree under a new title.
As William Catley married Susan Carter from Wheathampstead at St Katherine
Cree Church in The City of London in 1792, and as St Katherine's was the C
of E Church there for the ward of Aldgate and as we do not yet know where
William came from originally, one or both of them must have been "of the
Aldgate Parish" to have married there.
So I intend to use the title :- William of Aldgate to denote the composite
new tree.
If either of you have a better title or object to my intention, please
tell
me.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter(a)health.sdu.dk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Wheathampstead Catleys a link to Weaverham?
> The couple are found in 1861 with surname spelling Balderstone. They are
> at Hassall close to Allostock where he was born. She is vaguely shown as
> from London. They appear not to have any kids. Overjoyed that "my"
> Catleys
> are now mainstream. Anthony
>
> ________________________________________
> From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com] On Behalf
> Of Tim Cattley [felis(a)mypostoffice.co.uk]
> Sent: 03 April 2010 19:56
> To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Wheathampstead Catleys a link to Weaverham?
>
> Hi Chris & Anthony,
>
> Great news!
>
> I think this is the first time that two Rootsweb Catley research projects
> have actually been shown to be one and the same tree.
>
> Congrats
>
> Tim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Newall" <chris(a)rebus.demon.co.uk>
> To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 1:55 PM
> Subject: [CATLEY] Wheathampstead Catleys a link to Weaverham?
>
>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> Almost two years ago Anthony Carter did some very thorough work in the
>> Hertfordshire Archives and posted details of the family of William
>> Catley of Wheathampstead. William's son Joseph, baptised 2 June 1793 at
>> St Mary Whitechapel, had married Elizabeth Wagstaff on 8 December 1812
>> at St Peters, St Albans and their daughter Elizabeth Catley was
>> christened 29 Jan 1813 at St Mary, Watford. After that this family
>> disappear, although Joseph's wife Elizabeth may have died and been
>> buried at Watford on 30 Apr 1820. There appear to be no subsequent
>> records of Joseph and his daughter Elizabeth in the Hertfordshire
>> records.
>>
>> I have now found evidence that identify Joseph Catley of Weaverham as
>> the missing Joseph, son of William of Wheathampstead. This is as
>> follows:
>>
>> The Family Search Record Search pilot has the marriage of Elizabeth
>> Catley, daughter of Joseph, to John Boulderstone, widower, son of James,
>> at Macclesfield, St Paul on 9 Jun 1850. This marriage is indexed by
>> FreeBMD as Elizabeth CATTEY / John BOULDERSTONE 1850 Jun Macclesfield 19
>> 114.
>>
>> The 1851 census [HO 107/2160 folio 168R page 8] lists her at Hollands
>> Buildings, Macclesfield as Elizabeth Boulderstone, wife, age 40, born in
>> Watford, HRT. This very strongly suggests that she is the missing
>> Elizabeth, the daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth of Watford.
>>
>> I have asked a friend who is an expert on Macclesfield and who has many
>> Cheshire PR fiches for details of the John Boulderstone / Elizabeth
>> Catley marriage. If Elizabeth's father is indeed a farmer named Joseph
>> Catley, we will have further confirmation that Joseph Catley of
>> Weaverham is indeed the son of one of the Williams of Wheathampstead.
>>
>> With best wishes
>>
>> Chris
>> --
>> Chris Newall EMail : chris(a)rebus.demon.co.uk
>> Ealing, London, W5 Website:
http://www.rebus.demon.co.uk/
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